1946 songs

Subject: 1946 songs
From: GUEST,Lakeman
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 08:38 PM

Does anyone know of any folksong/FS style that were first recorded or discovered in the year 1946. I'm making a CD of all types of songs from that year.

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 08:50 PM

Pete Seeger out out a record in 1946 called "Songs for Political Action" issued by the CIO Political Action Committee. Should be some good stuff on that.

And Merle Travis put out "Folk Songs Of The Hills" (Capitol AD50)

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: Peace
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 08:55 PM

The Old Lamplighter by Sammy Kaye. (That has always been one of the songs I truly love and do to this day.)

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: Peace
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 09:01 PM

[e-mail]

An e-mail to the good people at the above address might yield some results, too, despite them not starting publication until 1950.

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: pdq
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 10:51 PM

I am partial to "Freight Train Boogie" by the Delmore Brothers, 1946. Note the electric guitar solo by Kenneth "Jethro" Burns.

Also, the definitive Bill Monroe sides were cut in early 1946. The Blue Grass Boys classic lineup was set at that time. Many of the songs were used throughout his career.

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: Ron Davies
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 11:44 PM

Absolutely. Great year for bluegrass--and Freight Train Boogie (would you call that country blues?) also classic.

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: Amos
Date: 05 Dec 06 - 11:52 PM

Old Hank was singing for the Grand Ole Opry around then, too, if memory serves.


A

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: eddie1
Date: 06 Dec 06 - 09:18 AM

"You are a fool!!!
Let me guess...high-school....project due before the 2007 New Year?

The information is readily available, within a keystroke away.


Ask your Mistress/Matress for the tools to discover the treasure.


Sincerely,
Gargoyle"

When I first read this I felt quite angry - then I felt a bit sad for this poor character who has so little going on that he had to waste time writing this garbage, slating off someone who has asked a perfectly innocent question.

I always reckon that one of the greatest things about mudcat is that a thread can spread out and produce information on all kinds of interesting stuff. I suppose one of the other good things is that there is always room for folks like Gargoyle to pour out their petty anger.

It's no skin of your nose that Lakeman could have found the information elsewhere. Mudcatters so often have a different take on things from the obvious and come up with much more than a simple Google search would.
You don't have to read it Gargoyle. There are plenty other threads for you to read and leave this one to the Catters who are prepared to help!

Eddie

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: Bob Coltman
Date: 06 Dec 06 - 11:50 AM

OK, this is way overkill, but that's how I do things: obsessively. Here is your musical year 1946, in a fast shuffle.

Check in Library of Congress material recorded then. Somewhat sparse, because activity was slow getting started after the war, and appropriations were slow to be granted. But there should be some material field-recorded in 1946. Unfortunately my copy of Library of Congress: A Check-list of Folk Songs (Arno) ends at 1940...no help there.

See also studio recordings made by Moe Asch for Asch and Disc 78s of 1946. Dating is difficult! Among these were Lomax's recordings of Texas Gladden and Hobart Smith for Disc, but they may be 1947, not sure. Some great stuff including the first recording of "Railroad Bill" to reach the North. Also Cousin Emmy for Decca, great stuff! but I think that's 1947 too.

Asch/Disc had various Woody Guthrie, Lead Belly and other sides perhaps (Somewhere on the web I think there's a WG discography; check that). Some of the original Stinson material came from the same source.

Lornell and Wolfe Lead Belly biography has LB quite active in 1946, recording such songs as Yellow Gal, Borrow Love and Go, Eagle Rag Rock and Good Morning Blues with Bunk Johnson (jazz!) plus sides with Terry, McGhee, Guthrie and others: Diggin' My Potatoes, Defense Blues, Easy Rider, Pigmeat, Alabama Bound, Ham and Eggs, Stew Ball, Gray Goose, Midnight Special, Green Corn, Fiddler's Dram, Irene, The Gallis Pole, Bourgeois Blues, etc.

But you'd have to check deeper to find out whether this material was new in that year, or had been recorded previously.

In addition to the Seeger album mentioned above, Pete and Betty Sanders were recording a seven-song "Bawdy Ballads and Real Sad Songs" for Charter Records during 1946-7, but the record evidently did not come out till '47. Includes Molly Brannigan, Young to Marry, Hey Donald, The Soldier Laddy, Wedding and Bedding, In the Evening, East Virginia.

Carl Sandburg and others may have been recording during that year: Musicraft, maybe Decca. John Jacob Niles perhaps.

Bradley Kincaid recorded "Legend of the Robin's Red Breast," "Footprints in the Snow," "The Fatal Derby Day" and other material for Majestic c. 1945; it was issued by various companies c. 1946.

Bascom Lamar Lunsford was recording for the Library of Congress in 1946. "I Wish I Was a Mole In the Ground," "On a Bright and Summer's Morning,""Death of Queen Jane," etc.

THINGS NOT SO FOLKY BUT MAYBE OF INTEREST. I realize you probably aren't looking for these, but I just got carried away:

Blues. A few of the bluesmen recording in '46:
Big Bill Broonzy: I Can Fix It, Old Man Blue, I Can't Write, What Can I Do
Gabriel Brown Black Jack Blues, You Ain't No Good, etc.
Doctor Clayton: Root Doctor Blues,. Midnight Rambler, Hold That Train Conductor (Clayton died that year)
Arthur "Big Boy" Crudup: So Glad You're Mine, That's All Right (Elvis picked it up later).
Walter Davis: My Friends Don't Know Me, Please Remember Me, etc.
Champion Jack Dupree: Rum Cola Blues, She Makes Good Jelly, FDR Blues, etc.
Lowell Fulson: Don't Be So Evil, Black Widow Spider Blues
Jazz Gillum: Reckless Rider Blues, Roll Dem Bones, etc.
Lightnin' Hopkins: Can't Do Like You Used to Do, West Coast Blues, etc.
Brownie McGhee: Goin' Down Slow, Rock Me Mama, Night Time Is the Right Time, etc.
Memphis Minnie: Killer Diller, Moaning Blues, Lean Meat Won't Fry, etc.
Memphis Slim: Slim's Boogie, Little Mary, Grinder Man Blues, etc.
Tampa Red: Let's Try It Again, Crying Won't Help You, etc.
Montana Taylor: Low Down Boogie, Toot Your Whistle, etc.
T-Bone Walker: No Worry Blues, Bobby Sox Blues, etc.
Sonny Boy Williamson (the original, not Rice Miller): Mean Old Highway, Hoodoo Hoodoo, etc.

Pop music 1946 included among many others: Chiquita Banana, Five Minutes More, I'm a Big Girl Now, I'm a Lonely Little Petunia (In An Onion Patch), It's a Pity to Say Goodnight, Managua Nicaragua, Ole Buttermilk Sky, Old Devil Moon, Pickle in the Middle (And the Mustard on Top), Tenderly, the classic To Each His Own, plus Aloha Oe? and Ev'rybody Got a Laughin' Place? (not sure about these two).

Spaeth lists among 1946's top songs It Couldn't Be True, It's a Good Day, I'd Be Lost Without You, Oh, Why, Oh, Why Did I Ever Leave Wyoming?, ONe-zy Two-zy, Route 66!, Seems Like Old Times, and Mel Torme's The Christmas Song with several others.

Country music 1946: Doin' What Comes Natcherly, You Call Everybody Darlin'.

King Records was busy recording then little-known country acts in 1946. Check the King List for Delmore Brothers in particular. Also Grandpa Jones was recording with the Delmore Bros and Merle Travis as the Brown's Ferry Four, including Just a Little Talk with Jesus, I'll Fly Away, Everybody Will Be Happy Over There, Old Camp Meeting, Over in Glory Land, On the Jericho Road. Grandpa made a 1946 album with Merle including Eight More Miles to Louisville, Darling Won't You Love Me Now, Are There Tears Behind Your Smiles, Get Things Ready For Me, Ma, Ridin' On That Train and Heart Stealin' Mama. He also recorded Rex Griffin's Alimony Trouble that year.

Lot of great stuff in 1947, like "Smoke, Smoke, Smoke." Too bad it came too late.

Nuff already.

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: Bob Coltman
Date: 06 Dec 06 - 12:37 PM

Few more things:

Johnny Bond recorded four notable songs in 1946: Divorce Me C.O.D., So Round So Firm (So Fully Packed), Rainbow at Midnight, and Red River Sally.

The Sons of the Pioneers debuted songs including You're Getting Tired of Me, Out California way, and notably Baby Doll, Have I Told You Lately That I Love You, Chant of the Wanderer, The Everlasting Hills of Oklahoma, Cowboy Camp Meetin and the classic Tumblin' Tumbleweeds.

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: Bob Coltman
Date: 06 Dec 06 - 01:50 PM

1946:

Alan Lomax invites Hobart Smith and Texas Gladden to give a concert at Columbia U. Introduced them to Moe Asch who recorded a three-78 album, Texas Gladden Sings Blue Ridge Ballads, for Disc. (The material is now on the Rounder Texas Gladden CD-1800.) The album did not come out until 1948, if that matters. Songs are:

Devil and the Farmer's Wife, I'm Never To Marry (The Girl That I Hated), Rose Connolly, The House Carpenter, Poor Ellen Smith, The Wreck Of the Old '97.

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: Bob Coltman
Date: 06 Dec 06 - 02:17 PM

1946:

Margot Mayo and Stu Jamieson record Rufus Crisp in Allen KY. A Folkways LP resulted many years later. Among Crisp's fine banjo picking and songs were:

Shout Little Lulie, Blue-Eyed Girl, Trouble On My Mind, Ball and Chain, Shady Grove, Roll On John (by Palmer Crisp), Old Joe Clark, Sourwood Mountain, Blue Goose, Do Little Bobby, Shoo Fly, and Brighter Day (There Is a Happy Land, Far Far Away).

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Dec 06 - 05:07 PM

Lyrics World has pop songs listed by year, but you want folk.
The early Weavers stuff on Decca sounds like it came from 1946 (with Big Band arrangements), but I guess their Decca recordings were a few years later.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: GUEST,Lakeman
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 09:31 PM

Thankyou one and all for your help - even Gargoyle. Have pity on him - he probably works for GWB. And Gargoyle; no it is NOT a school project, but an album I'm recording for my birth year. Peace and love to you all

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: Peace
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 09:38 PM

Good for you, Lakeman. I hope it's a wonderful album, that you enjoy doing it and that it captivates some wonderful memories for you.

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 10:37 PM

A recent thread here suggested looking for what music was around in one's birth year. The link that was offered didn't start until quite a while after mine. An alternate link for "headlines of the month" that went back to my natal era said "nothing happened that month."

I'm offended that, if nothing else happened my own coming into the world should have been noteworthy enough for at least a mention, but ...

^#%@$!

Maybe they just hadn't developed the concept of "news" then.

John

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 07 Dec 06 - 10:56 PM

Look little "folkies" put UP or SHUT-UP!

Mr. PondChild:

OLD BUTTERMILK SKY

Hoagy Carmichael and Jack Brooks Introduced in the 1946 non-musical film: Canyon Passage

PEG O' MY HEART

Lyrics: Alfred Bryan; Music: Fred Fisher Introduced in the Musical Theatre: Ziegfeld Follies

YOU DO

Lyrics: Mack Gordon; Music: Josef Myrow Introduced in the musical film: Mother Wore Tights

HEARTACHES

Lyrics: John Klenner; Music: Al Hoffman Originally written in 1931, revived in 1947

I WONDER WHO'S KISSING HER NOW

Lyrics: Will Hough, Frank Adams; Music: Joseph E. Howard, Harold Orlob

Originally written in 1909, revived in 1947

FEUDIN' AND FIGHTIN'

Lyrics: Al Dubin; Music: Burton Lane Introduced in the Musical Theatre: Laffing Room Only<[>

ANNIVERSARY SONG

Saul Chaplin and Al Jolson Based on Ivanovici's Danube Waves (Ueber den Wellen) in 1880

Used in the musical film: The Jolson Story

MANAGUA, NICARAGUA

Lyrics: Albert Gamse; Music: Irving Fields

MY ADOBE HACIENDA

Louise Massey and Lee Penny Introduced in the musical film: Big Sombrero

SERENADE OF THE BELLS

( Kay Twomey, Al Goodhart and Al Urbano

SINCERELY,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: eddie1
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 12:22 AM

No gargoyle, I haven't contributed anything to songs of 1946 and I am quite happy to let others with more knowledge than I do so. I found your contribution interesting too.
My only point in posting was that your post of 5 Dec was rather pointless and your statement that Lakeman was a fool, just a tad childish.
Your attempt to make something out of a misspelling of my name rather bears this out and once again seems unneccesary considering your excellent posting that followed.

Eddie

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: Ron Davies
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 09:37 PM

You ought to hear our own Bill D do "Managua, Nicaragua". I wish he did it more often. But then I wish he did the "Bold Fisherman" more often. No accounting for taste, I suppose. (Uh oh, now I'll get a cogent comment from the man himself).

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: Ron Davies
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 09:42 PM

(In a desperate attempt to distract him from my earlier observations)--- Hey Bill, you and Rita coming to the (15th annual) SATB caroling this year--or to the party at my place that follows after?

Subject: RE: 1946 songs
From: Ron Davies
Date: 09 Dec 06 - 04:15 PM

That's door-to-door SATB caroling--Bill, ain't you reading above the line? Maybe we can try to do "Baby It's Cold Outside" afterwards-- or the Homer and Jethro parody (with June Carter). That at least was close to 1946.