Subject: Origins: Down in the Valley (All Dressed In White) From: John M. Date: 26 Dec 06 - 02:34 PM Hello, Does anyone know the following song? DOWN IN THE VALLEY [pg. 6] Notes: This is from the unpaginated Songs My Mother Taught Me: Originally compiled by 77 Squadron, Royal Australian Air Force, Japan and Korea, 1950-1951.. ND (ca 1971), no publisher, no location (Australia). |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: Joe Offer Date: 26 Dec 06 - 02:43 PM Any idea about the tune, John? (not that I intend to sing it...) -Joe- |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: Snuffy Date: 26 Dec 06 - 08:55 PM I have heard a "clean" original of this sung as "Down in the alley" or something similar, and will try to find it In the meantime here is a more colourful version from the South East Nottinghamshire Venture Scout Song Book!!! |
Subject: ADD: Down the Dark Alley From: Joe Offer Date: 27 Dec 06 - 01:06 PM For the record, here are the lyrics Snuffy linked to: Down the Dark Alley The first time I saw her she was all dressed in white All in white, all in white, she kept me up all night Down the dark alley where nobody goes The next time I saw her she was all dressed in pink All in pink , all in pink, she made my fingers stink Down the dark alley where nobody goes The next time I saw her she was all dressed in blue All in blue , all in blue, she showed me what to do Down the dark alley where nobody goes The next time I saw her she was all dressed in red All in red, all in red, I shagged her 'till she bled Down the dark alley where nobody goes The next time I saw her she was all dressed in cream All in cream, all in cream, I really made her scream Down the dark alley where nobody goes The next time I saw her she was all dressed in brown All in brown, all in all in brown, I shagged her upside down Down the dark alley where nobody goes The next time I saw her she was all dressed in magenta All in magenta, all in magenta, I came so hard I bent her Down the dark alley where nobody goes The next time I saw her she was all dressed in mauve All in mauve, all in mauve, I sucked 'till my lips froze Down the dark alley where nobody goes The next time I saw her she was all dressed in green All in green, all in green, I licked her pussy clean Down the dark alley where nobody goes The next time I saw her she was all dressed in beige All in beige, all in beige, but not until I paid Down the dark alley where nobody goes The next time I saw her she was all dressed in grey All in grey, all in grey, a little goes a very long way Down the dark alley where nobody goes The next time I saw her she was all dressed in rose All in rose, all in rose, she's cheap and God it shows Down the dark alley where nobody goes The last time I saw her she was all dressed in black All in black, all in black, I want my money back Down the dark alley where nobody goes Source: South East Nottinghamshire Venture Scout Song Book |
Subject: ADD Version: Down in the Valley From: Joe Offer Date: 27 Dec 06 - 01:22 PM I found another version at this site: http://www.odps.org/glossword/index.php?a=term&d=3&t=108 down in the valley / down the back alley
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Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: Snuffy Date: 27 Dec 06 - 02:44 PM The "clean" version I remember hearing is basically the same as Nutty posted here - Lyr Req: Down the Dark Alley six years ago |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: MoorleyMan Date: 27 Dec 06 - 02:47 PM Max: Think this and the "Lyr Req: Down The Dark Alley" thread should be combined, since they essentially discuss the same song. |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: Joe Offer Date: 27 Dec 06 - 04:03 PM Hi, Moorley Man - I moved my message from today over to this thread. One reason for keeping two threads is that the song is known by various names - I gether that "Down the Dark Alley" is the more common one. I moved my message from today over to this thread, so there's nothing recent on that thread to keep it on the Forum Menu. -Joe- |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: GUEST,Timbo of the 'Pool Date: 12 Dec 13 - 07:54 AM I always thought that this was another of our Liverpool vulgar songs. Kids used to sing this on school coach trips when I was a kid, and the lyrics may have been slightly different to some pasted here. It was always 'down the back alley' not anything else. Another line I haven't seen mentioned above, was the exceptionally vulgar 'all in green all in green, I filled full of cream' yeah, not exactly rhyming! Poetic licence?! The closest one to the Liverpudlian one is Joe Offer's version 2. |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: GUEST,Timbo again Date: 12 Dec 13 - 07:57 AM 'all in green all in green, I filled her full of cream' I meant to write! F****n typos!!! |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 12 Dec 13 - 11:00 AM Hey, let me tell y'all a true story. My husband was in a casino just two days ago, and a lout dressed in camo called a female pit boss a cunt. (A pit boss is one step higher than a dealer.) Then what happened? 1. The pit boss was relieved of her place and a different pit boss came on, so the insulted woman would not be involved in a confrontation. 2. Three burly, steel-eyed security people (one female, two male) escorted the player and his sniggering buddy out of the casino. 3. Their hotel room for that night was cancelled. I'm telling you this just so you know that there are places in this world where the kind of nastiness in this song is not considered funny. In fact, 'abnormal and vicious' would be more like it. ================== PS Do you really believe a swash-buckling, two-fisted fighter wrote a verse with 'mauve' in it? Give me a break. |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: GUEST,Chris Griffiths Date: 18 Jun 14 - 12:24 PM Chris Griffiths My favourite version is this one dripped to me, in episodes, by two delightfully mischievous, eleven year old female classmates during our exploratory flirtations at Hill Top Municipal Park, West Bromwich, in the 1958 summer holidays before moving on to different secondary schools in Wednesbury. At the time, it seemed pretty steamy to us three youngsters - but it's certainly not as vulgar as some of the other more unpleasant versions remembered elsewhere in these lists. Thank you Diane and Carol - I wonder whatever became of you wicked little girls? The first time I met her she was all dressed in white, All in white all in white, She held me to her, tight, Down the dark valley where no-body goes. The next time I met her she was all dressed in fawn, All in fawn all in fawn, She drew me by the horn, Down the dark valley where no-body goes. The next time I met her she was all dressed in black, All in black all in black, I kissed her lovely crack, Down the dark valley where no-body goes. The next time I met her she was all dressed in green, All in green all in green, I filled her up with cream, Down the dark valley where no-body goes. The next time I met her she was all dressed in blue, All in blue all in blue, She said the Doctor had told her a baby was due, Down the dark valley where no-body goes. The next time I met her she was all dressed in red, All in red all in red, She said her mother insisted that we must be wed, Down the dark valley where no-body goes. The last time I met her I was all dressed in grey, All in grey all in grey, I left home, the very next day, Ne'er again to venture, down the dark valley where no-body goes. |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: Don Firth Date: 18 Jun 14 - 12:35 PM Hmm.... I don't think I'll be singing any of these at the next church social. In fact, I don't think I'll be singing any of these. Thanks just the same..... Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 18 Jun 14 - 01:46 PM I remember events in the back alley. But strangely I never heard the song. I wonder how old the lyrics are. |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: Steve Gardham Date: 18 Jun 14 - 05:41 PM Okay, Joe, these 2 threads need splicing. both current. |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: Steve Gardham Date: 20 Jun 14 - 03:22 PM Refresh for merger, Joe. |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: GUEST,laura Date: 02 Jul 14 - 09:29 PM has anybody got a link to any of these versions actually being sung please? |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: Steve Gardham Date: 03 Jul 14 - 03:55 PM The closest thing I can think of as far as a tune goes is the folk song 'Maids when you're young never wed an old man'. Here's a verse When we went to church Hey ding dorum down When we went to church X Me being young X When we went to church he left me in the lurch Maids when you're young never wed an old man. excluding the 2 lines marked 'X' John Mehlberg has a website somewhere with all of these bawdy pieces being sung. I have a vague recollection of singing this to him over the phone to go on the website. Have you tried Googling it? |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: Steve Gardham Date: 03 Jul 14 - 04:16 PM Okay according to my indexes the tune is available in various volumes. Ed Cray in The Erotic Muse gives an American version to the ubiquitous 'Vilikins' tune which is related to the American bawdy song 'Charlotte the Harlot'. He states though 'Originally from Great Britain' However the tune of the 'all in blue, all in blue, I said 'How do you do' bit is the same tune as I sing. One of the earliest versions I have is in Nettleingham's 'Tommy's Tunes' from WWI. Unfortunately the way the tune is set out in harmonies (piano music) I haven't the skill to work out what the tune is. Above the score it states 'TUNE: Special' which I take to mean it has its own tune. It could be related to Vilikins but that's just a guess. It has 11 verses and a sort of epilogue that has the designated tune of 'Farmer Giles' which I do believe is the Vilikins tune. |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: Steve Gardham Date: 03 Jul 14 - 04:33 PM Danny Brazil's version which is a different tune again can be heard on the triple CD from Musical Traditions website 'Down by the Old Riverside' The title is 'I met a girl all in white'. It's track 17 on the 3rd CD. The same version is printed in Mike Yates' book 'Traveller's Joy' published by EFDSS in 2006. p75. with score. |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: GUEST,odddy doddy Date: 17 Dec 14 - 02:24 AM what about the old army song you can up me fXXX me and lick my sweaty crotch and the crabs are playin ping pong with me balls we're the dirtyiest pack of bastards in the land |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: GUEST,Nikki Vokes Date: 13 Mar 19 - 01:43 PM Down in the valley(where nobody goes) * Some colors may not be in the correct order; * Some lyrics may not be correct:{Nikki Vokes} The first time I saw her she was in white, all in white all in white, she was a pretty sight, down in the valley where nobody goes. The next time I saw her she was in cream, all in cream all in cream, she was a pretty dream, down in the valley where nobody goes. The next time I saw her she was in beige, all in beige all in beige, she just turned of age, down in the valley where nobody goes. The next time I saw her she was in pink, all in pink all in pink, she made my fingers stink, down in the valley where nobody goes. The next time I saw her she was in brown, all in brown all in brown, I got her knickers down, down in the valley where nobody goes.
The next time I saw her she was in green, all in green all in green, she said the doctor’s been, down in the valley where nobody goes. The next time I saw her she was in blue, all in blue all in blue, she said our baby’s due, down in the valley where nobody goes. The next time I saw her she was in grey all in grey all in grey, she said we’re due in may, down in the valley where nobody goes. The next time I saw her she was in red, all in red all in red, she said our baby’s dead, down in the valley where nobody goes. The last time I saw her she was in black all in black all in black, she won’t be going back, into the valley where nobody goes. |
Subject: RE: Origins: pg13 Down in the Valley From: and e Date: 30 Jun 20 - 01:05 PM DOWN IN THE VALLEY Song #247 in the Fighter Pilots Song Book Undated (ca 1962). Internally attributed to the 523rd Tactical Fighter Squadron but the cover image shows the design of the 421st "Black Widows" TFS. Most likely the 421st just photocopied the everything and changed the cover image. https://archive.org/details/1963fighterpilotssongbookblackwidowsquadron/page/240/mode/2up?q=first+time+i+saw |
Subject: RE: Origins: Down in the Valley (bawdy) From: and e Date: 30 Jan 25 - 11:17 AM The first time I met her, she was all dressed in white. March 5, 2006. Transcribed from the singing of Steve Gardham. He was uncertain of the tune. Listen here: https://ia803402.us.archive.org/0/items/jack_horntip_collection_field_recordings/0452%20The%20First%20Time%20I%20Met%20Her%20She%20Was%20All%20Dress%20In%20White.mp3 |
Subject: RE: Origins: Down in the Valley (bawdy) From: and e Date: 30 Jan 25 - 03:15 PM The Song of Colors March 21, 1960. From the singing of Jean Robertson, New Pitsligo (Scotland). Listen here: https://egrove.olemiss.edu/kgreels_uk/70/ Song is at the 14:30 mark Of course, this song shares many of the verses of "I knew a lady dressed in Red". See this thread: https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=10910 |
Subject: RE: Origins: Down in the Valley (bawdy) From: and e Date: 31 Jan 25 - 08:31 AM Down In The Valley MS-Word file retrieved December 15, 2008 from www.zoostationuk.ukfsn.org/PuppiesV2/songs.doc Link is no longer valid. Not indexed in the Internet Archive. . |
Subject: RE: Origins: Down in the Valley (bawdy) From: GUEST,Sean O'Shea Date: 31 Jan 25 - 02:02 PM I wonder if this song has any value or validity today.Who would want to sing it, particularly to a mixed audience?Not all songs are worth perpetuating just because they exist, particularly as a historic example of a so-called bawdy song.Women tuning in to this thread must surely find it offensive and possibly threatening.
Joe Offer, Mudcat Editor |
Subject: RE: Lyr ADD: Down the Dark Alley / Down the Back Alley From: and e Date: 01 Feb 25 - 07:25 AM Down the Dark Alley where she followed Me 1945. Mess Songs and Rhymes of the RAAF (Royal Australian Air Force). See here: https://archive.org/details/1945messsongsandrhymesoftheraaf/page/42/mode/1up?q=alley |
Subject: RE: Origins: Down in the Valley (bawdy) From: and e Date: 01 Feb 25 - 01:29 PM https://balladindex.org/Ballads/RPFW153A.html
First Time I Met Her, The (Down in the Valley, Down in the Dark Alley)DESCRIPTION: "The first time I met her, she was all dressed in white, All in white (x2), She gave me such a fright, Down in the (valley/dark alley) where nobody goes." Each time we see her, she is in a different color, telling stages of her baby's birth and deathAUTHOR: unknown EARLIEST DATE: 1966 (Palmer) KEYWORDS: colors clothes baby death FOUND IN: Britain(England(West)) REFERENCES (2 citations): Nettleingham-TommysTunes, #88, "Down in the Valley" (1 text, 1 tune, with a final tag to a different tune) ADDITIONAL: Roy Palmer, _The Folklore of Warwickshire_, Rowman and Littlefield, 1976, pp. 151-153, "The First TIme I Met her" (1 text, 1 tune) Roud #10123 CROSS-REFERENCES: cf. "Down in the Jungle" (lyrics) cf. "Down in the Valley Washing Her Clothes" (lyrics) NOTES [85 words]: Palmer's version of this is rather explicit (interesting for a song sung by a group of 13-year-old girls), and the two versions cited by Roud are also from sources likely to produce rough versions -- and yet I seem to recall, somewhere in the past, running across a clean version. So I suspect this is a parody, even though I don't know what it is a parody of. It's clearly related to "Down in the Jungle" and "Down in the Valley Washing Her Clothes," but I rather suspect those aren'tt the original either. - RBW Last updated in version 2.6 File: RPFW153A Go to the Ballad Search form Go to the Ballad Index Instructions The Ballad Index Copyright 2024 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Down in the Valley (bawdy) From: and e Date: 01 Feb 25 - 10:42 PM The first time I met her, I met her in white The Folklore of Warwichshire by Roy Palmer. 1976. p.153. See here: https://archive.org/details/folkloreofwarwic0000palm/page/153/mode/1up?q=%22first+time+i+met%22 |
Subject: RE: Origins: Down in the Valley (bawdy) From: and e Date: 02 Feb 25 - 07:49 AM 88. DOWN IN THE VELLY. 1917. Tommy's Tunes. pp.82-83. See online here: https://archive.org/details/1917tommystunes-1stedition/page/82/mode/1up?q=%22Down+in+the+Valley%22 |
Subject: RE: Origins: Down in the Valley (bawdy) From: and e Date: 08 Feb 25 - 10:50 PM Charlotte The Harlot 2004. Chansons Paillardes pp.400-401. PDF. https://web.archive.org/web/20190601000000*/http:/yvesfrederic.com/la-bande-a-bonnot/ON_yvesfrederic/Chansonniers/paillardes.pdf |
Subject: RE: Origins: Down in the Valley (bawdy) From: and e Date: 10 Feb 25 - 10:33 PM I Met a Maid all in White Retrieved from here: https://www.springthyme.co.uk/brazil/IMetAMaid.html |
Subject: RE: Origins: Down in the Valley (bawdy) From: and e Date: 10 Feb 25 - 10:41 PM I Met a Girl All in White Music is available at this link: https://glostrad.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/440-Danny-Brazil-I-Met-a-Girl-All-in-White-Mike-Yates-1.pdf |
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