BS: Gno more Gnome

Subject: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 04:06 PM

Sorry Guys.

I promised myself I would never make a splash but there is no other way of doing this. The Kitty Litter has got far too dirty for my liking. Please keep the Russian Folk Songs and any reference to Swinton Folk Club as my legacy. I won't post my proper email addy here but I am sure the people that matter will understand dpolshaw at hotmail dot com.

Love to all those I have met. Bollocks to all the arseholes and something in between to those who don't know where they fit.

Cheers

Dave the Gnome

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 04:12 PM

gobsmacked. In some ways, I can't blame him. Miss you Dave. See you at the Annexe I hope.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: gnu
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 04:12 PM

Gosh, this is VERY sad news.

Nice to have known you. Take care.

g

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 04:17 PM

Damn...sorry youre going Dave, but I know the feeling.

Best wishes to you.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Bert
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 04:22 PM

You don't have to leave, just stop opening the offending threads and ignore any offending messages.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: ClaireBear
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 04:23 PM

Bye, Sir Gnome. I seem to have missed whatever went on, but perhaps that is as well.

I too will miss you. Be well.

Claire

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 04:30 PM

Farewell. I consider you a friend.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 04:30 PM

Come back, Dave! yOU'LL BE MISSED.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 04:41 PM

So long Dave. I hope you will reconsider, I've loved your post.

Sure, there are a lot of "arse" holes here, and people will say things that they would never dare say to your face. You should not let their small minds and anal pleasures get in the way of the good friends and good discussions you've had on Mudcat.

It is easy to walk away and feel that you have done something righteous, but in reality you have let them beat you.   It isn't worth a fight, but it isn't worth making an issue out of leaving either.   Walk away from a discussion, not the forum.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 05:25 PM

A lot of crap gets said in this section, but this is and will remain a serious and important site for thousands of people worldwide..
We must not hand it over to the foul mouthed yobs.
No one goes further than you to see the other bloke's point of view, and to make allowances for his feelings.
When you do get harsh, you tag it with a silly smile.
We need more contributors like you Dave.
Think again.
Keith.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: GUEST,Cruz
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 05:26 PM

People that exit like Gnome are pretentious. No one forces you to be below the line in the BS. Stay in the music section.

Are you seeking sympathy, for what?

Look at me I am leaving...

Good bye and good luck. Come back soon with an armor of chain mail.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 05:28 PM

Please just take a break and then come back. It helps, I promise. (Been there.) There are more good people on here than arseholes...your leaving diminishes those odds. Hope you will come back after a respite. You WILL be missed.

All the best,

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 05:31 PM

Cruz, there are very few people on this site who are less pretentious than Dave.

Allow him the right to try & prick the consciences of those who presumably have caused him to leave, by saying so.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Peace
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 05:37 PM

Guest Cruz is the reason some mammals eat their young.

You are a good man, Dave. The place needs more like you, not fewer.

FWIW, this kind of thing is exactly why the Mudcat should go members-only in the BS section, and the sooner the better.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 05:42 PM

We don't know what actually precipitated Dave's regrettable departure,I actually thought things were on the up again recently.
Sorry you decided to pull the plug Dave, you can always reconsider you know?
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: GUEST,Cruz
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 05:45 PM

That was funny brucie. Thanks.

I, of course, meant no harm to DTG, but why the Grand Exit?

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 05:49 PM

Bye dtg. I never skip your posts as they are so balanced and well thought out. No idea who you are but you come across on here as a thoroughly lovely bloke. I'm sure you won't be at a loss to fill your time. Stay well.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 05:51 PM

As one who has left several times, sometimes with notice and sometimes not, I understand, Dave. If you feel like you can handle being back, you'll be part of an exclsuiive club of those who share that history-- and please, PM any time even if it's just to strengthen your resolve. And thanks for the goodbye note-- I know some folks think that's bad form but I think it's helpful to know straightforwardly from the one who's leaving speaking for themselves!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Janie
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 06:01 PM

Sorry to see you go, Dave. Hope you'll take a break and come back.

In the FWIW department,I took Bert's advice a little while ago and lo! it worked for me.

Janie

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Peace
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 06:08 PM

Cruz, thank you for your kind response. I do not know the details, but I do know Dave from his posts on Mudcat and a few messages back and forth now and then. He is a quality person. He has always been the epitome of good humoUr, fellowship, support to those who need it when they need it, and he is someone I wish I was more like. He is a good man, but sometimes even good men get beaten down by some of the stuff that gets said on Mudcat.

I have never had the pleasure of meeting him. I hope I do someday, because I like people of character, even though--or maybe even especially because I'm not always like that myself. Folks like him are the unstated reminder that it takes good poeple to make a good world--even within the microcosm that is Mudcat. Your response to me lets me know you are much like that, too.

Dave, if must needs, take a week off. But please stick around.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 06:13 PM

Don't walk out of the session!

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 06:24 PM

This is a sad week. I have received a pm from another member Dave who has just left this site due to the shite that is slung here.

Keith, it's you that is driving people away.

Can we not just ban Keith ?

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 06:31 PM

Why? At least one member has been banned lately because he upset the wrong people. It DOES matter who you make angry. If you make me angry, oh well. Pretty much garuntee nothing will happen.

Besides, if the banned members care enough they can figure out ways to come back even as members.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 06:35 PM

Paul and Peace there are members leaving this site due to cynical posts such as this one below. "In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king".

From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 05:25 PM

A lot of crap gets said in this section, but this is and will remain a serious and important site for thousands of people worldwide..
We must not hand it over to the foul mouthed yobs.
No one goes further than you to see the other bloke's point of view, and to make allowances for his feelings.
When you do get harsh, you tag it with a silly smile.
We need more contributors like you Dave.
Think again.
Keith.

"A lot of crap gets said in this section" we all know Keith and it's you saying it.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 06:36 PM

"No one forces you to be below the line in the BS.'

... and no one forces people to say things that our way out of line. No one forces people to hide their identities so that they can feel real important when they say crude things to another. No one forces people to start arguements just for the sake of having an arguement. No one forces people to stay in the same room with racists, sexists or bigots either.   

No one would force me to allow some of the vermin that lurks in these forums into my home. No one would force me to be civil to them either.    However these idiots can enter into any discussion and be as abusive as they wish with no one to stop them. The moderators try to give us free speech, but the privalage is abused by mental midgets who love to cause trouble.

Look at posts from five or six years ago. Sure there were a few assholes causing trouble, but it was much easier to have a conversation and really discuss things.

Dave is not the first to leave, nor will he be the last. Sooner or later the rest of us will either get disgusted or realize that there is no one decent to chat with.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 06:38 PM

Sorry Sorcha, don't want to start an argument here, but just who are 'the wrong people'?
If you refer to the person I think you do, then that person upset an awful lot of people, they can't all be 'the wrong people' surely?
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: freda underhill
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 06:41 PM

dear gnome

sad gnews, Dave, you are a good one. Mudcat would be the less without you. as many of the others have suggested, why not take a cyber holiday and come back in a while? a break could give you some distance from whoever has upset you. many of us would be pleased to keep reading your posts again.
best wishes

ms hobbit

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 07:12 PM

I doubt that its Keith who has given Dave away, Guest, I really do, so I'm sure you'll understand when I say that I am very sure that youre lying.

Not that my opinion in this means jack shit, of course, as you have chosen not to give your claims the credibility of using your Mudcat name.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 07:21 PM

Hmmmm...that was to Guest: 06:24 PM, of course, & maybe I should revise my above post slightly, as you didnt actually claim Dave had given that as his reason. You just just stated it was down to Keith, in a manner that implied he was the cause. Why?

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Bernard
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 07:39 PM

Gnowing Dave as a personal friend for over twenty years, it saddens me that people who seem to take themselves far too seriously have upset him to this extent.

My visits to Mudcat are far less frequent than they used to be, because I don't care for the vindictive comments some people make about others.

Criticism which is justified and fairly made is one thing, but inflammatory and often grossly inaccurate  remarks are an entirely different matter.

I do not wish to become involved in such slanging matches, which is why I am careful not to name any names. That way, those who are causing offence will over-react and quickly make themselves known because I have pricked someone's guilty conscience - if, indeed, they have a conscience at all.

It is also inevitable that someone may misunderstand what I have said, and take offence where no offence was intended. Tough.

Don't waste your time throwing crap at me, because to insult me, first I have to respect your opinions!

Dave's dropping out of Mudcat will not deprive me of a good friend, because he lives nearby.

I'm with you, lad.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 07:43 PM

Touching!

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: GUEST,Cruz
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 07:44 PM

Well then Bernard, twist the lad's arm a bit to keep him at least in the music section. Only good friends can do that.

I am still laughing at Peace's comment...

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Azizi
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 07:48 PM

Dave, I'm sorry to hear this news and I hope that you reconsider.

Either way, Positive vibrations!

Azizi

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: pdq
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 07:49 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: The Curse of Cromwell
From: ard mhacha
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 07:23 AM

DTG, You do slobber on, if you care to read my posts further up this Thread you will see that I stated that the attendances in Ireland had declined, given as 60^ in 1998

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Subject: RE: BS: The Curse of Cromwell
From: ard mhacha
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 03:18 PM

Are you still rattling on DTG, have you a problem or did a dog piss in your eye, careful where they set you down in the garden.

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Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 07:52 PM

You should "never" demean the little people. A curse on your house.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Hawker
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 07:52 PM

Goodbye Dave, nice knowing you and sharing your posts, hope to meet you out there in reality!
Peace, love and a Happy New Year
Lucy

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Alba
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 08:03 PM

Be Well Dave.

Hopefully time will heal and you'lle feel like dropping in.

It does get crappy at times.
I was for the off not so long ago when I found that someone shared the contents of my PM to them with a couple of their "buddies" on here...now that's areshole behaviour huh!!

Then there are the truly genuine, no head messing, REAL Friends on the Mudcat that I can't imagine not being in touch with. Losing those Folks would create a very big space in my heart...so...I ignore the arseholes now...totally..... and save my time and energy for the People that come to visit the Mudcat with no hidden agenda.

I truly hope to see you in here again in the near future and wish you nothing but the best Dave ma Dear.

Love and Light and warmest of Wishes for 2007
Jude

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 08:05 PM

A hissy fit over the NI threads.

Anyone posting to those suckers bloody well deserves what they get, regardless of with whom they side.

Also, Sorcha is right about the "who you know" thing.

DtG is well-liked by those "who you know" sorts. He is well known by me as a bootlicker of same.

And now, with this silly exit with a furious flair, a drama queen.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 08:11 PM

Flamingo Ted is now a GUEST ? Thought it was him.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 08:22 PM

You've gotta go when you've gotta go!

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: The Walrus
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 08:53 PM

Bernard,

I don't know if DtG is still reading these posts - I somehow doubt it (he doesn't seem the type to make a big exit and then watch for the effect).

Please try to persuade him to return, his input always seemed interesting and reasoned and without him Muncat will be a poorer place.

BtW, do you know if he ever DID find a source for the Cossack kit he was looking for?

W

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Bernard
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 09:53 PM

(answered via PM)

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Dec 06 - 10:08 PM

"Also, Sorcha is right about the "who you know" thing."

I find that interesting.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Sorcha
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 12:24 AM

Only with permission from the sender first. I do have some standards.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 12:27 AM

That was not about you Sorcha

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 03:33 AM

Dave and I never had a cross word on the forum, corresponded outside the forum and have a standing invite to each other's homes.
The vicious personal attack from Ard may have been the final straw but I bet this kind of deceit and lies, member using this thread to smear another member(me) must have been part of it.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 03:45 AM

I suspect it was because of you Keith, not Ard mhacha.

"I bet this kind of deceit and lies, member using this thread to smear another member(me) must have been part of it".

You Keith A of Hertford are the master of lies and deceit as many here are aware.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 04:58 AM

You suspect wrong.
You know it is a lie anyway.
I have a pm from Dave confirming it.
Any Joe clone is welcome to look in my inbox.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: JennyO
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 05:13 AM

Yet another reason for making this forum members only. That troublemaking GUEST will have to go away or post under his/her/its real name - if he/she/it has the guts.

Subject: RE: BS: Gno more Gnome
From: Gervase
Date: 30 Dec 06 - 07:09 AM

God this place is getting pretty nasty, with pusillanimous drivel like "Guest's". I can sympathise with Dave's leaving. I don't read through enough here to get my bile rising to danger levels, but if a poisonous, snivelling and cowardly little turd like that "Guest" was a real guest in my home I'd take great pleasure in pitching it down the front steps PDQ.
So, come on Max, Joe et all - how about removing the right to post for those who won't leave footprints? How many genuinely constructive posters would we lose because they never have access to a computer which will accept cookies?