New Mudcat Feature Testing

Subject: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Max
Date: 18 Mar 99 - 08:03 PM

Hi all. I noticed that the ICQ chat room I set up is used quite extensively, so I thought I'd work on a chat room on the mudcat. Anyhow, we have a grand design for the future and a "for now" idea. I set up a test chat room here: http://www.mudcat.org/chat/irc.cfm. Try it out if you like and let me know what you think. As I mentioned, this will be eventually replaced with our own chat thing. Oh, also, it is members only for now.

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Jo Taylor
Date: 18 Mar 99 - 08:34 PM

Thanks Max, just went there but the messages wouldn't appear.. just when I'd finally given in & downloaded ICQ...
Jo

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Brakn
Date: 18 Mar 99 - 08:38 PM

My computer locked.
Mick Bracken

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: j0_77
Date: 18 Mar 99 - 09:00 PM

Yeilds error java.lang.No class def.....

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: j0_77
Date: 18 Mar 99 - 09:01 PM

Yeilds error java.lang.No class def..... My set up Pentium/MS win95 Netscape Java enabled mem >64 200mmx

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 18 Mar 99 - 09:50 PM

Try again. I just got in, talked to Max in there. He's been tweaking it.

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Max
Date: 18 Mar 99 - 09:53 PM

OK, this particular chat requires that you have a 4.0 browser. Sorry about that. Tomorrow I will try again.

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: SeanM
Date: 18 Mar 99 - 10:10 PM

Works fine for me... nobody there, but working!

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: sharom
Date: 18 Mar 99 - 10:14 PM

error occurred near line one of the template file

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Barry Finn
Date: 18 Mar 99 - 10:24 PM

Just tried, only got a heading. I tried the ICQ & couldn't figure my way in. Sure do miss that old chat room here, hope we can get it back. Barry

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Pete M
Date: 18 Mar 99 - 10:32 PM

I got in oK after a long download, no-one else about though.

Pete M

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: harpgirl
Date: 18 Mar 99 - 11:07 PM

I seem to have gotten in okay but no one there! harpgirl

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: reggie miles
Date: 18 Mar 99 - 11:56 PM

Couldn't make it into the chat room. I did however read something about an error regarding some member who didn't bring an ID. (Is this an adults only thing?) I have a valid Washington State drivers license is that good enough to get in? It's got my picture on it. Will I also have to give a fingerprint, retina scan, blood, stool, and urine sample, like I do when I'm cashing a check? Then there was something about someone who didn't bring enough cookies to go around for everyone??? I didn't know it was suppose to be a potluck chat or I would've baked some cookies too.

Reggie

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Barbara
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 12:42 AM

Applet room.IRC can't start:error:java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:room/IRC
I have Netscape 4.04, Max. What am I missing?
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 12:49 AM

My little aol triangle doesn't spin when I click on the link--it just sits there looking dumb, taking after me. --seed

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Banjer
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 01:31 AM

Just checked out the chat room, all seems to be working well. I was there by myself, however, and since I have been talking to myself long before I got into computers I didn't stay long! I run a Pentium 133, 1.2g hard drive and 48 megs of ram with the 4.04 Netscape browser. Got in with a minimumDL time and all functioned well. I did notice that on the little ID screen my nicknmae is as I originally listed it, "Banjeray". This board has shortened it to Banjer, which is OK too. Look forward to being able to chat with folks in the chat room......Thanks for an excellent effort...It has made the Mudcat my #1 place to go after logging on and many times I spend all my available time here...I have been deleting some of my bookmars because I just don't feel I can spread myself that thin !! Thanks Max!!

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Teresa
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 02:33 AM

Hi. Unfortunately, with my current speech and screen-reader setup, I cannot make sense of Java. There's a possibility that with a new upgrade, I will be able to in a few months. In the meantime, which IRC server can I find this chat room on? Thanks, Teresa

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: j0_77
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 02:54 AM

Mine now says cant start IRC ...got a security violation method (my Netscape version is 4.03)

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 03:03 AM

Hey Banjer.. I was there at the same time as you, saw you listed, posted a "Hi there" type thing and waited. No response.

Problem Max?

catspaw

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Banjer
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 06:20 AM

Hey Catspaw, when I was there all I saw listed as "Audience" was my name. I saw no others. Huh....Odd I did have an active cursor and typed "hello, is anyone here?" in the message line, but seeing only my name I didn't send it...wish now I would have

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Banjer
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 06:28 AM

Just tried again, got in with no problem, still just me listed as "Ausience"....typed AND sent a message but no response....If anyone was there at 0625 hrs, 19 MAR please advise.

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: AlistairUK
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 07:41 AM

Anybody interested I'm in there at the moment coma nad join me. Loaded real easy and no problems

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: The Shambles
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 08:20 AM

No joy with Netscape 3.

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: AlistairUK
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 08:52 AM

Just got off a fab hour with alison and catspaw and big mick and alan from Oz...welll done max it's brilliant.

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Alice
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 09:56 AM

I am still using Netscape 3. I like it. Hate to give it up.

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Margo
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 10:59 AM

Hi Max! I went in but no one else was there. Oh poor lonesome me. I'll try again. I hope it works out...

Margarita

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Barbara
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 12:57 PM

I'm still getting the message I got before along with "Security Violation" It loads right up to the end, and then locks on the Applet room bit.

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Animaterra
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 01:06 PM

Members only... I'm a member at home but not at my Mac at work... can I still come chat when I'm at work? I mean, not when I'm working but in the slim envelope of time that I can come to the 'Cat during the work day?

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: AlistairUK
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 01:24 PM

If you reset your cookie when you are at work you sure can

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Big Mick
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 02:14 PM

Got in fine, Max, and enjoyed a lovely chat with the object of my desire (The fair Alison for those who don't know....***grin***), Alan of Australia, and AlistairUK. But when I closed and got out, I continued to get the doorbell and door closing, even when I was online, but not connected to Mudcat. Must have something to do with the applet.

Mick

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Barry Finn
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 02:49 PM

What do you need computerwise to get in, NS??? or MS???? Barry

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: j0_77
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 03:46 AM

Ok here is the very latest lowdown on my Netscape I upgraded from v 4.03 to 4.051 then the chat worked. Thanx Max :)

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 12:29 PM

I've been on several times now but I'm always alone! Maybe we should set a time for chats- when is a good time for y'all? I can usually be on around 9 pm EST USA. ***I take it back! I just had a chat with AlistairUK- but still, maybe the occasional planned chat isn't such a bad idea.

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 01:31 PM

Tried to get in with netscape 4.5 and i got this. Please advise.

Error Occurred While Processing Request

Error Diagnostic Information

An error has occurred while processing the expression:

SELECT * FROM Members WHERE Members.MemberID = #Cookie.MemberID#

The error occurred on (or near) line 1 of the template file C:\WEBSERVER\MUDCAT\HTDOCS\CHAT\..\COOKIEFILL.CFM.

1: 2: SELECT *

Error resolving parameter COOKIE.MEMBERID

The cookie value MEMBERID was not found in the current template file. The cause of this error is very likely one of the following things:

1.The name of the cookie variable has been misspelled. 2.The cookie variable has not yet been created or has timed out.

To set default values for cookie variables you should use the CFPARAM tag (e.g. )

Date/Time: 03/20/99 13:27:58 Browser: Mozilla/4.51 [en] (Win95; I) Remote Address: 194.168.237.194 HTTP Referer: http://www.Deltablues.com/thread.cfm?threadid=9766&messages=33 Template: C:\WEBSERVER\MUDCAT\HTDOCS\CHAT\..\COOKIEFILL.CFM

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Night Owl
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 01:58 PM

I got the same error message as "Shambles" today.

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: j0_77
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 02:03 PM

Try this guys - close Nestscape - find and delete the 'cache' folder. Then when you restart enable java and java script in the browser - that may fix it. (did mine)

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 05:15 PM

I truly hate java & javascript...if I leave 'em on..eventually something happens that I don't like...I

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Jo Taylor
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 07:34 PM

Works fine with M******** IE4. Talking to myself though! The problem I had above was that I didn't scroll down, silly me.
Jo
Is anybody there? or on ICQ?

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: alison
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 11:41 PM

Hi,

Just a suggestion... there are a lot of different time zones out there.. and it would be hard to get an acceptable time for everyone.. but how about if anyone who is online goes in there.... on the hour (you know when the long hand is pointing straight up) and loiters for say 5 minutes, then with a bit of luck we might bump into some other mudcatters......

what do you think?

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 11:52 PM

Good idea, Alison. I was just in there, still says I am, but I minimized it, no sense in talking to just m'self!

Otherwise, Max, it's a great new feature; I've had a lot of fun in there. Will there eventually be "rooms" for private chats? And, do our words in there get saved anywhere or do they just go off into the cyberaethers?

Thanks, katlaughing

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Pete M
Date: 21 Mar 99 - 04:41 PM

Currently in the Mudcat chat. The "audience" window shows Baz as present, and myself twice. Can't make contact though. Other than with myself, and I don't talk any sense.

Pete M

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Pete M
Date: 21 Mar 99 - 04:41 PM

Currently in the Mudcat chat. The "audience" window shows Baz as present, and myself twice. Can't make contact though. Other than with myself, and I don't talk any sense.

Pete M

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Barbara
Date: 21 Mar 99 - 06:46 PM

Pete, the window said you were there but you didn't answer anything I typed, so I bailed.
You do type in the small box at bottom and scroll, right? I try again on the next hour.
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Jo Taylor
Date: 21 Mar 99 - 08:00 PM

Hello Barbara, come in on the next hour! I've had it minimised for ages and no-one's there, and I can't seem to get the coloured box thing on the ICQ one ...somebody join me??!!
Jo

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Pete M
Date: 21 Mar 99 - 08:28 PM

Got in successfully this morning and contacted Banjer and Shambles although we could not raise Baz despite the system showing him as being present. Since then the system seems to have lost my "cookie" (Must be them "Good ole boys 'kicking ass'!") I've reset that but attempts to reconnect to the 'chat room' time out. Is this because its full? I noticed Max had increased the limit to 5.

Pete M

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: AlistairUK
Date: 22 Mar 99 - 05:53 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Teresa
Date: 22 Mar 99 - 09:18 PM

Hi. Max, someone, ... which IRC server is the one I need to use for this chat room? I'd like to try it, but can't use JAVA. Thanks, Teresa

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: SeanM
Date: 25 Mar 99 - 12:38 AM

Refresh! Spouts to starboard!

M

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Barbara
Date: 25 Mar 99 - 02:44 PM

Ah, Sean, how did you know we went whale watching last week? Lots of Blue whales heading north just off the coast of Oregon, we followed three, one at only about 10 -15 yards. They are magnificent animals.
Max, a link at the top of the page would be helpful, so I didnt have to pull up my bookmarks every time. (Or is there a simpler way I just don't know about?)
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Pete M
Date: 25 Mar 99 - 06:52 PM

First convoy escort: "Object on starboard bow. Looks like mine."

Second escort: "Well it's certainly not mine!"

Pete M

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Mar 99 - 06:56 PM

Barbara, at the top of your screen, where it says "Address", just backspace/erase to mudcat.org/ and type in after it "chat/irc.cfm"

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: AlistairUK
Date: 26 Mar 99 - 02:18 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Teresa
Date: 26 Mar 99 - 03:19 PM

Ahoy there! I got in using MIRC--no prob! Now, of course, it's down, and so is the ICQ. Batten down hatches! Teresa

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: skarpi
Date: 26 Mar 99 - 09:07 PM

Hallo I was tryin to get in the chat form, with no luck. skarpi.

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: SeanM
Date: 27 Mar 99 - 02:21 PM

Just wandered in, and it was logging me in twice! While I do enjoy talking with myself, it's a potential problem if there are only 5 people allowed in. However, it's always fun holding whisper conversations with one's self...

M

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Mar 99 - 03:08 PM

I've been getting in with no problems, but nobody else is there to talk to!

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: caatspaw49
Date: 27 Mar 99 - 03:16 PM

I'd be there if I could kat, but without my personal page I keep getting error messages.

catspaw

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Barry Finn
Date: 27 Mar 99 - 03:57 PM

I've been trying to get myself in once at a time but can't, Sean, what's your trick to getting in twice. I get the header part of the page but nothing else comes up & I go away talking to myself. Can anyone explain it to me. Barry

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Mar 99 - 04:24 PM

Catspaw, Barry:

Try going to it, independent of the Mudcat. When you open up your IE, backspace your address at the top to www.mudcat.org THEN type in : /chat/irc.cfm

and hit enter. Hopefully that will work. Kinda bypasses the threads, personal pages, and all, I think!

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Banjer
Date: 27 Mar 99 - 04:27 PM

When that happens to me, getting the header only, I simply hit RELOAD on my browsers command line and it usually gets me in.

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Barry Finn
Date: 27 Mar 99 - 04:43 PM

Thanks katlaughing & banjer, tried both of those hints before after reading some of the above posts & just tried again, still get just the header on the opening page & can't get any further. Any other tricks or explanations, anyone? Barry

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: skarpi
Date: 27 Mar 99 - 06:36 PM

Ups-I have a proplem to get into the chat form. I tryied but only got problem with cookiemembred?????? Maybe I am doing something wrong?. bless skarpi Iceland.

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: AlistairUK
Date: 29 Mar 99 - 07:43 AM

refresh

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: skarpi
Date: 29 Mar 99 - 05:16 PM

Oh men, Uff,Arg...................... I give up!. I have tryed and tryed, but with no luck. What should I do. I went over this thread and folks was talking about downloding ! what, how . Maybe my computer is to small. Oh, well there goes nothing. bless skarpi Iceland.

I shuting my computer off, I going to look into some Gealic Books, and try to slow my self down. sl n go foill, dia duit.

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Teresa
Date: 29 Mar 99 - 05:34 PM

Oh, Skarpi! I know the feeling. Have you joined Mudcat? When you do this, some information goes on your computer's hard drive so that when you enter the room, this information can be accessed. I'm talking to myselves in the chat room as I write this--hard to do, but I've done stranger things. ... Teresa

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: katlaughing
Date: 30 Mar 99 - 11:43 PM

Has anybody gone in there tonight? I just went in and it said I was the "host" and I was only allowed one person, me! I know I talk to m'self a lot already, so really didn't know what to say!

Max, have things changed? Was it something we did or didn't say? ***BG***

katl

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Jo Taylor
Date: 31 Mar 99 - 08:16 PM

One appears to get two of one! Minimise it, wait, do something else and it'll !ping! when anyone else comes in.

Jo

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Apr 99 - 10:24 PM

Is anybody remembering to go in there at the top of the hour, anymore?

I've gone in a couple of times over the last week and no one else shows up. So what give; nobody wants a 'real" time chat with the Kat?***BIG GRIN***

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: AlistairUK
Date: 05 Apr 99 - 08:35 AM

Refresh

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Apr 99 - 09:26 PM

RE-Refresh

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Alice
Date: 22 Apr 99 - 07:38 PM

I upgraded to a browser I thought would work with the chatroom, but just tried it and no-go. Is it gone, Max?

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Apr 99 - 08:21 PM

Alice,

I've been using it on a regular basis with Internet Explorer. I've met a fine cast in there, including Big Mick, Catspaw, and several others. Yes, even today, it was working.

kat

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Apr 99 - 08:40 PM

Hi, Alice. The link Max posted at the beginning of this thread still works. It loads kind of slow to start, but works very well for me. I just finished a nice chat with Big Mick.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Alice
Date: 22 Apr 99 - 09:56 PM

hmmmm .... still just get error messages. I'm using Netscape Communicator 4.51. Could it be because I am using a Mac platform?

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Alice
Date: 23 Apr 99 - 06:35 PM

This is the error message I get in the chat room:

Applet room. IRC can't start: class room/IRC got a security violation: method verificaion error

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: Tony Burns
Date: 23 Apr 99 - 07:09 PM

It looks like you have a Java error Alice. You can get to the Mudcat chat room with any IRC complient program (I use mIRC). The host is www.mudcat.org and the port number is 6667.

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: SeanM
Date: 04 May 99 - 06:16 PM

just wondering... Hey Max... any chance that there will be a link to the 'room that doesn't involve the thread soon? I'm at work, and it keeps getting harder to find this durn thing...

Thank you for the loverly toy, though!

M

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 May 99 - 06:49 PM

Sean, all you have to do to go there is go to the top of your browser where it says Address and type in the following:

http://www.mudcat.org/chat/irc.cfm

Hope this helps.

kat

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: SeanM
Date: 04 May 99 - 07:12 PM

Sorry, Kat... just lazy I guess. Main thing is that I'm an office temp, and remembering the address is the key. As an aspiring musician, I consider myself lucky to remember the URL of the cat, and the fact that I can 4 out of 5 times get my name right is a bonus...

M

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: SeanM
Date: 04 May 99 - 07:12 PM

Sorry, Kat... just lazy I guess. Main thing is that I'm an office temp, and remembering the address is the key. As an aspiring musician, I consider myself lucky to remember the URL of the cat, and the fact that I can 4 out of 5 times get my name right is a bonus...

M

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 May 99 - 08:38 PM

Well, gosh SeanM! Word association and the alphabet work fer me! If you remember the one for the cat, then that you want to "chat", then the "irc" comes before the "cfm" which is backwards alphabetically, and there ya go. Only chat, slash, irc, dot, cfm! ReallY, it works!::--)))ole foureyes

Subject: RE: New Mudcat Feature Testing
From: SeanM
Date: 12 May 99 - 12:34 AM

Just a reminder... This chat thing is still there!

Gets awful lonely though.

A while ago it was suggested that we enter the room around the start of each hour. Still sounds good to me!

Look forward to seeing you...

M