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dick greenhaus 05 Jan 07 - 08:01 PM
Peace 05 Jan 07 - 08:09 PM
Peace 05 Jan 07 - 08:17 PM
Adrianel 05 Jan 07 - 09:19 PM
dick greenhaus 06 Jan 07 - 12:07 PM
Jim Dixon 07 Jan 07 - 08:12 PM
Jim Dixon 07 Jan 07 - 08:37 PM
Peace 07 Jan 07 - 08:39 PM
Flash Company 08 Jan 07 - 10:32 AM
Joybell 08 Jan 07 - 04:41 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 14 Nov 10 - 08:44 PM
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Subject: Lyr Req: We Turned Our Darling's Picture
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 08:01 PM

Anyone know where I can find the lyrics to a 1932 Red River Dave song called "We Turned Our Darling's Picture To The Wall"?   NOT "Aunt Clara"


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: We Turned Our Darling's Picture
From: Peace
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 08:09 PM

Dick, the title is "We Turned Our Darlin's Picture To The Wall". That will make a difference with Google.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: We Turned Our Darling's Picture
From: Peace
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 08:17 PM

I came up with zip. However,

"Red River Dave's Saddle Leather Songs. Bob Miller, Inc. Music Publisher. New York, N.Y. 1940s. 34 p. of music."


Maybe an e-mail to

"Manuscripts Department, University Library of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill" will get 'em for you.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: We Turned Our Darling's Picture
From: Adrianel
Date: 05 Jan 07 - 09:19 PM

I know it's (probably) a change of subject, bu what song (or perhaps monologue) has the refrain "turn father's face to the wall, mother"? I only remember odd snatches (a relative recited it at a family get-together in the 1950s, when I was less than 10), but I'd be grateful if anyone can help with more words, and a tune if there is one.
Thanks in advance.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: We Turned Our Darling's Picture
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 12:07 PM

Thanx, Peace--I'll follow up on your lead.


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Subject: Lyr Add: PICTURE WITH ITS FACE TURNED TO THE WALL
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 08:12 PM

Could it be related to this one?

Lyrics copied from The Lester S. Levy Collection of Sheet Music:

THE PICTURE WITH ITS FACE TURNED TO THE WALL
^^ J.P. Skelly
New York: Frank Tousey's Publishing House [date illegible]

1. 'Tis the picture of a fair girl
Now turned away from view,
Once a mother's joy, a father's fond delight;
But the tempting lover came,
And forgetful of good name,
She listened to the voice that was her blight.
From her happy home she fled,
And though tears for her were shed,
No pleading could the wayward one recall.
Now her name they never speak.
To forget her they all seek.
Her picture hangs with face turned to the wall.

CHORUS: It tells the old, old story of sadness and of tears.
'Tis dead forever, now beyond recall.
It is of a daughter fair,
Now an outcast ev'rywhere,
The picture with its face turned to the wall.

2. She had home and ev'ry blessing
That fortune could bestow,
And her glad young life had never known a care,
Till the tinsel and the gold
Led her from her kindred's fold,
And she left her fond old father in despair.
In his anger stern and deep,
In his pride that would not sleep,
He cast her from his heart beyond recall;
And with frown upon his brow,
And no pity for her now,
He turns the picture face unto the wall.

3. Now she roams the world in sorrow,
And in her olden home,
With dust is clad the picture and the frame;
But the parents night and day,
While their hair is turning gray,
In silence still are dreaming of her name.
In their dreams they see her blest,
And their broken hearts attest
The love that lives whatever may befall;
Yet to worldly pride they cling,
And to them it brings a sting:
The picture with its face turned to the wall.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: We Turned Our Darling's Picture
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 08:37 PM

See also this one in the DT: THE PICTURE THAT IS TURNED TOWARD THE WALL

It can also be found at Duke University's 'Historic American Sheet Music' collection.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: We Turned Our Darling's Picture
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 08:39 PM

PS Have messaged Adrianel with details.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: We Turned Our Darling's Picture
From: Flash Company
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 10:32 AM

Adrianel... The one you are thinking of was a Gracie Field's piece. I dont know all yhe words but it should be fairly easy to trace:-

Turn Herberts face to the wall, Mother,
Never more mention his name,
He's brought sad disgrace to the family,
And....................(Senior moment!)

FC


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: We Turned Our Darling's Picture
From: Joybell
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 04:41 PM

According to Sigmund Spaeth, "Read 'em and Weep" - Who is not to be trusted too much - but tells a good story - Charles Graham started the whole picture to the wall thing. Graham saw it done in an unremembered melodrama. He was so taken with it that he went and wrote "The Picture that is Turned Toward the Wall" (mentioned upbove).
I love this song. I'd dearly love to have people refer to it as "Joy's Picture...." except I dislike songs being attributed wrongly. One of my pet peeves.
Cheers, Joy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: We Turned Our Darling's Picture to the...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 08:44 PM

The Picture that Is Turned Toward the Wall, Charles Graham, 1891, linked to sheet music by Jim Dixon (and in the DT), was printed on a song sheet by H. J. Weiman and copies distributed in England. A copy is in the Bodleian Collection, Harding B 18(399).

Vernon Dalhart recorded it. Did he keep Graham's lyrics?

The sheet music of the song by Skelly, above, also is dated 1891.
Coincidence?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: We Turned Our Darling's Picture to the...
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 17 Nov 10 - 04:45 PM

WorldCat.org shows that the British Library has sheet music for a song called WE TURNED OUR DARLING'S PICTURE TO THE WALL by Dave McEnery, 1943.

Dave McEnery was also known as Red River Dave.

The song is mentioned in the book The Songs that Fought the War: Popular Music and the Home Front, 1939-1945 by John Bush Jones (Lebanon, NH: University Press of New England, 2006), pages 51-52, 99. From page 99:

"...But the most emotionally charged of the country songs is the earlier mentioned 'We Turned Our Darling's Picture to the Wall.' A World War I veteran's son turns draft dodger, and his family feels such shame that 'one loving face today we forever turned away / When we turned our darling's picture to the wall.'"


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: We Turned Our Darling's Picture to the...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 17 Sep 12 - 11:31 AM

I am finding some sites that title the song, "We Turned Our Darling's Picture TOWARD the Wall."


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