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Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: Scrump Date: 24 Jan 07 - 10:27 AM This makes me wonder: do all those singers we admire, actually sound even better to themselves than they do to us? If only we could record what they hear inside their heads! |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: Scoville Date: 24 Jan 07 - 10:45 AM GUEST, Claire: I think I've got a Geo Metro. |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: TIA Date: 24 Jan 07 - 10:52 AM When I hear my own voice recorded, I simply see my brother in my mind's eye. We have been told all our lives that we sound just alike, but I never really believe it. So my own voice - to my mind - is simply my brother. These brainses are tricksie. |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: Joe Offer Date: 24 Jan 07 - 01:09 PM One time, I was a little tired and unwittingly left my dictation machine recording while I answered the phone, so I recorded myself without knowing it. When I played it back, I heard a Wisconsin countyr yokel. I don't sound like that when I know I'm being recorded. Since I pride myself in being a Wisconsin country yokel (even though I moved to California in 1971), it gave me satisfaction to know my Wisconsin accent comes through when I'm relaxed. But I have to say I'm not very satisfied when I hear my singing on a recording. I think I sound pretty good "live," but maybe I don't. -Joe- |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 24 Jan 07 - 02:20 PM I have the same problem. I don't absolutely hate my recorded voice, but since I try always to be honest with myself, I have to state that if I came across my CD as a stranger I would most certainly not buy it. Fortunately, I do seem to be in the minority, as it sells rather well wherever I go. Thank the Lord for small mercies. Don T. |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: Liz the Squeak Date: 24 Jan 07 - 05:28 PM I guess that's why when you hear a performer sing live and buy the CD, it's always a bit of a disappointment when you listen to it at home - and not always because the 'stage presence' isn't there. Ho hum. LTS |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: skipy Date: 24 Jan 07 - 05:44 PM not happened to me, got onto 2 of the w#########y cd s a few years ago, you buy then at the next festival a year on, both came home & stayed in their wrappers and got hidden unplayed, kids may find them after I'm planted, but for sure I will not hear them. Skipy |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: Rowan Date: 24 Jan 07 - 07:15 PM Telephones can be quite deceiving anyway, Joe. When people ring me at work, it seems I answer with several different voices, depending on what they think of the level of formality involved. I taped myself doing it, just to check whether it really was my voice that changed and not just their perceptions. Sure enough, my voice changed. Cheers, Rowan |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: GUEST Date: 24 Jan 07 - 07:45 PM "On top of this, your spoken voice is usually different from your singing voice, even at the beginning. As you become more proficient at singing, the differences between your two voices can become even more marked, unless you train one or both. The training can be quite unconscious. If you listen to lots of singing done in what some might call 'regional dialects' that are different from your own, you may find that, when you sing the same songs, you voice is reproducing some of the characteristics of that (or those) dialects even though you're not conscious of it; listeners with a good ear can pick it up though." THANK YOU!!! I was worried that I was just still in the habit of copying other peoples' voices. Thanks, I needed the reassurance. My accent has gotten so out of hand, though, that it's actually starting to affect my normal speech. Weird... |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: GUEST,Christian Date: 24 Jan 07 - 07:46 PM Whoops, forgot to put my name in that last one. Sorry! |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: Houston_Diamond Date: 24 Jan 07 - 07:58 PM If only someone could invent a machine to record what you hear when you sing then we (including the tone deaf) could produce great music ;p Similarly I've always hated singing with microphones live because a similar thing happens and I get confused and think I'm doing a duet!!! :s H8 recording Outgoing Messages for my answerphone (my voice sounds far higher than I imagine it!) |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: Deckman Date: 24 Jan 07 - 08:21 PM This is being an interesting thread. The difference between my singing voice and my speaking voice was made clear to me several years ago in an interesting way. "Bride Judy" and I were out for a nice dinner at a high end restaurant. We were seated in a area of very high booths. This meant that we had much privacy. We were chitter chatting, as lovers do, when suddenly three wimmen appeared at out table. They had been seated next to us and could hear our voices. They all said,"we came over to meet Sean Connery!" They all claimed that my speaking voice reminded them of him. I've since heard that comment several times. My answer I still remember: "I hear that people tell Sean that he sounds just like me!" (bad bad Bob) CHEERS, Bob(deckman)Nelson |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: GUEST Date: 24 Jan 07 - 08:34 PM I'm really enjoying this thread - it's interesting and it's helpful. Stepping beyond the original question, though, of how others feel about the sound of their own voices on recording, I wonder why we record our voices at all. For me, it is a tool. I don't record myself on my computer to listen to myself in the evening and admire my voice. I record so that I can fix my mistakes. I've been surprised so many times to find that not only does a song not sound like I thought it did, as far as my vocal quality, but it doesn't sound like I WANTED it to, or meant it to, even in tempo, or in pitch, or in expression. Many times, the way a song feels as one is singing it is not the way a song comes to the ear. Recording and listening to yourself can be a marvelous self-teaching device. Another writer suggested recording yourself again and again, and I couldn't agree more. You will get over the sound of your voice, and you'll find yourself listening not to YOU, but to what you're singing. Believe me, there will come a day when you listen to one of your recordings, and you will say, "Now THAT'S what I wanted!" |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: Deckman Date: 24 Jan 07 - 10:16 PM Well said! I'm in the process of recording my first CD. With the guidance of a good engineer, I'm close to saying the same thing ... "that's what I wanted!" Bob |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: Sandy Mc Lean Date: 25 Jan 07 - 05:20 AM I sometimes use my computer with a dollar store mike to practice/record on Audacity. A cheap digital mike may be very accurate in reproducing your voice if it has a flat frequency response and good signal to noise ratio and good sensitivity, and some have all of that. The cheap computer speakers are another matter though. I shitcanned mine long ago, replacing them with my daughter's abandoned Panasonic ghetto blaster. This makes a world of difference in playing any music on my computer. It does help if you are in a room with good accoustics though. Some singers will cover one ear to better hear their internal voice but that makes it hard to play along on guitar. With a good sound system monitor speakers do the same trick. There are many recording tricks that professional sound men use and they have fancy equipment to do this, but much is based on changing what is recorded rather than reproducing it accurately. Sandy |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: GUEST,JTT Date: 25 Jan 07 - 06:07 AM My mother died in 1987. I heard a recording of her voice last week, and she sounded *nothing* like herself. I would not have recognised her voice from the recording. |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: Bee Date: 25 Jan 07 - 10:54 AM Thanks for that information, Sandy. I've tried to download Audacity on someone else's advice, but so far my old Win98 computer on chancy dialup has balked at the task. I'll keep trying; eventually the old thing will come through for me. |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: shepherdlass Date: 25 Jan 07 - 11:24 AM I'm always horrified when I hear my voice recorded. Then I listen to the same tapes a few years later and it's nowhere near as painful. Still not like the sound that I THINK I produce while singing (i suppose the voice resonates differently inside your head) but not as cringeworthy as it felt when I first heard it back. Have you tried recording your voice multi-tracked, either in unison (where your tuning has to be really accurate) or in harmonies? If it sounds a bit 'thin' solo, it may well sound amazing in chorus with itself. (Certainly how it works for me - trouble is, it makes the solo bits sound even worse in comparison). And, yes, GUEST, isn't recording an amazing tool for spotting and fixing mistakes? Amazing how you can sing a song for years and not notice you've always ended a particular phrase flat, and so on. |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: GUEST,Claire Date: 25 Jan 07 - 02:02 PM Having just come from the studio last night, where I was fixing the first two line of "I courted a wee girl" octave jump and all - I am particularly tuned into everyone's angst over this issue. It took me about 20 takes (or seemed like) to get those lines soft enough, well supported, with feeling, and all the other rot that goes into it. Recording takes a certain level of persistance that requires being beyond the shock value of listening. One of the most valuable tools we used in this project was recording our rehearsals and distributing the scratch recordings to everyone. I bet it has cut down our recording time by a third. So, not just vocalists benefit from recording themselves and listening - if you are in a band it can be invaluable. From now on, we will record our rehearsals to help us arrange new material not just in prep for a cd. Claire |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: Joybell Date: 25 Jan 07 - 04:24 PM Something I always notice is that when singing (harmony) with my husband live - I think we sound OK. The blend seems good, I'm in tune with him - but recorded it's all wrong. The balance is right out. Funny thing too -- that if I record myself singing harmony with myself -- that doesn't work either. We (the two or three of me) are in tune but it sounds like two, or three, people who have never met or sung together -- and should never, never try it again. True-Love sounds great singing with himself. I was born to sing alone I guess. Cheers, Joy |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: Liz the Squeak Date: 26 Jan 07 - 02:54 AM If I record our telephone message, it doesn't matter how I sound to myself on recording - I aim for clear, concise and business-like - it always comes over as unbearably perky and don't you just want to slap people like me first thing in the morning! Hey, I can't help it, I'm one of nature's happy morning people! LTS |
Subject: RE: Hearing your own voice recorded From: Bob the Postman Date: 26 Jan 07 - 11:47 AM A few years ago I had the notion, "When I retire, I will busk--even though I can't play guitar for shit, at least I can sing." Much to my surprise, when I recorded myself, I quite liked my playing but was appalled by my singing. The first thing I did was get a better recorder. When that didn't work I took vocal lessons--I didn't improve much, but at least I became innurred to my own mediocrity. I find my recorded singing voice much more thin and feeble than what I hear in my head--but if I overdub a unison track, then the two of me together sound just about adequate. |
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