Songbooks: Great Ballad Books Online

Subject: Great Ballad Books Online
From: GUEST,Masato at work
Date: 23 Jan 07 - 11:40 PM

These ballad books are online at Internet Archive: Text Archive.

English And Scottish Popular Ballads, ed. George Lyman Kittredge (abridged one-volume ed.)

The English and Scottish Popular Ballads (parts 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, and 7), ed. Francis James Child

The English And Scottish Popular Ballads, Volumes I & V, ed. Francis James Child (Folklore Press reprint editions, 1956)

English and Scottish Ballads, 8 vols., ed. Francis James Child (1860 edition)

Reliques of Ancient English Poetry, 3 vols. (MDCCXCIV and MDCCCXXXIX editions) - Thomas Percy

Bishop Percy's Folio Manuscript : Ballads and Romances, 3 vols. (1867-68) ["Loose and Humorous Songs" is not available]

Popular Ballads and Songs, 2 vols. - Robert Jamieson

Minstrelsy : Ancient and Modern (1827) - William Motherwell

Minstrelsy of the Scottish Border, by Sir Walter Scott, 4 vols., edited by T.F. Henderson (1902)

Subject: RE: Great Ballad Books Online
From: GUEST,Masato at work
Date: 23 Jan 07 - 11:54 PM

Correction:

The English and Scottish Popular Ballads (parts 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9), ed. Francis James Child.

Parts 1 and 2 are separately included in two Volume 1's, and so on.

Subject: RE: Great Ballad Books Online
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 24 Jan 07 - 06:17 AM

Wow, Masato! An incredible resource, and not just for the music, either. I had no idea there was a site with all this kind of information--Thanks for the great link!

Lin

Subject: RE: Great Ballad Books Online
From: Leadfingers
Date: 24 Jan 07 - 07:00 AM

It almost makes me want to sing ballads ! Thanks for the link Sir !

Subject: RE: Great Ballad Books Online
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Jan 07 - 12:10 PM

well, there is some amazing technology here. I went to Masato's link, entered "Motherwell" in the search box, scrolled down to the 'Minstrelsy' link and got several ways to access the work...also, there was a small image which said "view the book". When I clicked the image, I got a "javascript" note saying "currently only IE and Firefox are supported for the flipbook viewer"....but when I closed that message and tried, I found that Opera 9 worked just fine, and I found myself clicking back & forth, turning pages in a virtual copy of Motherwell...in a quite readable format. Evidently, what they have done is to make a .PDF file into a clickable format....and by downloading the .PDF, you can have a copy on your computer...complete with the ability to magnify the pages to suit...

(note..this is a 63MG file. You need broadband)
Since I do not own Motherwell, I think I will go browse some more!

Subject: RE: Great Ballad Books Online
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Jan 07 - 12:14 PM

Oh...just incidently, for those who might not realize, in most browsers, F-11 will give you a full-page view, eliminating title bars and such.

Subject: RE: Great Ballad Books Online
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Jan 07 - 12:30 PM

Since I do have broadband, I downloaded the PDF file of Motherwell's Minstrelsy....for most PDFs, I use the nice Foxit Reader which has been discussed here, but it seemed to choke on this large file, so I resorted to Adobe..(version 6, right now).

Subject: RE: Great Ballad Books Online
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Jan 07 - 03:32 PM

REfresh...just because...

Subject: RE: Great Ballad Books Online
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Jan 07 - 04:57 PM

Since I do NOT have broadband, I am exceedingly jealous.
-Joe, in the Wilderness-

Subject: RE: Great Ballad Books Online
From: Bee
Date: 24 Jan 07 - 05:08 PM

Ditto - Bee, in another Wilderness.

But what a great resource! A fine link, Masato.

Subject: RE: Great Ballad Books Online
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 24 Jan 07 - 05:18 PM

Overwhelmed.
Tried the Motherwell. It works so well!
Looks like the University of Toronto helped on that one.

Have to figure out their system. I tried Music and Arts, and Motherwell not found, but 'texts' works. Anyone familiar with their indexing?

Subject: RE: Great Ballad Books Online
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Jan 07 - 05:23 PM

I have only had broadband for just over two years....before that I would use tricks to get large files I coveted. One was simply to start it at bedtime and let in run for a couple hours....or whatever.

Another was to use programs that would download 2 or more pieces at once, and reassemble them later. There are various download managers that will do this....and some of them will do the third trick...to stop when necessary and 'resume' when convenient. Finally, it is sometimes possible to get someone to break a large file into smaller pieces using something like HJSplit...then the smaller pieces can be collected when convenient. And if THIS doesn't work, remember,,,the entire Digital Tradition used to be distributed on floppy disks! Now we have CDs....what we need is volunteers to make 'em & mail 'em for those who just can't download.

Since this site makes these files available for download, anyone with room on their HD can have these resources.

Subject: RE: Great Ballad Books Online
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 24 Jan 07 - 05:51 PM

Great in many ways!

I wanted to know when the expression 'fiddler's green' was first applied to a place for sailors. Originally it meant a resting place for animals; the first marine reference apparently was by Marryat in the novel "Snarleyyow," about a shipboard dog.
Did Marryat apply it to animals or sailors?
Could not find the book online with Google, so I ordered it (not yet arrived and which I may never read except to find the answer).

It came up immediately when I entered Marryat in 'texts.'

Subject: RE: Great Ballad Books Online
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Jan 07 - 02:13 PM

one more refresh, as everyone who might be interested needs to have a chance to read about these archives.

Subject: RE: Great Ballad Books Online
From: masato sakurai
Date: 26 Jan 07 - 07:15 PM

Correction above corrected:

The English and Scottish Popular Ballads (parts 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 10), ed. Francis

James Child.

Parts 3 & 9 are included in Folklore Press reprint editions (1956), Vols. I & V respectively.

Additions:

R. Brimley Johnson, A Book of British Ballads ([1912])

R. Brimley Johnson, Popular British Ballads : Ancient and Modern, 4 vols. (1894)

Hamilton Wright Mabie, A Book of old English Ballads ([1910])

James Henry Dixon, Ballads and songs of the peasantry of England, taken down from oral

recitation and transcribed from private manuscripts, rare broadsides and scarce publications by

James Henry Dixon; edited by Robert Bell ([1864?])

Graham R. Tomson, Border Ballads (1888)

John Ashton, Modern Street Ballads (1888)

Thomas Evans, Old Ballads; Historical and Narrative, vols. 2-4 (1777-1784)

Richard Clay (Firm) (printer), Old English Ballads : A Collection of Favourite Ballads of the

Olden Time (1864)

John Pinkerton, Scottish Tragic Ballads (1781)

John Pinkerton, Select Scotish Ballads, 2 vols. (1783)

S. C. Hall, The Book of British Ballads (1842)

Andrew Lang, A Collection of Ballads (1897)

Criticism & History:

George Clinton Densmore Odell, Simile and metaphor in the English and Scottish ballads

(1892) [This study is based on Child's earlier edition.]

Francis Barton Gummere, The Popular Ballad (1907)

M J C.Hodgart, The Ballads (1950)

Others:

Robert Chambers, Popular Rhymes of Scotland (1870)

James C. Dick, The Songs of Robert Burns (1903)

Subject: RE: Great Ballad Books Online
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Jan 07 - 08:35 PM

I wish they had the George Farquhar Graham (edited by) version of "Songs of Scotland" which has tunes printed. I would even loan them my copy for scanning. (It was one of Child's sources when compiling his final list)