BS: Trivial Toast Question

Subject: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: The Walrus
Date: 02 Feb 07 - 05:59 AM

A silly question (the things that come to mind when you can't sleep)

Does anyone have a name for bread toasted on one side and buttered on the other?

My late Mother, occasionally called it "Ginny Freeze"* when I was a kid.

Does the name ring a bell?
Does anyone have a name for it?
Does anyone know where "Ginny Freeze" might have come from?

It started as an idle thought, now it's bugging me.

Thanks

Walrus


* Perhaps it was "Jinny Free's" I don't know, I never saw it written

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: GUEST,Mr Red who does not know --- actually
Date: 02 Feb 07 - 06:35 AM

Hi Walrus

No but we used to have bread toasted after it had been buttered on one side and called it French toast. I think the non-butter side was toasted dry or not toasted according to taste

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: Scrump
Date: 02 Feb 07 - 10:04 AM

We used to call it French toast too, but I believe the term 'French toast' is used for other forms of toast by other people.

Never could see the point. I like toast properly toasted - I hate it wehn you get toast that's no more than bread that's been made warm.

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: GUEST,Scoville
Date: 02 Feb 07 - 10:11 AM

I've only ever seen "French toast" as a term for bread sopped in egg & milk and cooked on a griddle. Bread just toasted was just toast, no matter how you buttered or didn't butter it.

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 02 Feb 07 - 12:18 PM

This rings a very faint bell from my Yorkshire childhood. Frizzy Ginnie?

Like I said it is a very faint bell!

Rhiannon

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: Bee
Date: 02 Feb 07 - 12:49 PM

My grandmother used to prepare Soaked Toast for Grandpa. You cut two large thick slices of homemade white bread. Remove lid from coal stove firebox. Toast bread. Butter the toast, place in wide bowl, pour over it a mixture of boiling water and dissolved white sugar.

It was awful, btw.

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Feb 07 - 01:21 PM

Here's my favorite song about toast, a little ditty by Heywood Banks:

Toast
by Heywood Banks

All around the country and coast to coast
People always say, "what do you like most?"
I don't want to brag, I don't want to boast
I always tell 'em, "I like toast."
YEAH, TOAST!!
YEAH, TOAST!!


I get up in the morning 'bout six A.M.
Have a little jelly, have a little jam
Take a piece of bread, put it in the slot
Push down the lever and the wires get hot,
I get toast.
YEAH, TOAST!
YEAH, TOAST!


Now, there's no secret to toasting perfection
There's a dial on the side and you make your selection
Push to the dark or the light and then
If it pops too soon, press down again
Make toast.
YEAH, TOAST!
YEAH, TOAST!


When the first caveman drove in from the drags
Didn't know what would go with the bacon and the eggs
Must have met a genius, got it in his head
Plug the toaster in the wall, buy a bag of bread
Make toast.
YEAH, TOAST!
YEAH, TOAST!


Oui Monsieur, bonjour coquette,
Une croissant? Et vous auvent?
Maurice Chevalier, Eiffel Tower,
Oui Marie, baguette, bonsoir!
FRENCH TOAST!
FRENCH TOAST!


In Chicago or (fill in location).....
TOAST!!!!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Feb 07 - 03:01 PM

I suggest we ask Bobert. Sounds like Wes Ginny Freeze to me.

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 03 Feb 07 - 03:26 AM

The recipe known to Americans as french Toast is what the British refer to as eggy bread.

But in the UK they don't put syrup on it, which is obviously mental.

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: Folkiedave
Date: 03 Feb 07 - 04:46 AM

I've been to America - they put syrup on everything - like bacon for example. I'd have thought a good Prudhoe girl like yourself would go barmy at the thought.

When the Glen Rock Carolers came to Sheffield in 2002, they stopped off at Manchester for an introduction to the "Full English Breakfast" after their long overnight trip across the Atlantic. One of them, looking at the back bacon not burnt to a crisp doubted if it had been cooked. (For people who have never been to America they only seem to have streaky burnt to a crisp).

And the black pudding caused a sensation.

Careful whom you are calling mental.

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: gnu
Date: 03 Feb 07 - 05:04 AM

"Does anyone have a name for bread toasted on one side and buttered on the other?".........

Lazy.

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: GUEST,Mr Red opening the back door to let the smok
Date: 03 Feb 07 - 06:11 AM

Scrump

I hate it wehn you get toast that's no more than bread that's been made warm.

amaemic toast - yuk. When the smoke alarm sounds - it's done!

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: GUEST,buspassed
Date: 03 Feb 07 - 06:27 AM

If you can't draw with it then it's still bread!

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: skipy
Date: 03 Feb 07 - 07:50 AM

Lancashire in the 50s - french toast.
But which way up it landed when you dropped it, I can't remember!
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: JennyO
Date: 03 Feb 07 - 08:08 AM

The real question is - if a cat always lands on its feet and toast always falls butter side down - if you strap a piece of toast to a cat's back and drop it from a great height, which way will it land?

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: skipy
Date: 03 Feb 07 - 08:15 AM

It will rotate, a few inches above the ground, if this power could be harnessed we would not need to buy anymore oil!
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 03 Feb 07 - 11:40 AM

We tried it. The cat just sunk it's claws into nearest person....

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: Cluin
Date: 03 Feb 07 - 01:47 PM

"The real question is - if a cat always lands on its feet and toast always falls butter side down - if you strap a piece of toast to a cat's back and drop it from a great height, which way will it land?"

That's a perpetual motion machine. The cat/toast dynamo will never land. It just keeps spinning in mid-air indefinitely.


"I've been to America - they put syrup on everything...

Actually, they put cheese on everything. Or what passes for cheese, anyway.


I've got a toast recipe an old tree-planting foreman told me about once, but I won't pass it on here. For several reasons.

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Feb 07 - 02:06 PM

USA - land of burnt bacon and raw steaks. No, somehow a pattern doesn't seem to emerge...

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: Mr Red
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 12:10 PM

Look - it is quite simple

If your toast is landing butter side down.............











You are buttering the wrong side.

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: kendall
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 12:37 PM

You guys had bread when you were kids? We would have killed for bread!

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: Bee
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 01:33 PM

"We would have killed for bread!"

That's why nobody gave you any!

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: Anne Lister
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 04:43 PM

The only time I ever toast bread on one side only is if the untoasted side is destined for cheese, to be toasted.

And an American friend facing a Full English for the first time was convinced he was being served gammon instead of bacon, as he'd never seen back bacon before (or un-cindered streaky, for that matter).

Me, I can eat eggy bread or French toast on either side of the Atlantic, with or without syrup. The only problem I find with American breakfasts is how to make all those decisions so early in the morning....

Anne

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: John O'L
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 06:57 PM

Trivial Toast Question
Does anyone have a name for bread toasted on one side and buttered on the other?

As is so often the case in Trivial Pursuit, the answer is in the question.
It is called Trivial Toast.
Roll again?

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 07:43 PM

I'm surprised that Canberra Chris's Toast Song hasn't had a mention yet.....

Kitty

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: Mo the caller
Date: 04 Feb 07 - 07:51 PM

Nothing to do with toast, but is that the same guest with 3 different chromatic names?
If this was The Answer Bank you could get banned for less

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: JennyO
Date: 05 Feb 07 - 10:52 AM

Kitty, I thought of it, and I would have posted the words, but they are nowhere to be seen on the Internet. When I have a bit more time, I'll copy it from my Shiny Bums songbook.

*sings* ...I've burnt the toast on both sides now....

Subject: Lyr Add: BOTH SIDES NOW (THE TOAST SONG) (parody)
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 05 Feb 07 - 05:57 PM

Jenny

Here they are - as sung at C# House by the Middle Bar Singers to commemorate the passing of Gloomy Bob.

I'm in discussions with Chris about the forthcoming SBS tour of England, and the possibility of a performance at my place of work.

Kitty

Both Sides Now (The Toast Song)

© 1971. Chris Clarke

In morning time when I arise
My breakfast fare is no surprise,
I pour the cornflakes, make the tea
And then reach for the bread.
I turn the gas on, light the grill,
And think this time I really will
Stay wide awake, make perfect toast
And start the day well-fed …
I'll lightly toast it both sides now,
Both up and down
To golden brown,
The toasting time I will recall,
I really can make toast
… After all.

But then I read, to pass the time,
The cornflakes advertising rhyme,
I hear the news, but don't take in
A single item read.
And then an old familiar smell
Invades the dream world where I dwell,
And fills the room with flames and smoke
And fumes of burning bread …
I've burnt the toast on both sides now,
Both front and back -
To charcoal black,
The toasting time I don't recall,
I really can't make toast
… After all.

And so I scrape it in the bin,
Which makes the slices rather thin,
Then wipe the knife upon the cloth
Back in my dream-like state.
I butter it with marmalade,
Then to correct the mess I've made
Spread butter on the other side
And stick it to the plate …
My toast is buttered both sides now,
Both left and right,
I'm none too bright,
The buttering I don't recall,
I really can't make toast
… At all.

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: Charley Noble
Date: 05 Feb 07 - 08:37 PM

Chris may not be able to make great toast but he can come up with a great parody.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: frogprince
Date: 05 Feb 07 - 09:33 PM

At home, on the farm in Minnesota, we had french toast (eggy bread) fairly often, and ate it with butter and salt and pepper. I later found out most Americans eat it with syrup. Restaurants often use a little sugar, which spoils it for eating it "old home style" anyhow.
If I get some in a restaurant, and they don't sweeten it, I revert to the butter and salt and pepper; I may put syrup on just the last fraction, for a little "dessert".

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: GUEST,Hardwyck
Date: 06 Jun 08 - 09:13 AM

We called it "scroty" on account of the distinctive tactile quality of the untoasted side.

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 06 Jun 08 - 11:58 AM

When I was growing up I always called it "Hey, Ma! The Goddammed toaster's on the fritz again!"

Mom, on the other hand, called it "Shut up you little shit! Eat it or go hungry!"

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: ClaireBear
Date: 06 Jun 08 - 12:31 PM

California brown bear here...

My father, a dyed-in-the-wool Nebraskan, used to make sugarless French toast and use salt and pepper as seasoning, as do I -- so there!

And by the way, I've never once burnt my streaky bacon to a cinder. I gently coax it, over very low heat, to a crunchy medium brown with all the fat rendered out, which not the same thing at all.

Now, I have a neighbor who is capable of burning the meaty bits of each rasher to a cinder while leaving the fatty portions wholly unrendered and equally unappetizing. This is what happens if you cook it over high heat. Simple, really.

Claire

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 06 Jun 08 - 02:42 PM

When I was back in my "deprived" childhood, in the late 30s, we didn't have a toaster. My grandmother, who lived downstairs, would butter bread (one side) and put it under the broiler of the oven (butter up). that was "toast". Sort of soggy, and splotchy looking.

Then we got a toaster. No pop-up. Instead, there were two sides to the toaster, each side a bottom-hinged door at maybe a seventy degree slant. The coils were in the center, and both sides were exposed to the hot coils. You judged when it was done enough, flipped the door down, and the toast slid down and you flipped the door up again, thus turning the untoasted side toward the hot coils. When you thought the second side was done, you opened the door and removed the toast.

This was heaven! My cousin Joyce, who lived downstairs with my grandparents, and I would make a special occasion of making toast in the toaster and buttering it. Great treat for us, for a while until the novelty wore off.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: Trivial Toast Question
From: Gurney
Date: 06 Jun 08 - 08:16 PM

Claire, my wife grills her streaky like yours.

Never understood why. If you don't like bacon, just put salt on raw breakfast cereal.

Soft and fatty, as nature intended.