Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Scoville Date: 03 Feb 07 - 12:38 PM Anyone for Ma Rainey? Rough but interesting, too. I'd love to know what she would have sounded like with newer recording technology. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: GUEST,Wayne Date: 03 Feb 07 - 01:18 PM Kent Duchaine |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Leadbelly Date: 04 Feb 07 - 10:45 AM Apart from almost all artists mentioned Abi (Abraham) Wallenstein. Living in Hamburg, Germany he's doing a fascinating job on his 12-string guitar over more than 40 years now. Manfred |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: GUEST,Fred Bailey Date: 04 Feb 07 - 12:18 PM anybody know "Rabbit Brown" ? fantastic lyrics been on his trail for awhile |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Big Al Whittle Date: 04 Feb 07 - 02:05 PM My favourite guy was a chap called Gerry Lockran, who died a few years ago. he used to play the English folk clubs. He had an old Martin, but in later years opted for an Ovation. He was Indian/Celtic - Scottish or Irish - and originally he was Loughran. he had a stunning guitar tone, the whole room would be rocking from the just the first bluesy phrase thats seemed to hang in the air. he also had a deep growling voice, and he was a beautiful looking guy. There is a good reminisence of him and one or two pictures in Derek Brimstones second volume of autobiography. His son Jason has put a website about him together. I suppose he was one of those geniuses the English folkscene throws up occasionally. if you are interested in the subject of blues singer/guitarists, I should like to mention occasional contributor to Mudcat, Elijah Wald. he has written a most remarkable book about the late Josh White - which is utterly fascinating reading. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: GUEST,Tunesmith Date: 04 Feb 07 - 03:42 PM I can't stand white lads singing "de blues", and there are so many of them! No white person can match the pre-war vocal power of Son House, Robert Johnson and Skip James; and, no white person can match the post-war power of Buddy Guy or Otis Rush. Having said that! I'm a big Bonnie Raitt fan. Instrumentally, maybe I'll concede that a few white lads can produce the goods. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: redsnapper Date: 05 Feb 07 - 09:29 AM I am ashamed! I should have mentioned Jo-Ann Kelly too specially as she was a friend! RS |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Roger the Skiffler Date: 05 Feb 07 - 09:30 AM Nice to see a mention of Kenny Duchaine, the first American bluesman I saw when I started visting my local club after I retired. He hasn't been back since though he still tours UK each year. Got a couple of his CDs. RtS |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Paco Rabanne Date: 05 Feb 07 - 09:39 AM Paul Kossoff. Resistance is futile.... |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Brian Hoskin Date: 05 Feb 07 - 10:15 AM Too many to mention, but . . . Charlie Patton Curley Weaver Skippy James Lonnie Johnson Robert Johnson Willie McTell Blind Lemon Jefferson |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Wesley S Date: 05 Feb 07 - 11:58 AM Tunesmith - The old "whitemen can't sing the blues" argument? In a word - hogwash. I won't try to convince you that you're mistaken so let's just agree to disagree. Since after all - like the lady said who kissed the cow - it's all just a matter of taste. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Big Al Whittle Date: 05 Feb 07 - 12:49 PM just somebody trying to be controversial. Don't waste your time. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: GUEST,Tunesmith Date: 05 Feb 07 - 01:23 PM Read the posting properly!!! I didn't say that white men couldn't sing the blues. I said that I didn't like white men singing the blues with phoney, black affectations! i.e. trying to sound like they come from Mississippi, when, for example, they come from the UK or Boston, USA! But, I will maintain that no white singer has the power or command of the singers that I cited in my original posting. Strangely, it is a women, Bonnie Raitt, who, to my ears, comes closest - as a white person. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Wesley S Date: 05 Feb 07 - 02:02 PM I read your post which is why I replyed. You are welcome to your opinion - I just don't happen to agree with it. I'll cite both John Hammond Jr, Geoff Muldaur and Steve James as modern day performers who play blues with feeling and passion. If you doen't enjoys their artistry that's fine. It's just a shame that you've dismissed a lot of excellent performers. IN MY OPINION - which you are welcome to disagree with - the "blues" is not defined by a date or the color of the performers skin. PS - In my CD player today - Bukka White recorded in 1937 and 1940. Powerful stuff. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: GUEST,Tunesmith Date: 05 Feb 07 - 02:59 PM John Hammond Jr was a rich, middle-class white kid trying to sound like a dirt poor working-class black man from the Deep South! That says it all! |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Big Al Whittle Date: 05 Feb 07 - 09:40 PM If you really revere the black performers, perhaps you will take a word of advice from the great Son House who famously said, Nothing I hate worse than hearing a man's music being criticised...... If you listen more carefully to Mr Hammond, I think you will hear someone trying for self expression, using the techniques that he has chosen. He's also worked bloody hard to put together what he has done. theres just too much of this on Mudcat. People deriding a lifetime's effort of creativity. A few weeks ago, we had some idiot talking about Ewan MacColl in utterly disparaging tones. If WE can't show a bit of respect for people of ability who do their damndest to produce something, what hope is there for the greater society out there. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: dick greenhaus Date: 05 Feb 07 - 10:13 PM Nobody's mentioned him, and I know that a lot of purists (who never heard his earlier stuff) scorn him, bu Josh White has to be one of the shining stars in the blues galaxy. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: GUEST,Mr. Bourgeois Date: 05 Feb 07 - 10:55 PM I'll put a plug in for Ry Cooder. A blues slide guitarist whose merits cannot be argued. I would also like to take the opportunity in this thread to salute the late Paul Butterfield, a blues harmonica virtuoso and singer in his own right. Who said middle class caucasin kids can't grow up and perform the blues? Probably the same dope who says Afro American girls from lower class environments can't grow up and become opera singers such as the outstanding diva herself Grace Bumbry. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Janice in NJ Date: 05 Feb 07 - 11:23 PM Favorite: Bessie Smith. Runners-up: Billie Holiday, Etta Baker, Ma Rainey. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: GUEST,Tunesmith Date: 06 Feb 07 - 03:54 AM Again, here we go! It is very important that one reads postings very carefully! White men can sing the blues! I have no problem with that! My "problem" arises with white singers doing "impersonations" of black artists. I would agree that some do it very, very well. I remember the first time I saw Jo Anne Kelly ( Bunjies, July 1966 ). I was amazed! BUT, I feel an artist must find their own voice - which should be a recogniseable extention of their own speaking voice - and not mimick the voices of singers from a very different social, cultural and geographical background |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: fat B****rd Date: 06 Feb 07 - 04:59 AM Good morning, Tunesmith. Exeffingactly !! Here we go again. If singers didn't mimic the voices of other singers then hardly anybody would sing ! Not just Folk and Blues but what about Opera ? The different social, cultural and geographical backgrounds of characters in Opera couldn't be more different from those of the performers. This sort of thing has been dealt with on other threads but I find it fascinating. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Big Al Whittle Date: 06 Feb 07 - 05:50 AM Does it bloody matter? You do what you can. Some artists find they have an affinity with water colours, others with oils, some with electrocuting fish in public. The miniscule differences between Derek Brimstone and Martin Carthy and Bob Copper have kept an entire army of busybody thought police of the folk music movement happy as Larry - dissing whichever side they didn't like. They would have been better occupied trying to inject a little creativity into their own lives - rather slinging verbal shit at hardworking musicians. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Wesley S Date: 06 Feb 07 - 09:07 AM "My "problem" arises with white singers doing "impersonations" of black artists." For the sake of argument - do you feel the same way about English performers {The Beatles come to mind} that sing like Americans? |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Big Al Whittle Date: 06 Feb 07 - 10:07 AM Where will it end, how do you feel about teachers who try to sing like illiterate miners and farm workers? Value your artists for not burying their talents in a field, but working and trying to do something with it. Its the natuire of art that some people have more supporters than others. If this is how a person spends his life rather than beating up old folk, and selling drugs, and planning multiple murders or sitting mindlessly in front of the television - just what does it take to earn a nod of approval. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: GUEST,Tunesmith Date: 06 Feb 07 - 10:13 AM First, yes The Beatles did sing - or try to - in American accents, but they must have seen the error of their ways as the American influence clearly diminished over time. And, yes, I think it's rather silly for "teachers" to try to sing like some 90 year old rural character. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: GUEST,Mr. bourgeois Date: 06 Feb 07 - 06:24 PM Tunesmith, you sound like you are totally out of tune. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Joe_F Date: 06 Feb 07 - 08:27 PM Eric von Schmidt of blessed memory. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: GUEST,Tunesmith Date: 07 Feb 07 - 11:36 AM I am never out of tune! I have perfect pitch! And I won't put up with pale(!)imitations - life is too short! |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: GUEST,maire-aine Date: 07 Feb 07 - 11:44 AM Several people have already mentioned Memphis Minnie, and I'd like to add Ruth Brown, who passed recently. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: GUEST,'buked and scorned Date: 17 Nov 08 - 09:07 PM Without any doubt....Lightnin' Hopkins. Not the entire catalog, but the ones that do speak to me, speak volumes. Some haunting stuff to be found in his rambling. Sho' nuff. Thanks Lightnin' |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: GUEST,Elmore Date: 18 Nov 08 - 09:35 AM Favorite white blues artists:Dave Van Ronk,Paul Rishell, Andy Cohen. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Mr Red Date: 18 Nov 08 - 10:33 AM Ma Rainey |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Mark Ross Date: 18 Nov 08 - 11:50 AM Lonnie Johnson Blind Willie McTell Sam Chatmon Brownie McGhee & Sonny Terry Rev. Gary Davis Blind Boy Fuller Leadbelly Paul Geremia Roy Book Binder Andy Cohen Bob Suckiel Mary Flower John Hammond Dave Van Ronk Mississippi John Hurt Mance Lipscomb Spider John Koerner Eric Von Schmidt..... The list could go on and on and on and on.......... Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Silver Slug Date: 18 Nov 08 - 12:59 PM Most of my generation in the UK would never have gotten into the blues if it hadn't have been for the likes of John Mayall, Johnny Winter and other white blues artists of the time. It's thanks to them that I came to appreciate the likes of Robert Johnson, BB King, Bessie Smith and the other greats. And if they tried to sound like the people who inspired them to play the music in the first place, then so what! My personal favourite will always be Peter Green, who made BB King shiver! |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: VirginiaTam Date: 18 Nov 08 - 01:25 PM What!? No one gonna mention Odetta? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSDeROnTq64 What about this from Mahalia Jackson typically gospel but what about this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc2vVPV_ZTQ&feature=related Well maybe more jazz than blues. But thrilling. What did she do in St Louis Blues? BTW I like Billie Holiday too. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 18 Nov 08 - 01:45 PM Josh White John Hammond Mose Allison Sam Gary |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: olddude Date: 18 Nov 08 - 03:24 PM DW Ditty Amos Bobart Van Ronk Sleepy John |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Bobert Date: 18 Nov 08 - 09:17 PM Geeze??? How 'bout Mississippi Fred McDowell... Yeah, as far as I'm concerned he is where my style of blues started... Nothn' aginst Son House, Bukka White, Johnny Shines, Robert Johnson, etc, mind you but Fred McDowell took it to another level with his slashin' geetar licks and his vocals right with 'um... No one did it like this until Fred McDowell... But the best part is that he passed this sound down to R, L Burnside and Junior Kimbrough aand Jessie Hemphill and T Model Ford and these folks passed it down to Richard Johnston and Ben Prestige and John Alex Mason and these folks influenced folks like... ....ahhhhhhh, me, and Daniel "Rev Slick" Ballinger and John Lowe and a bunch of other 3rd generation folks.... But it all started with Fred McDowell... He is the root and all the rest of us are parts of the tree... BObert |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: olddude Date: 18 Nov 08 - 09:27 PM Well he would be proud of what you do bobert, along with Amos and Ditty you guys are the best and he would be honored I am sure |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Mark Ross Date: 19 Nov 08 - 11:16 AM Almost forgot, John Jackson Mark Ross |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: PoppaGator Date: 19 Nov 08 - 12:13 PM I don't have any one single favorite artist...BUT: There's a very special place in my heart for Mississippi John Hurt, both as a role-model instrumentalist and as a beautiful musical personna. The question is, is he definitively a blues artist? Not really, to my way of thinking; when I think of the blues, I'm thinking of something more intensely emotive. Then there's Bobert's favorite, Mississippi Fred, who I was fortunate enough to meet in person once, many years ago, and who certainly provided a certain kind of inspiration, although I never did come to follow very closely in his footsteps in any kind of stylistic sense. As a strictly acoustic guitar owner and player, I have a number of favorite "role models" ranging (chronologically) from Dave Van Ronk to Keb Mo. DVR also serves as one of my white-guy favorites along with Butterfield and Bloomfield, John Hammond Jr., John Mayall and many others. But there is one blues player, a Chicago-style electric blues giant, someone whose playing I could never hope, never even try, to emulate, who really captured my imagination, years ago, like nobody else: Buddy Guy. Just a couple of days ago, I wrote an appreciation of my favorite Buddy Guy recording in another thread, one on the topic of "slow blues": A Man and The Blues |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: olddude Date: 19 Nov 08 - 12:18 PM Pappagator you are right how could we forget Mississippi John Hurt the guy could make a guitar dance no question, good call |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: GUEST,Janice now in Western NY State Date: 19 Nov 08 - 12:26 PM Billie Holiday Bessie Smith Ma Rainey Victoria Spivey Rev. Gary Davis Rev. Frederick Douglass Kirkpatrick Prof. Julius Lester Blind Lemon Jefferson B.B. King Muddy Waters Little Richard W.C. Handy Leadbelly John Hurt Pink Anderson The young Bob Dylan |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Leadbelly Date: 19 Nov 08 - 02:03 PM Obviously Ford "Snooks" Eaglin is not a famous name ever among blues collectors resp. mudcatters because he is not mentioned so far. He's a lot more than a country singer. Just listen to his version of "Alberta" or "I'm a country boy". This is Leadbelly-like without Huddies great technique but a swinging guitar-playing. Or listen to "The walking blues" which remembers me of great L. Hopkins. He's a very versatile musician. Right? |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 19 Nov 08 - 02:40 PM I was never a huge fan of 'original' blues but the electric blues really blew my mind as a youngster - Eric Clapton, Jon Mayalll etc. Followed on from the Electric Folk of Steeleye Span etc. and while in later life I grew to love accoustic folk I never really trnsfered to accoustic blues. I think it may have had more to do with the electric guitar styles and while I can see the influences that the old time bluesmen have on Clapton, Henrix and co. I like the 'modernised style better. Just me of course. And I can see why people do love the old blues so much. Cheers DeG |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Wesley S Date: 19 Nov 08 - 03:05 PM My connection with the blues is this: John Mayall's current guitar player is Buddy Whittington - a neighbor of ours. His daughter is our sons babysitter. So it's almost like I'm in the band - right? |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Dave the Gnome Date: 19 Nov 08 - 03:11 PM It is indeed, Wesley, it is indeed - Glad I bumped into you. I remembered something you may be able to help with - PM on it's way:-) DeG |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: PoppaGator Date: 19 Nov 08 - 03:23 PM Leadbelly: Snooks Eaglin is indeed a great musical personality sometimes classified as a blues player, sometimes not. I think of him mainly as a proponent of New Orleans old-style R&B. He is hardly a "country" type, having been born and raised in the city of New Orleans, but he currently lives well out of town in St. Rose, LA, which is more of an "exurb" than a "suburb." I would hardly characterize Snooks' playing as "Leadbelly-like without Huddie's great technique," at least not based upon the way he's been playing for as long as I've been attending his appearances (i.e., since the erarly 70s). I realize that there are some old recordings of Snooks playing solo acoustic guitar (although not, I don't think, 12-string)~ which might invite comparison to the great Huddie ~ but in today's world, he's an electric-guitar-playing bandleader whose amazing fingerpicking technique is unlike anyone else's, and arguably superior to anyone else's. A pretty fine vocalist, too, and an extremely sly and entertaining comic stage personality. |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: Leadbelly Date: 19 Nov 08 - 05:12 PM Thanks for your contribution,PoppaGator!!! The record I own is an older one from the 60' or probably earlier where he played solo acoustic guitar. Some tracks seem to be home-made because of twittering birds from the background. Indeed, ..."he incorporates some country blues, a lot of rhythm and blues, some popular standards and even some rock'n'roll..." (from the sleeve ;by Robert Shelton). |
Subject: RE: Who is your favorite blues artist? From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 19 Nov 08 - 06:07 PM Why, ME, of course! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRpHCVGi-yo BR But seriously Folkmeisters, ya gots ta love Robert Johnson, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Paul Geremia, Ken Lyon, J. Geils, Jukebox John Hammond, the extra-freakie Dr. John, and how could anybody forget Paul Butterfield, Musselwhite, Little Walter, Blind Lemon, Spider John Koerner, Clapton, Gary Moore... BUDDY FNERKING GUY!, Junior Wells and ALL da boys from, "Chicago: The Blues Today!" Mr. Jimi Hendrix, The most Reverend Gary Davis(no Gary, yer boi won't play none of that durn Rock n' Roll just dem 'natrel Blues, just like you asked me to when we was jammin. How IS Heaven Rev? Wassat? "It's not all it's cracked up to be..." My My.) Y'all want me to check out that Blues Bar way down below? Frequented by Da Debbil hisself, Booty Sista and Mr. Steve Vai?, Sho' nuff. I BEEN DER! "You know Karate? Well I know RAZOR!" Thanks James...God Bless... And there's Mick & Keith who control the soul of Rock n' Roll, but grew up lovin' these Blues. And all of dat backed up by legions of long haired men in heels, the legitimate & illegitimate sons of the Masters all over dis here world. LAWDY LAWDY, somebody HELP me! And we MUST not forget Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Great God Amighty, Bo Diddley... ENOUGH of dis here TESTIFYIN', I musta left out thousands... I Luv all a yas... bob Got myself a car today, Yikki Yikki Yay. Now I can move on up da road and start jammin' and slammin', jus like the 'ol days...Praise God! And as we slip into a quiet evening, preparing ourselves to play for our lives before an audience of the dead, I bid each of you peaceful dreams...NOW...BEND SOME STRINGS!!!!!!!!!! BR (I'm O.K. now...) |
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