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Uilleand 29 Mar 99 - 05:05 PM
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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Mar 99 - 09:49 AM

Beautiful...Wonderful...Inspiring...Amazing

catspaw


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: Ferrara
Date: 28 Mar 99 - 11:26 AM

This thread is beautiful and truly awe-inspiring. It moves me to tears over and over again. I'm going to repeat catspaw's words: "This is the singularly most amazing thread I have encountered at the 'Cat.... I am deeply honored and humbled to share this community with you."

Night Owl, I have a cousin who was brain-damaged by a seizure at birth. The doctors told his mother there is definitely a different part of the brain that handles music. We have sung together, and he sang fluently, no struggles with the words. His favorite was "Jesus Met the Woman at the Well." I once read that sometimes people with a stuttering problem can sing their words instead of saying them. I think it would be very worth while to try this with other communication problems.

Another possible source of the kind of music you're looking for is the "What Fond Delight" tape by Phil Cooper and Margaret Nelson. It has "Roseville Fair," "Dumbarton's Drums," The Old Mama Fish and Her Little Fishies Three, Mole In the Ground, etc. It was intended to be a lullabye tape.


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Mar 99 - 12:07 PM

Ferrara: Mel Tillis sang without a stutter.

Night Owl, I will ask my sister for more info re' the brain and music. She is a music teacher and has been arming herself with info on this to justify music as an important part of elementary education with her unenlightened principal. I know she has stuff on the recent study which proves those of us who grew up with music have a certian part of our brain which is larger and/or more developed.

And, this week, I will try to get some excerpts of my brother's articles scanned in, because they deal with this from the composer's standpoint and from a metaphysical basis with good solid backup from some scientific sources.

Ditto on what Catspaw said, too! And, Ferrara.


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: Teresa
Date: 28 Mar 99 - 04:59 PM

WowWowWow! Sorry; I'm moved beyond profundity. This thread is simply miraculous! Thought I would point out that the Robin Williams movie Awakenings is somewhat loosely based on the work of Oliver Sacks. He has written many books on the way the brain works, and even though he comes at it from a neurophysiological perspective, the material is far from dry. He seems to have a very human fascination with people, and considers their "diseases" as simply part of their general humanity. I haven't read all the posts in this thread, so if I'm repeating something that was pointed out earlier, I apologize. Keep it coming--it's truly inspiring and fascinating. Cheers, Teresa


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: bill\sables
Date: 29 Mar 99 - 04:59 PM

In the local session where I play each week One 86years old gentleman John Gunning used to sing his own songs. He was dying from emfasema(Cant spell it) so a few of us decided to record his songs. Graham Pirt who sings with Cockersdale agreed to sing on the c.d. and we produced a very limited edition C.D. A few weeks later John Gunning attended the session so we presented it to him. There were tears in his eyes when he explained that he had always wanted a tape of his songs but a C.D. was beyond his wildest hopes. A few months later he was in hospital with tubes attached and his son said he didn't recognise anyone and was on the way out. I suggested he took the C.D. to the hospital. They played his music and he opened his eyes and told the nurses and other patients that these were his songs. From that time he began to improve a little and we are now expecting him to come home and if possible to have another night with us in the music session which he enjoys so much.


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: Uilleand
Date: 29 Mar 99 - 05:05 PM

Really looking forward to seeing some of those articles on the brain research by your brother katlaughing. Jonathan Goldman, author of "Healing Sounds", has done a lot of work with sound vibrational therapy. It's about bringing the parts of our body back in harmony that are dis-eased (vibrating to a non-harmonic frequency to the rest of the body and the etheric field), by projecting sound (using voice, tuning forks, etc.) into the dis-eased areas.


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: SailormomRita (inactive)
Date: 29 Mar 99 - 09:01 PM

A nice journey with you all. You get a lot of this kind of conversation and sharing of experiences in the Foster Parent chat rooms... this one is fun and inspirational. I spent the day in a classroom with 6 autistic children betweent the ages of 7 and 10. I am amazed that music is not a greater part of their day as when I work one on one with autistic kids I am always singing to and with them. Some of the reasons are obvious and I won't get into that. My sister has parented 9 children...5 natural born and 4 special needs adopted. Her kids have all grown up singing and playing. The four oldest boys sing great barbershop stuff and have beautiful voices. I have tapes of them as toddlers...harmonizing!!!! Those long cold mid-western winters provided the perfect conditions for taking the time to practice. Well, anyway just thanks it's all interesting and beautiful to hear wholehearted concern for injured folks and it warms my heart to know that people are applying music in such sweet and caring ways to the lives of others. Rita


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 29 Mar 99 - 10:54 PM

A very moving thread indeed...

My mom fought a long battle with diabetes and congestive heart failure, a battle that left her blind, unable to walk and weighing 85 pounds at the age of 66. She had been an exceptionally beautiful woman in her youth, and it was hell for her to watch the slow dissolution that was happening to her. She lived alone for many years in the house in Kentucky where I grew up, and for long after I moved to Colorado. I was her only child. One night she fell and was unable to get up for five hours. After that I didn't need to coax or threaten her to go to a care facility- she was ready.

At first she was in a Christian Home in Louisville, but I didn't think much of their concept of "Christian Care." When I received a call saying she had given up and was dying, I flew to Kentucky and brought her back with me to Colorado. Here she received excellent care, and frequent visits from her son and granddaughter. I knew she was brightening when she asked me to bring in her jewelry. I found it scattered across my daughters playroom floor, and one evening in June we brought it to her.

When we went to her room, we were told that she was at "The Senior Prom", an annual dance for the residents that featured a Big Band, "Bill Barnes and the Barnstormers."We entered the cafeteria which was decked in crepe paper and colored lights, and at first I didn't recognize my Mom, with her hair pulled back and wearing a long purple gown. She didn't see me because of the darkened room and her poor eyesight, but I walked up to her and without a word began to put the rings on her fingers one by one. As she began to laugh, I half-jokingly asked her if she'd like to dance. "I was hoping someone would ask" she said.

And we danced beneath the slowly spinning ballroom globe to " I'll Be Seeing You ", her head resting on my shoulder. And as we danced I felt a lightening of her body and her spirit, and I was amazed that she could move smoothly as if her strength had been restored. When the song ended, she leaned against me as I took her back to her wheelchair. "Thanks, Ern," she said, "I sure thought I would never dance again."

We wheeled her back to her room when the party ended, colored balloons tied to the arms of her chair." I want y'all to know,' she smiled, " if I die tomorrow, I'll die happy." In her smile I could see the beautiful young mother of my childhood.

It was 33 hours later that I received the call telling me my Mom had gone.

Does music have the power to heal? I really don't know if it can heal the body. But I know that on that night it healed my Mom's soul. And mine, too...LEJ


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 Mar 99 - 11:15 PM

maybe we should put the Mudcat book on hold and just do one on music and all of our healing stories?! Kind of like Robert Fulghum's books, as someone mentioned on the other thread. Everytime I read this thread I cry, laugh, and sit here in awe of the love, caring, and power of concern which they represent. LEJ, I wish my mom had had that kind of closure and send-off. Words just cannot express how these stories have touched my soul and heart. Gawd/Gawddess bless us all.

katl


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: Night Owl
Date: 29 Mar 99 - 11:25 PM

Lonesome EJ- I am coming out of my corner for a minute to thank-you, sincerely, for your posting. I am well aware that it was a painfully generous thing for you to share with us here, regardless of the "Precious Memory" it must be for you to hold. You have captured, in those words, the essence of "Dying is no reason to stop living"!! Your words are also helping me sort out,in my own mind, thoughts that are still in there, crashing into each other, and not ready to come out yet. THANKS!


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: Chris Nixon UK
Date: 31 Mar 99 - 02:59 PM

What a staggering thread! Only just hooked into it tonight, but it was just what I needed. Here in the UK I sometimes feel that I'm on my own using traditional music in therapeutic work with young adults with a variety of learning difficulties from autism to schizophrenia. It seems that the world of therapy likes to surround itself with professional walls (like there is only one course for music therapists here, admitting eleven students per year, all of whom have to be degree level performers for starters). You guys are like a breath of fresh air and twice as welcome. I take a variety of instruments with me,banjo, meldeon, guitar and pipes (Northumberland), backed up by percussion instruments at the various residences I go into, and we play tunes, sing choruses (and some amazing solos), talk about the songs and occasionally get into country dancing, involving residents, carers and any else in the vicinity... I've had the usual setbacks and some solid successes, working on anything from re-establishing fine motor skills, socialising, speech, and all the time with an eye to promoting self esteem and confidence. I just want to thank you for making me feel a great deal less lonely! Keep the faith,

Chris (e-mail - cwn42@yahoo.com.uk


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: MissMac
Date: 31 Mar 99 - 09:25 PM

Thanks Night Owl for starting this thread. I started my journy into healing/helping with music as a caregiver in a large carehome. First I noticed quickly that there was always a radio on and that the mood in the place and the clients responses varied depending on what was playing. That just sat at the back of my head for a long while because I was shy. The second thing I noticed was that one of my younger charges who was blind with C.P(Cerebral Palsy) and other limiting conditions hated bath time but if I sang a song any song using her name instead of the lyrics she would calm down and smile through her bath. These two observations as well as watching the company entertainer when he was on duty started me thinking that I would like to meet more that the phyisical needs of the population I worked with. Nine years later I relized that goal and now have been working as a hands on musican for a year. I find it hard to know how to document my work. L enjoyed music today just isn't enough but I don't have the words to use other than discribing actions and that is only half the picture. Maybe some of you trained Music Therapists could give a little advice to a novice???

I look forward to laughing and crying along with this thread for a while

MissMac


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: alison
Date: 31 Mar 99 - 09:30 PM

Hi,

Sitting here with tears running down my face, (thanks for sharing that LEJ).....

as a nurse I have seen this so many times.. people in comas, people who can't speak... all responding to music....... lately as a midwife I see how music calms down even the most irritable of babies.

Years ago when I worked with sick toddlers in Belfast we noticed a pattern......... every time the "Neighbours" (Aussie soap opera) theme came on.. all of the toddlers would stand up and dance in their cots......... we used to get the program twice a day at home..... and the kids had heard the theme music 4 times a day since their mothers had been pregnant with them...... therefore they associated it with mum sitting down and putting her feet up.............its great sight 20 toddlers all dancing in their cots even though some of them were very ill.

Just as a matter of interest it worked on my border collie too... I used to take him to the beach after Neighbours...... he went nuts when he heard the music....

someone asked about colour therapy before.. I have seen it done.. but never in a hospital setting... for those who don't know.. they use a small light source with different coloured light filters,with a crystal at the end, and move it about over the body, (working on the aura I think)....... the "frequency" (if that is the right word for light) is supposed to have an effect on the body. I have felt different sensations standing close beside someone who was having it done (eg hot & cold), but I know others who have become almost euphoric depending on what colour was used.

Slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: bet
Date: 31 Mar 99 - 09:39 PM

Night Owl, Penetonic songs are for you. Simple chords. I just purchased a set of cards that use 1, 2, or 3 chords for each song. Can't remeber where I got it but will get the info in the morning and send it so you. I really enjoy the use of these cards and very little prep time. bet


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: Night Owl
Date: 03 Apr 99 - 01:03 AM

Chris Nixon.....WELCOME to this thread....tried to e-mail you quickly when you first posted... mail was returned. I'm still trying to learn how to use this computor so it may have been my error. Sounds like these responses hit you the same as it did me....IMMEDIATE validation for the quiet work we do. Wondering if you feel like posting more detail about the people you work with, which songs you use the most, if you have to document your work etc,etc,etc. (Have you had any successes with your music getting through schizophrenic episodes?)....I have to be back at work at 7am this morning...but hope to be able to post again Sat eve. Trying to compile a list of the valuable resources some of you have given us. We had another Autoharp "lesson" Friday night....discovered that K. evidently has a folk music repertoire in there (hiding)! katlaughing---interested in the substance of your sister's letter to her principle and documentation she's found....I think it might be helpful to some of us (including myself)!


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: Night Owl
Date: 03 Apr 99 - 06:24 AM

Gave up trying to sleep...will be "paying the piper" later today! WARNING...the following is just ramblings....the isolation monster is lurking and I just need to connect/talk a bit....containing no advice; no information; no suggestions; no ideas on documentation etc,etc. It may be worthwhile to skip to the next posting! Having given fair warning......I can't avoid being troubled/baffled by K. (the 50 yr. old resident). Thinking, about how we first connected and how much she's been able to teach me about herself. When I was first introduced to her (a year ago), she was slumped in a chair in the living room, with a blank stare, and I was told about how much she enjoyed watching TV. I have since learned that she does LOVE old musicals on TV but not much else. She was the "quiet" one of the four residents. I now think that she was the quiet one for a variety of reasons...her medical condition..(her brain sometimes does not make a connection to her mouth &/or other parts of her body); the side-affects of her medications...(causes a drunken appearance and demeaner in walking and talking when she can, so she falls a lot); learned behavior in the institutions....(stay out of trouble); attempts to communicate get nowhere and are too frustrating....(why bother). There's probably much more that I haven't identified yet. After I got my feet wet in the job, I started turning off the TV and turning on our local Folk station. The first day I had the radio on, I noticed a small reaction in K.'s body language. Around the same time, L. had already shown interest in music. The first time I brought in my guitar, K. was having a bad day with balance and "behaviors". I brought L. and my guitar into another area of the house (another staff had been working with K.)and when I took the guitar out of its case, K. stood up right away and lurched toward myself and L. with a look in her eyes that, (having read her chart) I took to mean that myself and my guitar were about to be attacked. I decided to try to hold my ground and mentally picked a place to keep the guitar safe. K., as it turned out, only wanted to be next to the guitar,.. almost sitting on it...and me. I have since learned from her, how much determination, patience and concentration it takes for her to do anything (the look in her eyes turned out to be utter, sheer WILL and determination to MAKE her body work). Her look is the image I see when I hear things like "pushing through the handicap". She was in the midst of one of her "episodes" and could not talk....so she held her arms out in a position that made it clear to me that she knew how to hold a guitar...so I placed it in her lap between her arms... and was right, risky....but right. It was the first time I saw her smile in her eyes. In the midst of an "episode", holding the guitar, I heard her sing/shout.."morning,..land,....sisters. (Had I known then that Mudcats existed, I would have come home and checked the database!) The next day it dawned on me that she had been trying to sing "If I had a Hammer". We have, since then, identified a bunch of songs that we have in common. Anyway, today (No, yesterday) she taught me another important lesson. She had been sent home from her day program early because she was having an "episode" and had been sick as well. I was cooking in the kitchen and mumble/singing "Amen". I am, by now,used to her "lurching" toward me, which she did. She managed to do the first verse to Amen, which shocked me. I asked her where she learned the song and got no response, just continued the chorus and that was that...supper time, chores, giving her medications and bedtime. Three hours after I had asked the question, as I was making sure she was comfortable in bed for the night, she quietly said "Virginia". No other communication. K. is often typed as talking nonsense, or making no sense. She taught me tonight, to remember every unanswered question I ask her, because a week or so from now, she may be able to answer and it certainly won't be "nonsense".


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: Musicman
Date: 04 Apr 99 - 03:40 AM

hey there Night Owl, What a great success story! Keep up the good work. It can always be a surprise just what 'opens the door' to each individual, and when we find it we have to keep pushing on it so that they don't close it on us again. There is a fine line there so that we don't push too much but just enough, especially with people in these situations. Try some of the basic nursury rhymns like 'twinkle star' and others. also 'Polly Wolly Doodle', it forces a response if you leave out the second line (polly wolly doodle all the day) and leave it for them to fill in. It may take a few trys, but when they do.....capitalize on it! See what other songs that you can find that you can leave out a line for them to fill in. I have a whole bunch of songs from 1900-1950, depends on the age of the people. Songs like 'Around her neck she wore a yellow ribbon' (not the tony orlando version!) This one has an echo in the chorus where everyone shouts 'faraway!'. I was doing a group in our special care unit with some folks with Alzhiemer's disease. We would sing this song quite enthusiasticly. One day one of my main singers was not in the group but wandering about in his wheelchair. We were singing this song and when we got to the chorus where everyone echos the 'faraway', we heard Henry shout 'FARAWAY' from the room that he had wandered into about 2 doors away from the area we were singing in! We had to stop singing we were laughing so hard! You just never know what is going to catch someone's ear.

I've got some interesting articles. If you send me you're email either here or to me personally, I will scan them and sent you a copy, or a fax number if you have one.

Musicman


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: Night Owl
Date: 04 Apr 99 - 04:34 AM

Musicman...I love the way you articulate the stuff we deal with! Was unsuccessfully trying to explain to a friend the reasons I feel exhausted from doing "Tightrope walks" all day. Well said! Its constantly difficult to judge when is too much and when is necessary. At this point in time with K., I'm only using Bill Staines "Home On the Range" when I feel she's about to lock the door up tight. I was thinking last week about whether or not my pretending to forget a chord or line to a song was a valuable tool or not...it's something I do because both K. and L. enjoy laughing with me...K. also has a strong desire to be helpful. Again, I find your comments to be validating. And thanks for the giggle with your story. I'm feeling a bit silly for my long post last night....guess I was feeling aggravated and frustrated about how much there is that I don't know, and what a disservice we do from our collective ignorance about brain functioning and our dependency on drugs to cure all ills.


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: Musicman
Date: 05 Apr 99 - 04:11 AM

Don't be discouraged by ignorance. We all have the same problem. I was supervising a new MT Student one year who was just starting on guitar, learning songs and getting used to this whole idea. After about 6 weeks of first watching me, then sharing sessions with me, I had her do some on her own. One of the areas we worked in was the Palliative Care department of the Hospital I work in. There I do room visit and just 'waste' time with the patients talking and singing about their favorite music. I shoot for as much involvement as possible through song requests, singing and clapping. This one week I sent the student off on her own do visit some rooms. She went in one 4 bed room feeling totally unprepared and inadaquate, but she went in anyway. She told me after that after about 3-4 songs, she was singing 'You are my Sunshine' making a total mess of the guitar (still learning how to co-ordinate playing and singing), trying to sing the words and sort of lead the patients. Needless to say, she was feeling overwhelmed! She happen to look up from her guitar and over to one of the patients.....this person was singing along and had a wonderful smile on her face! Truly enjoying the music - FOR THE MUSIC ITSELF, NOT THE PERFORMANCE! She made a great discovery that day, The music we play and the music they hear are sometimes two very different things! It gave her a whole new perspective on what we do and are able to do as music therapists. I love those moments. We don't always need to be masterful musicians to get the 'point' across! And, I think I;ve said this before, we never know at what point we will reach someone with the music that we share. Whenever i leave a room here, I always thank them for allowing me to share some time and music with them.


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: Night Owl
Date: 06 Apr 99 - 02:05 AM

It's a long streeeeeeetch for me to think of myself as a "masterful musician". It's my passion for the music that causes me to want to share it, and push through my own musical insecurities. It's my belief in "the MUSIC is the thing" that enables me to do it. My frustration has to do with what we don't know about brain functioning. I suppose the same as Multiple Sclerosis, Cancer, Cerebral Palsy and a host of other medical conditions, I loose patience with knowing, ultimately, remedies will be found, but not yet. It just feels to me that in the subtleties of brain functioning, we may already have answers (in the music), but its not being looked at seriously enough, not been "collated" somehow, and is usually relegated to the bottom of the medical therapies list. I don't know....anyway...guess that's why I started the thread.


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Apr 99 - 03:20 AM

There is a TV programme, showing on UK BBC2 a 11.20, which may be of interest to those here who will be able to see it. I would suggest that those that can see it, video it so we can forward it to anyone interested, who cannot.

11.20 BBC 2, BBC YOUNG MUSICIANS. A programme exploring people's innate musical potential.

GOOD VIBRATIONS. No one is tone deaf, everyone is musical and even before birth, people respond to music, say the experts. In this story about an autistic boy called Steven, the healing power of music is revealed. Presented by Stephanie Hughes.

I am sorry about the short notice but I didn't see it until this morning (Tuesday 6th April). It's showing was apparently postponed from 24th March.

By the way just because people may not be posting to this thread, it does not mean that they are not following it with great interest. It is great stuff.


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: Night Owl
Date: 06 Apr 99 - 03:46 AM

Was just shutting down and caught your posting Shambles. Thanks for the information.. if the show can't be videotaped, could someone try to get a contact name and address for the producers/writers/researchers/anything for us to follow up on? THANKS!!!


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: MissMac
Date: 06 Apr 99 - 05:15 PM

Last week I worked with one client that prefers to shake the maraca usually she is keeping some sort of rythm however unique it is. Today I was having trouble keeping time with or around her and so I offered her the rythm egg she took it and seemed very interested in it. I still could not figure out her rythm pattern but could at least play mine which had her grinning. Th e substitution of the egg shaker for the maraca was for my benift but the client that I gave it to decided that she prefered it.. She lives next door to where I was working and left at the end of the session. I packed up my instruments and realized that she had taken the egg with her. I went over to her house and asked her for it she just shook her head and grinned. I looked around for it and went back to my work sight no egg, so I asked her again if she had it and she laughed at me. (house staff told me that she had it hidden) I told her that I had to head to my next site and that I would be back next week but that I would really like to use the egg before then. This time she held out the toy she was holding it in and shook it . She had held it quietly for the 5 -10 minutes that I was checking around her house. Usually if she is holding something that makes music/noise she can not keep it still. This joking behavior is new for her with me I enjoyed seeing her interaction at this level. Today she took the egg for all of a minute before tossing it on the floor. She did not want the maraca either it was a listening day for her. MissMac


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Apr 99 - 07:32 PM

I saw the programme and it was great stuff. I did tape it but of course I realised then that we have a different TV/Video format, don't we? But I do have it here if anyone wants it.

There was a info sheet and an address. BBC YOUNG MUSICIANS
PO BOX 12954
LONDON
WI2 6YG

There was also a thanks to credit to a DR B SATT and a web site for him/her www.asoundbeginning.com


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Apr 99 - 07:41 PM

A SOUND BEGINNING


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: Night Owl
Date: 07 Apr 99 - 02:39 AM

THANK YOU! Shambles, for the information. I will check out the web sites...can you briefly describe what the essence of the show was??? As in...how severe was the autism that was depicted? Also, I just tried to download the link you gave but my computor complained...will try again tomorrow. (Guess I'm asking, if you have the time, for a 'report' on the show and your reaction to it.)

Missmac....Isn't it incredible when you start seeing a personality come out!!! (I wish Chris Nixon would post again..his comment about self-esteem and confidence said a lot!...and Chris...if you're still there let us know...!)I'm seeing in K. (50 yrs old) a sense of humor coming out also more and more. She kept me busy on April Fool's Day (you guys think Max's joke was bad!!)K. convinced her van driver to tell me she had crashed into my truck. NOT FUNNY!!! But the glee in K.'s eyes was exciting. Missmac-don't get upset if every session is not exciting...(a lecture I need to hear myself)...I'm sure you already know. Curious to know what songs you find getting the most responses??Also thinking this thread is beginning to be slow to load...suggestions??


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: Banjer
Date: 07 Apr 99 - 02:47 AM

Title a new one Music Therapy II, will load faster and old one can be refered to if need be. Do keep it going, it is also therapy for many of us. It's good to see that something WE enjoy as much as we do is doing so much for others as well, (in ways that we never thought possible) Thanks Night Owl


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: Tony Burns
Date: 07 Apr 99 - 07:43 PM

FYI - I took the advice above and started Music Therapy II.


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: The Shambles
Date: 07 Apr 99 - 07:49 PM

To Music Therapy II


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 12:20 AM

refreshed for Helen


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Jul 01 - 11:27 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Jul 02 - 09:31 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Music therapy
From: GUEST,EricandtheWanderers
Date: 12 Jan 18 - 12:02 AM

I use this music hobby as therapy for myself. Collecting and performing songs is both stimulating intellectually and satisfying emotionally.


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