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BBC Folk Awards - Results (2007)

Ruth Archer 09 Feb 07 - 06:25 PM
Folkiedave 09 Feb 07 - 06:37 PM
Dave Wynn 09 Feb 07 - 07:05 PM
AlexB 10 Feb 07 - 03:28 AM
The Borchester Echo 10 Feb 07 - 04:03 AM
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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards - Results (2007)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 09 Feb 07 - 06:25 PM

Okay - I was only askin'! I've got me coat again.

How does Jarlath figure in this question, Uncle Dave?

Course, Fred Jordan himself sang loads of music hall and incorporated new songs into his repertoire all the time, which apparently made him "not traditional" in the eyes of some. Go figure.


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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards - Results (2007)
From: Folkiedave
Date: 09 Feb 07 - 06:37 PM

Jarlath came into it because I wanted to point out that the folk awards cover the UK.


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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards - Results (2007)
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 09 Feb 07 - 07:05 PM

I have had a couple of pints tonight. Please take anything I say with a pinch of salt. Just like you should with these stupid folk awards.
What are they for:- Promotion of commercialism
Do we need them :- er' No.
Who won last year :- Who gives a shit
Who will win next year :- Whoever smooth operations think they can make the most out of.
Who gets to vote :- "I can't possibly comment on that. It would mean allowing transparancy to ruin the event"
Who will never win :- people like Phil Hare and Stan Accrington and Pete Ryder and a hundred other top performers who daily, weekly and yearly (is there such a word as yearly?) perform all over the national club scene but who have too much integrity to swoon the "voters".
Which folk venues (I wanted to say clubs but clubs are a dying breed) gain from the awards :- The ones who book the most expensive artists coz they can afford them and these artists get to vote.

I am promoting an alternative this year. It's called the Best Plumber Awards. I think it's far more valid and each award has proof.
Best Bathroom :- (supported by B&Q)
Best copper pipework :- (supported by Rio Tinto metals)
Most used drainwork :- (supported by E-zy drains ltd)
Best traditional boiler (Supported by modern boilers are us). Oooo Seth Lakeman.

Listen to yourselves and worry a little.

Spot the Dog (who has run folk clubs, festivals and performed music, song and dance on the traditonal and contemporary scene for over 35 years and would tell you where and how far to stuff an award if it was offered.) Cor........ I enjoyed that little rant!!!


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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards - Results (2007)
From: AlexB
Date: 10 Feb 07 - 03:28 AM

Sorry, no, because that would mean that I would have to listen to the wretched thing again (oh, noooo!!!!).


So you are saying that a cd you heard at a friend's, which you only think was Stiffs Lovers Holymen Thieves by Tim van Eyken, was over produced and far removed from folk, yet you won't go back to double check.

I'm wondering if it wasn't Seth Lakeman's Freedom Fields album you heard. Why? Because Tim's album is almost entirely traditional, whereas you said the cd you heard had only a few trad titles. Seth also has a far more pop tinged sound.

Nothing against Seth, but I think this is more than likely the case.


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Subject: RE: BBC Folk Awards - Results (2007)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 10 Feb 07 - 04:03 AM

For the sake of accuracy, I have to point out that Jarlath Henderson is a past winner of the Young Folk Award, a competition for musicians under 20. This is entirely unconnected with the R2 Folk Awards.


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