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Songs we were made to sing in school...

Fliss 18 Jun 07 - 09:43 AM
CharlieA 18 Jun 07 - 08:30 AM
John MacKenzie 18 Jun 07 - 06:53 AM
Mr Red 18 Jun 07 - 06:39 AM
Little Hawk 17 Jun 07 - 02:12 PM
GUEST,leeneia 17 Jun 07 - 01:19 PM
Desdemona 16 Jun 07 - 05:07 PM
GUEST,leeneia 16 Jun 07 - 04:59 PM
GUEST,Anne K. 16 Jun 07 - 04:27 PM
GUEST 16 Jun 07 - 02:58 PM
GUEST 16 Jun 07 - 02:49 PM
Ron Davies 16 Jun 07 - 01:51 PM
GUEST,Jim 16 Jun 07 - 12:47 PM
GUEST,Ruth 15 Jun 07 - 02:00 PM
GUEST,jude 01 Jun 07 - 07:57 AM
GUEST,Crystal 01 Jun 07 - 06:02 AM
TRUBRIT 31 May 07 - 10:12 PM
JennieG 31 May 07 - 03:51 AM
GUEST,Chris 30 May 07 - 05:26 PM
Ebbie 29 May 07 - 07:26 PM
JennieG 29 May 07 - 05:08 AM
Joe Offer 29 May 07 - 12:30 AM
Dave'sWife 28 May 07 - 11:18 PM
Muttley 28 May 07 - 08:04 PM
RangerSteve 28 May 07 - 07:55 PM
sapper82 28 May 07 - 06:40 PM
Penny S. 28 May 07 - 03:09 PM
GUEST,buspassed 28 May 07 - 02:03 PM
Muttley 23 May 07 - 08:18 AM
Joe_F 22 May 07 - 08:18 PM
GUEST,Mike B. 22 May 07 - 06:55 PM
Rabbi-Sol 22 May 07 - 06:06 PM
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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Fliss
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 09:43 AM

Ive always loved singing right from an early age.

We sang lots of folk songs in school from all regions of the UK. I enjoyed them all especially a whacky one called The Great Meat Pie. I thought Id dreamed it, but found it on the internet some time ago.

At senior school we had hymn practice once a week and the best time was practicing the unusual carols from the Oxford Book of Carols. I love 'Quelle est cette odeur agreable'.

I taught in Croydon in the early 70s and thoroughly enjoyed singing songs with the children. I expect they now cant face 'Puff the Magic Dragon', and 'The Fox went out one chilly night'.

I also enjoyed the BBC Time and Tune programmes. I had a whole collection of the books when they were being cleared out of the cupboard at the school. Dont know where they are now. Anyone remember - 'In my fathers garden the Lortils are at play' to the tune of 'Auprès de ma Blonde'?

Guess what... Time and Tune is still going strong...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schoolradio/music/timeandtune.shtml

fliss
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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: CharlieA
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 08:30 AM

I remember a lot of the songs were good but one that I remember as being rubbish was about colours of the rainbow - cos everyone knows that rainbows are:

"Red and yellow and pink and green, purple and orange and blue.
I can sing a rainbow, sing a rainbow, sing a rainbow too"

Awful song! It was so twee too!


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 06:53 AM

Der Schwei Grenadieren, The Servant's Song, from Don Giovanni, D'ye Ken John Peel.
This was in a school about 15 miles from Glasgow!
Giok


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 Jun 07 - 06:39 AM

Killarney - offered as Folk - not quite right but what did we know at the age of 10? Not heard it since neither. Read it in a songbook once.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Jun 07 - 02:12 PM

The one that bugged me the most was "Reuben and Rachel".

Yes, leeneia, "If I Had a Hammer" does have chords. It sounded quite rousing when done by Peter, Paul, and Mary in the early sixties...but it's the kind of song that has a fairly short shelf life, and probably should not be performed by anyone except the original act.

Mike B. - A cigarette tree is a tree on which grow cigarettes ("Nature's Own" brand), fresh and ready to smoke, and best of all, free! This was apparently a hobo's dream back in the time depicted in that song. Soda water fountains? Same deal. Lemonade springs? More of the same. Is it a silly song? Yeah, but it's supposed to be whimsical. Burl Ives used to sing a lot of such whimsical songs, and they were thought of as "folksongs" at the time. There were so damn many songs about hobos back then...I don't know why people were so fascinated with that theme...but it may have partly had to do with all the people who bummed their way out west during the Dust Bowl and the Great Depression.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 17 Jun 07 - 01:19 PM

Shudder! Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse, along comes Desdemona with a tale to curdle one's blood.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Desdemona
Date: 16 Jun 07 - 05:07 PM

Are you kidding? I would have been grateful for "This Land Is Your Land!" When I was in grade school (mid '70s) we had a crazy music teacher who made us sing stuff like "One Tin Soldier" and the theme song from "The Posidon Adventure!"

I still have nightmares...

~D


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 16 Jun 07 - 04:59 PM

I was lucky. Our grade school music teacher was talented, and she selected anthologies with good music.

I think some of the dreary songs listed here were inflicted on kids by teachers who could hardly play piano and by school systems which didn't want to buy music books.

My husband, for example, still shudders at "This Land Is Your Land" and "If I had a Hammer."

Does "If I Had a Hammer" even HAVE chords?


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: GUEST,Anne K.
Date: 16 Jun 07 - 04:27 PM

Little Hawk-
Here's how we used to sing it and now my nephews do:

Jingle bells
Batman smells.
Robin laid an egg.
Batmobile
lost its wheel
And Joker got away!


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jun 07 - 02:58 PM

And then there were the hymn titles. AS teenagers, in church, when we were bored with the sermon, we would keep each othe on the verge of giggles, mentally adding "under the blankets" to the title of hymns like What a Friend........ Leave it there..... O Love that wiil not let me go..... Go Down Moses...... I want to be ready....    You get the idea.   Did any of you ever do this?


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jun 07 - 02:49 PM

Not at school, but at summer camp: I loved the one to the tune of Did you ever see a Lassie:   One tent would sing out: Did you ever see a butter fly, a butter fly, a butter fly? Did you ever see a butter fly?   Now you tell us one.          Then the wait for one of the other tentfull of kids to sing one back to us. LIke a Pillow slip. a board walk, etc.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 16 Jun 07 - 01:51 PM

I'm with Jerry on this. We sang a lot of songs in elementary school-- never thought of them as songs we were forced to sing. I really liked doing it. I liked hearing how harmonies worked in rounds--like White Coral Bells. I liked the pictures I imagined in "Over the River and Through the Woods". I liked singing foreign languages--Alouette. I liked "Some Folks Do"--Stephen Foster--and remember thinking of the contrast between that song and his life, which we also heard about.

I also think that if we're concerned about brainwashing kids through these songs, we need not be. Kids learn to be skeptical--and cynical---fast enough. After all, we sang all these songs--and we sure did start questioning everything. Of course, I'm sure cynicism comes early to anybody who watches commercials--as we sure did in the US.

I remember one song we sang around Columbus Day.

In 1492
Columbus sailed the ocean blue
For many weeks he was at sea
With sailing ships that numbered 3
CH (Yo, ho, yo, ho, yo ho my lads yo ho)

And so he steered his little band
Until at last they sighted land
Today we honor him with song
Columbus, hero, brave and strong.
CH)


We've sure learned about the downside of that.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 16 Jun 07 - 12:47 PM

I remember The Ash Grove. I didn't care for it in 1954, but love to play it now.

I taught school for 30 some odd years and some of the ones my students liked were: Hopalong Peter, Watermelon song, Barnyard Dance, Boodle-Am-Shake, Coney Island Washboard...


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: GUEST,Ruth
Date: 15 Jun 07 - 02:00 PM

I remember the little pussy song as well.
I taught it to my granchildren and to many other children that I know.
At the same time I learned that I learned this one as well;
Naughty pussy cat,
You are very fat!
You have butter on your whiskers,
Naughty Pussycat!
Scat!!!


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: GUEST,jude
Date: 01 Jun 07 - 07:57 AM

Please help - I'm looking for lyrics to 'From the Cotswolds to the Chilterns'


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: GUEST,Crystal
Date: 01 Jun 07 - 06:02 AM

We had hymn books a blue one and a green one, everyone in the class got one or the other unless you were handing them out when you could take one of each and not share! Most of the songs were (to me) highly objectional ones of the "God is great" variety, but one song was very popular, it was called Autumn Days and included the shouted line "And a win for my home team!". When we got a singing assembly on a Friday (where we just sang hymns rather than getting talked at) it was always requested.
Another rather nice song was a round called Shalom. No-one else really liked that one though.
I'm sure the hymn books were something to do with BBC schools as there was sometimes a radio program to accompany them.
Any other children of the 80's and early 90's remember them?


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 31 May 07 - 10:12 PM

I remember in primary school learning Flanders and Swan - The Bold Hippopotamus (of all things) and something called, I think, Marianina (Marianina, Marianina, come, oh come, and turn us into foam....... ?or words to that effect.......

This memory of Flanders and Swan dates both them and me.........; now I am old and gray I am so appreciative of having gone to school in both England and Scotland where singing was not considered a waste of time (The Minstrel Boy, anyone.....)

And of course there were the hymns -- religious assembly every day and Church most Sundays surely set those songs in my head. Can still sing Jerusalem without blinking -- all verses!!


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: JennieG
Date: 31 May 07 - 03:51 AM

I had forgotten "Bobby Shaftoe", thank you Chris! That was another of our not-very-Ozzie repertoire.

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: GUEST,Chris
Date: 30 May 07 - 05:26 PM

At school in the UK in the fifties I learned things like Bobbie Shaftoe, Oh Susannah and the Wild Colonial Boy. I remember a teacher in the French lessons teaching us "La Mer". Bobby Darin had just recorded it and it was very popular.

But most of all I remember learning "Shenandoah", I loved the song then and over fifty years later I have recently recorded it, singing as part of the maritime group Four 'n'Aft. There are some songs that just don't go away.

Chris


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 May 07 - 07:26 PM

In the commercial pole bean-picking yards in Oregon, where families labored to make the money for the upcoming school year, we used to sing 'Oh, my darling, you can't love one, etc, etc, etc' (Don't like it to this day). However today another verse has been added. It's called 'New River Train' and it's quite popular. Why?

Somewhere on the 'Cat I previously recounted this story:

In 1942 in first grade, I learned a song that used to surprise me with its sophistication. I didn't realize until years later that Mrs. Harrison must have taught to the older kids and I learned it by osmosis. It was a one-room country school.

The part I remember:

Once a giant came a-wandering
Late at night when the world was still
Seeking for a stool to sit on
He climbed a little green hill.

When he reached the highest part of it
Sat him down on its very peak
Little Hill cried out at once
In a faint and far away squeak:

Giant, giant, I am under you
Move or this is the last of me
But the giant answered
Thank you!
I like it here, don't you see.

This was in 1942, remember. I have no doubt that it was a protest song but I'm not sure which country it was protesting. Germany? Russia? The US?


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: JennieG
Date: 29 May 07 - 05:08 AM

We sang English folk songs - great stuff for kids in an Ozzie country town in the late 50s-early 60s.
Early one morning
D'ye ken John Peel
No John no
and probably more, much of which has escaped through the holes in my brain.

In high school I joined the choir. Now this was a co-ed high school but singing was not considered cool by the boys except for one or two hardy souls (who, I believe, still remain unmarried to this day) so the choir was pretty much girls only. We sang songs like:
The ash grove
Tritsch Tratsch Polka (tune by one of the Strauss family)
Stout Hearted Men from "New Moon" by Sigmund Romberg....I kid you not.....a choir of 14 year old girls......I can still sing it!

And in French class we sang Frere Jacques, Il etait une bergere, Au claire de la lune, but we didn't learn Alouette.

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 May 07 - 12:30 AM

Besides the Gregorian Chant, I remember two songs - Long, Long Ago and Goober Peas. "Goober Peas" was OK, but didn't really affect me. I've always loved "Long, Long Ago," and I still sing it.
And I still sing the Gregorian Chant, whenever I find a place with terrific acoustics.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 28 May 07 - 11:18 PM

I was lucky enough to have gone to public school in New york State during the 1970s when there was a mandate to teach folk songs to grade school kids. I think our school system even had that 25 record set. I remember specifically being taught the Eerie Canal song in the 4th grade {The one that goes "I've got a mule named sal.." and 'low bridge! Everybody down!) Years later, when I was an archeologist working on a site within spitting distance of the second incarnation of the Eerie Canal, I taught it to all the undergrads and we sang until we hated it. Anything to pass the time!

I wish I could remember what other songs were part of the program besides 'This Land is Your Land' but at the moment I just can't. Oh wait, we leared the Boweevil song! and... 'The Blue Tail Fly'. There was a set of songs for each grade and it went grades 4 thru 6.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Muttley
Date: 28 May 07 - 08:04 PM

Oh yes! "Where is Thumbkin" - I remember having that one inflicted upon us as well. Anf then when I had safely thought I had forgotten about it - it started cropping up on that 'Pre-schoolers Program of Choice' on TV - - - Playschool!

Finally I ended up as a serial offender as I tended to inflict it on Prep and Grade One children when I was teaching in those rooms and ran out of other inspiration!

May God have mercy on my soul

Muttley


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: RangerSteve
Date: 28 May 07 - 07:55 PM

We sang one in Kindergarten that I'm sure isn't sung anymore. To the tune of Frere Jacques

(Start with both your hands behind your back)
Where is Thumbkin, Where is Thumbkin
Here I am (bring your left hand out with thumb raised)
Here I am (right hand out, the same way)
How are you this morning? (Left thumb bows to right thumb)
Very well, I thank you (Right thumb bows back)
Run away (Left hand behind your back)
Run away (Right hand behind your back)

Repeat with "Pointer" (Second finger), "Middle finger".. we were too young to see why that was wrong, and our teacher was obviously not very worldly. Hard to bellieve we were being asked to give each other the finger and we did it happily. I don't remember going home and singing it for my parents, but I probably did. Sorry, Mom and Dad, I didn't know it was a bad thing.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: sapper82
Date: 28 May 07 - 06:40 PM

We were lucky enough to have the BBC for Schools "Singing Together" when I was in Newbiggin Colliery Junior School.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Penny S.
Date: 28 May 07 - 03:09 PM

We were not made to sing a certain French folk song. A student started us off on it (in secondary school), but the French head of department banned it. Naturally I went in search of it, and found it.

It began (excuse my French)

Il etait un petit navire, (bis)
Qui n'avait ja-ja-jamais navigue (bis)

Il entempris un longue voyage
Le long de co-co-cote de Guinea

Au bout de cinque a six semaine
Le vivres vin-vin-vinrent a manque

On tira a la courte paille
Pour savez qui-qui-qui serai mange

Le sort tomba a le plus jeune
Qui n'avait ja-ja-jamais navigue

On le manga a la sauce blanche
Avec des sal-sal-salsifis par cuit.

This is different from the version in the Digitrad. Which version she was worried about I don't know. Given that she had worked in the Resistance in France during the war, she might have felt death not suitable for joking.

Penny


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: GUEST,buspassed
Date: 28 May 07 - 02:03 PM

Used to enjoy a good sing-up in morning assembly at school, still amazed I can remember the words to many of the hymns we sang and was greatly pleased recently when Coope Boyes & Simpson and Waterson:Carthy both recorded my all time favourite 'Diadem'.

But then we were introduced to that double barrelled spectre that has haunted me for the past 50 years, 'Gilbert & Sullivan'. Not only were we supposed to dress up in frocks but cricket net practice was often cancelled [in Yorkshire!!!] to make way for rehearsals!


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Muttley
Date: 23 May 07 - 08:18 AM

Geez Bee-dubya-ell can the "Hole In the Bottom of the Sea" be any worse than "Rattlin Bog"?????

I mean, consider THAT bloody thing for a minute.

There was a flea on the feather of the bird IN the egg in the nest on the . . . . you get the picture!

How the flying F**K did a FLEA get onto a feather of a bird IN that double-damned egg in the first place?????

Have you any idea what that kind of conundrum DOES to the thought processes of a VERY literal-minded 6-year-old Asperger???

I mean - "Hole" did cause me sleepless nights - not wondering about how the frog got to the log and back to the surface and return to the log on a regular basis against all the odds of pressure at deep ocean levels;

No! MY concern was twofold - HOW did the log get into THAT particular hole and WHY wasn't the sea leaking (?Pouring) OUT through the hole some silly bugger had put there!

Then it hit me - and I've been reluctant to go near a beach since (mind you a very healthy fear of sharks doesn't help either)- that bloody log got sucked into that hole by the ocean as it WAS pouring out through the bottom and disappearing into 'God-knows-where'

Try coping with BOTH of these scenario's as a six-year-old - especially when they were two of the teacher's favourite songs!!!

Muttley

PS - you're not an Asperger as well, are you?


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Joe_F
Date: 22 May 07 - 08:18 PM

Cigarette trees grow in paradise. Cf. Oleanna, Fiddler's Green, etc., etc., a tradition going back to antiquity.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: GUEST,Mike B.
Date: 22 May 07 - 06:55 PM

"The Big Rock Candy Mountain" - a silly, nonsensical kids song with no social relevance whatsoever (right??) that we sang in elementary school music class.

To this day, I haven't figured out what a cigarette tree is.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 22 May 07 - 06:06 PM

I remember "The Bear Came Over The Mountain", he found a box of ExLax and after eating it he made another mountain.

                                                 SOL


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 22 May 07 - 05:41 PM

Most were really nice like the Ash Grove..but the one I hated and every year it came up was the keeper did a shooting go...what a wierd song..Jackie Boy Master fair ye well very well...mg


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 22 May 07 - 04:59 PM

My Love's an Arbutus, Annie Laurie, Riding on a donkey...

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Rog Peek
Date: 22 May 07 - 04:03 PM

.........and it seems after all these years that he did!......damn it!


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Rog Peek
Date: 22 May 07 - 04:01 PM

'God Save The Queen'.......damn it!


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: pitheris
Date: 22 May 07 - 03:12 PM

In the mid 1950s.
The earlyist song I remember from kindergarten:

There was a crooked man who walked a crooked mile,
He laid a crooked sixpence upon a crooked stile. . .


I remember these from elementry school:

Old Black Joe
Camptown Races
Cape Cod Girls
Reuben
America The Beautiful
Tingalayo

And holiday songs:

Over The River And Through the Woods
Angels We Have Heard On High
Oh Hanukkah


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: HouseCat
Date: 22 May 07 - 10:30 AM

LittleHawk -
Jingle bells, Batman smells
Robin laid an egg
Batmobile lost its wheel
Commissioner broke his leg.

I always found the last line a bit lame, far more interesting Batman characters to choose from.

"Don Gato" was by far the favorite among the Ist -5th grade set. I do recall singing "Age of Aquarius" in 6th grade for some kind of last day of school program. Odd, looking back on it.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: The Sandman
Date: 22 May 07 - 09:13 AM

more interesting were the songs we were not supposed to sing in school but did,for instance to the tune of Colonel Bogey,Hitler only had one ball,and the Good ship Venus to the Girl I left Behind me.
Boney was a warrior,was one we had to sing,130 years after his death,the schools still thought it was necessary to indOctrinate us with anti napoleon songs.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Scrump
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 11:50 AM

I seem to recall a song about a cook who had one eye on the pot and the other up the chimney?

That's "The Drummer and The Cook" (lyrics are in DT)


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Darowyn
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 08:54 AM

I was a fluent and avid reader by the time I started Junior School at the age of seven.
It must have been pure mischief therefore which made me persuade my classmates that there was no such thing as a "pilgrim" and that the word on the hymn sheet (a big flip chart thing on an easel at the front of the Hall) was meant to be "Penguin"
So the whole class sang:-
"There's no discouragement, will make him once relent,
His first avowed intent, to be a penguin"

At a later school, I remember a very un-PC song
"Sally Brown, she's a bright Mulatto,
Way hey Roll and go!
She drinks rum and chews tobacco
Spend my money on Sally Brown."
Cheers
Dave


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: jimlad9
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 06:19 AM

In my schooldays in Lancashire (aka Gods Own Country) we were made to sing 'Wha wouldna fecht for Chairlie' ,'Wha'l buy caller herrin' and 'Scots wha hae wi wallace bled' .We were all typical post war[just about] with britches arses hangin out and flat caps and we thought we were being prepared to learn a foreign language.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: bubblyrat
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 05:38 AM

The very idea of singing "Barnacle Bill" ,without the advice as to the appropriate course of action to be taken should a pregnancy result from Bill and the lady's amourous liaisons, is unthinkable !!
The 'three jolly fishermen' metamorphosed into the Three Jews from Jerusalem,being an account of the mis-adventures of three itinerant Semites,Isaac,Joseph & Abraham, whose disastrous decision to embark upon a coach-trip resulted in their hospitalisation.
When I was at school, the Beach Boys,Paul McCartney,David Bowie,& the Bay City Rollers hadn"t been invented, so we had to make do with such gems as 'Green grow the Rushes-O " , " Some Folks like to Do", and a rather satisfying and VERY politically -incorrect sea-song, "Jonny Come Down to Hilo ", which certainly could NOT be sung by children today without some careful editing !


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: bobad
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 08:01 PM

If you haven't heard of the Langley Schools Music Project check it out here: http://www.keyofz.com/keyofz/langley/>http://www.keyofz.com/keyofz/langley/


"The Langley Schools Music Project is a 60-voice chorus of rural school children from western Canada, untrained but captivated by melodic magic, singing tunes by the Beach Boys, Paul McCartney, David Bowie, The Bay City Rollers, and others. The students accompany themselves with the shimmering gamelan chimes of Orff percussion, and elemental rock trimmings arranged by their itinerant music teacher, Hans.Fenger."

The NPR links tell the whole story - Fascinating.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Azizi
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 07:27 PM

On second thought, I realize I was being too tough on myself.

I'd give myself an "A" for remembering just about all the words to that 2nd verse of "We Gather Together". I don't think we even sang that third verse. So maybe our teachers took that last line from the 3rd verse and made it the last line of the 2nd verse.

I'm sure that's the way it happened.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

**

Here's a song that I learned as a member of the junior high school choir:

If I eat too much jam
Mother look how young I am.
Parents dear, isn't it true,
You were that way too.

If I'm hard on my clothes
and I do not wipe my nose.
Parents dear, please recall
that at one time you were small.

Tiddley Yum
Tiddley Yum
Tiddley yum tum tum tum tum
We're the younger generation
and the future of the nation.

-snip-

I think there was at least one other verse. I remember the fun we had performing this in front of students, teachers, and parents.

Does anyone else know this song? I'm not even sure what its name is.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: GUEST,Ken Brock
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 07:15 PM

I was in 4th grade in 1961, the beginning of the US Civil War Centennial. We sang a few folk songs, including Goober Peas, Sweet Betsy from Pike (bowdlerized to make Ike her husband), The Kerry Dancer, The Keeper and The Erie Canal (aka Low Bridge - not the Weavers' song). Also a few show tunes for recital - Getting to Know You from King and I and Oklahoma! title song.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Azizi
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 07:14 PM

Gerry, that 2nd verse to "We Gather Together" just popped into my head:

The words are something like:

Besides us to guide us our God with us joining.
Ordaining maintaining His kingdom divine,
And from the beginning the fight
we were winning.
The Lord be ever praised
Oh Lord make us free.

[or something like that]

Okay...I decided to look online. Here's the words as found on
http://wilstar.com/holidays/wegather.htm

We Gather Together
We gather together to ask the Lord's blessing;
He chastens and hastens His will to make known;
The wicked oppressing now cease from distressing,
Sing praises to His name: He forgets not his own.

Beside us to guide us, our God with us joining,
Ordaining, maintaining His kingdom divine
So from the beginning the fight we were winning;
Thou, Lord, wast at our side, All glory be thine!

We all do extol thee, thou leader triumphant,
And pray that thou still our defender wilt be.
Let thy congregation escape tribulation;
Thy name be ever praised! O Lord, make us free!


-snip-

My memory wasn't too far off...If I was grading myself, I'd give me a "B".

Btw, that website also has a midi and midis go this one isn't too bad.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Azizi
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 07:02 PM

Thanks, Alec.

Learning the true meaning of LOL was almost as devastating as learning that there was no such person as Santa Claus.

:o}}

**

Gerry, I also remember that "We gather together" song. We sang that song and "A Mighty Fortress Is Our God" every year during the school Thanksgiving program. It came after the principal gave a speech about how the Pilgrims had to endure hunger during their first year in this country.

Notice that while we were in school we sang songs that mention God. Unless kids go to a religious school, they won't be singing any songs that mention God while they're in school.

Those days are over. I can see the point of discriminating against children whose families are atheist. But still I think children are missing out on some wonderful songs.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 06:33 PM

Yeah, now that you remind me, we did drop the letters out of Bingo in the manner you explained...and then go back again.


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Subject: RE: Songs we were made to sing in school...
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 06:23 PM

Concerning "Bingo", the song in the message that started this thread, did you just sing the same verse over and over? We did it as a "progressive" song, if that's the right word: the first time, we spelled out B-I-N-G-O, then the second time we didn't say the B (but left a space for it - I guess you could call it a quarter note rest, not that any of us would have known what that meant: ( ) - I - N - G - O), then ( ) - ( ) - N - G - O, until the 6th time it was

There was a farmer who had a dog
And Bingo was his name-o
( ) - ( ) - ( ) - ( ) - ( )
( ) - ( ) - ( ) - ( ) - ( )
( ) - ( ) - ( ) - ( ) - ( )
And Bingo was his name.

I never sang this at school, but on the bus on the way to day camp in the summer. If we really got into it, we'd do a few more verses, bringing the name back, one letter at a time.

I was astonished when Jerry wrote that he sang Barnacle Bill at school - the only version I've ever heard is the obscene one, and I couldn't imagine a teacher having a class sing that. I wasn't aware that the version I knew was a parody.

I don't remember a lot of songs we sang "officially" at school. There was this one:

We gather together to ask the Lord's blessing
He chastens and hastens His will to make known
The wicked oppressing
Cease them from distressing
Sing praises to His name
He forgets not His own.

There was a second verse, now forgotten. The first verse was torture for the lispers, with all those esses. I was puzzled at the time as to why the author felt obliged to point out that the Lord didn't forget His own name, but eventually I got what he meant.

The only one I remember that they made us sing that I didn't like went like this:

If I had the wings of a turtle dove
Back to one-fifty-two I would fly [this was Public School 152]
And there I would play with those students
I would play til the day that I die.


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