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BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield

jimlad9 23 Feb 07 - 05:26 AM
Keith A of Hertford 23 Feb 07 - 07:51 AM
Paco Rabanne 23 Feb 07 - 08:20 AM
GUEST,Wolly Woo 23 Feb 07 - 10:41 AM
Bunnahabhain 23 Feb 07 - 10:57 AM
Jean(eanjay) 23 Feb 07 - 01:27 PM
pdq 23 Feb 07 - 01:31 PM
McGrath of Harlow 23 Feb 07 - 02:55 PM
skipy 23 Feb 07 - 03:01 PM
Teribus 23 Feb 07 - 03:07 PM
Geoff the Duck 23 Feb 07 - 03:08 PM
skipy 23 Feb 07 - 03:10 PM
Jean(eanjay) 23 Feb 07 - 03:12 PM
McGrath of Harlow 23 Feb 07 - 03:35 PM
Scooby Doo 23 Feb 07 - 04:00 PM
Liz the Squeak 23 Feb 07 - 04:06 PM
McGrath of Harlow 23 Feb 07 - 04:11 PM
katlaughing 23 Feb 07 - 05:18 PM
GUEST,Shimrod 23 Feb 07 - 05:44 PM
GUEST,Taffy 23 Feb 07 - 06:06 PM
GUEST,colonel blink 23 Feb 07 - 06:37 PM
folk1e 23 Feb 07 - 06:47 PM
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CET 23 Feb 07 - 09:17 PM
jimlad9 24 Feb 07 - 04:43 AM
dianavan 24 Feb 07 - 05:11 AM
Strollin' Johnny 24 Feb 07 - 05:20 AM
Teribus 24 Feb 07 - 05:25 AM
Teribus 24 Feb 07 - 05:37 AM
Strollin' Johnny 24 Feb 07 - 07:46 AM
Teribus 24 Feb 07 - 08:29 AM
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Jean(eanjay) 25 Feb 07 - 05:27 AM
Keith A of Hertford 25 Feb 07 - 05:32 AM
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Subject: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: jimlad9
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 05:26 AM

I applaud the decision to send Harry Wales to Iraq. It will deflect the attention of the
Sunni/Shia madmen from thousands of British soldiers in the same way as Randy Andy acted as a missile deflector by putting his chopper between the Argentines and the Royal Navy ships, men and women during 'Atilla the Hens' adventure during the Falklands War.
She was a shrewd bitch to work it out that 269 dead brits would win her another election.

Harry's main problem may come from the Americans I fear.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 07:51 AM

There was a time when politicians would mostly have at least one son in uniform.
Now they just send other people's sons to fight.
Fair play to the RF on this.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 08:20 AM

Good luck to Harry.


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Subject: BS: Prince Harry is set up.
From: GUEST,Wolly Woo
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 10:41 AM

I consider that when Prince Harry was going out to join the Forces in Iraq then it should have been done in secret.To send him out there with as much publicity as Helen Mirren going to America is nothing short of a set up to get him killed.They have also stated what he will be working at and the vehicle he will be in.Apart from a big sign on the vehicle with "Harry is in here" and a bullseye on the side what other information would his assasins require.Publicity was the last thing that was required and his bosses should know better.That he is there anyway has already been aired on this site.
Wolly


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 10:57 AM

Good Luck to all the the troops being sent out to Iraq, and those already there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 01:27 PM

I echo what Bunnahabhain said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: pdq
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 01:31 PM

Thanks for that statement, Bunnahabhain. It is a breath of fresh air.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 02:55 PM

Good luck and a speedy return home.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: skipy
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 03:01 PM

ALL OF THE ABOVE! NOW BRING THEM HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Skipy


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Teribus
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 03:07 PM

"There's no way I'm going to put myself through Sandhurst and then sit on my arse back home while my boys are out fighting for their country." Troop Commander Wales.

Well said! All the best and a good old border saying "Safe Oot - Safe In".

I would tend to agree with Guest WW above, I think it utterly scandalous the information that has been handed out regarding his deployment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 03:08 PM

Unfortunately the announcement that a large number of British troops are soon to be pulled out of Iraq was followed by the announcement a few days later that as soon as they get home, they are going to be shipped out to Afghanistan. Another country where they are not wanted.
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: skipy
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 03:10 PM

I totally respect the young man for his quoted staement above, I do think he should go, it's his job now, but I want them all home! Things over there are only going to change for the worse!
Skipy


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 03:12 PM

I feel the same as Skipy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 03:35 PM

The names Windsor, not Wales.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 04:00 PM

He is known as Commander Wales i do believe.
Bring our men and women back alive not in body bags.

Scooby


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 04:06 PM

He'll only be Windsor when Grandmama snuffs it... until then, his father being the Prince of Wales, he's known as Wales.

I hope he comes back safe, but I also hope he does a bit more actual work out there than his uncle Andy did during his stint - Uncle Andy spent more than half his time sitting on his arse in Portland, Dorset. I know of at least one occasion where he was reported to be shooting Argentinians in the Falklands when he was in fact shooting pheasant in Dorset.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 04:11 PM

That's a title not a name.

Pheasants, peasants, easy enough to get cofused.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 05:18 PM

It is a travesty that anyone's son is being sent there. I also do not applaud his sabre-rattling. I wish them ALL safe return home, whole, intact, but I would have more respect for him if he had chosen a way of peace and stood up for it, but I know that is unrealistic and would not seem fair to the other ones over there. The whole thing stinks and they should all be brought home, now!I say "Not One More!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 05:44 PM

I wonder what REALLY happens when a Royal Prince gets sent to a war zone?


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: GUEST,Taffy
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 06:06 PM

Why is he called Wales?
He is obviously a Windsor since they changed Phillips's name from Battenberg to Mountbatten to Windsor. I suppose the punters put up with anything.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: GUEST,colonel blink
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 06:37 PM

James Hewitt will be proud of him. And should a nasty accident happen it will end the speculation.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: folk1e
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 06:47 PM

That is the problem with the "free press" they can say what they want.
The paperatzi may just have noticed that Willy was missing from his usual haunts and drawn the obvious conclusion
Now there is a concept of "responsible reporting" ...... just a thaughht!


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: folk1e
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 06:48 PM

Sorry I said Willy instead of Harry ....... was that a freuidian slip?


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: CET
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 09:17 PM

That's not sabre rattling, Kat. Prince Harry wants to be with his men as they go into danger. I would be deeply disappointed if he had said anything different. I think he has acted in an entirely honourable way, and one that makes up to some extent for his brainless escapade with the Nazi uniform.

Edmund


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: jimlad9
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 04:43 AM

Katlaughing

I agree with ALL you said 100%. Please give yourself a pat on the back from Jim


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: dianavan
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 05:11 AM

I thought the British were pulling out of Iraq.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 05:20 AM

d - "Pulling out" implies total withdrawal, and that's not the case. Some British troops are being withdrawn, a small minority, because the situation in the 'British' area seems to be relatively stable. The majority will remain. And it looks as though the ones who are withdrawn from Iraq will get packed off to Afghanistan. Even worse than Iraq.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Teribus
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 05:25 AM

"I hope he comes back safe, but I also hope he does a bit more actual work out there than his uncle Andy did during his stint - Uncle Andy spent more than half his time sitting on his arse in Portland, Dorset. I know of at least one occasion where he was reported to be shooting Argentinians in the Falklands when he was in fact shooting pheasant in Dorset." - Liz the Squeak, 23 Feb 07 - 04:06 PM

HRH Prince Andrew's Service during the Falklands War:

"...the British government were apprehensive of allowing Prince Andrew to remain on Invincible, and wished to move him to a desk job. The prospect of the son of the Queen being killed in action was a possibility, and the government wished to avoid such a circumstance. However, the Queen insisted that Prince Andrew be allowed to remain with his ship, and so he joined the Invincible as it sailed south, as a Sea King helicopter co-pilot.

Throughout the conflict Prince Andrew flew on various missions, including Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) and Anti-Surface Warfare search (ASuW), as well as acting as an Exocet missile decoy; a hitherto secret tactic which the Prince inadvertently revealed to journalists after the war. He also helped in casualty evacuation, transport and Search and Air Rescue (SAR). When the conflict ended, and Invincible returned to Portsmouth, the Queen and Prince Philip joined other families of the crew to welcome the vessel home."

It could well be that the pheasant shooting incident took place as Invincible sailed South to Ascension, i.e. before the fighting actually started. It would appear that he was not flown home on leave during the conflict.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Teribus
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 05:37 AM

"Unfortunately the announcement that a large number of British troops are soon to be pulled out of Iraq was followed by the announcement a few days later that as soon as they get home, they are going to be shipped out to Afghanistan. Another country where they are not wanted." - Geoff the Duck, 23 Feb 07 - 03:08 PM

And

"And it looks as though the ones who are withdrawn from Iraq will get packed off to Afghanistan. Even worse than Iraq." - Strollin' Johnny, 24 Feb 07 - 05:20 AM

Complete unfounded twaddle. Do either of you have any sources that back up your idiotic contentions stated above? Although of the two the Duck's is the more idiotic, as ultimately what Strollin' Johnny says will come true in about 12 to 18 months after they have left Iraq.

It would be highly unlikely that those troops withdrawn from Iraq would be immediately redeployed to Afghanistan. The troops who were designated to relieve the 1600 men in Iraq, however may well be reassigned to Afghanistan.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 07:46 AM

Don't be a dick Teribus - you know perfectly well the point I was making was to refute the inference contained in dianavan's assertion, that the UK's 'pulling out' of Iraq meant a complete withdrawal of our troops from that theatre of action.

And, whether the exact same individuals who leave Iraq are deployed to Afghanistan or not is immaterial to the point I was making - the fact is that a number of UK troops are due to leave Iraq soon, and a roughly similar number will go to Afghanistan. That's the point I was making. Period.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Teribus
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 08:29 AM

Strollin' Johnny, is this an accurate quote from your post of 24 Feb 07 - 05:20 AM:

"And it looks as though the ones who are withdrawn from Iraq will get packed off to Afghanistan."

If that ludicrous statement was immaterial to the point that you were making to dianavan, why bother mentioning it? True?


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 02:47 PM

Okay, be a dick. You're an argumentative gobshite, now fuck off.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 05:41 PM

Teribus, it is the evidence of my own eyes that I believe - I saw Andrew at a shooting party in Dorset, when he was supposed to be on board Invincible on tour of duty in the Falklands.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: GUEST,Robbie
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 09:08 PM

Well his father James Hewitt was a soldier too ! Sad that this kid is being passed off as a Royal, Old James was elbowing and sawing with Diana nine months before he arrived. Same nose, same hair, same, ears and same silly grim. Royal infidelity t it's finest.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 25 Feb 07 - 05:27 AM

Robbie - their ears are different. Not that it matters - just an observation!


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 25 Feb 07 - 05:32 AM

I do not think that there were any flights to or from the Falklands until Stanley fell.
The sea passage was about 6 weeks each way.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: GUEST,Janine
Date: 25 Feb 07 - 07:35 AM

I believe you Liz: of course they wouldn't send the third in line to the throne onto the front line. We never know what the Queen insists or even thinks. Perhaps they'll sent out a look alike: I wonder does James Hewitt have any more sons?
He's not a Commander - there's isn't such a rank in the British Army. He's a second lieutenant or corner if, like me, you can't spell it.
His name is (or should be) Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. Hence his fancy dress choice.
Troops home asap please!

Jan


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 25 Feb 07 - 09:18 AM

Commander , or in full Troop Commander is on of the many alternative titles for ranks in the Army. In the cavalry, you have troops not platoons, therefore he's a troop commander. Sapper, bombardier and various other non standard ranks come about in the same way.

I just can't believe how any mention of the Falklands has gone this long without turning into a rant about how Thatcher started it. The Hate for her must be fading, at last.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: jimlad9
Date: 25 Feb 07 - 09:24 AM

Bunnahabhain

I live in what was a coalmining area........does that answer your question?.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: jimlad9
Date: 25 Feb 07 - 09:53 AM

To take up a previous point regarding who is royal. A recent TV Documentary about who should be on the English throne concluded that the throne should support the bum of an Australian agricultural biologist living in the outback trying to develop a rice variety that could survive in the Ozzy heat.
This guy can trace his family back to the 14-15th century when one of our kings was away beating the French(no change there then!!) and his queen was having a bit on the side with one of her bodyguards an,an Archer and had his child.I am fighting the temptation to say the Archer was shafting her,or made her quiver but have lost the fight.

A point that came out of the program was that the Crown Prince should be 'Prince Jet"


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 25 Feb 07 - 10:11 AM

His name is Harold Walsh (Prince)

For the first time in several centuries here we have a royal who is not afraid to say, and now it appears, do as well, what most British people are already thinking but afraid to say - because of the silly ninny politico correct legal nonsense with which they have to live.

And good luck to him!


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: GUEST,Robbie
Date: 25 Feb 07 - 10:23 AM

So will James Hewitt's kid still be in line for the throne ? By the why, Prince Andrew wasn't on the Falklands, he was on a carrier.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: sapper82
Date: 25 Feb 07 - 10:33 AM

Jimlad, I seem to recall that it was Scargill's attempt to match Joe Gormley by manufacturing a dispute in an attempt to force out a legally elected government that caused so much misery in the coalfields.
In many former mining areas Scargills name stinks worse than Mrs Thatcher's.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Feb 07 - 12:30 PM

As far as his head bones and his hair are concernced, don't you think your prince looks like his uncle, Diana's brother?

I just think it's very funny- gossip must be very big in the UK.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: jimlad9
Date: 25 Feb 07 - 12:39 PM

Sapper82

You must be a Daily Mail reader.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: dianavan
Date: 26 Feb 07 - 03:25 AM

Following in his father's footsteps, I'd say. He looks just like James Hewitt and probably know the truth. No wonder he was in so much trouble as a teen. Do we ever see him in the company of the queen?


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Feb 07 - 03:52 AM

psssst psssst


hahahhaah


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Feb 07 - 04:23 AM

Queen and Prince Harry


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Captain Ginger
Date: 26 Feb 07 - 04:24 AM

Andrew was in about the safest place it was possible to be for a British serviceman in the South Atlantic, and was most definitely not placed 'in harm's way'. To the point where, as he once told a close friend of mine, he was bored witless and frustrated. A competent pilot and a man of some personal courage, he was keen to play a more active part, but both his designated role and the worries of his superiors precluded that. The Queen's son he may have been, but he was not able to pull rank or effect a transfer.
As for Harry in Iraq - at least he'll be in an armoured vehicle and not exposed to the same risk of roadside bombs as the poor sods in soft-skinned Landies. For all the lad's enthusiasm, though, I imagine there are senior officers now wishing to God that he'd chosen to be a shelf-stacker at Tesco as they struggle to square the circle of an operational deployment and the need for personal security with the fact of who he is and the worldwide interest in him.
(And no, he ain't Hewitt's son. Plenty of gingers among the Spencers - look at his grandpa).


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: GUEST,Robbie
Date: 26 Feb 07 - 04:59 AM

Liz Windsor doesn't want to know young Harry Hewitt. She is never around him. Even Charles is photographed more with William. All Royal males start the tax disc on the top of their head around twenty one, so that will prove it. A royal with a head of hair !
Surprised James Hewitt is still alive, didn't the knock off the Royal bodyguard that Diana was jockeying. He was an advanced motorcycle instructor and got killed off his bike on a quiet straight road a few years ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: Bagpuss
Date: 26 Feb 07 - 05:15 AM

It is worth sending Harry to Iraq, if only to get Chris Eubank's reaction to it!

"He had been driving his truck bearing a banner stating: "Blair, don't send our young prince to your catastrophic illegal war to make it look plausible." "

That could only have been written by Eubank! He has such a way with pithy slogans...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/6387231.stm?ls


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Subject: RE: BS: Harry Wales: The Human Shield
From: GUEST,Robbie
Date: 26 Feb 07 - 08:03 AM

Eubanks's has this on his windscreen as an excuse when he knocks someone else down and drives over them, he can blame it.


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