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BS: psychotherapy/counselling

Bill D 01 Mar 07 - 07:12 PM
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dianavan 01 Mar 07 - 06:09 PM
Helen 01 Mar 07 - 05:53 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 07:12 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: bobad
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 07:04 PM

One way of getting to know yourself, there are other ways, you just have to find them.


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: frogprince
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 06:58 PM

I spent some fairly extensive time in counselling, and my only regret was that I didn't get to it earlier in life. I wasn't transformed into one of lifes' big "winners" by the experience, but I made big steps toward healthy self-respect, and left a good measure of tensions behind. One small specific thing: I had been prone to quite a few really horrific nightmares. I went home from a session one night, had the most beautiful dream of my life, and since then (30 years) I've had one single real nightmare, under very stressful conditions.


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 06:22 PM

A good counsellor is one who listens, paraphrases, sympathises, empathises and helps the counsellee to solve their own problem without giving advice.


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: dianavan
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 06:09 PM

a chance to vent


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: Helen
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 05:53 PM

I have seen counsellors at four different times of my life, from late teenage to only about a year ago when I was told I was losing my job. The reasons over the years were mostly for issues relating to work.

I see good counsellors as good listeners who can help to unravel a problem, or often a set of entangled problems, help me to discover why I am in this situation, and importantly for me, help me to work out strategies for working through the problems to solutions. The good ones seem to be good at listening and asking pertinent questions. I have never heard one of them tell me what I "should" do. They have let me work out my own strategies but guided me towards better understanding of my own and other people's behaviour.

As Amos said - "what a difference in such a short time!". I've been to one counsellor who didn't know specifically about the situation I was in, i.e. I was being bullied at work by a very manipulative and nasty person, so I found it frustrating trying to talk to that counsellor, but she still provided a caring opportunity to talk about my problem.

I have never been to a psychiatrist, and psychiatry seems to be more about mental illness including prescribing medicines to try to correct or deal with the disease. A general practice doctor I was singularly unimpressed with tried to manipulate me into going to a psychiatrist, at the time that I was being bullied, by telling me that she (the psychiatrist) was a "counsellor, but she has a medical degree". No thanks!

I think that some people resist seeking help from counsellors, but if you can find a good counsellor the process can be very effective in a surprisingly short time. On the other hand, I have met some psychologists and/or counsellors who I wouldn't entrust my dog with.

Helen


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 05:39 PM

I've tried everything: Reiki massage, Homeopathy, Yoga, Psychotherapeutic Counselling ... and that thing with needles ...(?)







Acupuncture?








No, heroin ...


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: jacqui.c
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 05:33 PM

Useful tools in the right hands.


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: Hawker
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 05:31 PM

Counselling changed my daughter's life, and helped her through a really bad patch - she has 'mild' aspergers syndrome, and it helped her come to terms with her personality, and understand why others didnt understand her. I think they can be a positive thing, but often a painful one.
Cheers, Lucy


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: Schantieman
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 05:21 PM

I found counselling useful at two difficult times in my life.   Some don't though.

S


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: skipy
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 05:16 PM

Heric, maybe so, but that won't stop them trying to deactivate you!
Skipy


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 05:14 PM

Sex...


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: Jeri
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 04:50 PM

This is a subject that obviously makes some people extremely uncomfortable, which they express in various ways from trying to be funny to suspiscion. What't the worst thing that can happen to you if you just answer the guy's question?!

My first reaction word-association-wise for me was 'help'.
We used to live in more extended families and closer communities. There was a wise relative or community member who people talked to. Now, they pay someone who has paid a lot to be trained how to do it. Everybody needs a hand sometimes, and we don't all have a disinterested but trusted person around us to talk to.


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: Beer
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 04:48 PM

Good Luck.


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: Bee
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 04:44 PM

First thing I think is: good thing if practitioner is sufficiently educated in the profession. There are far too many self-styled counsellors out there who practice out of their nether parts, and may do more harm than good. This is one field where I believe, as a general rule, that the more educated the better. I wouldn't let an EMT perform heart surgery on me, I won't let a social worker diagnose my psychiatric issues.


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 04:42 PM

I think that's probable skip but you could also be a butterfly dreaming you are a man on the couch.


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: Captain Ginger
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 04:42 PM

Horses for courses. Some swear by them, some find them useless. My own view is that they are like walking sticks - some people need them, others find they get in the way.


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 04:37 PM

My first thoughts when I see those words are "I've tried them and won't bother again".


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: skipy
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 04:33 PM

If you have memories of butterflies when you where young it does not mean that you are not a replicant!
Skipy


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: Amos
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 04:33 PM

Ivor:

What are you seeking, here, actually? Your request seems very indirect and ambiguous.

Mine, most recently, was "Wow--what a difference in such a short time!".

A


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 04:31 PM

heric jumps right into the Rorschach, saving time all around. I like that, although I'm not sure of the butterfly.

What do I think of when I sse those words? Pretty much what kat said. My guess, though, is that a person who is not TOO far off the beam could do the analysis and therapy themselves IF they have a professional to keep them on course.

I don't really know though. And of course, a great many of us don't seek help until our thought processes and our lives have gotten completely skewed.

All in all, I think it is a good thing, like any other tool.


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: bobad
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 04:27 PM

Treatment for ailments of the psyche.


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 04:23 PM

Someone who wants some help...or at least recognises they may need some help.


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Subject: RE: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: GUEST, heric
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 04:14 PM

I see a butterfly


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Subject: BS: psychotherapy/counselling
From: autolycus
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 04:11 PM

I'd really appreciate it if you would set down your first thoughts when you see either of those words.






       Ivor


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