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BS: Seasickness - avoidance of

Schantieman 02 Mar 07 - 11:55 AM
Ebbie 02 Mar 07 - 11:58 AM
Scrump 02 Mar 07 - 12:01 PM
John MacKenzie 02 Mar 07 - 12:01 PM
Rapparee 02 Mar 07 - 12:03 PM
Schantieman 02 Mar 07 - 12:06 PM
Jean(eanjay) 02 Mar 07 - 12:09 PM
catspaw49 02 Mar 07 - 12:13 PM
Scoville 02 Mar 07 - 12:14 PM
Bagpuss 02 Mar 07 - 12:18 PM
Rapparee 02 Mar 07 - 12:21 PM
Schantieman 02 Mar 07 - 12:24 PM
Scrump 02 Mar 07 - 12:24 PM
Liz the Squeak 02 Mar 07 - 12:25 PM
John MacKenzie 02 Mar 07 - 12:29 PM
catspaw49 02 Mar 07 - 12:31 PM
Schantieman 02 Mar 07 - 12:37 PM
Grab 02 Mar 07 - 12:45 PM
GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River 02 Mar 07 - 12:50 PM
Schantieman 02 Mar 07 - 12:50 PM
Skivee 02 Mar 07 - 01:20 PM
McGrath of Harlow 02 Mar 07 - 01:45 PM
Blowzabella 02 Mar 07 - 02:01 PM
Dave the Gnome 02 Mar 07 - 02:10 PM
kendall 02 Mar 07 - 04:19 PM
Little Hawk 02 Mar 07 - 06:03 PM
bubblyrat 02 Mar 07 - 06:41 PM
JennyO 02 Mar 07 - 09:11 PM
Little Hawk 02 Mar 07 - 09:29 PM
lennice 02 Mar 07 - 09:51 PM
Dave Hanson 03 Mar 07 - 02:59 AM
Strollin' Johnny 03 Mar 07 - 03:24 AM
Liz the Squeak 03 Mar 07 - 03:43 AM
Gurney 03 Mar 07 - 04:05 AM
Liz the Squeak 03 Mar 07 - 04:14 AM
Mr Red 03 Mar 07 - 05:36 AM
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Subject: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Schantieman
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 11:55 AM

I get seasick.

This wouldn't be a problem, except that I love to go sailing!   When I'm not seasick it's wonderful.   When I'm the skipper I can choose where we go and avoid the bumpy bits. When I'm not - and especially when I'm on courses leading to Yachtmaster (nearly there!) it's a problem if it's more than slightly bumpy. It's better than it was, even when I don't take anything, but I can never do enough at a time (I believe it takes a couple of weeks) to get really used to the motion.

I've tried: Stugeron, Dramamine, Avamine, Hyoscine (Scopalamine) and those funny little elasticated wrist bands with a hard bit to press on a supposed pressure point on the inside of the wrist. I've also made the ultimate sacrifice and laid off the booze for a couple of weeks before trips, as a very experienced yottie friend has recommended. Some of these methods work sometimes.

(I've also tried Nelson's patent cure, made famous in song by Tom Lewis but it does detract from the sailing a little).

Anyone know of anything else I can try?


Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 11:58 AM

I'm sure it's not funny when you're going green but the thought of a shantyman who loves sailing getting seasick gave me a chuckle. Hope you find a permanent solution.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Scrump
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 12:01 PM

How about staying on land?


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 12:01 PM

Kwells? I never get seasick when I'm in my own little boat and I'm driving, my mind is occupied. Sometimes though I am sick on other boats, especially if there's a long swell running.
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 12:03 PM

Those controlled-release patches containing scopolamine -- you put them on the mastoid bone behind your ear -- work well for me. They last for about 3 days, but you have to put them on some hours BEFORE you need them.

Sort of like Viagra for seasickness, I guess...only it's a sticky patch and lasts longer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Schantieman
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 12:06 PM

Yes - I use those. I think Scopolamine is a brand name for hyoscine.

Sometimes they work. Sometimes they don't.

Kwells and Sea Legs also contain hyoscine, I think.

Nelson's cure implies that, Scrump! As I said, it doesn't have all the advantages of being at sea!

Thanks for the ideas so far - and so fast!!

S


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 12:09 PM

I just buy something over the counter for seasickness and it works for me. The trouble is I can't remember what it's called and looking at the list of things you've tried it's possibly one of those anyway.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 12:13 PM

Frog Legs give you sea legs! Have yourself at least 8 oz. of Frog Legs in the previous 8 hours to going out.

One of the mineral elements found in them is a relative of Adenoline called Parcesroh and is, like Adenoline, a powerful motion sickness preventative. The compound Adenoline is extremely expensive and available only by prescription but the naturally occurring parcesroh in Frog Legs will do the job and provide a meal and protein at the same time.

So hop on down to the grocer and then hop onto your boat!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Scoville
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 12:14 PM

My mom says salt (pretzels or potato chips) always helped her a lot. I don't know if that's enough for really serious cases, though. Is it Dramamine that's for motion sickness?


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Bagpuss
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 12:18 PM

In addition to the mediactions, ginger is good for nausea of all sorts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 12:21 PM

I tried Spaw's remedy and it worked okay, I guess. Only, my skin turned a mottled green and I eat flies and bugs now and I'm hypnotized by a light shining into my eyes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Schantieman
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 12:24 PM

Hmmm.

There may be something in that, Spaw .....

BUT

(a) (those of a nervous disposition may want to turn the sound down for a moment) frogs legs come from frogs (believe it or not) and I'm told that the frogs in question come from the far east (and I don't mean Lowestoft) where they are none too fussy about killing the frogs before removing their legs.

and

(b)What the hell are Adenoline and Parcesroh? Neither of them is a chemical element and in thirty-odd years of biochemistry I've never heard of either of them. Time for a Google I suspect.


Dunno 'bout salt - there's plenty of it outside the hull, so......

Ginger is a famous preventative, Bagpuss, but I suspect I need something stronger

Dramamine's on the list, Scoville. It does work sometimes. Other times it sends me to sleep.

Keep 'em comin' !.

S


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Scrump
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 12:24 PM

Nelson's cure implies that, Scrump!

Sorry Schantieman - not being (regular) seafarer myself I didn't pick up on that. And I meant to add a :-) :-)

(It's a Friday afternoon so I felt in a flippant mood) :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 12:25 PM

Just stick to eating oranges or drinking orange juice - apparently it tastes the same going both ways.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 12:29 PM

I was always recommended to tie a bit of string to a chunk of fatty bacon, and swallow the bacon. If I then pulled the string and got the bacon back, then repeated the operation several times it wouldn't cure the seasickness, but it would make it come up quicker, and easier!
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 12:31 PM

I dunno' what the hell Adenoline is since I pulled that straight out of thin air, BUT.....Parcesroh is horsecrap spelled backwards and reflects the entirety of my knowledge of preventing seasickness.

But since folk remedies are expected on a folk site and since many of them are horsecrap as well, I figured wtf!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Schantieman
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 12:37 PM

LOL Spaw!   :-D

Likewise Liz, Giok & Scrump!   

Lord Nelson had a certain way to cure the mal de mer
And if you pay attention, his secret I will share.
To every seasick sailor he'd give this advice for free:
"If you're feeling seasick, sit underneath a tree".

(Tom Lewis, Legend)


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Grab
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 12:45 PM

Try helming more? Having your eyes fixed on the horizon helps keep your inner ears sorted, and it gives your mind something to do too.

If you're crewing, the traditional pose with legs over the rail will at least keep you looking out at the horizon. Also if you can sit yourself somewhere around the boat's centre of balance (a few feet aft of the mast) then you'll have less up-and-down. If you're just sat in the cockpit looking at the other side of the cockpit, things ain't too good.

And going below is a definite no-no!

Graham.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 12:50 PM

Okay. Ya gotta take the bull by the flippin' horns, eh? The wayto to flippin' avoicd seasicknes is this: Drink like a flippin' fish, man! You drink and drink and drink. This is before ya go on the boat, eh? When you have flippin' reached the stage where you don't flippn' care when direction the boat is goin' in and would not know if you did then...you are ready, eh? You will not notice notice the seasickness at all. Matter of fact, you won't notice much of anything at that point. I can flippin' tesitygfy to that. I went acrost Lake Superior once like that in a flippin' storm and I can't flippin' remember it at all, but I know I made it. ..cos here I am. Cool, eh?

- Shane


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Schantieman
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 12:50 PM

Yep - know all that.

Helming sometimes helps but it's not the best place for the skipper to be except when close-quarters manoeuvring. My mind is always busy with collision avoidance, tactics to windward, eta, pilotage etc.

My favourite position is in the companionway so I can be in touch with what's going on in the cockpit, hear the VHF and keep an eye on the chart - this is indeed close to the CB. Sometimes I have to go below to plot the position but I usually get someone else to do that, and get the weather report/forecast when necessary. I also like to perch on the taffrail so I can see the whole boat and coach the helmsman when necessary, but that is quite a bouncy place.

S


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Skivee
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 01:20 PM

I recall that, as Wm. Henry Dana was starting round The Horn, he felt embarassed that he was barfing himself inside out each time he climbed the rigging. It was a pretty rough job, complicated by the violent swaying of the masts as the ship pitched. In a calmer moment, he approached an old salt and asked his advise. The sailor told him (as best I can remember)," I've been a sailor going on 30 years now, and I vomit most times I go aloft". (although in Dana's version it probably sounded more like,"Well, bucko-me-lad...I've been a shellback most o' me life, boy and man. And I ain't tipped to say that whene'er I'm loft, I give a little to the green hands on deck, just to keep 'em humble, and give me belly a wash"...or somethin' equally salty.
Shane's wisdom is nearly as profound.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 01:45 PM

Lots of throwing up shanties - "Heave away..."


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Blowzabella
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 02:01 PM

I get seasick too - have tried various remedies - Stugerone amused me ... side effects are 'sweating, nausea, vomiting' - they seem to CAUSE seasickness!

The thing that works best for me - and, I have to say it works brilliantly, is a simple lozenge called Traveleze. It was usch a corny name, I didn't expect it to work (power of advertising, eh!). But it did - marvellously. Last August, I was away for 10 days in some of the roughest weather I've ever encountered. Normally, the whole trip would have been an absolute misery for me - but I was fine and I had a BALL. You chew them and they taste nice - hubby gotthem for me from a normal chemist (Boots, I think)


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 02:10 PM

Two definitely work but may damage your chances of getting your papers

1. Valium and Vodka.

2. A long sit down on top of a tall mountain.

:D


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: kendall
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 04:19 PM

Giok, that was my Uncle Curt's cure for sore throat!

One of my daughters got car sick all the time and her doctor recommended Coca cola syrup. Not the bottled coke, just the syrup. It worked too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 06:03 PM

I would rather be dead than be seasick on a small boat going around the Horn.

That's why I stay on land as much as possible and stay off deep water.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: bubblyrat
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 06:41 PM

"What man can stand,the bile so vile ? "

    A memorably assonant line from a poem by a Royal Navy petty officer of WW2 period,and whose name I cannot recall, I admit with shame. The advice about keeping one"s horizon in view is pretty sound, in my experience.Also, I read a story once ,about a Lancaster bomber on a flight down the west coast of Africa . Towards dawn, the pilot, who had diligently kept the horizon in view for some time,was distracted by something which caused him to look back inside the aircraft.He was immediately stricken with violent vomiting & a complete loss of balance,similar to Meunieres Disease.The flight engineer had to take over & fly the rest of the mission ! ( Engineers in Lancasters were trained as pilots, as the Lancaster was a "One seat " aircraft, with no co-pilot as such ---risky,one would have thought !!! )


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: JennyO
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 09:11 PM

Boy have I got a song for you! Written from his own personal experience I believe...

LANDLUBBERS SHANTY - Bruce Watson (and a short MP3)

I'll tell you of a story, lads, that happened once to me
Heave, haul, ho, & open wide
Of the only time that I went out upon the briny sea
Heave from your stomachs lads & chunder over the side

As I went out one Sunday arvo on Port Phillip Bay
Heave, haul, ho, & open wide
The captain said, "She's blowing, lads, we'll get some waves today"
Heave from your stomachs lads & chunder over the side

My friends had all impressed on me how sailing was so easy
Heave, haul, ho, & open wide
If it's that easy, excuse me asking why I feel so queasy?
Heave from your stomachs lads & chunder over the side

While looking at the sea so green my face was getting greener
Heave, haul, ho, & open wide
Whoops! I didn't make the side, so we'll have to call the cleaner!
Heave from your stomachs lads & chunder over the side

The first mate & the Skipper said the boat was going beautiful
Heave, haul, ho, & open wide
But I grew more in need of some assistance pharmaceutical
Heave from your stomachs lads & chunder over the side

I wanted to be like those men at sea, who all go, "Arrrghh!"
Heave, haul, ho, & open wide
But when I tried to go like that it seemed to some out, "Yeuargh"
Heave from your stomachs lads & chunder over the side

The captain said, "Now heave that yard-arm mizzen to the tops'l"
Heave, haul, ho, & open wide
I said "Bollocks to your bulwarks, man, you can stick it up your
fo'c's'le!"
Heave from your stomachs lads & chunder over the side

Well, when we finally made for home, returning to terra firma
Heave, haul, ho, & open wide
I says, "The firmer it is the less terror it'll be", and went off
without a murmur
Heave from your stomachs lads & chunder over the side

The owl & the pussycat went to sea in a beautiful pea-green craft
Heave, haul, ho & open wide
But now I've had a go myself, I reckons they was daft!
Heave from your stomachs lads & chunder over the side


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 09:29 PM

LOL! That's exactly how I feel about it. I'd rather just watch a good movie about it than ever GO to sea.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: lennice
Date: 02 Mar 07 - 09:51 PM

I also love sailing and get seasick. Somebody mentioned this re scopalomine (sp?), but it applies to dramamine, the rubberband and bauble on your wrist and everything: you have to take it or put it on AT LEAST 1/2 hr, 1 hr is better, before you even look at the boat - before you bring your gear aboard or rig or ANYTHING, try even before you drive to the dock. Multiple simultaneous approaches are good - cola syrup and saltines (or just chucking down salt) and the band and a drug. Avoid sugar and anything fermented - not just booze, but yogurt, cheese, vinegar (salad dressing), etc. Flat bread or crackers rather than yeast bread. My usual: a heavily salted roast beef roll-up with greens: no tomatoes, no cheese, no mayo. Also soup made of seaweed.

Re the band: it's exact placement is crucial - we tried it several times and thought it worthless until someone showed us the EXACT spot, then it worked great. The point is to get it on a particular accupressure point. Just pressing on that point is good, but difficult while putzing with the sheets! hence the band and bead. You really need to be shown the exact spot, or find it in a good shiatsu or accupressure book. Try asking a massage therapist or chiropractor. You have to get the bead beween 2 pieces of cartlidge in order to hit the right spot - if you feel the inside of your arm, you will feel those two pieces of cartlidge going down your arm and can tell there's not much space between them.

The worst day of my life: with Dave (Laura of D.C's ex and long-time kitchen nazi of the getaway), motoring a sailboat (had to) to anchor in a spot where we did the timing/scorekeeping (what's it called?) for an all-day racing event, on a rainy, windy, cold day. While still trying to get rid of the diesel taste a cannon was shot off every 5 minutes ALL DAY just a couple of feet from my aching head. I still kept score or whatever while periodically barfing over the rail (which attractive act was immortalized on film). Someone said I was a good sport. I replied, if I screamed and hollored would you take me to shore? Of course not, so what would be the point?


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 02:59 AM

If you can't avoid seasickness, eat strawberry jam sandwiches before you sail, it tastes as good coming up as when it's going down.

eric


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 03:24 AM

I've done a lot of tall-ship sailing (mostly schooners but, latterly, in square-rig, much of the time either working aloft or in the galley!) and I've never found any fail-safe cure. Some people seem OK if they take this-or-that pill, some swear by the bands, others have old mother's remedies they use. For me, nothing works. I just chuck over the rail and get back to work - occupying the mind does seem to make things a bit better. After a couple of days at sea it usually eases until we get a real blow, then up it comes again.

I've yet to be convinced that any of pills and potions that people take are effective per se - I reckon there's a pretty large dose of faith-healing involved. What absolutely does not work is ligging around in your bunk feeling sorry for yourself!

When I had surgery on my digestive tract last year, they gave me cyclizine to prevent nausea, maybe it would work for me.....??
S:0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 03:43 AM

That's exactly how I feel about it. I'd rather just watch a good movie about it than ever GO to sea. - LH - don't go and watch the Tom Cruise version of 'War of the Worlds' then... the camera action on that was so jerky and unpredictable that Manitas got seasick in the cinema! (He didn't actually hurl but the meal we'd planned afterwards was cut suspiciously short).

I was always told the cure for seasickness was to hang over the side with a £20 note between your teeth. I'd suggest for our American readers, a $100 bill would do just as well.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Gurney
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 04:05 AM

I'm primarily an angler, and my little boat just a means of getting to where the fish are. Seasickness was the bane of my sport, but finally Dramamine fixes all that, taken well before setting out.

Also, it isn't motoring about that sickens me, because I'm looking about. It is doing things in the boat, like baiting up, watching the rod top, etc. Both points pointed out earlier. If I fish with a jig, which means I stand up and work it by feel, I get no problem, because I'm looking about.

Dramamine is far the cheapest drug available here, only cents a dose. Some other 'cures' I suspect, because I once took a proprietary brand before setting out, but the weather worsened, so I didn't go, and I got nauseous at home!

Hope you can translate this from motorboating to sailing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 04:14 AM

Ah, What is sailing? Just motorboating with a busted engine.

LTS - who hasn't had trouble at sea but will get dizzy looking up at a ceiling!


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Mr Red
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 05:36 AM

having an Horizon is the biggest help.
After that, what you eat would probably be a significant factor.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Barry Finn
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 10:33 AM

Stay out longer than a few days, after 2 or 3 days the body ajusts to the motion just about the same time it takes to find your sea legs. Lots of crackers helps some folks. If not off shore focusing of a landmark from the companionway might simmer the stomack down. I've only been sick once, in a storm & that was after pulling 2 watches & finially getting into a bunk dry only to be being called back on deck to go forward to pull the jib out of the water. Cursing those on watch (ex navy too) for flying a jib in the 1st place & 2nd for not being able to get themselves to the bow & do it themselves. Knowing I hadn't any more dry clothes I just kept cursing at them till I got sick of them & went below. They were afraid to wake me for my next watch.
Sorrry I'm not much help. I know it's gotta be an awful feeling.

Had a lobster boat (Novie hull) once & we were taking it from Gloucester to Cape Cod & it was storms all the way. There were 6 of us & Joe was sick as a dog. Out in Buzzards Bay the intake blew up & the pump clogged & the water was pouring in. Arnie was trying to jury rig the pipe & have the exust blow out thru the open cabin & I was trying to unscrew the submerged pump to unclog it & Joe tried to get up to help but fell back on the bunk saying he'd rather drown than get up again to help. That's the 1st time I really realized how bad seasickness could get. Glad it was him & not me.
Oh, we survived.

Barry


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Ebbie
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 03:09 PM

I once was traveling by ferry boat from Juneau to Sitka Alaska on a very stormy sea. The ferry was one of the little ones and it pitched and rolled unbelievably. I really admired that little boat though, it just plowed on.

Anyway at one point I was in a lounge chair on the outside deck watching the noisy waves come crashing in and sluicing down the deck. Sitting there and wondering what would be the first indication of seasickness I suddenly was reminded of what the action reminded me of: a galloping horse.

And no one gets seasick on a galloping horse. I was fine.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: terrier
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 04:31 PM

Read in a Victorian book, an account regarding seasickness begins:
"Upon becoming indifferent to the fate of your vessel......"


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Charley Noble
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 05:44 PM

Here's another contemporary sea song on the topic:

Words by Talitha Mackenzie BMI (© Talitha Music Publishing, 1980
As sung by Roll & Go
Tune: "Whup, Jamboree"

Dramamine

Em-------------------------D
Now some don't eat a thing all day,
------Em—D------Em-----------D
Some pack a bag and snack along the way;
Em---------------------------------D
Don't matter much, you can do it either way –
-------------Em---D---------Em---D------Em
You're gonna up and chuck your roast beef sand-wich!

Chorus:

Em------------------------D
Dram-a-mine! , Hup, Dram-a-mine!
Em-----D----Em-------------D
Just one pill be-fore the even-ing sail;
Em-----------D----Em----D
Dram-a-mine! Hup, Dram-a-mine!
---------Em----D---------Em--D------Em
Or you'll up and chuck your roast beef sand-wich!


Now here you see our fearless crew,
There's Brett and Nor and Eli too!
We's all standing by just to clean up after you
When you up and chuck your roast beef sandwich! (CHO)

Now our green bucket's seen its day,
Tossed its share of spunk away;
When you see it coming best look the other way
Or you'll up and chuck your roast beef sandwich! (CHO)

Now if you've got some food to stow,
Just ask our mate, he'll tell you where to go;
Use the lee rail, please, don't spew it down below
When you up and chuck your roast beef sandwich! (CHO)

And here's a link to a MP3 sample of us singing it on our recording OUTWARD BOUND: Click here and search for lyrics!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Janie
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 07:25 PM

I don't suppose this is the place to describe puking over the side of the boat at the absolute apex of the bow and (out of the corner of my eye) watching 30-40 fishermen on a party boat scramble to avoid the contents of my stomach as it blew downwind?

No?

It is the only time Dramamine has failed me.

Janie


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Janie
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 07:33 PM

Charlie--Bet you didn't know you were a bluesman--that is how the clip was classified on iTunes:^)

Janie


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Bee
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 07:45 PM

I underestand, sorta, the physical reason for people getting seasick, but can some clever person explain to me why people don't get seasick? I don't, btw.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: JennieG
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 10:30 PM

Some folks do, some folks don't. My son Stephen The Travelling Drummer sailed round the Horn again this morning; he works on a cruise ship. On his first cruise about 18 months ago, the weather coming back into Sydney was horrific - nearly everyone on the cruise was sick, one woman fell off a chair and broke her arm, all the porcelain in the shop was smashed as the display cabinets slid back and forth and eventually fell over. (we saw the CCTVG footage, it was scary) Stephen was fine. All the crew are given tablets with instructions to "take them now, don't wait until you think you might need them". I think he said he didn't take them.

Have you ever had your middle ear/balance stuff checked by a doctor?

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Amergin
Date: 03 Mar 07 - 11:55 PM

In my experience on the sea if I started thinking I'm going to be sick, I started feeling sick...but once I got myself occupied with something else, such as reading or working....then I was fine.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 03:24 AM

Yep, hard work and firmly-clenched teeth are a good remedy. :-)
I'm a serious seasickness sufferer, but I never, ever let it beat me. Often thought I'd die, but seldom did! :-)
S:0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 06:35 AM

It's a terrible feeling though; I just couldn't wait 2 to 3 days for my body to adjust to the motion and I admire anybody who can put up with that feeling that long. I avoid boats as much as I can. If I do go on one I take seasickness tablets as often as I am allowed and I don't walk about unless I absolutely have to.


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: kendall
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 07:24 AM

First you are afraid you are going to die, then you are afraid you're not.

I was at sea for 17 years (not all one trip, that was Phillip Nolan) and I got sea sick a total of three times. After my body got used to the motion, I was glad when it got rough and we were walking on the bulkheads because the rat bastard Bos'n was in his bunk!


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: bubblyrat
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 07:48 AM

My advice to anyone thinking of a Naval career, but worried about sea-sickness ,is to try and serve either in a submarine, or a large aircraft-carrier, if your chosen navy is fortunate enough to have them ( it is not an option in the Irish or Belgian fleets, for example ). Submarines,whilst a bit lively on the surface, can travel in relative tranquility at a reasonable depth (or so I have heard ) whilst large carriers ( large as in 45,000tons + , Eagle, Ark Royal, from the 1960s ) need to be in pretty severe weather indeed before the motion becomes unpleasant.I travelled 112,000 miles aboard Eagle, between 1966-69,and only felt "queasy" twice --once,off the west coast of Africa, and once ' en route' from the Arctic to Edinburgh !!
Later on, I did some trips in the sail training yacht ,HMSTY Merlin, between Portsmouth /Cherbourg/Alderney/Poole, and mustered my dish & fed the fish every time !!


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Subject: RE: BS: Seasickness - avoidance of
From: kendall
Date: 04 Mar 07 - 09:08 AM

The Bay of Biscay in a destroyer is a bitch, so I hear. Come to think of it, a mill pond in a destroyer is a bitch.


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