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Lyr Req: Okie Dokie Mama's Little Okie

GUEST,tko 10 Mar 07 - 04:26 PM
Peace 10 Mar 07 - 04:38 PM
GUEST,tko 10 Mar 07 - 05:08 PM
Peace 10 Mar 07 - 05:14 PM
Azizi 10 Mar 07 - 05:16 PM
GUEST,tko 10 Mar 07 - 05:29 PM
Peace 10 Mar 07 - 05:30 PM
Azizi 10 Mar 07 - 05:37 PM
GUEST,tko 10 Mar 07 - 06:03 PM
GUEST,Get A Clue.. 26 Aug 12 - 10:35 PM
GUEST,leeneia 26 Aug 12 - 11:47 PM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Okie dokie Mama's little Okie
From: GUEST,tko
Date: 10 Mar 07 - 04:26 PM

Dear fellow mudcat cafe residents :

One of my blog reader, woman, ask me a lyrics of ``okie dokie mama's little dokie'' for her passed husband's memorial ceremony. I tried my search at here and google for myself but i cannot find out any info about the song.

Here's her comment ::
My husband used to sing a song that had the words "Okie dokie Mama's little Okie". He passed away and we would like to have the kids and grandkids sing this at his memorial. If anyone has the words it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

I think his memorial is soon. Someone please help her for her request of whole lyrics of ``okie dokie mama's little dokie''. You can help her answering on this thread, then I will copy&paste to my blog. Or you can directly answer to her on the blog page ::
http://tko2.blogspot.com/2005/12/mudcat-cafe.html

Thank you for your attention.
-tko


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Okie dokie Mama's little Okie
From: Peace
Date: 10 Mar 07 - 04:38 PM

Try alternate spellings

Okey Dokey

Okie Dokey

etc. I am finding nothinhg yet. Does the lady recall any other lyrics?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Okie dokie Mama's little Okie
From: GUEST,tko
Date: 10 Mar 07 - 05:08 PM

Dear Peace,
Hello and thanks for your responce. I don't know the lady is who and where. It's just stand as a blog comment. On the net, I frequently find the word ''okie dokie.'' maybe it have some meaning for english speaking country, but i have no idea. sound like a fairy tunes or old folksong.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Okie dokie Mama's little Okie
From: Peace
Date: 10 Mar 07 - 05:14 PM

The term is a phrase, an older expression that means, "OK" or "I agree and I'll get right on it."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Okie dokie Mama's little Okie
From: Azizi
Date: 10 Mar 07 - 05:16 PM

I don't know the song, though I do know the phrase, Okie Dokie {Okey Dokey}.

As to what it means, in the context of the song, I think the phrase "Okey Dokey" means Ok {okay=alright}. And the second "Mama's little Okie" in that song means someone who lives in the US state of Oklahoma.

As to the meaning of Okey Dokey {the spelling I usually use}, here's one online response to that question:

"Let me begin by saying that OKEY-DOKEY is just a somewhat later cutsie form of O.K. so that an explanation for one is an explanation for the other. An explanation for O.K. has been asked and answered several times in Wordwizardland, and bogus theories abound, but the correct etymology is known. A short, sweet, and reliable explanation is given by Word Detective ( OK). 'Ask the Wordwizard' also provides a very good explanation ( OK), but I though that there was enough non-overlapping material to make my explanation still worth while.
_______________________________

I Hear America Talking by Flexner

'OK' is the most popular typical American expression. Short, slangy, and affirmative, this abbreviation is used millions of times a day in America, while foreigners around the world identify Americans by it—and use it themselves.

Contrary to some popular myths, OK does not come from the initials of abbreviation of 1) a railroad freight agent Obadiah Kelly who initialed bills of lading, 2) an Indian chief Old Keokuk who wrote his initials on treaties, 3) 'outer keel' that shipbuilders once put on some of their timbers, 4) the teachers comment 'omnis korrectes' written on perfect exam papers, 5) boxes of Orrins-Kendall crackers which were popular with Union troops during the Civil War. It also does not come from 6) an English farm word 'hoacky' meaning the last load of the harvest, 7) a Finish word 'Oikea' meaning correct, 8) A Choctaw work 'okeh' or 'hoke,' or (9, 10,11, 12, and, 13) any French, German, Norwegian, Scotch, or Cockney word or phrase. Allen Walker nailed down the origin of OK in a the 'Saturday Review of Literature' in 1941 and sealed its history in a series of articles in 'American Speech' in 1963-64. Here's the real story.

OK started out as part of a humorous fad or game of abbreviating phrases in an outrageous way ( sometimes humorously misspelled to add to the fun) among a few Boston and New York writers, journalists, and wits in the summer of 1838 ( O.K. meant 'oll korrect'; or A.R. meant 'Oll Wright': K.Y. meant 'know use; N.S.M.J. meant nuf said (a)mong jintlemen'; [N.G. no good, P.D.Q. pretty damn quick] ) and so on. O.K. was a Boston coinage and first appeared in print in the 'Boston Morning Post,' March 23, 1839. Meaning 'oll korrect,' it had moved to New York City by March 11, 1840, when a Tammany newspaper 'The New York Era advertised the forming of a new Tammany social club the Democratic O.K. Club. On March 27 the same paper printed O.K. in large letters of a heading to a piece giving indirect support to a suggestion to break up a scheduled Whig meeting—which Tammany supporters and thugs did on the 28th using the cheer O.K.! During thr rest of that presidential campaign year of 1840 'oll korrect' and O.K. became Democratic rallying cries, strongly reinforced by the fact that Democratic President and candidate for reelection, Martin Van Buren, was called 'Old Kinderhook' (as well as 'the Kinderhook Fox/ Sage/Wizard'—he was from Kinderhook, New York, near Albany.) Supporters of the Whig candidate, William Henry Harrison, countered by reminding the public that Van Buren had been Andrew Jackson's hand-picked successor and spread the story that O.K. had been Jackson's uneducated way of abbreviating 'all correct.' But 'Old Kinderhook' and Jackson's misspellings were all stories spread after the fact—O.K. is from 'all korrect,' a humorous Boston use of 1838. Before the end of 1840 it was in wide use, found in popular songs, and soon had swept the country. Incidentally, that presidential campaign was a good year for new terms: Van Buren and his O.K. lost to Harrison and his slogan 'Tippecanoe and Tyler Too.'

By the 1880s O.K. was a verb, 'to O.K.' and the lower case 'o.k.' was in use. Another president, Woodrow Wilson popularized the spelling 'okey' around 1918 by using on documents (helping to popularize the Choctaw 'okeh story), and by the early 1930s such cute forms as 'oke, okey-dokey
okie-doke, okle-dokle, [OKIE-DOKIE, okey-doke, okey-dokey, hokey-dokey, okely-dokely!] were popular. By the mid-1940s OK, without periods, was the most popular form.
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Ken G – August 10, 2003

Reply from Ken Greenwald (Fort Collins, CO - U.S.A.) "

http://www.wordwizard.com/ch_forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5774


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Okie dokie Mama's little Okie
From: GUEST,tko
Date: 10 Mar 07 - 05:29 PM

Dear Peace,Azizi:

Thanks! I understand the phrase ``Okie dokie'' just means okay. and ``Mama's little Okie'' possibly suggests Oklahoma origin song.
-tko


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Okie dokie Mama's little Okie
From: Peace
Date: 10 Mar 07 - 05:30 PM

I am finding nothing on the www.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Okie dokie Mama's little Okie
From: Azizi
Date: 10 Mar 07 - 05:37 PM

Off topic regarding the lyrics to the song {I hope you find them, tko}

I've read somwhere on the Internet {I can't find in now} that "Okey Dokey Smokey" is racially offensive to Black people. {because supposedly 'smokey' was a derogatory referent for a Black person}.

In my experience, that's a bunch of bull.

I'm African American and I say "Okey Dokey Smokey".

And presumably, most if not all of the persons who posts to the online Urban Dictionary are African Americans. Here's how that phrase is defined on that website:

"okey dokey smokey   

Okey: "The Approval" (of something)
Dokey: "The Acton" (alright {or fine} let's do it)
Smokey: "The Person" (to whomever you're talking to).

Okey Dokey Smokey is…
1.) Used to indicate that something is finished and that something else will now be done or discussed…
Okey Dokey Smokey, let's move to the next item on the agenda.
2.) Give approval for (or of) something, on an agenda or consent

It's said in an acceptable, tolerable, or satisfactory manner (informal)
It is often used (in a laid back manner) after a smart ass comment(s) of an individual asking for your approval of something.

Its used on the moment: If someone asks you,
Q: "Can I just sit down for a minute?"
A: "Okey Dokey Smokey..."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=okey+dokey+smokey

-snip-

In my opinion, Okey Dokey, Smokey is a furtherance of the rhyme okey dokey..."Smokey" rhymes with those rhymes.

While it's true that Black people have been called Smokey {think Smokey Robinson, a biography of him says his uncle gave him that nickname because he {Smokey-whatever his first name is} is so light skin- it's a joke, see?}

And when I asked my school teacher daughter about the phrase "Okey Dokey Smokey", she said that she thought it came from Smokey The Bear. And that's what she told her kindergarten students.
I thought this was cute. But then again, I think much of what my daughter does is cute...

This is further proof that you can't believe everything you read on the Internet {meaning that post that said that Okey Dokey, Smokey" was racist}.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Okie dokie Mama's little Okie
From: GUEST,tko
Date: 10 Mar 07 - 06:03 PM

>Peace
Thank you very much for your effort. I also cannot find out so far on the net.

>Azizi
I enjoy reading your Off topic. especially Smokey Robinson's. I found the song :: Five Delights, ``okey dokey mama'', maybe doo-wap song, and it's title is simillar to presley's ``that's alright mama''.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Okie Dokie Mama's Little Okie
From: GUEST,Get A Clue..
Date: 26 Aug 12 - 10:35 PM

Just because the true origin of the phrase is not on the Internet doesn't mean you've done full research. My roommate from South Carolina (African American) knew very well that Okey dokey smokie was a racial slur..Who/what do you think the term "smokey" refers to?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Okie Dokie Mama's Little Okie
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 26 Aug 12 - 11:47 PM

somebody who smokes?
is a firefighter?
came from the Smokey Mountains?
peddles cigarettes?

Could be a lot of things.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Okie Dokie Mama's Little Okie
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Aug 12 - 12:07 PM

Steer clear of rhyming words added to a phrase- you are committing a politically incorrect act.

Sheesch!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Okie Dokie Mama's Little Okie
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 27 Aug 12 - 03:45 PM

Wish I could discuss this further, Q, but must run.

See ya later, alligator.


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