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Songs about Whitby??!

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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: Tyke
Date: 02 Aug 09 - 04:04 AM

What relavance is there in you posting negative comments as a Guest? Don't bother replying you will be ignord!


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Aug 09 - 10:41 AM

I was not been negative or rude, simply that the redecoration was mentioned 2 years ago, are they still on with it?
    Please note that anonymous posting is no longer allowed at Mudcat. Use a consistent name [in the 'from' box] when you post, or your messages risk being deleted.
    Thanks.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: Darlodave
Date: 03 Aug 09 - 01:45 AM

Hi Collier Lad
Re cd 'Behind Closed Doors' looked at the link as stated, maybe I've too much hot air on my brain at the moment as I'm in rather hot humid climes as I write, but I see nowhere where to contact so to obtain a copy. Will be home in UK for Whitby, can I get a copy at The Station Inn or somewhere else when I visit. Note that it's for a very good charity, it's a country I would to visit. look f'wd to some info please. Also can you advise where all the Mudcatters will be hanging out.


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: collierlad
Date: 03 Aug 09 - 04:23 PM

Hi Darlodave
If you click on the mail order link & fill out and submit the form I will send you one by mail order. Otherwise I will have copies with me at Whitby Folk Week, but will not be there untill back end of the week. You can always find me & other Mudcatters in the front singeraround room in the Station Inn.


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: Darlodave
Date: 04 Aug 09 - 01:31 AM

Hi Collier Lad
I'll make a point of being there also towards end of the week and I'll look into the Station for a copy and a song or two.
Many Thanks


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: Amos
Date: 04 Aug 09 - 01:43 AM

Two songs have been recently written about Whitby -- one about the Station Inn and one about the day-trip boat Whitby's fair Esk Belle.

I can provide them with permission of the people who comissioned them.


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: Steve Lane
Date: 04 Aug 09 - 05:13 PM

I suppose i should mention my song about the Whitby to Scarborough Line for the record. It's more about Ravenscar but hey that's close enough for folk isn't it?
Hear it on myspace.com/stevelanefolksinger


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST,Jim Kay
Date: 10 Oct 10 - 08:12 AM

I used to sing a song called "The Whitby to Scarborough Line" more than 35 years ago. I can only remember the 1st verse now and would love to get the rest of the lyrics. It was in a great song book I had with songs of the Railways and Navigators. Included was a song about the King's Cross Strike of the 50's. Wish I could find it again. Anyway, here is what I recall as the 1st verse oof Whitby to Scarborough Line:
                      If you go from Hawsker to Robin Hood's Bay
                      You will find there a railway line hidden away
                      Lost and concealed by the ravage of time --
                      They call it the Whitby to Scarborough Line.
The song also refers to Ravenscar Rock, Filingdales and other places along it's course.
Any help in tracking down the Lyrics would be appreciated.
I never forgot the tune but one verse is not really enough for a performance.
All the Best,
Jim Kay.


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: Ian Hendrie
Date: 10 Oct 10 - 08:22 AM

Hi Jim,
I have the book you refer to with words to 'The Whitby and Scarborough Line'. I'll just go look for them and post them asap. Do you also want the King's Cross Strike song if it's in there?
Ian


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie
Date: 10 Oct 10 - 11:20 AM

Ah well...

If Filingdales and Ravenscar count, then don't forget the Lyke Wake Dirge.

Mitch wrote a song about having a good time at Whitby called "Old Plough Yard"


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: Amos
Date: 10 Oct 10 - 11:28 AM

If you come down to Whitby's town
Just looking for a frolic
You might drop by a little pub
Where no-one's melancholic!
Not just a common tap and spile,
All sorts get welcomed in,
To lift a glass and sing a tune
At Whitby's Station Inn!


CHO:And oh, we have a jolly time
When the regÕlar crowd comes through,
When Derek sets the singing 'round
And Colin serves the brew
And Andrew fills the mugs again
We make a loverly din
A drinking Sunday night away
At the dear old Station Inn


The crowd comes in to have a pint,
Meandering to the door
But the place is looking spiffy now
So they stay for three or four!
The colour scheme's inviting
The place done up like new
So they often spend the whole night long
A-sipping Andrew's brew.

And oh, we have a jolly time
When the regÕlar crowd comes through,
When Derek sets the singing 'round
And Colin serves the brew
And Andrew fills the mugs again
We make a loverly din
A drinking Sunday night away
At the dear old Station Inn


There's Handsome Jim, when he comes in,
The gals all start to blush
And Emma grabs the largest glass
And fill it with a rush.
Her eyes are bright, her curves are right
Her waistline is the thinnest.
But if you make a bit too free
She'll douse your head with Guinness!

But oh, we have a jolly time
When the regÕlar crowd comes through,
When Derek sets the singing 'round
And Colin serves the brew
And Andrew fills the mugs again
We make a loverly din
A drinking Sunday night away
At the dear old Station Inn



So raise your glass, and health to her,
And honest barkeep Pat,
They keep the tavern running right,
And thanks to them for that!
Now bring a round back to the Snug,
And let the songs begin
Old Whitby's never seen the like
Of our dear old Station Inn!

But oh, we have a jolly time
When the regÕlar crowd comes through,
When Derek sets the singing 'round
And Colin serves the brew
And Andrew fills the mugs again
We make a loverly din
A drinking Sunday night away
At the dear old Station Inn


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: Commander Crabbe
Date: 10 Oct 10 - 08:26 PM

From another thread

THE WHITBY TO SCARBOROUGH LINE

Words & Music by Christopher Rowe

If you go from Hawsker to Robin Hood's Bay,
You will find there's a railway line hidden away;
Ignored and concealed by the grasses of time,
And they call it the Whitby to Scarborough line.

There's a crowd at the platform at Robin Hood's Bay,
The Victorian east coast is off work today;
And they're waving the flags and they're pouring the wine,
To open the Whitby to Scarborough line.

For nearly a century steam engines reigned,
Till the interest of tourists and businessmen waned,
No steel from Teesside and no coal from the Tyne,
Hard times hit the Whitby to Scarborough line.

A North-Eastern railway sign rusts in the sun,
Giving warning of the dangers that trespassers run,
But gorse takes no notice of a forty-bob fine,
And weeds choke the Whitby to Scarborough line.

The viaduct at Scalby, the Staintondale Clock,
The damp, desolate tunnel through Ravenscar rock,
The rest rooms at Fyling where lights never shine,
Now radar guards the Whitby to Scarborough line.

There's a ghost train in the distance and it's garlanded black,
There is dust on the signal and rust on the track;
No oil in the lantern, no paint on the sign,
And the wind rules the Whitby to Scarborough line.

Notes [by Christopher Rowe?]
       "The Whitby to Scarborough railway line opened in 1885 and closed in 1965. Some who saw the opening as children, (when they were given the day off school), also saw the closing when the last train was garlanded in black. In its heyday it was popular with holidaymakers and invaluable to industry further up the coast. But as other communications improved, so its popularity declined, and today it is derelict and overgrown. The area is now better known for the huge radar globes at RAF Fylingdales than for its peaceful scenic railway line.

CC


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST,Jim Kay
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 07:27 AM

Many thanks to those who supplied the lyrics to "The Whitby to Scarborough Line" You made my year.
Jim Kay


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Feb 14 - 09:41 AM


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST,David Nuttall , Wakefield.
Date: 03 Feb 14 - 05:29 PM

I wrote this ' poem ' ( which I later set to music ) a few years ago following a true incident in the Black Horse pub in Whitby . My friend and I had sung the Greenland Whale in the crowded pub when an elderly sailor beckoned me across to relate this story which he maintained was true. I am hardly holding this up for its literary worth !! but I hope others may find it interesting and a link with the past and with Whitby . The pencil drawings of the fishermen are still very much in evidence on the wall of this lovely pub which is very welcoming for informal songs and tunes , particularly during Whitby Folk Week and The Moor And Coast Festival.   


                  WHITBY'S LAST WHALE


The pencil portraits on the walls
Of sailors here or drowned
Fail to convey real history
In the Black Horse , Whitby Town .
Their old ways may be passed now
But their stories still remain ......
The catching of Whitby's last whale
Brought tears, remorse and pain.


The weather-beaten fisherman
Sipped ale in smoke-filled bar .
His tears welled up and trickled down,
Made me realise how far
Reality can overcome
Made-up tales beneath the mast !
We'd sung Greenland Whale in harmony
But HIS whale song....unsurpassed !


And when our song was finished
He beckoned me across..
Relating in slow , measured way
His sense of hurt and loss.
I filled his glass.He wiped his eye.
From his mouth there trickled truth.
No sentimental claptrap here...
No imaginings of youth !


He told me how in recent times
Whilst hauling in their net ,
Twelve miles from Whitby Town his mates
And him were shocked, upset .
They'd dragged a whale exhausted ,
Reluctant from the tide,
Tried quickly to revive it
For such slaughter they'd deride !


Cracked voice choked with emotion
As salt tears filled his eye !
He knew that this great creature's death
They could never justify.
For catching indiscriminately
Had always been the way
But on that craft,that time, that place...
A price the whale would pay.


Tough men , openly weeping
Helped it slip back to the deep..
No spark of life, flourish of tail,
No breath...perpetual sleep !
But the memory had not faded
For him to the present day ...
Acknowledging it had been hard
He'd been glad to have his say.

Now when I hear a whaling song...
Can't think of sharp harpoon.
For of his tale - my vision's strong....
I see Black Horse salt - and soon
I then recall what him befell,
The look in that whale's eyes ...
Its NOT the manner of the kill
But the WHALE and its demise .


The pencil portraits on the wall
Of sailors lost or drowned
Fail to convey real history
In the Black Horse,Whitby town .
Their old ways may be passed now
But their stories will remain....
The catching of Whitby's last whale
Brought tears, remorse and pain .

DAVID NUTTALL


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: Paul Davenport
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 06:19 AM

There are also two songs on the Yorkshire Garland website of recent origin that pertain to Whitby. One is Wendy Arrowsmith's song about pulling the lifeboat, 'The Visitor' and the other's my own 'Freeman's Waistcoat'.
http://www.yorkshirefolksong.net


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 08:07 AM

How about Old Whitby harbour written by Stan Graham and sung by Martin Windham Reed amongst others.


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 04 Feb 14 - 12:13 PM

Hi Paul,
Gus Grenfell's 'Whitby Bells' is also on the website, sung by Hilary Simpson.


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST,whitby
Date: 20 Mar 14 - 02:40 PM

mrs sally supner windmill primary school by sally chamber choir for singing and other with Elizabeth AND Beeston can join go round the ring aswell ching a ring ching chaw zzzzzzzzzzzz loove


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: Hrothgar
Date: 20 Mar 14 - 09:05 PM

The Spinners had a song which I think was called "The Whitby Smuggler's Song". Might have to find the LP. I suspect I can remember the words. Can't find it on the web.


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST,guest Wail
Date: 21 Mar 14 - 09:56 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9k0HmPElec


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST,Wail again
Date: 21 Mar 14 - 09:58 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9k0HmPElec


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Mar 14 - 10:00 AM

Whitby fisher lad by steve tilston?
Not a really trad o e though!


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 02 Dec 15 - 05:07 PM

John Connolly (AKA Anon!)wrote a couple about Malcolm Storey including "Bold Admiral Storey" - but that probably has nothing to dowith Whitby.

Oh, and Stanley Accrington also mentions Whitby and said Mr Storey in lots of his instantly written (and just as instantly fogotten) songs.


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Subject: ADD: Whitby Harbour (Stan Graham)
From: GUEST,Stan Graham
Date: 25 Jan 16 - 01:36 PM

I've had lots of requests for the lyrics over the years, so here they are, enjoy. I play this in DADGAD, but Martyn Wyndham-Read plays it in Dropped D, others play it in standard tuning.


Whitby Harbour

WHITBY HARBOUR
(Stan Graham)

1.
Blow the north winds across old Whitby harbour,
Tether the boats from the oncoming storm,
Bright is the light that shines on the water,
Coal from the Tyne keeping families warm.

2.
Ghosts of old sailors in windswept old whalers,
Finding safe harbour from Greenland's cold shores,
Young boys are racing to pull down the ribbons,
Then head for the Straights to go whaling once more.

3.
Sailor beware the red skies of morning,
Unless you are willing a high price you'll pay,
Strong arms are waiting and all for a shilling,
King George's navy will take you away.

4.
An old Whitby Cat she glides through the darkness,
3000 gallons lie deep in her hold,
Bound for the market and houses of Church Street,
Gin, rum and tea to be traded for gold.

5.
Blow the north wind across old Whitby Harbour,
Captain James Cook has weathered the storms,
Young men of Whitby sailed on the Endeavour,
South to Australia and round the Cape Horn.

Chorus
Build me a ship to sail across oceans, give me fair wind and I'll answer the call, further than any man ever before me south to Australia and round the Cape Horn


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 01:07 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9k0HmPElec written by richard grainger


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: BobKnight
Date: 26 Jan 16 - 08:59 PM

I've written a song about Whitby, It's called, "The Slender Dark-Eyed Beauty That I Met In Whitby Town."

You can hear it here - www.youtube.com/bobknightfolk

I'm delighted to say that I've been booked for Whitby Festival this year 2016. Maybe see some of you there. :)


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST,Greum
Date: 21 May 23 - 03:01 PM

There's a song called Whitby Bells but not Gus Gomersal's. I have the song sung by Graham and Sheila Nelmes.

I am struggling to catch all the words but the first goes:

By Henry the Eighth in 1539
Every abbey in the land was plundered
Lead, glass and gold they were taken away
And the anger of God rang out on the day
For his churches all were spoiled
And the heavens they did thunder.

The chorus is

And how the flowing tide did make those sweet bells chime.


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST,rjm
Date: 21 May 23 - 06:05 PM

Above
was the composer Dave Totterdell


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST,Greum
Date: 22 May 23 - 02:27 AM

Dunno. I'll ask Graham. I can't find this song anywhere on the interwebz.


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 22 May 23 - 02:55 AM

Cot.711                Dave Totterdell        Whitby Bells ?(LP, Album)


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 22 May 23 - 02:57 AM

I remember Dave well, he was a singer, concertina player and song writer. I think he died about 10 years ago


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 22 May 23 - 02:59 AM

THERE IS A N OBIT HERE ON MUDCAT
2011 Obit: RIP Dave Totterdell


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: Greum
Date: 22 May 23 - 03:39 AM

Thanks, yes. Given the name I found that thread and I also found mention of his 1977 album and song on Discogs, but no recordings or lyrics.


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: Greum
Date: 22 May 23 - 12:51 PM

Okay, I have transcribed the lyrics. Hope they're reasonably accurate!

By Henry the Eighth in 1539

Every abbey in the land was plundered
Lead, glass and gold they were taken away
And the anger of God rang out on the day
For his churches all were spoiled
And the heavens they did thunder.

Chorus:
And how the flowing tide did make those sweet bells chime.

Whitby Abbey tower had five strong bells
They were loaded onto a boat
And the townsfolk watched as the ship left shore
With sadness in their hearts for they never thought
The bells would leave the town
On a ship afloat.

She sailed out south down to Black Nab Bay
The sails all a-swell in the gale
But the seas fell calm and the winds dropped low
And the sunlight place started to show
At the Abbey ruins tower door
And the sky it grew pale.

Now the seas fell wind bound as still as death
And the ship rolled onto its side
And she sank in sight of the folk on shore
Down through the waves to the salt sea floor
And the Abbey ruins tower door
And the plunderers they died.

Now the bells lie still on the salt sea bed
Untouched by flying time
But their music peals through the sunlit seas
Down through eternal centuries
At night on Whitby shore
You can hear their chimes.


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: Greum
Date: 23 May 23 - 07:58 AM

If anyone is interested, this is indeed by Dave Totterdell.


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 24 May 23 - 10:49 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9k0HmPElec
whitby whaler written by Richard Grainger


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 27 May 23 - 07:05 PM

THE TAILOR’S BRITCHES sung by John Greaves on The Yorkshire Garland. http://yorkshirefolksong.net/song.cfm?songID=49


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 28 May 23 - 08:59 AM

Jack Beeforth, a retired farmer of Wragby Farm and the adjoining Cook House Farm, interviewed by Dave Hillery in 1974, recalled going to hire staff at the hiring fair in Whitby. And he also had a story about the hiring fair, published by Roy Palmer in his book, The Sound of History (1988).

A lad goes to t'hirings and meets a farmer who says, 'Ista for hiring?' 'Aye', says t’lad. 'What can you deea?' says t'farmer. 'Oh, ommost onnything on a farm', says t'lad. 'Well thoo looks a likely lad', says t'farmer. 'Wheer were you last?’ ‘Wi' him over theer', says t'lad. 'Can you get yourself a character?' says t'farmer 'and then I'll hire you'. So the lad goes over to t'feller he were wi', and asks him for a character. 'Nay, lad, you deeant want to go wi' him. He'll hunger yer and work yer and you'll have a right bad time'. So the lad goes back to t'farmer. 'Well, have you got a character?' says he. 'Why,' says t'lad, 'I haven't got one for me, but he's just given me a right one for thee'.

As Roy Palmer wrote, hiring was a very speculative and hazardous enterprise for both parties.

The Whitby Farmer by Henry Peacock
Tune; The Man in the Moon - see The Full English on youtube

A farmer he goes to the Martinmas Fair
To see the farm workers who all gather there.
Lad, ista for hiring? Hasta got a strong arm?
Says the lad, I can do onnything on a farm.

Chorus;
Now you may be a farmer or follow the plough,
But in this rough world we must rub along now.
Wherever you go and whatever you do,
In all of your dealings be honest and true.

Well thoo looks a good lad. Wheer were you last year?
Says the lad, Wi’ t’feller as stands over theer.
Now if he will put in a good word for thee,
Then I’ll hire thee this year – tha can come wham wi’ me.

Chorus

So the lad he steps over to get a good word.
Nay, says his owd master, Lad, have yer not heard?
You deean’t want to go wi’ him and mek a new home.
He’ll hunger thee and work thee reet dahn to the bone.

Chorus

So the lad he goes back to the farmer again.
Have you got a good word, lad? the farmer says then.
Nay, says the lad, I’ve not got one for me,
But he’s told me to never go working for thee!

Chorus


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Subject: RE: Songs about Whitby??!
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 28 May 23 - 11:40 AM

Link to THE WHITBY LAD posted in Mudcat thread Any June Songs     /mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=169898&messages=150#whitbylad:~:text=Subject%3A%20RE%3A%20Any%20June%20Songs%3F%0AFrom%3A


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