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29 Mar 07 - 04:02 AM (#2010359) Subject: Hal and Toe From: selby We would like to teach some kids Hal and Toe or The Cornish May Carol we have the Watersons singing it but Mike Watersons rendering is not good for kids to listen to and then follow. I have heard Chris Wood do it brilliantly. Anyone know of a good recording on an accessable CD to buy? Keith |
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29 Mar 07 - 04:26 AM (#2010376) Subject: RE: Hal and Toe From: The Sandman hal and tow. |
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29 Mar 07 - 04:32 AM (#2010384) Subject: RE: Hal and Toe From: Geoff the Duck There are words in the Digitrad - Hal An Tow. Like a lot of stuff, it depends on guessing the spellings used. It looks fairly similar to whst I've usually heard in the past, although one or two of the lines as written don't quite seem to scan. I recall once o the radio hearing a discussion of the song where they said that in an earlier version the "Spaniarda" verse had been :- "They shall eat the grey goose feather, and we shall eat the roast, Oh" The reference to feathers was the ones used to fletch arrows, so the line was about beating enemies in battle - "Eat my arrows you naughty foreigners". Quack! Geoff. |
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29 Mar 07 - 05:06 AM (#2010398) Subject: RE: Hal and Toe From: Marje It's a pity if you have to rely on a recording to teach it to the kids - they learn much more easily from someone singing it directly to them. With a recording, it can be difficult for children to entangle the melody from the accompaniment or harmonies, and they can't see the singer's face and expression, which help with learning words. Isn't there anyone in the school who could learn it and then sing it to/with the children? A few chords on guitar or squeeze-box could accompany it, but it would probably be better with just a drum or other percussion of some sort. If you're stuck, there might be a local folk-club or morris side who'd provide a volunteer to sing it. Marje |
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29 Mar 07 - 05:23 AM (#2010402) Subject: RE: Hal and Toe From: selby Marje They will be accompinaed by a squeeze box and the song is before they dance the Maypole. Unfortunately no singers and Mike Watersons redition is only as Mike could or would sing it, but would be hard for kids to get the scanning right. Capt Birdseye whats an E & W between friends:-) Geoff dont feel left out will see you soon. |
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29 Mar 07 - 05:51 AM (#2010423) Subject: RE: Hal and Toe From: Geoff the Duck Soooooo glad you didn't say "What's a TOE between friends"... Quack! Geoff. |
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29 Mar 07 - 05:52 AM (#2010424) Subject: RE: Hal and Tow From: The Fooles Troupe |
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29 Mar 07 - 06:09 AM (#2010433) Subject: RE: Hal and Toe From: Hawker Jinks Stack did a nice version on their CD 'Second Time Around' Cheers, Lucy |
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29 Mar 07 - 06:58 AM (#2010446) Subject: RE: Hal and Toe From: GUEST What the heck- rock it up with the Oyster Band's version! The Watersons' version that I have is so out of tune on the harmonies that it it could put people with a sense of pitch, off Folk for life. Cheers Dave |
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29 Mar 07 - 11:25 AM (#2010723) Subject: RE: Hal and Toe From: greg stephens GUEST: I think I can manage quite well without anyone who was put off folk for life by the Watersons. I am quite happy in the company of those who the Watersons turned on to folk for life. |
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29 Mar 07 - 12:25 PM (#2010793) Subject: RE: Hal and Tow From: GUEST,puck [ think Magpie Lane recorded an excellent version with Ian Giles taking lead vocals. |
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29 Mar 07 - 12:34 PM (#2010801) Subject: RE: Hal and Toe / Hal and Tow From: the lemonade lady Dave, you are so right. Puck, Ian Giles' version is lovely. I have to one of his biggest fans sal |
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29 Mar 07 - 06:27 PM (#2011145) Subject: RE: Hal and Toe / Hal and Tow From: melodeonboy As May ain't far away I shall soon be dusting it off in preparation myself. I don't know where you are, Selby, but if you're anywhere in the Kent area, I'd be happy to come and sing it to 'em (and with 'em) myself (melodeon optional!). |
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29 Mar 07 - 10:34 PM (#2011318) Subject: RE: Hal and Toe / Hal and Tow From: GUEST,.gargoyle Standard RING/CIRCLE Dance (Americana/Square) beginners.
With a heel and a toe - and a heel and toe And a slide, slide, slide, With a heel and a toe - and a heel and toe And a slide, slide, slide,
Cross right, cross left...and a
Sincerely,
don't want to "hog" the thread....leaving room for another contribution. |
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29 Mar 07 - 11:13 PM (#2011348) Subject: RE: Hal and Toe / Hal and Tow From: Dan Schatz If I read Captain Birdseye right, he's suggesting the Canadian trio Hal An Tow (John Murphy, Jim Stewart and Bernie Houlahan). If he's not, I am - their version is VERY clear and well done. What I can't seem to locate is a way to order it online.... Dan Schatz |
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29 Mar 07 - 11:54 PM (#2011373) Subject: RE: Hal and Toe / Hal and Tow From: Peace Try an e-mail to stewart@nbnet.nb.ca regarding ordering the CD. |
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30 Mar 07 - 05:57 AM (#2011583) Subject: RE: Hal and Toe / Hal and Tow From: Les in Chorlton The Watersons version is .............. well I can't really explain but it gets to parts of the brain rarely reached by other sounds, or am I just unwell? I don't really care for Shirley Collin's voice but SC and the Albion Band has Hal and Tow and it's not bad. |
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30 Mar 07 - 10:38 AM (#2011799) Subject: RE: Hal and Toe / Hal and Tow From: Marje I agree, Les, with what (I think) you're saying about the Watersons. There's something about their singing that is beyond analysis. If you try to pull it apart, it seems flawed and irregular, and breaks some of the rules. But if you just sit back and let it reach you, it has a way of creeping into your bloodstream like an intravenous drip, without any need of intervention from your brain. It's not the only music that feels like that to me, but it's a extreme example of how music can sometimes be more than the sum of the parts. Incidentally, and more on-topic, there was a programme on BBC radio about Helston this morning and they pronounced it Hal an TOW (to rhyme with COW). Marje |
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30 Mar 07 - 11:18 AM (#2011834) Subject: RE: Hal and Toe / Hal and Tow From: Les in Chorlton Spot on Marge the whole of Frost and Fire is like that. Not a lot of folk does that but I heard some Bulgarian stuff that is also very strange. |
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30 Mar 07 - 12:14 PM (#2011882) Subject: RE: Hal and Toe / Hal and Tow From: GUEST,Folkiedave, cookieless in spain Sheffield City Morris were in Hungary in 2004 and hanging around waiting for something or other....as often happens. Four Bulgarian women started singing and if ever i want to I can still hear them - the music made that much of an impresssion, quarter tones, harmonics from the mixing of voices,,,,,,,simply stunnning.......... And Lal Waterson does it for me every time............. |