27 Apr 07 - 01:14 PM (#2037278) Subject: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: An Duilach Mor Hello all, I have looked for about an hour on the web via google, here and alta vista and cannot find the lyrics anywhere. Artists performing it, radio station playlists. but no lyrics. Even saw two people singing it on TG4.tv, Irish language telly but no lyrics... but I am sure you can help... off you go. Many thanks in advance |
27 Apr 07 - 01:49 PM (#2037311) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: Malcolm Douglas There is a text with tune in Eibhlín Bean Mic Coisdealba (Mrs Costello), Amráin Muige Seóla (Dublin: Talbot Press,1923, 15-18; since reprinted) with the text of a related version. I expect that there are more print sources available, but the Irish Gaelic repertoire isn't my area. Do you possess a recording (sometimes sleeve notes provide useful information) or did you just hear it somewhere? |
27 Apr 07 - 01:55 PM (#2037316) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: An Duilach Mor Heard it many times. When I was small, particularly. Nanny now long dead. The sleeves I have seen don't have it. Darach O'Cathain, Roisin Alsafty. Thank you for your guidance to the literature. |
29 Apr 07 - 04:52 PM (#2038902) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: Jim Dixon Can you quote any phrases from the song, other than the title? Search for those phrases using Google, and you're more likely to find the lyrics. |
30 Apr 07 - 02:34 PM (#2039633) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: GUEST there are apparently some Máire Ní Ghríofa soundfile downloads available http://music.msn.com/album/?album=43735420 (Darach O Cathain) http://www.free-albums.net/search-Maire%20Ni%20Ghriofa.asp (Chris Newman + Máire Ní Chathasaigh - album The Hidden Pearl.mp3) http://www.emusic.com/artist/10563/10563871.html (Roisín Elsafty and Treasa Ní Cheannabháin) several other sites have these downloads as well if you purchase the recording by Áine Bean Mhaitiú (see http://www.cic.ie/product.asp?idProduct=714 ), you will probably find a lyrics booklet included (but ask, don't take my word for it as I don't have this album) the song was also on an older Cló Iar-Chonnachta album, CIC001 "Seal ag Tarraingt |
01 May 07 - 07:08 PM (#2040751) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: Malcolm Douglas Time to refresh this one, evidently. I don't have time to post the words from the book I mentioned above, particularly as they are printed in Gaelic rather than Roman type; but I can't be the only person round here who has a copy. |
02 May 07 - 02:31 AM (#2040954) Subject: Lyr Add: MÁIRE NÍ GHRÍOFA From: GUEST,DK The first version here is from 'Amhráin Mhuighe Seóla,' the other two are from 'Na Fonnadórí,' a booklet and three tapes from Donegal. MÁIRE NÍ GHRÍOFA Ó! grádh mo chroidhe le m'anam thú seachas a bhfuil beo, Mar is tú a shábháil m'anam dhom an lá úd a tháinig mór. Bhí dhá chúrsa ceangailte agam agus barróg ar seól A's nior sgar mé le ceann Galúna no go d-táinig mé 'steach 'san ród. Oh! the love of my heart and my soul are you Beyond all that live, For it is you that saved my life for me, On that day as the storm arose. I had two reefs tied, And a tight grip on the sail, And I did not ease off Golum Head Till I entered upon the road. Dá bhfeictheása bád chlainn Dhonnchada gach lá dá dtéigheadh sí chum seóil Phlúcfadh sí an fharraige a's ní fhliuchfadh sí ceann seóil Bhéadh tús ar 'chuile ghála aici dhá dtigeadh an lá mór A's go ndíolfainn mo luichtín móna, a's mé ag comhrá le mo stór. If you were to see Clann Donnach's boat, Each day it went to sea, (How) it would breast the (strongest) wave, And never wet a sail, She would be in advance ot every gale, However rough the day, And I would sell my load of turf, While talking with my love. Mo ghrádh Máir' Ní Ghríobhtha, 'sí budh mhíne ná na mná, Mar sí nár thug ariamh an gloine dhom acht an buidéal a's é a bheith lán. Nuair a shílinn dul dá íoc léi ní dhéanadh sí dhiom acht greann, A's ní sgarfaidh mo ghrádhsa choidche léi go dtí an oidhche thar éis mo báis. Oh! Mary Griffin is my true love, More tender she than all, For 'twas she who never gave me a glass, But the bottle brimming o'er. When I'd think to pay her for't, 'Tis she would mock me fairly, Oh! my love for her will never decay Till the night of death's passed o'er me. Is iomdhá sin maidin Domhnaigh bhí mé súgach deas go leor, Ag dul soir le mo luichtín móna a's dhá chúrsa ar an seól mór, Níor ghéill mé ariamh do mhúr ar bith dá ghála ná do cheo, Nó go dtéigheadh mé á' caint le plúr na mban bhí romham 'san mbaile mór. It's many's the Sunday morning I was jolly and light-hearted, Going down with my little load of turf, With two reefs upon the sail. I never yielded to any shower, To a gale or to a fog, Till I came to talk with the flower of maids, Who was before me in the town. Nuair a imtheóchas mé ar an tir seo 's nuair a dibreochthar mé 'san báid Nuair a caithfidh mé oídhche i Maoinis is dhá oídhche ar an Tráigh-Bháin Siubhailfidh mé thart i Liberti is anonn faoi chunndae-an Chláir: A's mara bpósaidh Mhair' ni Ghriobhtha mé, ni fhillfidh mé go bráth. When I betake me from this shore, And am driven from the boat, When I spend a night at Mweenish, And two nights at Trabane, I will walk across by the Libertíes, And over through County Clare, And if Mary Griffin marries me not, I'll never return again. The places referred to in tbe songs are nearly all in the neighbourhood of Carna, Connemara, e.g. Meenish, Trabane, Ardmore, Golum Head. The "Liberties" referred to are the Liberties of Galway, and "An Bhaile Mór" is Galway town. 8. Máire Ní Ghríofa Ó is chaith mé an bhliain anuraidh leat mar bhí mé óg gan chiall Do do mhealladh is do do bhréagadh is do do dhéanainh amach dhom féin Bhí drochmheas agam ar do mhuintir is bhí an-chion a'm ort féin Ach ní phósfaidh mé ina dhiaidh sin thú nó go bhfaighidh tú tuilleadh spré. Ó is mo ghrása Máire Ní Ghríofa 'sí ba mhíne ná na mná Sí nár thug ariamh an gloine duit ach an buideál 's é a bheith lán Nuair a shíl mé dul chun íoc léi ní dhéanfadh sí liomsa ach greann Ach ní scarfadh mo chroí go deo léi go dtí an geimhreadh tar éis a báis. Ó is tá pian i mbéal mo chléibhe a chuirfeadh na céadta fear chun báis 'Gus tá mé cinnte dearfa nach bhfuil mo leigheas le fáil Nach trua mé anois ag scarúint leat ar theacht don aimsir bhreá Nuair atá an chuaichín óg ag seinm ceoil 'gus an duilliúr glas ag fás. Ó 's nach iomaí maidin Domhnaigh bhí mé súgach deas go leor Ag dul soir le mo luichtín móna is trí chúrsa i mo sheol mór Níor ghéill mé ariamh do mhúr ar bith, do ghála ná do cheo Nó go dtéinnse ag caint le plúr na mban a bhí romham sa mbaile mór. 8. Máire Ní Ghríofa (arís) Is nach iomaí maidin Domhnach a chaith mé súgach maith go leor Ag dul soir le mo luichtín móna is dhá chúrsa i mo sheol mór Níor ghéill mé ariamh do mhúr ar bith dá dhúinte dá mbeadh d'cheo Nó go dtéinn ag caint le plúr na mban a bhíodh romham sa mbaile mór. Is mo ghrá thú, a Mháire Ní Ghríofa, is tú an rí-bhean thar na mná Níor ghéill mé ariamh an cnaigín ort nach líonfá dom an cáirt Nuair a théim isteach go n-íocfainn thú ní dhéanfá díom ach greann Is mo ghrá ní scarfad choíche leat an geimhreadh tar éis do bháis. Is dá bhfeicfeá bád clann Dhonncha gach lá dá dtéadh sí chun seoil Phlúchfadh sí an fharraige is ní fhliuchfadh sí ceann seoil Bhíodh tús ar chuile rás aici nuair a thagadh an lá mór Is nach ndíolfainn mo luichtín móna is mé ag comhrá le mo stór. Is nuair a fhágfas mise an áit seo is nuair a fhágfas mé na báid Caithfidh mé oíche i Maínis is dhá oíche sa Trá Bháin Ar fhilliúint ar ais arís dom beidh mé oíche in Eanach Mheáin Is mura bpósfaidh Máire Ní Ghríofa mé, ní fhillfidh mé go brách. |
03 May 07 - 11:11 AM (#2042306) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: Felipa the place names are Conamara and I believe that's where the Fonnadóirí recordings hail from as well, not Donegal. (is that the set that Risteard Mac Aodha compiled?) |
04 May 07 - 08:28 AM (#2043091) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: GUEST,DK You are right in both instances, Felipa. I must admit that after nearly fifty years away my Irish geography has become rusty, and Risteard Mac Aodha is the person concerned with the collection. |
07 May 07 - 02:30 AM (#2045033) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: An Duilach Mor All I can say is a big thank you. Very kind of you, Guest DK, to take the time to produce your message. It was a tune my nanny, in Galway, used to sing. It has a lovely flat note; typical of Conamara in the tune I recall (which Darach OC naturally drops in his style when you listen). I wanted to find it because I need a couple more slow songs, in Irish, for the All Britain Fleadh at the end of next month and this one is a pleasure to sing - the writer is singing away to himself about Maire, as you do. A song with a bit of abandon in it is the best to sing - with these lyrical songs, the place you go to when you sing seems to come across. I'll have some good memories of 30 years ago in my head, anyway. So if you're near by Preston, Lancs, UK at the end of June and I win - well I owe you a glass. :) Thanks again, Wes. |
11 Apr 11 - 10:37 PM (#3133426) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: GUEST,Grace Wagner What is the name Ni Ghriofa in English? Griffin, i guess.... |
12 Apr 11 - 02:52 AM (#3133496) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: MartinRyan Yes. |
12 Apr 11 - 10:20 AM (#3133692) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: leeneia I believe the 'Ni' means 'grandaughter of' |
12 Apr 11 - 10:50 AM (#3133716) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: MartinRyan Hi leenia "daughter" rather than "grandaughter". The convention was for single women to use this form. Married women used a modified (genitive) version of their husband's surname. Bit more complicated now! Regards |
13 Apr 11 - 09:22 AM (#3134321) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: leeneia Thanks, Martin. that's interesting. Could you give some examples of modified husband's surnames? ========= there's a video of someone singing 'Maire Ni Ghriofa' on YouTube, if anybody wants the tune. |
13 Apr 11 - 10:42 AM (#3134361) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: MartinRyan Leenia Suppose Máire ní Ghríofa marries Seán Ó Neachtain - she would be referred to as Máire Uí Neachtain. The "uí" is a possessive (gramattically!) form of Ó. Nowadays, as far as I know, if she divorces the bould Seán but decides to retain his surname, she becomes Máire Ó Neachtain! Regards p.s. Pedant Alert! Be warned that this is only the tip of the iceberg as far as the intricacies of surname usage in Irish go... |
13 Apr 11 - 10:55 AM (#3134369) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: MartinRyan Click here to hear a version on Youtube sung by Máirtín Tom Sheáinín - whose name illustrates an older naming system still used in areas where Irish is the first language. Regards p.s Tune is also known as "Roll Me to the Wall", amongst other titles. |
13 Apr 11 - 12:44 PM (#3134440) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: leeneia Thanks for the info, Martin. Those prefixes have been intriguing me for a long time. Now, what about a powerful clan I have read about called the Ui Neill? |
13 Apr 11 - 01:01 PM (#3134452) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: MartinRyan Same thing, really - "Clann Uí Néill" means (the) Family/Tribe/Clan of O'Neill. Using the Uí in English doesn't really make sense. Notice also that Irish doesn't use the apostrophe with O! Regards |
18 Apr 11 - 02:46 PM (#3137585) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: MartinRyan Refresh |
15 Jun 16 - 01:53 PM (#3795945) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Maire Ni Ghriofa From: keberoxu Just had my first encounter with this song. The recording I listened to, matched exactly what is in the collection from which one poster contributed the lyrics. This thread has a post from 2 May 2007, with three different versions of the lyrics; the first version in the post is the one I refer to. The collection is often cited and referenced in Mudcat forum threads, although in the post to this thread the citation is very brief. Here follows a bibliographic description as well as I can supply it, from my copy, which is one of the respectful reprint edition. Bi-lingual Title: Amhráin Mhuighe Seóla. Traditional Folk-Songs from Galway and Mayo. Bi-lingual identification of Editor: Mrs. Eileen [Drury] Costello Eibhlín Bean Mhic Choisdealbha for completeness' sake, the collector who most aided the Editor, also bi-lingual: Maggie Hession Mairéad Ní Oisín Publication and reprint info: Talbot Press, 1923 [Journal, Irish Folk Song Society] © Cló Iar-Chonnachta, 1990 [Indreabhán, Conamara] "Máir' Ní Ghriobhtha" is the 10th song in the book, pp. 15 - 18. The book contains 80 titles altogether. |