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Station Inn Whitby (renamed Tap & Spile)

01 May 07 - 04:32 PM (#2040604)
Subject: Station Inn Whitby
From: The Villan

Somebody requested a new thread for the renamed Tap & Spile at Whitby, so here it is.


01 May 07 - 05:02 PM (#2040648)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: squeezeboxhp

so what was wrong with the cutty sark


01 May 07 - 06:17 PM (#2040710)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: gnomad

Last I heard she was in Greenwich ;-]

At least the new name has relevance to the pub's location, so it seems fair to give it a go.


02 May 07 - 01:56 AM (#2040940)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: The Villan

It used to be called the Station Inn before the Tap & Spile, I believe.


02 May 07 - 03:38 AM (#2040979)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,Observer

I think it was called the Station Inn before the Cutty Sark, which was before the Tap and Spile. ( I am prepared to stand corrected:-))

Ob


02 May 07 - 03:40 AM (#2040981)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Geoff the Duck

When I first got to Whitby Folk Week (1981) the pub was called the Cutty Sark, and was a nice enough, but fairly ordinary pub with nice enough but fairly ordinary beer. I can't recall for certain which brewery it was tied to, possibly Camerons, but It is a long time ago now. The decor was carpets, wallpaper and a single choice of beer.
In the early 1980s a few innovative landlords across the country came up with the idea of giving beer drinkers a choice not linked to ONE breaery. The Fighting Cock in Bradford (formerly the Preston Hotel) was one of the first of these. These were totally independent and as decor cvhose to go for the original wooden floor and a clean but basic decor, nothing fancy.
When they had proved that this idea was popular, a number of bigger organisations copied the idea but as a chain of pubs all branded in basically the same way. The Tap and Spile chain was one of these.
Since that time, the "chain"was bought and sold between brewery and "pub owning company" and in the process the freedom to select their own choice of beer which the licensee originally had, became more and more restricted to an OFFICIAL LIST provided by the "COMPANY". Finally the chain was split up by the accountants, with many of the pubs sold off completely. Some were leased to the occupiers. At this point many of the pubs which had been Tap & Spiles changed their name and image. Other landlords/ladies decided to keep the name and the "branding" as it suited the type of customer they wished to encourage.

Back to Whitby. The new management seem to want to keep going the same kind of music which made itself at home in the Tap, but they also intend to alter other aspects of the pub, type and scale of food served, for instance. Changes to the decor have been fairly subtle, but they presumably feel that what the will be offering is different enough from the Tap & Spile brand image that the name is no longer appropriate. It makes sense that a new name goes with a "new" pub.
What they haven't done is turned it back into the style or type of pub which the old Cutty Sark was. If they had just reverted to how it was then, it might make sense to go back to being "the Cutty" but they are going for something diferent from both pubs.
I am told that the pub WAS originally called The Station, hardly surprising as it is directly opposite the railway station. I suspect the name probably got changed after Beeching gutted the rail network.
It therefore is a pretty obvious choice as new name for the pub.
Quack!
Geoff the Duck.


02 May 07 - 03:44 AM (#2040986)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Geoff the Duck

Didn't spot those typing errors before I posted. Spotted a load of others though.
By the way, it was me who suggested a new thread, the old Tap & Spile one was getting very long and frankly most of it was irrelevant to the pub under new management and new name. I just thought a fresh start would be appropriate.
Quack!
Geoff.


02 May 07 - 05:49 AM (#2041068)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Betsy

There's a few boozers called the Tap and Spile up in North East Yorks - there's certainly one in Guisborough - I wonder if they belong to a little chain."They" generally bought pubs which were not doing very well - and put in real ales.
The Cutty Sark and many many others were not welcoming to folkies in the 70's / 80's until they had a rethink and realised how much the folkies were spending. Also in those days, money was tight in Whitby
Geoff has got me there - usually I can remember which pub sold what -so I'll not doubt his Camerons, but it could have been Sam Shits or Whitbread , but let's go with Camerons.
Btw , Butcher Beeching didn't get Whitby - there has always been a timetabled / scheduled journey between Middlesbrough and Whitby and what a great little journey it is once you get out of the Boro.
I say THAT with intimimate knowledge of the Boro - so no knocking too much please !
Anyhow the Station is !!!!


02 May 07 - 06:29 AM (#2041104)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Dave the Gnome

The Fat Ox at Whitley Bay (My now weektime home) is a Tap and Spile that seems to have reverted. I can't remember what beer was sold at the Cutty either. Can't see it being either Camerons or Sam Smiths seeing as they are both breweries are still well represented in Whitby. Could have been I suppose if it wasn't doiing well but it was always heaving when I went to the festival in the 80's.

Dave.


02 May 07 - 06:38 AM (#2041107)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,MC Fat

Cameron got a foothold in the North Yorkshire region by buying a Malton Brewery (I think it was Rose's) that's why there was a large contingent of Camerons Pubs in Whitby. Camerons then went through a colourfull array of owners after the Cameron family sold it - Elerman Lines and eventually to the corrupt Slater Walker group who promptly assett stripped sold off pubs started cahins like Tap and Spile before the rump of the company being sold to Wolverhampton and Dudley who when under threat by the Stock market sold it off to Castle Eden which in itself was a management buyout from Whitbread.


02 May 07 - 06:40 AM (#2041108)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Dave the Gnome

I'm sure the Elsinore was still selling Camerons Strong Arm when I was in Whitby last year. So who owns them now?

D.


02 May 07 - 07:05 AM (#2041118)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,edthefolkie

Camerons are still owned by Castle Eden but at least they still brew in Hartlepool. They could have been taken over by Gr**ne K*ng and the brewery immediately closed down like Hardys & Hansons in Nottingham (and Morlands, and all the rest)

As for the Station Inn - might get more business now the North York Moors Railway has got the go-ahead to run regular steam into Whitby. Many gricers seem also to be folkies - after all why not be COMPLETELY unfashionable?


02 May 07 - 08:34 AM (#2041165)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,jj

Check Out the beerintheevening website and search for The Station Inn Whitby, photos, information, opening times etc!!!


02 May 07 - 10:14 AM (#2041263)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,guest

Prior to being the Tap & Spile the Cutty was a camerons house
Prior to being the Cutty which was built in 1932 on the site of what was once Jutland Cottage and a wharehouse - the pub was actually below Jutland Cottage and was called The Railway Inn.
There was a fire which destroyed the original buildings and the Cutty was built as is.


02 May 07 - 12:08 PM (#2041358)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Snuffy

I'm afraid Butcher Beeching did get the line THROUGH Whitby, Betsy. When I was in short trousers, our church choir used to spend a couple of weeks at a Christian camp in Staithes - and we got there on a train from Scarborough via Robin Hoods Bay and Whitby and Hinderwell and other places with exotic names. An amazing route which didn't exactly hug the coast, but seemed to flirt with it!

All gone now


02 May 07 - 12:32 PM (#2041385)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Carol

Snuffy that's where the Staithes Acoustic weekend uses the camp site I reckon the showers etc. are the same ones! Great weekend how about coming up/over to renew old memories!!


02 May 07 - 12:59 PM (#2041421)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Snuffy

Do you think I'll find much unchanged after 50 years?


02 May 07 - 07:10 PM (#2041770)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Geoff the Duck

Thanks GUEST,guest for the information. I'm afraid I'll have to give a PEDANT ALERT though and ask if you meant:-
Jutland Cottage and a warehouse
            OR
Jutland Cottage and a whorehouse

Quack!
GtD.


03 May 07 - 06:04 AM (#2042057)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,one who is not in the in crowd

Do you still have to have a badge?


03 May 07 - 06:30 AM (#2042073)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,The Station Inn Whitby!

Thanks to all for all your opinions and nice comments, and thanks for the new thread - I am sure the name debate will be an interesting one!

Badge?? Everyone is welcome in our pub, folkies, goths, musicians of all types, young, old, locals and tourists, the more the merrier!

Although Andrew has worked here for a while, I have never experienced a Moor and Coast/Folk Week here before (except for working in the Shambles, different feel) so I am looking forward to meeting you all, and getting to know you. Just a couple of changes you might be interested in - we are open at 10am daily for drinks, and over Moor and Coast will be closing at 2am(Fri and Sat)!

Looking forward to meeting you all,

Colin.


03 May 07 - 06:32 AM (#2042074)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST

Guest above - PLEASE don't start carping on about that old chestnut here. I'm bored with it on other similar threads, and I've never been in the old Tap side room in Folk Week either, which is what I presume you mean.


03 May 07 - 06:34 AM (#2042076)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Wyrd Sister

Sorry Colin, I meant Guest one-who-is-not-etc, and 'Guest' were I!


03 May 07 - 06:39 AM (#2042083)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,guest

oops warehouse but then you never know!


03 May 07 - 07:23 PM (#2042743)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Geoff the Duck

Just checking, you understand!
We NEED to know these things.
Quack!
GtD.


04 May 07 - 05:36 PM (#2043495)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,in York

I'm off to the Moor and Coast festival tomorrow! but I can't figure out from google etc just where the festival office in the station inn is. From this thread it seems that the staion inn is opposite the train station--is that right/ And that's where the festival office is??
And is the concert on the grand turk really in a ship?! If anyone knows, I'd be very grateful for a reply (I figure e-mailing the organizers mid-fest isn't exactly practical..) Thanks. :)


04 May 07 - 06:14 PM (#2043515)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Willa

The Station Inn is (almost) opposite the station - easy to find.The festival office is usually in the room on the left as you enter the pub.

The grand Turk is indeed a ship, moored near to the station and the pub; a reconstruction of a sailing vessel; some other 'catter will give you a more detailed description. A grand venue for a session.


05 May 07 - 01:39 AM (#2043683)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,in York

Hey thanks so much!


05 May 07 - 09:31 PM (#2044299)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST

I like the Station Inn!!!!


06 May 07 - 09:21 AM (#2044534)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST


07 May 07 - 06:20 AM (#2045084)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,Guest

Was in there Sat and Sunday mid day, what a fantastic place. It was very busy great atmosphere, frindly bar staff, good ale what more could I ask. To the new landlorsd "Keep up the good work"


07 May 07 - 10:25 AM (#2045189)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Mo the caller

Back in the 70's the old railway line to Sandsend was a delightful walk in May/June. All sorts of flowers. We tried it last year (along the beach W -S then back along the rwy, but got told off for being on the golf course.


07 May 07 - 02:52 PM (#2045352)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST

We really enjoyed it here this weekend, i agree it is very friendly and the ale is very good


07 May 07 - 03:53 PM (#2045413)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST


08 May 07 - 04:03 AM (#2045874)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Carol

Just to say had a great weekend based in the Railway - my only comment would be that the 'inmates', especially those with instruments could try to make some space for other people trying to get into the room i.e. sometimes it looks full when it isn't really.
Apart from that thanks to all the staff for a great weekend.


08 May 07 - 04:08 AM (#2045877)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Mo the caller

The problem of space in sessions (in general) is that often musicians have several big instruments, all with cases that take up more space.

Mo the recorder player!


08 May 07 - 04:57 AM (#2045903)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Carol

Sorry Mo I was talking about the singarounds with usually guitars, taking up the space where someone could sit.


08 May 07 - 06:27 AM (#2045928)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,the one

so was mo


08 May 07 - 07:21 AM (#2045958)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Carol

Sorry I thought Mo was talking about music sessions


08 May 07 - 09:50 AM (#2046103)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Raggytash

There is always a dilemma regarding cases, however if you consider that some of these instruments cost several thousand quid it understandable that the owners want nice solid cases to put them in.


08 May 07 - 12:07 PM (#2046201)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,strummer

rather a case occupying the space than yet another singer !
:-)


08 May 07 - 12:57 PM (#2046238)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,deer stalker

what a fantastic weekend ( moore and coast). made music with many friends, beer quality second to none, no less than 8 beers on hand pump and old rosie cider. this and nothing ran out ! well done collin & andrew.


09 May 07 - 03:24 PM (#2047214)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,D

A really enjoyable weekend was had by all, we certainly did. Who will be at folk week?


09 May 07 - 04:04 PM (#2047259)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,in York

I thought Moor & Coast was fantastic... By the way, thanks again to those on this list who told me where the Station Inn was...

The Grand Turk--what an amazing place for a concert ( not to mention the fact that all the singers and players were terrific)....I'll certainly be at Folk Week, in fact, one of my ulterior motives for going to the Moor & Coast fest was to find a cheaper B&B for August.

Unfortunately I'm still too much of a beginner to join in a tune session in a pub. Hey--could anyone suggest three old favourite tunes that get played in sessions that I could learn on the mandolin before August??


12 May 07 - 09:28 AM (#2049902)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST

Looking forward to whitby folk week now, even more now we can go back into the station!!!!


12 May 07 - 09:34 AM (#2049905)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,D

Much more welcoming, i not the only one thinking this, has anyone seen their web page?


12 May 07 - 05:24 PM (#2050173)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: collierlad

Station Inn Whitby Folk Photo Centre


30 Jul 07 - 10:59 AM (#2114746)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,The Station Inn Whitby

The Station Inn Whitby


31 Jul 07 - 11:29 AM (#2115583)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Red and White Rabbit

Looking forward to my first pint there since the name change and the new owners - might enjoy a sing too if my daughter will let me out!


31 Jul 07 - 11:41 AM (#2115593)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,Old folkie

Ah - you mean the Citty Sark.


04 Aug 07 - 04:23 AM (#2118874)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,D

No - The Station Inn! Is the station involved with folk week? There is nothing in the programme?


04 Aug 07 - 07:12 AM (#2118920)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: nutty

The Station is very much involved in folk week but as part of the Fringe rather than as an official venue.


04 Aug 07 - 07:35 AM (#2118929)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: selby

Guest D The Station Inn used to be called the Cutty Sark before it became the Tap and Spile
Keith:-)


04 Aug 07 - 09:26 AM (#2118963)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,D

Yes but not the Citty Sark?! And before that I believe the Railway Station Inn


10 Aug 07 - 09:11 AM (#2123000)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Brakn

Bought the programme in there yesterday! (The Station)


10 Aug 07 - 10:24 AM (#2123062)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: GUEST,The Station Inn Whitby

To start off Folk Week in style, there will be a Folk Session on Friday 17th at 7.30pm in The Station Inn, hope to see you all there, Cheers


10 Aug 07 - 05:26 PM (#2123293)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby
From: Mrs.Duck

Well we will be there from Saturday staying in a cottage just a short stagger from the Station :0)


24 Aug 07 - 08:15 PM (#2133062)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby (renamed Tap & Spile)
From: GUEST,The Station Inn Whitby

Just a quick Thank you to everyone for such a nice week! We have all enjoyed ourselves as much as I hope you all have. Thank you to Jude and Co for the card, it really made everyone's day behind the bar!

Hope to see you all again soon,
Thanks again,

Col - The Station Inn


25 Aug 07 - 03:09 PM (#2133413)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby (renamed Tap & Spile)
From: Herga Kitty

Thanks to Col and Andy for a great week, and to Jude for running singarounds that kept track of whose turn it was to sing (in order of arrival).

Kitty

PS Snuffy - you can now walk or cycle from Whitby to Robin Hood's Bay along the railway path.


25 Aug 07 - 03:17 PM (#2133416)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby (renamed Tap & Spile)
From: Mrs.Duck

Absolutely great week and some brilliant singing as ever. Many thanks to Colin and Andy for letting us continue the tradition. Knackered now!!


25 Aug 07 - 03:18 PM (#2133417)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby (renamed Tap & Spile)
From: John MacKenzie

Nice to see you there Jane!
G


25 Aug 07 - 06:02 PM (#2133492)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby (renamed Tap & Spile)
From: Mrs.Duck

But you didn't see me did you? I didn't see you or was it post sober watershed :0)


25 Aug 07 - 07:42 PM (#2133543)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby (renamed Tap & Spile)
From: r.padgett

Skint and tired again!

Many thanks to all who sang, see you all next year god willing!

Ray


27 Aug 07 - 08:32 PM (#2134947)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby (renamed Tap & Spile)
From: GUEST,The Station Inn Bar Staff

We would like to say thanks to all of the folk week customers. We had a great time and we hope you did as well. Thanks for the drinks that were bought for us and especially to Jude and the singers in the front room for your generosity. See you all next time.

Pat, Emma, Haley and the rest of the Station Inn staff


05 Sep 07 - 09:08 AM (#2141414)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby (renamed Tap & Spile)
From: GUEST,Guest Whitby Resident

Like most people in this thread I have enjoyed many of the sessions in the Station Inn - it's just a shame that they now have to resort to playing muzak during the day!


05 Sep 07 - 01:35 PM (#2141684)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby (renamed Tap & Spile)
From: Gedpipes

Can anyone kindly let me have Jonty's contact details please
Cheers
Ged


20 Jan 08 - 09:48 AM (#2240548)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby (renamed Tap & Spile)
From: GUEST,The Station Inn

On the 31st January - we will have been here for 1 year, so we just want to take this opportunity to thank everyone for their continued support and custom!!

Cheers,

Col x


20 Jan 08 - 04:14 PM (#2240804)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby (renamed Tap & Spile)
From: Herga Kitty

Congratulations on your impending anniversary, Col - see you in August!

Kitty


29 Jan 08 - 09:52 AM (#2247794)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby (renamed Tap & Spile)
From: GUEST,Mitch

Congratulations!


02 Sep 08 - 12:28 PM (#2428867)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby (renamed Tap & Spile)
From: GUEST,jj

Another great time at the Station! Why are we still calling it the tap and spile though on this thread? Nice to see the same staff as last year, not sure about the pierceed neck though!!?


02 Sep 08 - 02:26 PM (#2429009)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby (renamed Tap & Spile)
From: JHW

I'd wondered whether to put up a Station thread not knowing there was one here.
Wondered indeed whether to keep Jude's excellent singarounds a secret for those who know.
Quality has built on quality over the years and The Station is certainly my first recourse at Whitby.
As to large instruments obviously if everyone brought a guitar that would be difficult and usually I defer to voice alone; but there was room this year at times for instruments and I wouldn't like to lose the variety.
John


04 Sep 08 - 11:03 AM (#2430864)
Subject: RE: Station Inn Whitby (renamed Tap & Spile)
From: GUEST,jj

Agreed, very nice