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03 May 07 - 09:06 PM (#2042810) Subject: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Liz the Squeak May the Fourth be with you!! Today you should: Wear your hair like Princess Leia or Chewbacca... Drive around in a car with no wheels... Work into general conversation, all your favourite Star Wars characters and sayings... Have your team meeting in the manner of Yoda: 'Not a good result this is, working harder you must.' Greet your children in the manner of Obi Wan: 'At school today, you learn well, Skywalker!' or Darth: 'Limpit, I AM your father!' Have a happy Star Wars Day... now will someone get this walking carpet out of my way? LTS |
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03 May 07 - 10:00 PM (#2042850) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Liz the Squeak OK, so it isn't quite there over the pond.. it's been Star Wars day for 3 hours here on the proper side! LTS |
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03 May 07 - 11:17 PM (#2042886) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Ebbie You don't sound all that "proper", Liz. :) |
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04 May 07 - 03:28 AM (#2042939) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: The Fooles Troupe Damn - ya beat me to it... |
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04 May 07 - 03:43 AM (#2042951) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Liz the Squeak Ah Foolestroupe - I know what you are getting for Christmas. I have felt your presents. LTS |
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04 May 07 - 08:09 AM (#2043077) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Grab "You know we're going through a round of redundancies? Well we're handing out nametags. If you're Red Five, stick around. If you're Biggs, Porkins or Red Leader..." |
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04 May 07 - 08:25 AM (#2043085) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: skipy Don't underestimate the Force. or in my case - the farce. Skipy |
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04 May 07 - 08:26 AM (#2043087) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Donuel I saw the first Star Wars on opening day in NYC. The cheers that went up when Princess Leia grabbed a gun seemed staged from the front rows but the first time they went to light speed woof the whole audience was blown away. |
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04 May 07 - 11:27 AM (#2043236) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Liz the Squeak the whole audience was blown away. Spaw was in the front row then....?! LTS |
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04 May 07 - 02:32 PM (#2043339) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: RangerSteve I liked episodes 4-6, thought 1 and 2 were okay, but never got up enough interest to see episode 3. Basically, give a damn I don't. And if I meet anyone in costume, punch them I will. There, like Yoda I talked. My part I've done. Steve |
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05 May 07 - 07:48 AM (#2043840) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Nigel Parsons "Gaffer Tape is like The Force, It has a dark Side, a Light Side, and it holds the Universe together" (Seen on a badge) CHEERS Nigel |
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05 May 07 - 02:08 PM (#2044005) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Becca72 So Liz, how would that be different than how I spend every other day of my life? (yes, I'm a HUGE Star Wars geek and proud of it). "Impressive...most impressive. But you are not a Jedi yet". |
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05 May 07 - 03:33 PM (#2044069) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: mouldy On the first (I think) Star Wars day in 1979 (seeing it was the year after the film came out), the only force I knew of was me giving birth to my 8lbs 12oz son!! Andrea |
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05 May 07 - 03:38 PM (#2044071) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Becca72 The original film came out in 1977 so he was born on the 2nd Star Wars day :-) |
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05 May 07 - 05:51 PM (#2044154) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Don Firth Strange Encounter. Possible captions: "You will tell me how to get to Sesame Street!"Don Firth |
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05 May 07 - 09:39 PM (#2044307) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Liz the Squeak Easy that one.... I have felt your presents. LTS |
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05 May 07 - 10:25 PM (#2044334) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Alice I saw Star Wars in 1978 in a theater in Sonsonate, El Salvador. The theater was always kept dark inside, and there were bats living in it. It was like a concrete cave. The bats were flying through the light of the projector. The audience didn't get the jokes (subtitles) because it just didn't translate very well into Spanish. The guy behind me fell asleep and started snoring very loudly during the movie. The other half of the building was a train station. The locomotive was the old coal burning kind. It pulled into the station and shook the whole building. My Salvadorena friend did not understand why this movie was so popular in the US. She spoke fluent English and lived most of the year in Nevada, so she did understand the dialogue... just did not understand why such ugly and scary creatures in a story could be entertaining. She liked Benji movies... you know, the cute little dog. |
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06 May 07 - 01:23 AM (#2044386) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Liz the Squeak Benji...... eeeuuuuuuwwwwwwwwwwww, now THERE'S a scary little creature! It appealed because it was one of the first mainstream science fiction films, and it didn't have John Trevolting in it, which was a big plus for several people, as he was in practically everything else at that time. LTS |
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06 May 07 - 06:47 AM (#2044476) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: The Fooles Troupe "he was in practically everything else at that time" oooooo, you're naughty Liz... |
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07 May 07 - 04:21 AM (#2045059) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: guitar I saw the first star wars and I thought at the end it was all right. the man the played the part of darth vada came from the south of england I think the west country, and he would of said arrh luke lad i'm yer father arrh now get off that f... tractor |
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07 May 07 - 04:22 AM (#2045060) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: guitar And yet the voice was that James earl jones. |
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07 May 07 - 08:05 PM (#2045631) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Don Firth The actor wearing the black cloak and with the black chamber pot in his head was David Prowse, body-builder and actor. Stands some 6"7" tall. Most impressive! In addition to his many acting credits, he trained a tall, slender Christopher Reeve for his role in "Superman," helping him develop a physique more in keeping with the role—Reeve gained some 30 lbs., all muscle. Prowse's speaking voice was not as dark or menacing as Lucas wanted for the voice of Darth Vader, so he got James Earl Jones ("This . . . is CNN.") to dub in the voice. David Prowse was not happy about this, but with that bucket over his head, they didn't have any problem switching voices. No lip-synching necessary, Don Firth |
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07 May 07 - 08:07 PM (#2045634) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Don Firth That should be 6'7". Don Firth |
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08 May 07 - 05:24 AM (#2045916) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Dave the Gnome Have you ever heard David Prowse though? The West Country accent doesn't do an awful lot for the menace factor - It would be like being threatened by the Wurzels! :D |
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08 May 07 - 06:58 AM (#2045939) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Liz the Squeak Dave Prowse was more upset at being replaced by some other actor when the chamber pot (based on the WWII German infantry helmet) was removed in 'Return of the Jedi'. The actor who was actually unveiled when the lid came off was Sebastian Shaw (born Norfolk 1905, d Brighton 1994). What is it about American film makers that they must use English people for baddies? LTS |
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08 May 07 - 03:12 PM (#2046345) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Don Firth It was awhile back that I saw the BBC mini-series, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy." David Prowse appeared briefly. It was in the final episode (I think), "The Restaurant at the End of the Universe," in which Peter Davison appeared as the Dish of the Day, laid out on a large tray and offering parts of his carcass as being particularly delectable. I had seen him before in "All Creatures Great and Small," and as one of the 837 actors who have played "Doctor Who," but I hardly recognized him at first, garnished with all that parsley. Bizarre scene! David Prowse appeared briefly in that episode as a bouncer. I don't recall that he had many lines, but I do remember that his voice was not particularly menacing. I did notice that he had a definite regional English accent, but I'm afraid I'm not familiar enough with such to have identified the locale. His main job as bouncer seemed to be to loom, intimidating by sheer size. He wore a light colored suit with stripes, as I recall, and that was pretty scary! Don Firth |
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08 May 07 - 03:22 PM (#2046360) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: WFDU - Ron Olesko "What is it about American film makers that they must use English people for baddies?" I agree, it is too easy!! :) |
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08 May 07 - 05:16 PM (#2046440) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Little Hawk There is a deep hostility evident in American culture toward people who appear to emanate such qualities as urbane sophistication, subtlety, intellectuality, and so on... Since the more upper class English are very good at emanating those qualities, they make perfect villains in any American drama. The French are also good at it, by the way. I do not agree with the American veneration of frontier simplicity...as opposed to British or French sophistication. Frontier simplicity is no guarantee of either good character or good intentions. |
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08 May 07 - 05:33 PM (#2046448) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: KB in Iowa RangerSteve said: "I liked episodes 4-6, thought 1 and 2 were okay, but never got up enough interest to see episode 3." Basically agree about the five you have seen. As for episode 3, don't bother, it sucks. |
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08 May 07 - 06:40 PM (#2046494) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Becca72 I don't agree with that. Of the three "new" films, I found episode 3 to be the best and it also answers a lot of questions that make you have an "Ah! of course!" moment while watching. Episode 1 was crap and 2 was just alright IMO. |
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08 May 07 - 07:03 PM (#2046510) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Don Firth That's a pretty broad generalization there, Little Hawk. Don Firth |
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08 May 07 - 09:09 PM (#2046606) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Don Firth I can't let that one go without further comment. I live in a major west coast city (which some folks with little geographical or historical knowledge regard as part of the "wild and wooly West" and think is a primitive settlement of log cabins and igloos—the "frontier"), and almost all the people I know exhibit those same qualities—urbane sophistication, subtlety, and intellectuality—that Little Hawk ascribes to the English (which, you will admit, is a bit of a generalization in itself). Many of them could be said to be anglophiles, and they have a far different concept of what constitutes "the perfect villain." I've been over this country a fair amount, to both eastern and western Canada, and spent a short time in Mexico, and although I've run unto a few people with what might be called a "veneration of frontier simplicity," my impression of them if they had to actually cope with anything like what the frontier really was (as opposed to John Wayne movies), they'd fold up like a cheap lawn-chair. ". . . a deep hostility evident in American culture toward people who appear to emanate such qualities as urbane sophistication, subtlety, intellectuality". . . ." Not that I have seen. I might also point out that Darth Vader was not supposed to be English. All of that occurred "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away." And Darth Vader, as heard by millions of American theater-goers (not to mention subsequent television showings and DVDs), spoke with James Earl Jones's voice, not with an English accent. Don Firth |
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08 May 07 - 10:33 PM (#2046660) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: WFDU - Ron Olesko "a deep hostility evident in American culture toward people who appear to emanate such qualities as urbane sophistication, subtlety, intellectuality" No, we just smirk at those who think that they are somehow superior when they attempt to emanate such qualities as urban sphistication, subtlety, and intellectuality. Usually these kind of people lack in all three traits. Also, the fact that they consider these to be "qualities" while looking down upon "frontier simplicity" speaks volumes about their real lack of sophistication. |
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09 May 07 - 10:30 AM (#2047018) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: KB in Iowa OK, Becca, you can like episode 3 if you want to, I don't mind (I reserve the right to not like it myself). I thought episode 1 was OK except for the kid who played Annikin (sp?), I thought he was awful (you are, of course , free to disagree). Episode 2 was OK as well. None of them even came close to the original three (as originally presented, not the re-done versions) as far as I am concerned. Even with all their faults they are just wonderful. |
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09 May 07 - 05:44 PM (#2047322) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Becca72 I have to agree with you on everything except the Episode 3 bit, KB. The original three films will never be outdone. |
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09 May 07 - 07:31 PM (#2047426) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Liz the Squeak Re Darth Vader - the voice was American, but out of the them 3 actors credited with playing Darth in the first 3 movies, 2 of them were British actors. My point was, of all the nasty, real Americans there have been, why do movies always use British actors to portray baddies? The exception being Patrick Stewart - or Jean-Luc Picard/Professor Xavier. LTS |
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09 May 07 - 07:37 PM (#2047429) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Becca72 Maybe I'm being dense (I've worked 12 hours today and am beat) but I fail to see how Darth Vader is considered British. Just because the dude inside the suit is British doesn't mean a damned thing, especially when hardly anyone knows that fact (except true fans). The voice is American and there is no facial expression to go by... The dude inside the Chewbacca suit was British, too but I don't see anyone complaining that Americans alway portray Brits as tall and hairy with limited verbal skills... |
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09 May 07 - 11:07 PM (#2047550) Subject: RE: BS: Happy Star Wars Day 2007 From: Don Firth ". . . why do movies always use British actors to portray baddies?" Liz, I'm afraid I'm in a quandry. What movies are you referring to? I can think of lots of American-made movies in which the villains are all played by Americans. If there were a fair number of British actors in the Star Wars series (e.g., Alec Guinness, one of the good guys), maybe it was because large chunks of the Star Wars movies were shot in England. The whole swamp scene where Luke first met Yoda was on a sound-stage in England. And what about all the heroes that have been portrayed by English actors? The various James Bonds for openers. Don Firth |
