BS: France elects a french GWB

07 May 07 - 10:42 AM (#2045197)
Subject: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Donuel

"Muslim rioters are scum" quote right wing Nicola the winner of the French Presidency.
We need a strong police state yada yada yada

He won out over his female opponent who did not know exactly how many nuclear subs France has.

He is a mixture of George Bush with the rhetoric of Newt Gingrich.

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07 May 07 - 11:24 AM (#2045226)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Amos

Me semble qu'on va voir le fin de "liberté, egalité, et fraternité", dans les annees prochaines. C'est un peu effroyant qu'il insiste que sa nation est "un ami" avec ce de Monsieur Boosh. Ils ont tous les deux des nations completement imagináires, ma foi.

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07 May 07 - 11:39 AM (#2045231)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Wolfgang

No, he's much more intelligent.

Wolfgang

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07 May 07 - 11:50 AM (#2045235)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Amos

That could be quite a good thing for la belle France, but it could also be scary as hell, depending on the direction along which he applies his intelligence.

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07 May 07 - 12:02 PM (#2045239)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: katlaughing

Someone who used to live in France, who now lives in the US, said it will probably be good for the US in that we tend to have a more liberal government when France is more conservative. Not that that makes it any better they have voted in such as him.

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07 May 07 - 12:36 PM (#2045257)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Peace

"France elects a french GWB"

Bush can't speak English. Is he any better in French?

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07 May 07 - 12:55 PM (#2045269)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Stilly River Sage

No, because the problem isn't rooted in the speaking, it is rooted in the thinking. He can't think in any language.

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07 May 07 - 12:57 PM (#2045272)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Richard Bridge

Shouldn't that be "Il me semble"?

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07 May 07 - 01:10 PM (#2045281)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Peace

I don't want to piss off my Amnerican friends--all four of them--but WHY did he get elected? It boggles the mind. There must be people out there who believe he makes sense. Does anyone else find that scary, or is it just me and my natural paranoia?

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07 May 07 - 01:18 PM (#2045290)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Mrrzy

Right - at least GWB stole the election!

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07 May 07 - 01:19 PM (#2045291)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Riginslinger

If the truth were known, I'll bet his preceived stand on immigration is what won it for him.

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07 May 07 - 01:58 PM (#2045315)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Jean(eanjay)

I'm sure his stand on immigration was a big factor but he also has some other good policies, which will appeal to a lot of people, such as his policies on overtime and inheritance tax.

It's interesting that he is the son of an Hungarian immigrant. He seems to see this as his opportunity to repay France for what it has done for him.

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07 May 07 - 02:36 PM (#2045345)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Alice

Some day it will be shown that GWB stole both elections making him president.

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07 May 07 - 03:05 PM (#2045365)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Amos

Richard:

Yes, formally. Colloquially, the "il" often gets dropped. Cf. "Seems to me..."


A

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07 May 07 - 03:42 PM (#2045399)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: dianavan

Now Americans can stop calling french fries, freedom fries.

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07 May 07 - 03:46 PM (#2045405)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Peace

Des frites, s'il vous plait.

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07 May 07 - 03:51 PM (#2045409)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Somehow I don't think Sarkozy will start a war in the Middle East.
We will have to wait and see, but no way is he as ignorant as Bush.

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07 May 07 - 04:17 PM (#2045431)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Riginslinger

"Now Americans can stop calling french fries, freedom fries."


                     That's embarrassing.

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07 May 07 - 06:57 PM (#2045583)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Lonesome EJ

That got a lot of press, but nobody in the US calls them anything but "french fries" or, more popularly, "fries".

We tend to think the French are snobbish and insulting. We like their wine. They tend to think we are crude and aggressive. They like our whiskey. I don't think Sarkozy will change that. Bottom line is we are both democracies with much more in common with each other than our differences might imply. With Sarkozy coming in and Bush going out, I'm hopeful France and the US will have a new chapter of good relations.

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07 May 07 - 07:29 PM (#2045600)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Riginslinger

"With Sarkozy coming in and Bush going out, I'm hopeful France and the US will have a new chapter of good relations."


                   The problem with all that is, we've still got another year-and-a-half with Bush.

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07 May 07 - 08:29 PM (#2045647)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: McGrath of Harlow

A French Bush? No. Sarkozy may be a jerk - well, he clearly is a jerk - but he's not an embarrassing buffoon.

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07 May 07 - 08:32 PM (#2045650)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Stilly River Sage

I switched to French wine when Bush started his nonsense. Maybe I'll drink more Italian, German, and Spanish for a while, see how it goes.

SRS

Peace: only four?

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08 May 07 - 07:57 AM (#2045990)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: beardedbruce

"And where Royal won by almost 3 to 2 among public-sector workers (she also carried students and the unemployed), she lost private-sector workers (as well as the retired). The left can't win without a better showing among workers in the private economy.

In fact, Royal's biggest problem was reflected in another Ipsos finding: While 42 percent of her voters said their ballots were aimed primarily at keeping Sarkozy out of the presidency, only 18 percent of Sarkozy's voters said they cast negative ballots against Royal. The left is in trouble when its campaigns are based more on anxiety about the right than on the hopes that progressives inspire."

from http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/07/AR2007050701223.html

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08 May 07 - 08:26 AM (#2046014)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: bubblyrat

I don"t know what all the fuss is about !! For years, France, like the United Kingdom, has suffered terribly under Socialist governments, with many problems being exacerbated by, if not actually caused by, uncontrolled immigration and the frightening increase in the numbers of government-employed "civil servants " ( Little Hitlers,as we call them here ). If France has, in M.Sarkozy, a strong,determined,self-assured leader who is genuinely able to address some of these problems, and effect a change, for the better, for all the people of France, then I for one will give three cheers !! ( whilst fervently hoping for such a leader here in England !! ). In case anyone is still wondering---SOCIALISM DOESN"T WORK !!! OK ??

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08 May 07 - 08:50 AM (#2046037)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Richard Bridge

Whereas, under Thatcherwasm, it was people who didn't work.

Bubblyrat, you embarrass yourself. Or at least you should.

And for the benefit of the ignorant above, whisk(e)y is Scottish or Irish. The stuff Americans make from rye is Glen Catspey.

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08 May 07 - 10:13 AM (#2046123)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: redsnapper

It est un vrai branleur!

MALPT!

RS

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09 May 07 - 05:42 AM (#2046844)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Grab

Socialist government? Not seen one of those in the UK since the 1970s...

Having said that, they *are* in the same position the UK was before Thatcher, and in the same position the US partly is. Unionisation *can* work if the unions recognise that if the business doesn't make money, they go under and everyone's out on the street. Unions in the US and France still haven't figured that out, and the governments of both countries are busy tapdancing to try and prop up their failing, over-unionised heavy industries.

Graham.

PS. SRS, wine-wise you're mostly wasting money on French and German. Argentinian and Chilean are much better for the money, and Australian if you like Shiraz.

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09 May 07 - 02:04 PM (#2047160)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: McGrath of Harlow

"the same position the UK was before Thatcher" - those were pretty good times, looking back. Far better than what followed. "Winter of discontent" was a good phrase, but it even that brief enough episode conmpared pretty favourably against the decades of despair - and against a corruption of private and public life which has largely carried over into the Blair years.

And if anyone thinks that President Chirac is on the left of politics they are pretty clearly pretty out of touch. Unless they think Bush is on the left.

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09 May 07 - 02:13 PM (#2047164)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Amos

B'rat,

When you say "Socialism doesn't work", what kind and degree of socialism are you thinking about? For example, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway, are all more "socialist" than, say, the U.S., but they seem to be doing all right. Do you think that --for example -- Social Security systems don't work? How about government-sponsored interstate highways? Federal Air services?

That's an awfully large portmanteau of a word to dismiss in one sentence.


A

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09 May 07 - 02:33 PM (#2047178)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: McGrath of Harlow

And France ain't perfect, but it's still a pretty good country to live in. Better than most in all kind of ways.

And I think it's about time for some kind of apologies for all the insults that were hurled at France from across the Atlantic when they tried to stop the USA and its hangers on from making a terrible mistake over Iraq.

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09 May 07 - 06:03 PM (#2047334)
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From: GUEST

Hooray! Vive la France.

DougR

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09 May 07 - 06:24 PM (#2047355)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: dianavan

France is a great country. Life is good for most. The statistic I like the best is:

Working week
US: approx 46 hours. France: usually 35 hours

Wouldn't that be great!

Seems to me they have more holidays, as well.

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09 May 07 - 07:08 PM (#2047400)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: McGrath of Harlow

Yes indeed - from that article: "There is something called making "le pont", which means that if a national holiday falls in the middle of the week, French workers will take off enough days before or after it to extend it all the way to the nearest weekend. Not since Edward Heath's three-day week have the British managed to work so little. And there is none of this American rubbish of two weeks' leave a year in France either: Paris, in particular, is massively depopulated from Bastille Day (July 14) until September as the French head off for at least two months of well-earned eating, drinking, romancing and dozing.

And that's not counting those public holidays that don't fall in that summer period.

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09 May 07 - 09:09 PM (#2047488)
Subject: RE: BS: France elects a french GWB
From: Lonesome EJ

"And for the benefit of the ignorant above, whisk(e)y is Scottish or Irish. The stuff Americans make from rye is Glen Catspey."

I don't know about Cat's pee but the stuff we make from corn is whiskey, and the best of it is Bourbon Whiskey, which more than holds its own against the Scotch and Irish stuff. We haven't made much rye whiskey here since the whiskey rebellion pushed whiskey distilling out of the Eastern Seaboard and into the limestone water and corn-rich country of Kentucky.

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