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BS: Poor Paris back behind bars

08 Jun 07 - 04:29 PM (#2071691)
Subject: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,Bob

Paris Hilton was escorted from a courtroom and sent back to jail today after a judge ruled that she must serve out her entire 45-day sentence behind bars rather than in her Hollywood Hills home.

My hear bleeds for her.

"It's not right!" shouted Hilton, who violated her parole in a reckless driving case. "Mom!" she called out to her mother in the audience, get me out of here.

Why should this "Lady of the night" think she should receive special treatment ?

Celebrates seem to think there should be a different law for them.

At the end of the day who is she ? A spoilt little girl who lives off family handouts.

Right all together after three, "The last time I saw Paris".

08 Jun 07 - 04:30 PM (#2071692)
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From: John MacKenzie

She certainly has about as much grasp on reality as GWB, and he's not locked up [yet]
Giok

08 Jun 07 - 04:49 PM (#2071702)
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From: Maryrrf

I don't usually follow stuff like this but couldn't help chuckling at some of the pics of spoiled little Paris weeping and crying over the injustice of it all! Maybe someday she'll develop some sense of proportion and realize that 45 days or whatever it was supposed to be in a posh section of jail is not the worst thing that could happen - by a long shot! Especially since she'll never have to worry about applying for a job and having to explain away a prison record.

08 Jun 07 - 05:07 PM (#2071719)
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From: alanabit

It is extremely rare to see the full power of the law being enforced against a rich person for endangering other peoples' lives in a car. It is no less gratifying for all that. If it injects a little reality and maturity into her life, it may actually be doing her a favour in the long term. Most super rich people usually get away with what she did. That is probably why she feels a little aggrieved at being punished for it.

08 Jun 07 - 05:11 PM (#2071723)
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From: Stilly River Sage

Hell, she's be more popular and in demand than ever after 45 days in the Hooskow.

It sounds like that quick detour home was an attempt at an end-run around her sentence, whether she perpetrated it or a jail or sheriff's office person was responsible. If she'd stayed put she'd have been out in three weeks.

SRS

08 Jun 07 - 05:12 PM (#2071724)
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From: GUEST,mg

I think certainly, unless there is something we don't know, like she is another TB carrier or whatever...she should have served the reduced sentence at least. I don't think it is fair to her to bring back the original sentence of 45 days..and the sheriff seems remiss in a couple of areas..but again there could be facts we don't know. I was hoping it was going to be a day for justice in America..but I think the pendulum swung too far and they shouldn't have reinstituted the original sentence unless she did something awful in the meantime...she does certainly seem to have mental problems...if she didn't she should be told to put on her big girl panties and deal with it but since she is disturbed..I don't know...but she should not have a license for a really long time.

08 Jun 07 - 05:16 PM (#2071727)
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From: Peace

But, who will do her nails?

08 Jun 07 - 05:18 PM (#2071730)
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From: Rapparee

But...but...poor little Paris has A Medical Condition that prohibits her from serving jail time! This innocent little lamb has been tossed into a mob of...of...commoners, of people who are simply nobodies! Without the papparrazi...papera...reporters! Without regard for her Medical Condition! (which I think is terminal narcissism complicated by acute immaturity).

08 Jun 07 - 05:24 PM (#2071733)
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From: Rapparee

The judge was told that the papers regarding her medical condition were going to be sent over by an Undersheriff at the jail. No papers ever arrived. If they exist someone has blundered...but there seems to be little proof of their existence.

As they say, "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime."

My brother mailed my nephew's license back to the State last week because the kid had been found driving with a blood alcohol level of 0.011; earlier he'd been driving with a level of 0.010. The kid's not happy about it, but he accepts his punishment and knows that he'll be without a licenses for 180 days.

If you can't do the time....

08 Jun 07 - 05:28 PM (#2071739)
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From: GUEST,meself

Sure does feel good to have someone to mock and sneer at, doesn't it?

08 Jun 07 - 05:31 PM (#2071741)
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From: Rapparee

No, what would make me feel good is if more "celebrities" that break the law would get the same penalty others would if arrested for the same thing. It's called "Equal justice under the law" and having it would make me feel great!

08 Jun 07 - 05:31 PM (#2071742)
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From: Richard Bridge

She merits anything else?

08 Jun 07 - 05:32 PM (#2071748)
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From: Liz the Squeak

She's allergic to wearing orange. And it makes her ass look big.

LTS

08 Jun 07 - 05:34 PM (#2071751)
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From: Little Hawk

How about that, "meself"? Yeah...for some people, it's Paris Hilton. For others, it's Bob Dylan. Everyone wants someone else to blame for their own dissatisfaction with life, I guess. ;-)

08 Jun 07 - 06:21 PM (#2071778)
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From: Rapparee

Yeah, I go around dissing all the time. Just today I've dissed Bob Dylan (of course), Paris Hilton, The Sopranos, George W. Bush, Princes Charles, Ottumwa (Iowa), the weather, Tutankamen, the Mayor, banjos, and the Union Pacific Railroad.

08 Jun 07 - 06:29 PM (#2071787)
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From: Little Hawk

Bob Dylan makes a supergood target for dissing. He's very famous. Bing! He's rich. Bing! Many people think he is a genius. Bing! He's been a huge success. Bing! He "sold out". Bing! My, how people love to hate Bob...

Then there's George Bush. Hoo, boy.....

08 Jun 07 - 06:35 PM (#2071789)
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From: McGrath of Harlow

Who will be playing her in the movie they'll presumably be making about all this? I suppose she could play herself, but it wouldn't be too convincing.

Especially since movies like that always have to be about how the Poor Little Rich Girl gets turned around and greatly improved by their time inside with real people.

08 Jun 07 - 06:38 PM (#2071790)
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From: GUEST,meself

"She merits anything else?"

Hmmm ... I really don't know, to tell you the truth. Until she started being mentioned, for reasons I still don't understand, on our national news service, I thought she was a hotel in France. What she merits or doesn't merit, I don't know, and couldn't care less. Obviously, I'm in the minority here.

08 Jun 07 - 06:40 PM (#2071792)
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From: Don Firth

Yup. Lotsa great rôle models out there. . . .

Don Firth

08 Jun 07 - 07:23 PM (#2071813)
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From: Bill D

Big news conference with the sheriff...HE says she has mental problems and no one told him when they they sent her to him. He says she was supposed to have drugs, and no one sent them. He says the jails are HORRIBLY overcrowded with folks that are real dangers to the community....

and then he says that the judge is the boss, and they will keep Paris as best they can until ordered otherwise.

I suspect the sheriff might have some insight in the matter.

I'm offering 25¢ that says she does NOT serve the whole sentence.

08 Jun 07 - 07:24 PM (#2071814)
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From: Rapparee

Actually, meself, I also thought she was a hotel. It wasn't until MUCH later that I found out that it was a person.

The comic strip "Luann" had one of the characters take the name "Sheraton St. Louis," which I thought was a wonderful stroke of satire.

08 Jun 07 - 07:26 PM (#2071816)
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From: gnu

Well she is a roll model, from what I have heard.

08 Jun 07 - 07:29 PM (#2071818)
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From: Bill D

She IS a spoiled little twit that has no idea how life really works...but she 'may' also have instability problems. Something sure needs to be done, but 23 days in jail is not likely to cure her.

IF she gets out, she should have a complete medical/psych workup.

08 Jun 07 - 07:33 PM (#2071823)
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From: GUEST,meself

Funny, someone was telling me I should have one of them kinda things just the other day.

08 Jun 07 - 07:42 PM (#2071834)
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From: katlaughing

meself, I agree. I don't condone anything she has done, but I think it is sad to see so many taking potshots at someone they don't even know. It's so easy to point fingers, isn't it?

08 Jun 07 - 07:49 PM (#2071837)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,meself

As I say, I don't know anything about her - but she strikes me as more pathetic than anything else ...

08 Jun 07 - 07:54 PM (#2071842)
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From: Cruiser

As a former law enforcement officer, what the sheriff did was unconscionable and he should be held in contempt of court. A double standard is the death knell of the judicial system. The judge did an exemplary job and should be commended for delivering justice. Superior Court judges are not well compensated for their duties and the ones I have known were honest, hard working jurists that could make a huge salary in private practice. I admire men and women who do such jobs for the good of society at substantial personal monetary loss.

This judge's example will send a strong message and, in at least a small way, it will help restore some trust in the judicial ethic of equal justice for all.

08 Jun 07 - 08:00 PM (#2071845)
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From: McGrath of Harlow

but she 'may' also have instability problems.

In common with a lot of people in prison. Probably true that that's not the right place for them either.

The truth is having lots of money buys people special treatment and special privileges in all situations.

08 Jun 07 - 08:34 PM (#2071858)
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From: retrancer

i say she makes bank with her prison women video series

08 Jun 07 - 08:45 PM (#2071862)
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From: JohnInKansas

Maybe it's just my own strange sense of humor, but I had to chuckle at a columnist who pointed out (presumedly correctly) that she will be unable to have access to anything but a prison-issued comb for "cosmetic maintenance" during her 45 days. No makeup. No razor.

and (quote)

"She's gonna be really hairy when she gets out."

I suppose it's just the absurdity that something so trivial is worth mentioning, but probably is, to her, a real tragedy.

John

08 Jun 07 - 08:48 PM (#2071864)
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From: Ebbie

Things were slow at the office today so I followed some links on the internet.

They said that one day is taken off the sentence for every four days of 'good' behavior in jail so assuming her behavior improves she should be out in no time, so to speak.

By the way, it also commented on the sheriff's citing the overcrowded jail- but pointed out that she was in a 'special needs' unit and did NOT have a cellmate. Her section was not full.

My guess is that she thought jail would be kind of fun and gave up that notion fairly quickly.

As far as piling on someone in trouble, I see nothing unusual in it. As in-your-face as she has been the last few years she could expect nothing less.

The hotel(s), of course, are named after her family. I've never bothered to check on who her father is but I know that Elizabeth Taylor's first husband, Nicky Hilton, was/is? one of the family also.

08 Jun 07 - 09:53 PM (#2071890)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,meself

"As far as piling on someone in trouble, I see nothing unusual in it."

No, there is nothing unusual in it, is there?

"As in-your-face as she has been the last few years she could expect nothing less."

Of course not.

There must be something wrong with me, that I don't feel the urge to join in. Sorry.

08 Jun 07 - 09:58 PM (#2071894)
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From: Ebbie

Then don't. No problem.

08 Jun 07 - 10:03 PM (#2071897)
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From: Don Firth

Nicky Hilton (Conrad Nicholson Hilton Jr.) is Paris Hilton's great uncle. Married twice (first wife, Elizabeth Taylor), basically drank himself to death, died at age 42.

Initially, Paris Hilton, age 26, was one of these people who is famous for being famous. Money can do that. She has tried writing, modeling, acting (TV, movies), singing, and even did a sex video with her (then) boy friend. No Pulitzer, no modeling career, and generally not considered to be Oscar, Emmy, or Grammy material. Has tried designing purses, jewelry, and perfume; lent her name to a chain of "Club Paris" nightclubs, but blew the deal (was fired) when she neglected to show up for a series of promotional engagements. Was spokesperson for an organization trying to encourage young people to vote, then bounced when it was discovered that not only had she never bothered to vote, she hadn't even registered to vote. Engaged several times, twice to Greek shipping millionaires. Never "officially" married.

Arrested in September 2006 for DUI. She pleaded no contest to a reckless driving charge and was fined $1500, sentenced to 36 months' probation, and her drivers' license was suspended. On February 27, 2007, Hilton was caught driving 70 mph. in a 35 mph. zone (license still suspended). In addition, she did not have her headlights on, even though it was after dark.

Hence, her present predicament.

Well, what is she qualified for her? What does the future hold for her?

What else! President of the United States.

Don Firth

08 Jun 07 - 10:34 PM (#2071902)
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From: GUEST,mg

What frightens me is that we are raising, apparently, many exceptions of course, such weak young people..how are they going to face what they might have to face when they can't do a few weeks in rehab or 25 or so days in a private jail cell...maybe they are exceptions...this is a grown woman..not a 15 year old...this was not life without parole in a Turkish prison with scorpions climbing the walls...well, I shall just assume she has some disability, which she must have..but there seems to be a flock of them..and that is just the women...mg

08 Jun 07 - 11:32 PM (#2071922)
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From: John O'L

I felt sorry for Paris when that so-called comedian humiliated her with her so-called jokes at that award ceremony recently. If it had been funny it might have been different, but the jokes were not funny, and she disgraced herself more than Paris in my opinion.

This jail thing though, this really is funny. I'm looking forward to her next TV series "The Simple Life - Eat This, Bitch"

08 Jun 07 - 11:49 PM (#2071926)
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From: Bonecruncher

Is this the same Paris Hilton who flashed her fanny for "private entertainment" with her boyfriend and then, her left hand not knowing what her righrt hand was doing, syndicated the film around the world while at the same time "trying to stop publication"?

Perhaps while in prison she might find herself attractive to others. She had better be careful not to bend down if she drops the soap in the shower!

Colyn.

09 Jun 07 - 01:25 AM (#2071945)
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From: GUEST

beauty doesn't last long but dumb is forever.

09 Jun 07 - 01:52 AM (#2071954)
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From: Dave Hanson

She does have two serious medical conditions which have baffled all the doctors, how she manages to remain upright without having a backbone, and how she functions at all without actually possessing a brain.

eric

09 Jun 07 - 03:50 AM (#2071991)
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From: John MacKenzie

The point is this, she courts publicity, and has this monstrous ego, so if she likes comments about her outrageous behaviour in night clubs and celeb's parties, she's got to take them when she behaves like a spoiled brat, and breaks the law.
I can't imagine some little Sharon or Chardonnay from the council estate or trailer park getting either the publicity or the consideration from the forces of law and order that this daft bitch has had.
Giok

09 Jun 07 - 04:15 AM (#2072006)
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From: Backwoodsman

Absolutely on the button Giok, you are correct.
She behaves like a twat, she should expect to be treated like a twat and not complain when it happens. And I'd hold exactly the same view if she WAS Chardonnay from the council estate. One rule for everybody, regardless of who you are or where you're from. It's a basic tenet of Law.

09 Jun 07 - 06:50 AM (#2072049)
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From: GUEST,jOhn

people are feel sorry for her, but she was done for drink driving then banned, then drove anyway while banned, so shes got no respect for the law. and wehn they throw her in jail she starts crying!

serves her right, they should shoot her.

09 Jun 07 - 07:26 AM (#2072056)
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From: jacqui.c

I agree with jOhn except, perhaps, about the shooting bit.

I wasn't even aware of what she had done to be incarcerated until I read Don's post above. On that basis she deserves exactly what she is getting. As for having 'special needs' there is enough money in that family to have given her the best care possible for those 'special needs', before she broke the law and endangered lives - twice.

I'll reserve my sympathy for all those people with problems that they can't afford to remedy and who don't get the kind of special treatment being meted out to this rather worthless young woman.

It would be nice to think that a few days inside would make her think about the direction her life is going in and maybe to start using her money and fame to make a difference, even in a small way.

I don't think that we are raising a weak generation. There are plenty of stories of 'ordinary' kids doing extraordinary things for others that give hope for the kids coming up today.

09 Jun 07 - 08:52 AM (#2072080)
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From: Midchuck

What, exactly, has she been or done to merit anyone giving a damn about her either pro or con? A good number of people are rich. A great number of people drive drunk or under the influence of drugs. A great number of women are pretty in a shallow way. A great number of women dress like high-priced floozies. But none of the others get all this publicity.

What am I missing here?

Peter.

09 Jun 07 - 09:01 AM (#2072085)
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From: Sorcha

I am not dissing the girl, but she has done NOTHING to be acclaimed for. I'm tired of hearing about little miss nothing. So? She screwed up. She cried! She wants her mommy! How many other kids out there want the same thing?

Sorry, chickadee, a screw up is a screw up. No, GROW up. Try and do something worthwhile with your life and money for somebody else instead of just being a spoilt brat.

09 Jun 07 - 09:10 AM (#2072089)
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From: GUEST,meself

"What, exactly, has she been or done to merit anyone giving a damn about her either pro or con?"

That's what I've been wondering. Maybe someone who feels so strongly about her will chime in with an answer ...

09 Jun 07 - 09:14 AM (#2072092)
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From: Alice

She hasn't done anything to "MERIT" attention. She does scandalous and outrageous things to ATTRACT attention.

09 Jun 07 - 09:25 AM (#2072099)
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From: Alice

Salon article - "symbol of depravity of our times"
http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2007/06/09/paris/

09 Jun 07 - 09:26 AM (#2072101)
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From: Sorcha

I stopped paying attn long ago. She was apparently raised (if you can use that word?) with NO sense of responsibility at all. Now, why is that familiar?

Only thing different is that she and the family have the money to bury it deep. Til now.

09 Jun 07 - 09:35 AM (#2072104)
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From: Alice

She still thinks driving drunk was nothing wrong - "it's not fair", she wails.
Sometimes young people are given a "wake-up" call by taking them to the morgue to see
victims of crime or car crashes, or video of the carnage of drunk driving accidents.
Unfortunately, Paris is an adult who has never been held responsible for her actions.
She has only profited from her bad behavior... until now... but this will eventually
bring her more money from celebrity deals.

The Salon article I linked to is very good.

09 Jun 07 - 10:01 AM (#2072121)
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From: frogprince

"She's gonna be really hairy when she gets out."
And if she doesn't get a shave before the next time she gets out of a car in a microskirt without panties, the whole world will get to see the pictures. How embarassing for the poor girl. : }

09 Jun 07 - 10:04 AM (#2072125)
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From: Sorcha

I don't know just who her 'audience' is that does care, but from what I'm hearing locally, even from the kids, is that this time the golden apple may have just gone plonk. Everybody I know is just fed UP with her and her antics.

09 Jun 07 - 10:19 AM (#2072134)
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From: Alice

Wasn't it Britney Spears who went out without the panties? I don't know, that crowd of air-heads are all trying to be Paris clones.

09 Jun 07 - 10:24 AM (#2072139)
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From: saulgoldie

While the news media has given over so much of its precious airtime (which actually belongs to THE PEOPLE!!) or column inches to this story, REAL news is going by the wayside. This phenomenon keeps us uninformed and unable to be properly informed citizens. We should be wringing the media's neck for giving the story so much attention in lieu of the important stories of the day.

Saul

09 Jun 07 - 10:24 AM (#2072140)
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From: AWG

I for one, feel sympathy for Paris Hilton. Why can't the public, and the law, just get off her back ? The answer is simple, Jealosy ! Nobody gets jail time for what she did, heck, some pedophiles and axe murderers dont even spend one night in jail ! Just another example of the public lashing out at the rich and successful (and beautiful) people among us. I say let her go, and with an apology to boot. Anyone agree ?

09 Jun 07 - 10:26 AM (#2072141)
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From: katlaughing

Well-said, Midchuck.

I am really surprised at the outright mean pettiness on this thread. I do NOT condone anything she has done and I do NOT dispute her sentence for drunk driving. I don't like the crowd mentally that keeps kicking while someone is down, esp. when one considers the negative energy it takes to keep doing so.

09 Jun 07 - 10:44 AM (#2072149)
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From: Alice

Well, my parents and aunt were killed by a wreckless driver, so I don't think anyone
who drives carelessly or when drinking should have their actions minimized or excused.

09 Jun 07 - 10:45 AM (#2072150)
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From: Mrrzy

I wasn't following the case, but when I heard about them literally dragging her rich white over-privileged and under-responsible ass away, I actually LedOL. What a difference from the OJ case.

09 Jun 07 - 10:49 AM (#2072152)
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From: Mickey191

I truly don't give a hoot about Miss Hilton-BUT wasn't there a big foul up as far as the law & it's application goes? She was in the wrong - ok. She was sentenced to 45 days-ok. Her sentenced was reduced to 23 days - ok. She served 3 days -ok. She is sent home under house arrest - ok.

Then they do a complete reversal and grab her, send her back to jail with the original 45 days tacked back on! Sounds like the law was operating while ability impaired. Between the judge & the sheriff pulling rank on eachother the law is made to look like an ass!

Think I'd call for Momma too!

09 Jun 07 - 10:57 AM (#2072159)
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From: AWG

People talk about Paris Hilton constantly, mostly negatively, but who wouldn't want to BE her ? I think Giok, Eric the Red, and Sorcha would all jump at the chance. (especially Giok). And Katlaughing is apparently a closet Paris Hilton fan.

09 Jun 07 - 10:59 AM (#2072160)
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From: Alice

Her family announced they were going to have a big party for her house arrest.
They are all acting as if her drunk driving and breaking probation should have no consequences except... party on!
They have no shame, no sense of responsiblity.

just noticed my typo wreckless... that should be reckless.

09 Jun 07 - 11:01 AM (#2072161)
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From: Alice

AWG you must be kidding. If you're not, your moral compass is seriously defective.

09 Jun 07 - 11:07 AM (#2072166)
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From: Stilly River Sage

Paris in tears.

This isn't like O.J., she was lucky that she didn't hurt anyone with her irresponsible acts. But when you look at celebrity "justice," it makes the O.J. case all the more obscene--he didn't do a day for murdering two people and this twit at least got 45 days.

She thinks she is entitled to special treatment because that is what she has received all along. There would be a lot more sympathy for her if she had a genuine sense of proportion.

SRS

09 Jun 07 - 11:21 AM (#2072177)
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From: Bill D

I still bet 25¢ she is out in a few days. Where she will BE is another issue. She obviously should NOT be turned loose to keep doing what she has been doing.

Some of you are just reacting to behavior & lifestyle that you despise (as I do) and not following the overall situation in regard to what the court and the sheriff should be doing about the situation. 45...or 23...days in 'jail' will do no good, and will be a burden on the county as they try to keep her isolated when they already have little space.

Paris needs her silly little ego cut down to size...by experts in these matters. She flatly does not comprehend why all this is happening to her....jail won't make her see it.

09 Jun 07 - 11:25 AM (#2072179)
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From: bobad

Perhaps the court should sentence her to getting an education.

09 Jun 07 - 11:26 AM (#2072180)
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From: Stilly River Sage

I say send Paris Hilton to spend 45 days with Dolly Parton. Dolly understands all of the fashion and cosmetic issues, but her feet are firmly on the ground and I dare say she could give little Paris a good introduction to social responsibility.

SRS

09 Jun 07 - 11:31 AM (#2072183)
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From: SINSULL

re: her sentence. It is actually the standard sentence for drunk driving in that county. It can be cut down to 23 by good behavior and service.

09 Jun 07 - 11:33 AM (#2072188)
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From: GUEST,Bob

I have to agree with you Stilly River Sage. And I would like to share the cell with both of them !

09 Jun 07 - 11:36 AM (#2072189)
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From: Big Al Whittle

I kept getting these e-mails about Paris Hilton at one time. I assumed it was the hotel that was trying to flog me a cheap deal.

Its awful getting old.

09 Jun 07 - 11:38 AM (#2072190)
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From: Little Hawk

By golly, this thread is getting almost as wild as Paris Hilton's lifestyle... ;-)

AWG, I agree with your general point about Paris Hilton. I agree that people are indulging in their own meanness and sadistic glee in kicking her when she's down, maybe because they resent the fact that she's rich and they're not? And that the press is gleefully indulging in their usual cynical opportunistic feeding frenzy which pretends to be a public service, but is anything but!

However....you said something that surprised me. You said: "People talk about Paris Hilton constantly, mostly negatively, but who wouldn't want to BE her ?"

Say what? Are you serious????? LOL! Look, man, I would not want to be her. I mean, really... It would just be weird. I can't imagine putting up with the idiotic stuff she has dealt with and done for the past few years. Doesn't appeal to me at all. Uh-uh. Let someone else take on that job, I say.

I can think of a few famous people that it would be cool to be, but Paris isn't one of them.

Let's see. Patrick Stewart. Diana Rigg. The Dalai Lama. Johnny Depp. Winona Ryder prior to the shoplifting episode...

But not Paris Hilton or Brittney Spears. No frikkin' way.

09 Jun 07 - 11:44 AM (#2072195)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: jacqui.c

Maybe a better sentence would have been to have her doing menial work in an A&E department so that she could see the result of both drunk driving and of reckless driving. I would say that would be my idea for anyone convicted of those offences, rich or poor.

I certainly wouldn't want to be her and I'm glad that my kids grew up wanting. Too many of these highly priviledged children seem to go off the rails because they have nothing to strive for. Maybe there's a lack of parental responsibility at the bottom of it - throw money at the kids rather than the love and attention that they need.

I certainly agree that the officers of the law in this case have not helped. Not knowing enough about the case to comment on who was in the wrong all I would say is that Hilton appears to have had a great deal of contempt for the law if, after being convicted of DUI, she a) drove without a license, b) was driving at more than twice the posted speed limit and c) was driving without lights. Her actions were irresponsible and downright dangerous and I would say that anyone who did that should have to take the consequences of their actions.

The difference between this and the OJ case is that a jury brought back a verdict of not guilty against OJ - rightly or wrongly. The law in that case had no option than to let him go. That was down to that particular jury, not the authorities. In this case Hilton was convicted and needs to accept that she must serve her time.

The old saw of 'if you can't do the time don't do the crime' is quite apt here - Hilton, in particular has even less excuse (if anyone can have such a thing) for both drunk driving and driving without a license, in that she has the money to employ a driver to take her wherever she wishes to go. The fact that she obviously considered herself to be above the law says it all.

Quite frankly, the exploits of the society crowd don't really interest me at all. What concerns me is the attitude that they are untouchable when they have brush with the law, particularly when their antics run the risk of hurting other people. At that point I do consider that we all have a right to an opinion, but I would feel the same way about anyone who behaved in this way.

09 Jun 07 - 11:46 AM (#2072197)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Sorcha

Nope nope nope. Don't wanna be her, don't even want her bloody money. I'm happy being just me.

09 Jun 07 - 12:13 PM (#2072211)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: katlaughing

...I don't think anyone who drives carelessly or when drinking should have their actions minimized or excused.

Nor do I, Alice. I am in complete agreement as to the actual breaking of the law and the consequences, and I DO think she should have to serve real time just as any other offender would do.

I am just surprised at the petty carping going on in this thread. It is so negative and sounds, sometimes, like a bunch of jealous malcontents. Just my opinion of what I have read here.

09 Jun 07 - 12:34 PM (#2072223)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Ebbie

'Jealousy' as a concept has no bearing on this, imo. I would NEVER have wanted to be her and I would have moved heaven and earth to keep my daughter from being her.

She must never have heard the precept: From those given much, much is expected.

From the time a year or two ago that I saw Hilton come onto a TV show - it might have been The View- and get a standing ovation from the audience my eyebrows have been raised sky high. What on earth were they thinking?

09 Jun 07 - 01:39 PM (#2072252)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Little Hawk

It was probably on the cue card, Ebbie.

09 Jun 07 - 01:42 PM (#2072256)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Ebbie

lol You are probably right.

09 Jun 07 - 02:32 PM (#2072283)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Richard Bridge

Look, if I still bred dogs and bred one that behaved like that it would be culled.

09 Jun 07 - 02:42 PM (#2072284)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: katlaughing

I just meant it sounded like jealously to me, Ebbie, but not that you were.

09 Jun 07 - 02:55 PM (#2072289)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Ebbie

Understood, kat. :)

09 Jun 07 - 03:28 PM (#2072302)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JohnInKansas

I say send Paris Hilton to spend 45 days with Dolly Parton

Why punish Dolly for what Paris did?

I'm not interested enough to go back and check all the details, but what I remember (check for yourself if in doubt) is that:

1. She was arrested and convicted, and was placed on probation, which included suspension of her driving license.

2. She violated probation, and was arrested and convicted of reckless driving, driving without a license, and violations of probation, and was again placed on probation.

3. She was arrested and convicted of recless driving, driving under the influence, driving without a license, involved in an accident (she ran off the road) and probation violations and was sentenced to jail.

While in some cases, the jailers (i.e. the Sheriff) have the option of releasing a prisoner to various forms of "supervised release," in this case, the judge specifically ordered that this was not to happen. The endorsement by the judge, specifying NO PROBATION and NO RELEASE on the court record has been published.

Conclusions:

1. She was given multiple chances to get off relatively easily, and to be treated like "everyone else." This was a "third offense" in a very short period of time. This is the treatment "everyone else" likely would get under the same circumstances.

2. The Sheriff can't read a court order.

The thing that the citizens should be most concerned with perhaps is whether the prosecuter will follow through with his demand for a contempt hearing charging the Sheriff. The judge did indicate he was "thoroughly pissed," but thus far didn't seem inclined to pursue the contempt issue.

John

09 Jun 07 - 03:28 PM (#2072304)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,harpgirl

I agree with Jacqui c. :

"I would say is that Hilton appears to have had a great deal of contempt for the law if, after being convicted of DUI, she a) drove without a license, b) was driving at more than twice the posted speed limit and c) was driving without lights. Her actions were irresponsible and downright dangerous and I would say that anyone who did that should have to take the consequences of their actions."

This is the issue; plain and simple, no matter what her economic and social standing might be.

09 Jun 07 - 03:43 PM (#2072310)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Stilly River Sage

Hollywood has little love for jailed Paris Hilton
June 09, 2007

LOS ANGELES - Celebrities who fall on tough legal times can often rely on their fellow stars for support. Jodie Foster spoke out on Mel Gibson's behalf after his anti-Semitic tirade last summer. The cast of "The View" gave Alec Baldwin a place to explain his custody battle and an angry voicemail message he left for his 11-year-old daughter. Robert Downey, Jr., was welcomed with understanding and job offers after his multiple drug arrests.

But few Hollywood players have come out in support of Paris Hilton, who was sentenced to 45 days in jail for violating her probation in an alcohol-related reckless driving case. The 26-year-old surrendered to sheriff's deputies June 3 and was booked into a Lynwood jail. She was released to home confinement a few days later, then ordered back behind bars Friday.

A crowd of Hilton fans gathered outside the courthouse Friday where she learned her latest fate. But the hot, young showbiz set that Hilton hangs with has remained mum on the heiress' plight.

Usually "powerful people protect powerful people," said veteran Hollywood publicist Michael Levine.

"But in this case I don't see any rallying around her," he said. "She is a person who got into the famous club for nothing and I think there's some contempt around that."

Howard Bragman, a longtime publicist who runs the public-relations firm Fifteen Minutes, said Hilton doesn't have the "strong foundation of relationships in this town" that would motivate famous folks to stand behind her.

"Paris' career was made in a microwave and not in a crock pot," he said, adding that Hilton lacks the self-awareness that might inspire empathy from her colleagues. "You've got to understand and accept responsibility for yourself in order for people to rally around you," he said.

Before Hilton was sent back to jail Friday, comedian George Lopez called her brief stay behind bars "more like a spa treatment than an actual sentence. Celebrities get treated lightly by the judicial system," he said. "Wealthy and affluent and famous people get treated differently than anybody else."

Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca said Hilton did get special treatment because of her celebrity status: "She got more time in jail."

Host Sarah Silverman cracked a crude joke at Hilton's expense to open last Sunday's MTV Movie Awards at which the heiress made a surprise appearance. When the camera panned to Hilton, she was not smiling.

Hugh Hefner has been one of the few celebrities sympathetic to Hilton's situation. "I feel very badly for her," he said Thursday when asked about the heiress.

But Paris-pity or no, Hollywood seldom misses a promotional opportunity. ABC used the endless publicity surrounding Hilton's case to promote its new TV show, "Dirty Sexy Money." The show focuses on a fictional family, the Darlings - a wealthy clan not unlike the Hiltons.

The network placed full-page ads in the Los Angeles Times and the New York Post that read: "We love Paris. The Darling Family." An airplane towing a banner with the same message flew above the downtown courthouse Friday.

09 Jun 07 - 04:01 PM (#2072316)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Bill D

"2. The Sheriff can't read a court order."

One of the reports made it clear that the sheriff runs the jail and routinely makes decisions about the safety and status of inmates..including whether & when to terminate jail time in favor of 'house arrest' and other measures. He was evidently surprised to have THIS decision overturned due to the extreme interest in the case. He indicated that once he was told specifically that Paris was NOT to be released early, he would comply and keep her in jail until told otherwise. He said: (paraphrased)"We 'can' take care of her, but we sure aren't getting much help doing it."...referring to no one sending required meds with her.

Everyone is STILL assuming that this is a simple case of 'silly, spoiled brat who thinks the law doesn't apply to rich twits'...and the sheriff's office, who has 'some' experience in these things, thinks otherwise.
I repeat..on Monday, there will be MUCH discussion and legal maneuvering to decide exactly what the situation is, and whether sane justice is being imposed in this case....and that 25¢ still says that she will be transferred OUT of the jail to some other facility.

4-5 days ago, I was grinning at the prospect of spoiled, rich twit getting several weeks of comeuppance...now I am curious about just how much political expediency is involved....and who will ultimately be "The Decider".

09 Jun 07 - 04:08 PM (#2072324)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: coldjam

The thing that angers me is that this constitutes "news". They have glamorized this chick so that young girls actually aspire to be her!Vacuous, loose and rich. The great American dream girl! The rest of the country loves to watch someone idolized and then brought down, as entertainment. I guess it makes us feel better about ourselves somehow.(How?)

She's sure to be "in the news" the rest of her life, as America watches her grow old. But you can only keep the ravages of that kind of lifestyle from display for so long. One way or another it can't end well, and I'D rather not see it...I mean if anyone is taking a poll...

09 Jun 07 - 04:30 PM (#2072344)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: AWG

Putting Paris Hilton in jail is a joke. They are wasting YOUR tax dollars, and you applaud it !! Do you really think she is getting anything remotely close to hard time ? Please. I say give her a GOOD dose of community service, and forget the 'Club Fed'. Waste of money.

09 Jun 07 - 04:37 PM (#2072348)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,meself

"I just meant it sounded like jealously ... but not that you were. "

I'm with you there - I'm not saying anyone is jealous, either; I'm just saying that it really really really SOUNDS like jealousy ...

09 Jun 07 - 04:46 PM (#2072356)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Sorcha

I'm still waiting to see what the 'medical' condition is.....anti depressants? Uppers? Hunger strike over jail food? Aenorexia? Cocaine or meth? Look, LOTS of people in jail have 'medical' conditons....aka drug habits. I'm not saying she does, mind you but I'd like to know.

Now, you're all going to go nuts about 'privacy'. Well, privacy is as privacy does. She doesn't seem to want any, goes about publicly flaunting laws, and our son's 'medical condition' complete with meds was listed in the local paper while he was a juvenile behind bars.

Let's get real, Paris. Grow up. Deal with reality. I am NOT jealous of her life/style, nor do I have much sympathy for her. Never have. Never will.

Fella in the Wyo State pen has tried to play the get out of jail card because he has a 'medical condition'. Mr calls it thiefitis. Well, he does have testicular cancer. Didn't work for him.

Bottom line--pull your head out of your ass and behave. I'd say like a 'human' but I don't think that cuts it anymore. Try behaving like a dog. Works for me.

09 Jun 07 - 05:02 PM (#2072359)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Peter T.

I don't have to like Paris Hilton to feel desperately sorry for her. She is a lost troubled little girl, a lost soul in a world of media driven lost souls. She has been hit by reality like a train wreck, and I would think that however rich and stupid she is, she should be left in peace to deal with it. Everyone gleefully piling on her strikes me as at least as troubling: the superiority of it. I think the media is acting shamefully: it helped create her and is destroying her in this absurd feeding frenzy. She should be left in peace to deal with her problems and serve out her sentence.

yours,

Peter T.

09 Jun 07 - 07:27 PM (#2072439)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: heric

It's not funny and I don't think it's funny and I agree with all of you who see no good sport in demeaning her. In fact, I agree with those who feel sorry for her. But for those who thinks it's funny and only those - not those who don't think it's funny, there is this mildly amusing photo.

09 Jun 07 - 07:44 PM (#2072454)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Bee

Given how vacuous and aimless she seems to be, at least every time I've accidentally caught video of her, it wouldn't surprise me at all to find out she has some kind of life long personality disorder, which going to jail without meds may indeed have caught the sherriff's attention. The woman appears to have no friends: as noted above, the usual famous suspects are not interested in defending her.

I have known a number of children and adults with autism spectrum problems, and Paris has always reminded me of a fourteen year old girl I worked with who was similarly detached from the idea of reality impinging on whatever she wanted to do. That child also was unaffected by anyone else's needs, wishes, or responses, and she was very easily upset by being balked in the smallest way.

Other people with such disorders are quite different, of course, but that little girl's Asperger's (plus something else undiagnosed, I suspect)manifested in such a way as to make me think she's likely grown up very like Ms. Hilton, without the money.

Frankly, I think she needs a keeper.

09 Jun 07 - 07:46 PM (#2072456)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: kendall

I have no time for people like her, and even less time for the celebrety worshippers who hang on their every caper.
I was watching the republican debates when they broke in with this "Breaking News"! Breaking news? Give me a friggin' break!

09 Jun 07 - 08:41 PM (#2072499)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,dianavan

I actually do feel a little bit sorry for her. What chance did she have with a mother like Kathy Hilton? I have also noticed that her chipmunk cheeks seem to be getting worse every year. This is a sign of bulimia. Look it up. Guilt, depression and self-condemnation often accompany this horrible eating disorder.

Can you imagine the pressure she must be under? Wealth, in her family is a necessity. I doubt if her future inheritence amounts to much and she doesn't seem to have much luck with men. How else will she accumulate a fortune? She has no brains and no talent. She's going to have to use her face and body to the best of her ability while she still has it. Sad but true.

She's a symbol of a sick society that feeds on the bodies of young females. A sacrifice - the scapegoat?

09 Jun 07 - 09:12 PM (#2072520)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,harpgirl

It is a sad fact that most individuals do not receive the medical care they are in need of while incarcerated. A classification officer with a fine sense of morality once said to me, " People should be in prison "as punishment", not "to punish." I think he meant that once incarcerated they are punished further by being denied medical and psychiatric care in addition to the other brutalities inflicted on them in the prison system. We all own a share of the various outrages on this thread. It is the culture, society, and world we have created.

09 Jun 07 - 09:24 PM (#2072523)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Alice

When I was in my 20's, I was anorexic. When I look at Paris,
I see someone who looks like she is anorexic and/or bulimic.
Maybe being in jail and getting psychological and medical
evaluation will be the way this problem (if it is the problem)
will be addressed. There is a lot of denial that goes along with
anorexia. Especially in modeling and in the media, being super thin
means most likely starving to be that way. She does seem to need
psychological help, and with yes people and parasites around her,
this may be the ony way she will see reality.

09 Jun 07 - 10:04 PM (#2072554)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Big Mick

I see no point in piling on. The young lady made a choice to break the law. Then she lost her license and decided she was above the law and drove anyway. She got caught, and then decided to ignore the law again. This is the price one pays for behaviour of this sort.

The people who need a good ass kicking are her parents and the LA County Sheriff. The parents for instilling this idea that somehow they are better than the average riffraff, and the Sheriff for playing politics. I think releasing her and then reincarcerating her are grounds for legal action, and I would bet that case will be filed against LA County in short order.

I sincerely hope this experience causes self evaluation and a new outlook. I am not optimistic. If ever there was a poster model for the term "Enablor", Kathy Hilton is it.

Mick

09 Jun 07 - 10:10 PM (#2072560)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: katlaughing

Thanks, Peter T., for putting it so well.

09 Jun 07 - 11:19 PM (#2072601)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: fumblefingers

The Hilton camp likely had someone whisper in the Sheriff's ear that he'd better find a way to spring "sweet thing" from the pokey or he'd pay the price come the next election.

10 Jun 07 - 12:08 AM (#2072623)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,Art Thieme

I live in the county with the highest per capita alcoholism rate in ENTIRE USA--LaSalle County, Illinois. We beat out Dade County Florida for this honor. The list of police reports in our local newspaper are 90% DUI police stops of people already relieved of their drivers licenses, but driving anyway, and/or (10%) cars that hit deer. I don't know the answers. We tried prohibition and it didn't work. The least we can do to save lives around here would be to shoot all the deer.

Well, that'd be a start, I guess...

Art

10 Jun 07 - 03:04 AM (#2072666)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Captain Ginger

Who?
100!

10 Jun 07 - 05:29 AM (#2072722)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Folk Form # 1

"This innocent little lamb has been tossed into a mob of...of...commoners, of people who are simply nobodies! Without the papparrazi...papera...reporters! Without regard for her Medical Condition! (which I think is terminal narcissism complicated by acute immaturity)."
Rapaire, you are the new Mark Twain. Genius.

10 Jun 07 - 07:54 AM (#2072763)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: The Fooles Troupe

BREAKING NEWS

8 June 2007

UnFree Press: Paris Hilton landed straight back in prison after a judge determined that her Get Out of Jail Free card was a forgery. "I at no time condoned the actions of the sheriff and at no time told him I approved the actions" stated Superior Court Judge Michael T. Sauer, "clearly the card was not an official Los Angeles county get out of jail free card. It was from a Monopoly set. Not even a proper Monopoly set, but a Dogopoly set."

More...

10 Jun 07 - 09:58 AM (#2072826)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: AWG

She was pretty good in 'Wax Museum', what a way to go!! She needs a star on the walk of fame.

10 Jun 07 - 10:04 AM (#2072831)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Alba

Ms.Hilton has supposedly dropped her appeal and will serve her time!...hopefully with the same amount of attention than Jane/John Doe and others are receiving today that are in a similiar situation as Ms. Hilton at the moment

The lesson Ms Hilton is simple. Don't drink/take drugs and then drive and it is not a good idea to drive your car with a suspended licence and get stopped by the Police twice while on probation and for DUI Ms Hilton. You have more than enough $$$ to hire a fulltime sober Driver to whisk you around in what ever state you choose to get yourself into. By hiring a responsible driver you will save others from harm and give someone employment. That is a win win situation in my eyes.
Live and Learn Baby, Live and Learn.
Auntie Jude...*smile*

10 Jun 07 - 10:44 AM (#2072854)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Pistachio

RICH Paris back behind bars!

I've heard her 'illness' is claustrophobia so she's in a cell with glass walls - still don't know how much 'more' she can see.

I'd give her a project. Copy down the victims(injured and killed) names and ages and the number of family members 'left to pick up the pieces or left behind' after motor accidents within LA over the past month/year... and as in a previous post 'be escorted to (the morgue) or to the families to see and begin to comprehend the devastation her contempt COULD have led to.
(Whilst I realise she was 'caught' before having any accident, there has to be an understanding that her actions were WRONG and she should take her detention seriously.)

On the issue of house arrest I thought there would have been further restrictions - no visitors for example - giving her parents a chance to spend much needed time with their daughter. It is they who could have 'policed' a 'quiet time' within their own home - but to have Paris able to 'celebrate her release' with cupcakes and beauty therapists is an absolute nonsense to say nothing of 'Red rag to a bull' tabloid coverage

The most important message that remains un imaginable to 'the youth of today' is the consequence of their actions'.
I'd insist on this form of treatment for all ages of DUI - starting with this 'high profile (for reasons of Richness)' case.
H.

10 Jun 07 - 11:37 AM (#2072879)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Backwoodsman

I'm with you Hazel.

10 Jun 07 - 11:39 AM (#2072880)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Lin in Kansas

IMHO, Cruiser is the only one who has a logical grasp on the problem.

And Bill D., I'll double your quarter...

Lin

10 Jun 07 - 12:18 PM (#2072906)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Bill D

*grin*...well, we shall see. Anything can happen when publicity & politics get mixed.

10 Jun 07 - 12:51 PM (#2072923)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Alice

Who is Cruiser?

10 Jun 07 - 01:03 PM (#2072939)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Ebbie

Cruiser: June 8, 7:54 am.

10 Jun 07 - 01:05 PM (#2072940)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Cruiser

That would be me, ma'am.

If this article is factual, it illustrates another example of a flawed LA legal system.

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21883828-5001021,00.html

PARIS Hilton's billionaire grandfather donated money to the election campaign of the sheriff who released the 26-year-old from jail, it was revealed yesterday.

The contribution from William Barron Hilton, 78, co-chairman of the Hilton Hotel chain, to Sheriff Lee Baca's re-election campaign is revealed in financial records and a friend of the Hilton family said the temporary release of the heiress last week may have been a "quid pro quo".
"A member of her family has been a contributor to Baca's campaign and this may have been payback time," the friend said.

"Her entourage initially were confident she would be out of jail in a few days."

Sheriff Baca, who has faced heavy criticism for attempting to overrule the judge in the case, has in the past been accused of favouritism towards the Hollywood elite.

He was the officer at the centre of a row when he failed to report Mel Gibson's anti-Semitic tirade after the star was arrested for drink-driving. Gibson had filmed television advertisements for one of Sheriff Baca's pet causes – an education fund for policemen's children.

Celebrities including Sylvester Stallone and Dustin Hoffman have also backed the Sheriff's election campaigns since 1998.

10 Jun 07 - 01:09 PM (#2072941)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Alice

gee, I searched the user names on this thread and didn't see it.
Guess I was just searching this third page of the thread.

10 Jun 07 - 01:11 PM (#2072945)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Little Hawk

Is that sheriff a descendant of Elfego Baca, by any chance?

10 Jun 07 - 01:16 PM (#2072949)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Alice

Lin, (with all due respect to you Cruiser)
many of us on this thread agree with what Cruiser posted about the sheriff and the judge
and is not the ONLY one who has the logical grasp on the problem.

10 Jun 07 - 01:43 PM (#2072967)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Don Firth

Well, maybe the little ditz has inadvertantly served some good purpose after all, if this incident has exposed a corrupt public official.

Don Firth

10 Jun 07 - 01:53 PM (#2072975)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,Art Thieme

All the deer are now dead. The hunters rose to the occasion. Many lives of drunk drivers will now be saved here in Illinois. If at first you don't suck seed...

Art

10 Jun 07 - 02:05 PM (#2072991)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Cruiser

Quid pro quo and the double standard unfortunately occur in law enforcement more often than you might think. I have seen the unethical double standard happen, when fellow officers violated the very crimes they took an oath to uphold, were unpunished, without even a verbal reprimand by their supervisors, then cited citizens afterward for lesser crimes than the officer had violated. Quid pro quo occurs when an office stops a friend, an acquaintance, or a public official (Commissioner, County Attorney, etc.) and the person brings up their status. Statements similar to, hey, I am on your side and if you let me go this time I will put in a good word for you; or we are friends, aren't we (implying loss of friendship if a citation is issued). The worst example is when a fellow officer "displays" his law enforcement credentials, such as his badge, and says, I am one of you and I would let you go if I caught a violation by you in my jurisdiction.

Justice is not fair and that is why I admire what the judge did. He also knows people in law enforcement are not always "legally perfect" and if there were legal standing, I would want him to pursue the contempt of court issue against the sheriff to send a message to the L.A. legal system that his reasonable meted out justice will not be tampered with.

If you know of an ethical, honest law enforcement officer, or judge, who would never violate laws he swore to uphold nor would he apply the double standard or accept quid pro quo, similar to the fine judge in this case, then applaud that man or woman because the standards of justice they represent are incrementally vanishing.

10 Jun 07 - 02:08 PM (#2072994)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Cruiser

"violated the very laws they took an oath to uphold"

10 Jun 07 - 02:11 PM (#2072996)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Peace

Bien dit!

10 Jun 07 - 04:06 PM (#2073074)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Alice

The Chicago Sun Times has a good article on Paris today,
ending with:

"Maybe this will indeed make her stronger. Otherwise she relegates herself to a role straight out of F. Scott Fitzgerald.

"They were careless people, Tom and Daisy -- they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness, or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made," he wrote.

Maybe the jail library has a copy of The Great Gatsby Paris could read to pass the time."

10 Jun 07 - 04:09 PM (#2073077)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Peace

Maybe someone could read it to her . . . .

10 Jun 07 - 04:15 PM (#2073079)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Don Firth

Spot on, Alice! Fitzgerald said in in a nutshell.

Don Firth

10 Jun 07 - 04:34 PM (#2073098)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Big Phil

Who gives a damn about P.H.

10 Jun 07 - 06:26 PM (#2073180)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,meself

Quite a number of Mudcatters, apparently ...

10 Jun 07 - 08:27 PM (#2073260)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Alice

Reading a related news story online today, I came across a new word I had not seen before:
"heirhead".

10 Jun 07 - 09:23 PM (#2073274)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Don Firth

"Who gives a damn about P.H."

"Quite a number of Mudcatters, apparently."

Well, let's put it this way, O Aloof and Superior Ones:

With the news being what it has been for the past few years, it's a bit of a break—and a breath of slightly less fetid air—to observe an idiot run amok (amid all the other idiots run amok) who, although she did act in a potentially dangerous manner, is not in a position to issue orders that result in the deaths of tens or hundreds of thousands of people, and who, when she exercises her idiocy, she gets her come-uppance.

I notice that you guys felt impelled to look in to see what was going on. And felt impelled to comment.

Don Firth

10 Jun 07 - 10:13 PM (#2073292)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,meself

Okay, now I get it - slinging mud at that pathetic P.H. is a way to protest the Iraq war. It all makes sense now.

10 Jun 07 - 11:43 PM (#2073319)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Don Firth

Sheesh!

Don Firth

10 Jun 07 - 11:49 PM (#2073322)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,dianavan

meself - You have the choice to read or not to read. You have the choice to contribute or not to contribute.

11 Jun 07 - 12:54 AM (#2073336)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: The Fooles Troupe

For some, dianavan, that is no choice at all....

11 Jun 07 - 01:00 AM (#2073337)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Stilly River Sage

Don, I like your spin on it. Reminds me of a Monty Python skit about the village idiot.

SRS

11 Jun 07 - 01:08 AM (#2073342)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Don Firth

If the young lady is pathetic, then it is she who has rendered herself thus. And as to your accusation of "mud slinging," most of the comments here have to do with what she did to got herself into this predicament, along with general comments about those who think their wealth puts them above the rest of the human race and renders them immune to the consequences, legal and otherwise, of their actions (see the Fitzgerald quote above).

Granted, Miss Hilton is not worth all the attention she gets, including the attention she's getting here on Mudcat, but it's interesting to note that you seem eager to don your shining armor, mount your noble steed, and ride out to rescue the poor, downtrodden maiden from we fire-breathing dragons.

Don't be such a sanctimonious twit.

Don Firth

11 Jun 07 - 01:16 AM (#2073344)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: The Fooles Troupe

Actually, Don, probbaly not so much pathos, as bathos....

11 Jun 07 - 05:01 AM (#2073412)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: guitar

Well for one thing she isn't poor and she's just a spoiled little woman who thinks like people like her are above the law, I mean if it anyone else they would of got a longer sentence.

Serves her right.

Where's your mummy now?

11 Jun 07 - 05:31 AM (#2073429)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Liz the Squeak

In Rehab?

LTS

11 Jun 07 - 08:37 AM (#2073536)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,meself

Don: I can see you feel rather strongly about this matter, but do please try to maintain a measure of decorum. Name-calling does not become you.

My apologies for not seeing things the same way you do.

11 Jun 07 - 10:09 AM (#2073631)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Stilly River Sage

"Sanctimonious" and "twit" are an adjective and a noun, but not a name, per se. They're more a statement of your condition, I think.

11 Jun 07 - 10:47 AM (#2073655)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Rusty Dobro

If someone called Twin Towers Facility got sentenced, would they serve their time in the Paris Hilton?

11 Jun 07 - 11:34 AM (#2073694)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JeremyC

I've sort of followed this story, because (as thinkprogress.org has noted) it's been all over the media to the point where it's essentially unavoidable. And I can admit to a little shadenfreude when I saw the picture of her crying in the back of a police car.

Yes, she deserved the sentence. No, she doesn't merit so much publicity.

What I found interesting, though, was the most recent report, where she apparently told Barbara Walters that she's been stupid, she thought it was good to act stupid, and that it "isn't cute anymore," and that maybe people should stop focusing so much on her and focus instead on more important things, like, say, Iraq.

Does this mean she's growing up? With her resources, she could educate herself and do a lot of good in the world, but something tells me that's not likely to happen.

Here's the thinkprogress article on the coverage (or actually, it's a compilation of links to other posts):

times two."

11 Jun 07 - 11:36 AM (#2073698)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JeremyC

Hm. That didn't work. Trying again:

times two."

11 Jun 07 - 11:36 AM (#2073699)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JeremyC

For the love of god, why is this not working?

Link:

11 Jun 07 - 11:37 AM (#2073701)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JeremyC

Alright, html is getting kicked out of my posts, apparently.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/10/paris-lowlights

11 Jun 07 - 12:37 PM (#2073772)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JennyO

Here it is, JeremyC.

11 Jun 07 - 01:09 PM (#2073803)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Stilly River Sage

This is what he was trying to post:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/10/paris-lowlights/

And this quote:

times two

I picked this up from the source code.

SRS

11 Jun 07 - 01:50 PM (#2073837)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JeremyC

Thanks, you guys. I have no idea why that wouldn't post/show for me. Is there something in the forums software that wouldn't let me do what I was trying to do? Did I forget to close a tag? Gah.

Considering the stuff that's going on in this country right now, it's appalling that people pay more attention to the latest American Idol results and what Paris Hilton is doing than they do to, say, the Gonzales investigation, the current administration's (and most of the Republican candidates'!) attitudes towards torture, national security, etc., and so on. There are many, many disturbing things in the news right now that are worth getting worked up about, and Paris Hilton is not one of them.

But then, I said the same thing about the campaign to save the prime-time drama "Jericho"--people get more worked up about a television show than they seem to about real life.

11 Jun 07 - 03:06 PM (#2073910)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: guitar

when I first heard her name I thought that they were talking about a hotel.

Mind you that is what you get for having a stupid name

Tom Hamilton

11 Jun 07 - 04:55 PM (#2074007)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: jeffp

Jeremy, the only problem I could see is that you forgot to close the quotes both times. On this site you don't even need the quotes, if I recall correctly.

11 Jun 07 - 05:29 PM (#2074042)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JeremyC

Thanks, Jeff. I'm an idiot. :) Thanks again, JennyO and Stilly River Sage for posting what I was trying to post.

11 Jun 07 - 05:47 PM (#2074064)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Don Firth

Being a "sanctimonious twit" is not a condition beyond one's control, such as height, eye-color, or ethnic background. The state of "santimonious twitness" is a characteristic one adopts as a result of the choices one makes. Suggesting to that person that he consider trying to refrain from being a "sanctimonious twit" is not calling him a name, it is a matter of advising him that, by this judicious exercise of reasonable restraint, he may be able to avoid making an utter jackass of himself.

Don Firth

11 Jun 07 - 08:19 PM (#2074222)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Ron Davies

Stupid as her behavior has been up to now (almost uniformly), she now says she wants to "make a difference". She has a high enough profile--and is probably--(God help us)-- a role model for a large number of confused girls. Therefore if she really is willing, say, to be a spokeswoman against drunk driving, she should be given the benefit of the doubt.

Simple solution--no need for us to waste any more time on this burning issue: let her serve her time in jail (probably about 23 days)-and then see if she is willing to do some good--as for instance the above suggestion. If she doesn't change, by all means feel free to pile on again. At that point, she will richly deserve it.

Interesting that for all the comment that Paris' situation is absurdly overshadowing Iraq, immigration, etc., few of the posters on this popular thread are commenting on recent developments on those other topics.

11 Jun 07 - 08:28 PM (#2074234)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Little Hawk

The real scandal here is not Paris Hilton's immaturity and lack of responsibility. Uh-uh. It is the news media's immaturity and lack of responsibility. It is they who are the great threat to society, not Paris Hilton. She's just the latest hapless ammunition in their machine gun.

And I don't think it's entirely accidental the way these kind of ridiculous gossip stories are used to distract the public from much more important matters.

11 Jun 07 - 09:23 PM (#2074267)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,meself

Dear Mr Firth:

We read your post with great interest. It is truly gratifying to see a person such as yourself participating in a forum of this nature, and we look forward to reading many of your insightful contributions in the future. I am sure you will understand if we do not have time to respond to each and every one, but please be assured of our ongoing interest in your opinions.

Yours truly,
meself

11 Jun 07 - 10:19 PM (#2074308)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Don Firth

GUEST,yerself, you do show taste. What kind, we'll leave for posterity to judge.

Well, now, Little Hawk, I don't really think all that many people are that fascinated with the Perils and Peccadilloes of Paris as some here seem to think. And I'm certainly not letting it distract me from the rest of what's going on in the world. For example, I listened to an excellent discussion on civil rights with Anthony Romero, Executive Director of the American Civil Liberties Union and author of a new book, In Defense of Our America on the radio this morning as I had breakfast.

I don't spend all day on Mudcat, as, apparently, some people indeed do—verifiable by the volume and frequency of their posts, often on only one thread (practically every other post), sometimes on several threads, bouncing from one to another. I do spend quite a bit of time on the computer, but that involves reading and answering my e-mail, checking in to see what's new on Mudcat, and sometimes posting something if I feel so inspired. But mostly, I use the computer for writing: articles, and a book I'm working on. Often that writing involves research, so I google quite a bit. Sometime during the afternoon, I usually I take a break, go outside for awhile, and get some fresh air. I practice guitar and vocal exercises every day and sing through a few songs (planning to do a concert this coming fall, and I have to keep in shape). As I check for e-mail several times a day, I may--may—check into Mudcat again.

In the meantime, I have music (usually Classic KING-FM) on the radio, and at specific times I switch to KUOW-FM (local NPR affiliate) for news.

By the way, I just checked with the Seattle Public Library to see if they had Anthony Romero's book. They do, so I placed a hold on it. I'm eighth in the queue, but the library has five copies, so it shouldn't be long.

Lest anyone assume from the length of this post, for example, that I spend a great deal of time writing posts for Mudcat, I write very quickly, and I do a lot of my writing with Dragon Naturally Speaking, a voice recognition program. I just dictate to the computer and it appears on the screen. A little editing and away she goes.

GUEST,yerself, you really shouldn't allow yerself to get this worked up. But then, love can do strange things to people.

But then. . . .

"We'll always have Paris."
—Humpy Gocart in Casablanca

Don Firth

12 Jun 07 - 07:24 AM (#2074577)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JennieG

A wonderful letter in the local paper this morning:

Flash on the pan

Paris Hilton apparently was terrified that she might be photographed in prison astride the toilet. By whom? The pooparazzi?

I wish I'd thought of that first!

Cheers
JennieG

12 Jun 07 - 09:09 AM (#2074667)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: clueless don

Since the young woman in question is sometimes featured in People magazine, the thought just flashed through my mind that someone should write a tune called "The Poor Paris of People".

Well, it gave me a grin!

Don

12 Jun 07 - 06:15 PM (#2075210)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Liz the Squeak

Interesting that she doesn't mind flashing her fanny (English meaning) in public but she objects to the possibility she'd be photographed on her can in the can.

LTS

12 Jun 07 - 06:30 PM (#2075228)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Peace

Dang. I posted to a thread just recently and she was in jail then. Is she back in jail? Man, she's gotta give up the sauce.

12 Jun 07 - 06:31 PM (#2075229)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Peace

OOPS. It was this thread. Oh, well . . . .

BTW, who IS Paris Hilton? I don't watch all that many movies.

12 Jun 07 - 08:15 PM (#2075316)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: saulgoldie

I confess that a) I think this "story" has gotten far too much attention; b) I think she should do her time like a normal person would; and c) I have a bit of simpathy for her given that she seems to suffer from ADD and depression. I have a suggestion for her new campaign. Why doesn't she work on public awareness of attention defecit disorder and depression and the need to better deal with them and get them out of the closet. Between substance abuse and mental illness (which often go together), more effectively dealing with these problems could free two thirds of the prison population. So she could help the public learn a valuable lesson, as she has said that she, herself has.

12 Jun 07 - 08:27 PM (#2075322)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Don Firth

Sounds like a good plan, but until I hear otherwise, I tend to think that the only "valuable lesson" she's learned is "don't get caught."

Don Firth

12 Jun 07 - 08:51 PM (#2075331)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Ebbie

Peace, Paris Hilton is one of the heirs to the Hilton hotel fortune. I don't know that she has made any movies- other than her infamous sex tape.

12 Jun 07 - 09:07 PM (#2075342)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: JeremyC

She was in a couple of movies, mainly bad horror stuff, like "House of Wax" (I think--I didn't actually see it). She also had a small role in the pilot to the otherwise excellent TV series Veronica Mars. Oh, and she was in some godawful reality show where she basically acted like a dumb bimbo. She's mostly famous for being rich and acting stupid.

12 Jun 07 - 10:20 PM (#2075382)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Ron Davies

She says she wants to "make a difference". We're all from Missouri on this, but let's see what happens when she finishes her sentence. At the risk of heresy, I'd say that everybody, even young teachers who put foolish things on the Net-- and, beyond that, yes, even rich and stupid celebrities-- deserves the benefit of the doubt.

12 Jun 07 - 10:50 PM (#2075399)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Peter T.

Christopher Hitchens has it about right (www.slate.com).

yours,

Peter T.

12 Jun 07 - 10:56 PM (#2075403)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Ron Davies

I'm sorry--I was a bit hasty. Everybody deserves the benefit of the doubt--except unrepentant Bush voters--there's no hope for them.

13 Jun 07 - 12:07 AM (#2075438)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Peace

Thank you. I had heard her name mentioned before but really didn't know anything about her. I hope she doesn't get crabs while she's in the big house.

13 Jun 07 - 02:43 AM (#2075477)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Ebbie

lol She probably won't be doing what you did.

13 Jun 07 - 10:24 PM (#2076376)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Sorcha

Uh, don't you need a bit of hair there before you can get crabs?

Oooo, did I really say that? No, I take it back. I'm sorry. Perhaps she could just not sit on the can while she is there? Liquid diet?

Sorch, go back to your cave and behave.
Yes ma'm.

14 Jun 07 - 09:17 AM (#2076735)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Donuel

While the real Paris Hilton is in a secluded Pacific island resort healing from the latest implant surguries, the look alike Paris (ROH*)Hilton is in jail and will do what is expected to resuscitate the real PH's celebrity such as finding God, being respectful to the parents and generally being pleasant.

*Ringers of Hollywood Inc. is a discreet and expensive service that affords celebrities to be at two places at once. The movie Dave was a spin off of the consequences of a ringer ending up in the white house.

14 Jun 07 - 07:08 PM (#2077317)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Ebbie

What?

30 Jun 07 - 12:04 PM (#2090924)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: SINSULL

She is out and ready to save the world - breast cancer, MS, women convicts. Her "medical" problem was claustrophobia which fortunately she was able to "handle" when the judge ordered her back to prison. And despite her conviction for drunk driving and numerous photos and videos of her smoking pot, mushrooms, etc. she claims never to have used drugs.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if she really did use her millions and her fame to cure MS or breast cancer or help poor women?

Meantime, the cast of Ocean's 13 put their money where their mouth is and donated 5.5 MILLION DOLLARS for humanitarian efforts in Darfur. But I do not believe it made the front page of any newspapers.

30 Jun 07 - 12:35 PM (#2090946)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: Charley Noble

Sinsull-

"Wouldn't it be wonderful..."

Why do I feel a headache coming on?

Charley Noble

30 Jun 07 - 09:04 PM (#2091270)
Subject: RE: BS: Poor Paris back behind bars
From: GUEST,mg

I think she came up with two excellent ideas: one is a play house or something for children with handicaps and one is a halfway house for women exiting prison and having no where to stay. I think both are excellent ideas..I would recommend curing breast cancer being left to someone else...I hope she does these things and think that she will...mg