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Origins: The Other Side (Bill Dorsey)

06 Jul 07 - 07:40 PM (#2096035)
Subject: Origins: The Other Side. Who is Bill Dorsey?
From: Joybell

I'd like to find out more about the songwriter who wrote "THE OTHER SIDE" (The Icecaps are Melting)
It's on Tiny Tim's "God Bless Tiny Tim -1968"
The liner notes credit "a young songwriter" and give his name as Bill Dorsey. The arrangement, which is probably equally important with this song, is by an Artie Butler.
Google hasn't helped much.
I did find a Bill Dorsey but he seems an unlikely candidate, and the song is not mentioned in connection with him.

Does anyone know anything about the man who wrote this song? I'd be very grateful.
Joy


06 Jul 07 - 07:46 PM (#2096041)
Subject: RE: Origins: The Other Side. Who is Bill Dorsey?
From: Joybell

Found Artie Butler alright. Still working as a song arranger. There's a picture of him with his arms around Barry Manilow. Highly respected with important songs to his credits. No mention of Bill Dorsey that I've found yet.
Cheers, Joy


06 Jul 07 - 08:55 PM (#2096065)
Subject: RE: Origins: The Other Side. Who is Bill Dorsey?
From: Peace

I found some mentions of Bill Dorsey, but nothing of substance.


06 Jul 07 - 08:59 PM (#2096066)
Subject: RE: Origins: The Other Side. Who is Bill Dorsey?
From: Joe Offer

Got lyrics you can post for that thar song, Joy?
-Joe-


06 Jul 07 - 09:22 PM (#2096072)
Subject: RE: Origins: The Other Side. Who is Bill Dorsey?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Only found his name with the Reprise recordings by Tiny Tim.


06 Jul 07 - 09:29 PM (#2096074)
Subject: RE: Origins: The Other Side. Who is Bill Dorsey?
From: Peace

I sent an e-mail to a site about TT. Let you know the result if/when.


07 Jul 07 - 04:18 AM (#2096226)
Subject: Lyr Add: THE OTHER SIDE (Bill Dorsey/Tiny Tim)
From: Joybell

Yes Joe, OK. The lyrics come from the album. We had to play it and get them that way. No sign of them anywhere else.

(mad laughter)
Oh!
(bass ostinato)
One eye is brown. The other is brown.
I am a fish. I swim around.
You say I'm lost. I disagree.
The map has changed, and with it, me.

Flying through the seaweed, what strange things I see below.
Cars are waiting, windshields wiping, nowhere left to go.

Ooh!
The icecaps are melting, oh, oh, oh, oh!
All the world is drowning, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh!
The icecaps are melting. The tide is rushing in.
All the world is drowning, to wash away the sin.

(instrumental break)

The seagull flies in search of land.
The children hide beneath the sand.
As golden toys come floating down.
I play the fish. I swim around.

Flying through the seaweed, what strange things I see below.
Cars are waiting, windshields wiping, nowhere left to go.

Ooh!
The icecaps are melting, oh, oh, oh, oh!
All the world is drowning, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh!
The icecaps are melting. The tide is rushing in.
All the world is drowning, to wash away the sin.

(spoken)
Now, everybody sing!
I tell you, my dear friends, oh, how wonderful it is, no matter wherever you are, we can all be happy singing, no matter if you're out there parked in that car along the highway, or whether you're at home, sitting by the radio, or whether you're having a meal, or whether you're by the TV set, let everyone sing about the melting icecaps, how they're coming down into the sea, and let us all have a swimming time,
as we sing....

(chorus with orchestra, fade out)

by Bill Dorsey
arr: Artie Butler

Wonderful aren't they. It's wild and very cheery-sounding. If you can get to hear it I recommend it.
Cheers, Joy


07 Jul 07 - 04:27 AM (#2096229)
Subject: RE: Origins: The Other Side. Who is Bill Dorsey?
From: Joe Offer

Yes, definitely an interesting song.
Thanks, Joy.
-Joe-


08 Apr 09 - 11:37 PM (#2607794)
Subject: RE: Origins: The Other Side. Who is Bill Dorsey?
From: Jim Dixon

You might be able to hear THE OTHER SIDE by clicking this:
http://notacult.com/Geandily/Music/god%20bless%20tiny%20tim/09%20the%20other%20side.mp3


18 Jul 10 - 09:21 AM (#2947080)
Subject: RE: Origins: The Other Side (Bill Dorsey)
From: GUEST,MagicManky

I was looking for info on a set of Monkees bootlegs and found this thread. There are a number of demo recordings made by Bill Dorsey for the Monkees, including one credited as either 'I Am A Fish' or 'I Swim Around', but it has the exact lyrics above so it's actually 'The Other Side'. You can find these demos on some bootleg discs, sometimes listed as 'The Peter Tork Acetates' (they were discovered in his former home), but the quality is poor. Some of Dorsey's songs were recorded for the '33 1/3 Revolutions Per monkee' TV special in 1969, including 'Wind Up Man', 'A String For My Kite' and 'Goldilocks Sometime'.


23 Apr 11 - 12:32 PM (#3141123)
Subject: RE: Origins: The Other Side (Bill Dorsey)
From: GUEST,Bill Dorsey

Alive and well in Palm Springs , Ca. Better known as "William Dorsey" or William Ballantine Dorsey, Celebrated, listed oil landscape painter ,painting California and Alaska, Taos , jackson Hole, Stowe Vermont.......


08 Jun 11 - 02:48 PM (#3167213)
Subject: RE: Origins: The Other Side (Bill Dorsey)
From: GUEST

I, too am looking for you, Mr. Dorsey! I'd like to do an interview with you for a book I am writing. Any chance we can talk? -John


24 Jun 11 - 02:24 PM (#3175861)
Subject: RE: Origins: The Other Side (Bill Dorsey)
From: GUEST,Bill Dorsey

wdorsey34@yahoo.com


09 Dec 16 - 01:21 AM (#3825373)
Subject: RE: Origins: The Other Side (Bill Dorsey)
From: GUEST,Coolkid96

https://youtu.be/8DEoOdcYKbc


03 Jul 18 - 02:56 PM (#3935067)
Subject: RE: Origins: The Other Side (Bill Dorsey)
From: GUEST

I actually spoke to Bill Dorsey about 20 years ago (Late 90's) I wanted to find bout more about his writing. He seemed annoyed that I wasn't in the music business!


16 May 20 - 08:20 AM (#4052736)
Subject: RE: Origins: The Other Side (Bill Dorsey)
From: GUEST,Kathleen

Looking for info on Bill Dorsey. He and my sister used to homestead in Seldovia, Alaska in the mid/late 70s. He wrote music for the Monkees and others. Hard to find info on him.


18 May 20 - 07:58 PM (#4053418)
Subject: RE: Origins: The Other Side (Bill Dorsey)
From: GUEST,Starship

Mr Dorsey's bio.

https://focusonthemasters.com/william-b-dorsey/


20 Sep 22 - 07:01 PM (#4153186)
Subject: RE: Origins: The Other Side (Bill Dorsey)
From: GUEST,Mary.Dorsey

Kathleen, is Lee still on this side? Jamie?