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09 Jul 07 - 12:56 AM (#2097438) Subject: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Nancy King OK Folks, here we go! It's time to get ready for the 2007 Folklore Society of Greater Washington Getaway! This year's Getaway will be November 2-5, at the West River Conference Center on the Chesapeake Bay, and you're all welcome to join the fun! If you'd like more information about the Getaway, check the description on the FSGW site here. (right now this info refers to last year's event, but this year will be similar), or put "Getaway" into the filter box at the top of the Mudcat page, set the age for a year or two, and you'll get enough information to keep you reading for weeks. The Program Committee (Carly Gewirz, Lorraine Van Buren, and I) met for our first planning meeting last weekend. We're looking at a fine lineup of invited guests, and beginning to sketch out a list of possible workshops, and now we're ready for your input! We can't really finalize the program until we know who will be there and what they want to do. So, if you plan to come, please let us know that, and tell us what you would like to see on the program. Are there workshops you'd like to lead or attend? Workshops from previous years you'd like to see repeated (or not)? We're open to all suggestions, and although we can't promise that every one of them will end up in the final list, we can assure you that all will be given due consideration. You can post to this thread with your ideas, or PM any of us. The Getaway is all about participation, so start participating now! Looking forward to seeing you in November! Nancy |
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09 Jul 07 - 09:34 AM (#2097673) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: jacqui.c I'll be there, hopefully with Kendall. I really enjoyed Lisa Null's voice workshop last year. If I can find enough volunteers I would like to try a mummers play this year, if possible. |
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09 Jul 07 - 09:52 AM (#2097685) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Maryrrf Mummer's play! That sound like fun - consider me your first volunteer! |
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09 Jul 07 - 10:34 AM (#2097710) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: MMario I think a "lullaby and Cradle song" session would be nice. |
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09 Jul 07 - 10:36 AM (#2097713) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: SINSULL Nice idea, MMario. Hopefully someone will bring props. |
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09 Jul 07 - 12:05 PM (#2097775) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Amos I know I can find enough volunteers to start the necessary infants, but we need more lead time. A |
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09 Jul 07 - 02:30 PM (#2097917) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Dan Schatz Some of us have a head start, Amos. I thought of this workshop too, though I thought of specifically including "Baby Bouncing Songs," since lullabies by themselves can get a little - well, sleep-inducing. And I like the idea of the mummers play! Dan Schatz |
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09 Jul 07 - 02:33 PM (#2097925) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: beardedbruce "Baby Bouncing Songs," Can we leave the upper age limit off this one ( for the "baby")? |
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09 Jul 07 - 08:54 PM (#2098259) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: kendall Whether or not I'm there depends a lot on the sleeping arrangements. |
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09 Jul 07 - 09:06 PM (#2098267) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Charley Noble It all sounds wonderful but I'll still be in Australia. 2008 for sure! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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09 Jul 07 - 09:24 PM (#2098277) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Ebbie I expect I'll be missing it again this year- but maybe next year? I hope so. |
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09 Jul 07 - 09:51 PM (#2098290) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Janie I plan (hope) to be there. No inspiration coming at present for workshops. Count me in as a worker ant in whatever capacity will be helpful. Janie |
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09 Jul 07 - 09:59 PM (#2098293) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Celtaddict I really liked the workshops on harmonizing, and also the ballads with a topic, such as supernatural, crime, shipwrecks. The foreign language one was quite interesting but I would love to have participants bring 'handouts' with original language/English lyrics. |
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09 Jul 07 - 10:10 PM (#2098298) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bill D Next year will be back to October....that will help some people plan. But we did quite well last year, and we need to concentrate on THIS year. If I understood correctly, they were planning a new dining hall, with the old one being available for activities. We might have some dances if there was interest. I am always looking for new spins on song workshops...maybe something like the famous "Occupational Hazards" or "Songs of ONLY Non-Domesticated Animals" or, what ought to be easy these days.."Anti-War songs"....or variations on these. Still thinking.. |
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09 Jul 07 - 11:54 PM (#2098355) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Songster Bob I'm of several minds over Getaway workshop subjects. Sometimes I think of kinds of songs I'm doing these days -- Civil War and / or 19th C. music, songwriting, political/topical songs -- and other times I think of topics I don't do myself -- well, at least don't do now -- like old-time string-band music or blues; in other words, genres of music, rather than topics of the songs themselves. The best workshop schedule would be a mixture of genre workshops, topical workshops, even geographical workshops (since I think we'll have a few folks from "far away" as well as local folkals). So, genres: blues old-time banjo, guitar, fiddle ballad singing harmony singing Gospel dance music (and even dancing, if that is possible) topics: political/topical/war/anti-war historical eras (19th C., Civil War, WWI, WWII, 1950s?) animal / vegetable / mineral / spirit world work / play money / lack of it geographical styles (both vocal and instrumental) Canadian / New England / British Isles / etc. US regions (South, East, West, in-between) I think we should look to having a balance of kinds, some genres, some topics, some geography, some styles (vocal, spoken, dance, instrumental, etc.), some pot-luck, some showcases for guests, etc. Bob |
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10 Jul 07 - 12:42 AM (#2098367) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Nancy King Great start, folks! Keep 'em coming! |
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10 Jul 07 - 07:09 AM (#2098502) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: kendall Clawhammer banjo. |
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10 Jul 07 - 07:41 AM (#2098517) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Micca Kendall, you dont need a clawhammer , just any old hammer will do for a banjo!! I would like, If I can make it to the Getaway, somthing like the Late Night Extra singing session that took place in the "Market" area after the Sunday night concert, it was a sort of Impromptu sing session, unmoderated, aand seemed to involve, John Roberts, Ron Davies, Bill D, Dick Greenhaus, CET and an assortment of Reprobates, idiots and general riff-raff, The singing was great and the songs included many rather questionable lyrics and it was tremendously enjoyable!! I dont think we could ever reproduce the expression on the face of the Lady who sang the version she knew of a song only to be joined in the chorus with the full uncensored adult version she sang " Hey gig-a-gig kiss a little pig follow the band, please take my hand and follow the band Hey gig-a-gig kiss a little pig follow the band,fall in a follow the band".... |
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10 Jul 07 - 10:16 AM (#2098645) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bill D I dunno, Micca, "Reprobates, idiots and general riff-raff," are hard to organize...but when they accidently reach critical mass, things just happen. |
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10 Jul 07 - 10:37 AM (#2098676) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Midchuck I wouldn't be there anyway. It's too far for us to go unless Kris uses up two of her personal days. But I still can't understand why they have to do battle with NOMAD. Hope to be there the first year after Kris retires. Peter. |
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10 Jul 07 - 10:47 AM (#2098685) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: SINSULL The camp's open dates determine the weekend. It isn't planned that way. And next year Getaway won't conflict with NOMAD. Again - the camp had the dates open. |
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10 Jul 07 - 11:37 AM (#2098742) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bill D I think we ought to have a separate thread for discussion/debate of the camp/Getaway in general, and leave this one for Program planning....so I shall start one. |
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10 Jul 07 - 11:48 AM (#2098758) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bill D right here |
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10 Jul 07 - 04:26 PM (#2099077) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: beardedbruce Can we try to have a workshop/discussion on creativity ("Feeding the Muse") ? Perhaps at some late hour, say 2 AM? Where there will be less compition for attendence? |
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10 Jul 07 - 04:46 PM (#2099100) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bill D at 2AM, you can have almost any workshop you please, bruce..*grin*...attendees are a different matter. You'd need to clarify the format well, no matter what the hour. |
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10 Jul 07 - 04:50 PM (#2099105) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: beardedbruce Well, the attempt a few years back had no ( zero) attendees, except for the two leaders MMario and myself). I can't do much worse than that, unless I don't show up myself. |
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10 Jul 07 - 05:04 PM (#2099118) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bill D hey...there's creative! A non-Happening! months of planning, then just visualize the possibilities. (I...ummm...suspect that that prior event might make you study the concept and 'refine' it) |
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11 Jul 07 - 01:08 AM (#2099465) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Linda Goodman Zebooker A mummers play--another of Jaqui's projects--sure, count me in !!!! I don't know what it that is, but it doesn't sound like it would involve being an inflatable flamingo wearing a corset, so PROBABLY a safe thing to attempt.... What Janie said, What Songster Bob said.. exactly. And I've fallen in love with the sound of clawhammer banjo. It would be wonderful if some dancing could be incorporated. The Folk Project of Northern New Jersey does this in their spring and fall festivals, but I don't know how it's managed. I have found myself wondering lately about the mechanism for writing songs--nothing grand, but just something that would help answer questions like, "I've got some things I want to say, and some rhymes, but can't quite get them together, and I'm stuck on the second verse, and how can I know I haven't just hijacked this nice tune from something I've heard and stored away?" Two workshops that didn't especially interest me last year, but now that I'm learning guitar I would like so much to have heard would be Eleanor Ellis/Donna Fletcher's Fingerstyle Blues and Sylvia Herrold's Swing guitar (I caught two minutes of that last one and it was fascinating). I'm such a fan of Eleanor Ellis, now after hearing her at a house concert in February. Can I have a do-over? Anything Balkan or Brazilian would be wonderful, singing, guitar or percussion. I don't feel competent to lead workshops, but am very happy to do whatever else makes this amazing weekend happen. with the greatest anticipation--Linda |
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11 Jul 07 - 01:13 AM (#2099468) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Linda Goodman Zebooker Oh! and the Parody workshop. GOT to have that one again! |
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11 Jul 07 - 05:53 AM (#2099582) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: beardedbruce Plus or minus? |
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11 Jul 07 - 06:29 AM (#2099602) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GUEST,micca at work Linda, I would be very happy to lead or co-lead the parodies workshop, as I have done in the past, if I make it to the Getaway, I too very much enjoy parodies, I treasure MMarios "Rudolf the Blue Balled Reindeer" amd It was where I first heard Lamarcas "Ring of the Niebelung" |
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11 Jul 07 - 06:43 AM (#2099611) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: beardedbruce Just as a reminder ( any of them would be good again!) 2004 list of workshops |
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11 Jul 07 - 08:51 AM (#2099693) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: MMario That's Boris the blue-balled reindeer. |
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11 Jul 07 - 10:30 AM (#2099793) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Alaska Mike Well it sounds like you folks are planning another fabulous event. November still doesn't work for me though. I will be enjoying the crisp sea breezes of Dutch Harbor, Alaska, 800 miles out on the Aleutian Island chain. Tawmmie and I are hoping to visit again in 2008 and we will be retiring in 2010. We will definitely be back at the Getaway eventually. Have a blast. Mike |
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11 Jul 07 - 11:30 AM (#2099838) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Jeri Bruce, I got that 'plus or minus' joke, but I have no clue why I did and not many other people will. Maybe we should have a 'parroty' workshop. I'd like to be there, but again, it's not looking so good. I'll miss work, gas costs a load and it would be a 9 hour drive. Aside from my level of exhaustion upon arrival, it would cost close to $500. I could drive down with the axe murderers from Maine (I haven't discounted the possibility of asking.), but I'd probably need a straight jacket waiting when I got to camp. |
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11 Jul 07 - 11:37 AM (#2099847) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: beardedbruce straight lines and hugs are available, but straight jackets? Aren't they a type of wasps, like yellow jackets but with a better personality? I guess you need to tradeoff the impact of the trip down (plus or minus) vs the impact ( plus or minus) of the Getaway experience. Anything to be done at this end to (help) make the result your attendence? |
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11 Jul 07 - 11:58 AM (#2099870) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Jeri Send money. (Yeah, I know this is gonna be deleted.) Seriously, last year, it just got too far, too late in the year, and with the bunk beds, sounded too hard. I missed it though, so I'm still thinking about going this year. |
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11 Jul 07 - 12:00 PM (#2099872) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bill D ohh..thanks, Jeri, for tipping me off to the point of 'plus or minus'. One of my minors in college was "Avoiding Math", so the embedded pun was lost on me for a minute. |
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11 Jul 07 - 12:01 PM (#2099873) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: beardedbruce I have a few cents to spare. And some ginger. Well, try to think of what might be enough to get you here, and let us know- the schedule is still to be determined! Any chance a train (or bus) would be practical? Less strain on the trip down and up. |
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11 Jul 07 - 01:10 PM (#2099944) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Micca Jeri, if you want the journey to fly by and feel like it is too short, travel with Barry Finn driving...he is the storyteller to have with you on a long journey!!! ask Mary Sins |
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11 Jul 07 - 01:37 PM (#2099969) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Linda Goodman Zebooker I'm something of a math phobe, so I still don't get BB's plus or minus pun. No clue. I hate missing out, could someone explain it in words of one syllable? Jeri, you were badly missed last year. I'm hoping you can come back. Of course if you don't try to take all the vegetation of the camp back with you, and you don't drive for hours in the opposide direction going home, the trip MIGHT seem shorter!! Seriously, if those of us for whom the trip to West River is the equivalent of a commute to work, registered early and put in a bit extra in the scholarship fund, it should be a matter of course for those coming from much farther away to use as much of it as needed. Only seems fair! --Linda |
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11 Jul 07 - 02:45 PM (#2100049) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Barry Finn Jeri, I rode with the Main-E-axe murderers from Maine + Mica last year & it was a great ride all round, cheap too when split so many ways. Mary even let me drive as long as I didn't turn around to tell stories. I hope to be riding down with them again (Hint) in what ever configuration they agree to. Alaska Mike, you & Tawmmie will be missed but if you guys are thinking about 2008 maybe some of us Northern New Englanders can take your daughter down with us so it'll become a family thing & we can be asured of your coming. Got to tell you though that there may be something that's not alright with your kid, I think she likes this music, you'd better keep an eye out for her. I would like to suggest a workshop/concert from Elizabeth LaPrelle, seeing as she won't come North because she's a bit to tied up with her schooling, so Elizabeth if you're reading this, there's a formal request that you attend, your favorite fan. An' Linda, I hope that you'll be doing a workshop too. A couple suggestions for workshops: Bloodlust, gore, murder & mayhem (a 3 liter min requirement & unrelated to sex or rape-they are not the same things) The supernatural, ghosts, hauntings, conjures,, spellbinders of a not so spiritual nature Vulgarity, ranchy, sexually explicit & dam right rude songs not fit for a family style worshop & could I put forth as a workshop leader, Colleen Cleveland (if you'd dare to agree to it Colleen), who I heard earlier this year do 2 songs in pertictular from her family's repertoire that are tops in at least 2 of the above categories. Mark it as an "Adult Workshop XXX", not for the purde, victorian or faint of heart Next topic, Revenge, punishment & payback - whippings, burnings & other cruelties we're fond of singing about After reviewing my suggestions can anyone suggest a decent folkie therapist, I may need to check myself out. Go on tell me that there are more of you out there that find any of these appealing, please. Barry |
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11 Jul 07 - 03:04 PM (#2100077) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Dan Schatz Barry, given that the folkie therapist who first comes to mind is the late (and great) Helen Schneyer, who could easily have come up with songs in any of those categories - maybe you'll be fine. Dan |
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11 Jul 07 - 03:13 PM (#2100090) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Big Mick Jeri ..... you will be there........Mick |
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11 Jul 07 - 03:16 PM (#2100096) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bill D Linda...you said 'parody'..BB said plus or minus..Jeri figgered out that he was thinking 'parity' in his head, which has a math/physics connection...THEN Jeri had to add 'parroty' just to confuse us...*grin*...(was it worth it?) |
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11 Jul 07 - 03:19 PM (#2100099) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Big Mick Twisted minds always get each others humor, Linda. Your lack of getting it means you are a well adjusted person. BTW .... I got it. Shit. Mick |
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11 Jul 07 - 08:02 PM (#2100357) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: dick greenhaus If anyone's up for yet another "Roots of the Music" workshop, I have a few CDs I haven't played yet. |
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11 Jul 07 - 08:08 PM (#2100366) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Leadfingers Mutter Mutter Mutter !! Cant make it this year ! but NEXT Year I am NOT taking any bookings for early October !! |
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11 Jul 07 - 11:19 PM (#2100463) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Linda Goodman Zebooker Thanks for the explanation. I thought it might be something like that. Glad to hear I'm well adjusted! |
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11 Jul 07 - 11:55 PM (#2100470) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Songster Bob "Clawhammer banjo." I can handle that, with even a little on minstrel style (not really very much on it, but I'm learning). Could even do banjo styles, contrasting finger styles with stroke style (the 19th C. name for clawhammer). Accompaniment workshop? Guitar styles? Mandolin? Do you think teaching, show-off, compare-and-contrast, just what, in terms of instrumental workshops? We once had a workshop a long time ago called, "making a song your own," in which people demonstrated how they approach performing a song so that it fits their 'style.' That is, once you decide to do a song, how do you make what you do different from everyone else? Or make it fit your strengths and avoid your not-so-strong-points? I might like to participate in something like that, you know? Bob |
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12 Jul 07 - 12:05 AM (#2100471) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Barry Finn That's very interesting Bob, love the idea "making a song your own" that is. Barry |
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12 Jul 07 - 10:13 AM (#2100646) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Genie I'd love to have a Song Challenge! workshop. Maybe where you get a few silly news stories Friday night, and by late Saturday you have to come up with and present your singable versions of those. (This could tie in with the Sat night concert if some people were so inclined.) Alternatively, or in addition, it'd be nice to have a songwriting workshop. Preferably one that was a couple hours long and not too huge. Other workshop themes that I really like are: Original Mudcatter Songs Harmony Duets (Partner Songs) Parodies Gospel / Inspirational Bluegrass Foreign Language / Music Around The World Not suggesting we should do all those, just stating some of my workshop interests. G |
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12 Jul 07 - 12:29 PM (#2100772) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: TRUBRIT Not sure what the driving configuration will look like coming down from Maine but am a) assuming I will drive and b) happy to drive - Esmerelda will find her way. I need wheels to escape snoring and hard beds -- I'm off to a hotel. Tami, Jacqui, Sins -- that means you need a 4th in the room or you could use the vacant bed for SPACE!!!!!!! |
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13 Jul 07 - 01:46 PM (#2101783) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: MMario hit me a few minutes back... What about a themed workshop "Bookends" - pairs of songs that are either oppisetes - or define the beginning and end of something.... |
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17 Jul 07 - 07:48 AM (#2105019) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: beardedbruce How about a workshop on "Songs of the Computer Revolution" ? |
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17 Jul 07 - 10:10 AM (#2105118) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: beardedbruce It could be "As the drum turns" or "Core Memories" |
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17 Jul 07 - 02:25 PM (#2105191) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Amos "Bits of Old Time Music", or "A Byte and a Song". "Tunes for Strings", "Down By the Auld Bit-Stream", "Byte My ASCII" also come to mind.... A |
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17 Jul 07 - 02:47 PM (#2105218) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: SINSULL There's room at the inn, Barry. I believe there will be three cars from Maine this year. Jeri too is welcome and will be kidnappoed if she says "No". Coming back I believe I will have Micca in tow. It will work out - it always does. This year let's put some of the unnecessary luggage in an less packed car. Then maybe we can breathe (not ofcourse while Barry is driving). Redo 2004, bruce? Tinker and I would lovwe to do another wedding if Jacqui and Kendall are up for it. |
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18 Jul 07 - 12:02 AM (#2105623) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GutBucketeer I second the suggestion for a harmony singing workshop working on How as well as just doing it. Blues, Blues, Blues !!! Can anyone provide a good discussion on acoustic Blues styles. e.g. Piedmont versus Delta versus Mississippi Hill country. Political/campaigne songs would be fun. Old time string band jam. I sort of would like to NOT have a jug band workshop this year. JAB |
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18 Jul 07 - 12:04 AM (#2105625) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: TRUBRIT Amos --- bad puns!!!! |
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18 Jul 07 - 08:04 AM (#2105828) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Linda Goodman Zebooker Gutbucketeer, what great ideas! I can think of a few people whom I haven't seen at Getaways who might come just for those. Maybe a Getaway flyer, with the list of workshops could be made up - even if still a little tentative --, and handed out at Glen Echo Open Band (second Friday of the month Contra dance) and sent to S.P.U.D.S. open contra dance band in the Philladelphia area. --Linda |
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27 Jul 07 - 05:06 PM (#2112888) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bobert Refresh to read later... Takes too long with my dial up to laod 30 days worth of threads... Bobert |
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27 Jul 07 - 06:35 PM (#2112963) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Severn Some workshop suggestions: 20th Century American Military Songs-World Wars to the Present. Ones you learned yourself. Male AND Female Jody Calls. Songs your father sang. Songs from "Bless "em All" to those beyond blessing. Home Fires Burning to Cities Burning. Out-Of-Wedlock Relationships In-Wedlock Relationships Songs You learned as a kid (with a recorded version sent up to Azizi) Vile Fluids (Alchohol, poisons, medicines, potions, sewage, even Scottish waulking songs. Probably some ideas in the "uses for urine" thread). Anything from "Cod Liver Oil" to the contents of Larry Marr's "Big Five Gallon Jar". Strangers In A Strange Land-(Songs about meeting up with and conflicts and adjustments to different cultures. Soldiers, tourists pilgrims, missionaries and just plain drifters and globetrotters, anything from "Lord Bateman" to "Call To A Foreign Field" to "The American Stranger" to "The Kerry Recruit" to countless sailors ashore on leave in Callao. Keys-to locks, mysteries, another's heart or Big Bill Broonzy's highway. Disguises-Anything from "The Half Hitch" to "Claudy Banks" to "Queen Elenor's Confession" to "Sovay" to "The Handome Cabin Boy" Aging- Gracefully or going "Over The Hill To The Poorhouse" Just some ideas. See if any of this floats..... And Dick, the Roots Workshops can continue forever or until you finally run out of material. |
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27 Jul 07 - 06:41 PM (#2112968) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bill D Hey, Severn..those are some really good ideas! |
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27 Jul 07 - 07:03 PM (#2112987) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Tinker Mary you're volunteering me again.... But we could do a smash banging anniversary party for all our favorite couples.... |
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27 Jul 07 - 07:33 PM (#2112999) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bobert Okay, I will make every attempt to make it this year and would be glad to do a workshop on North Mississippi Hillstomp Blues, with Gutbuckteer, who BTW plays in my band, Sidewalk Bob and the Pedestrians... Can't handle the Piedmont stuff (though I can play it) in terms of leadin' a workshop in it... Bobert |
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27 Jul 07 - 07:45 PM (#2113006) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bobert Hey, wait a minute... What's tyhis thing about no drenkin'... Hey, I'm a bluesman... How amny letters are their in "blues" and how many in the word "beers"??? There is a reason fir this... So what's the deal??? Like if I'm carrin' 'round a plastic cup that say's Pepsi on it an' it has beer in it is I gonna get attacked by a bunch of camp monitors and made to write stupid stiff on some blackboeard a thousand times before I can go home??? Hey, if I wanted that then I'd check into Betty Ford... Jus' funnin'... But what is the deal??? Bobert |
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27 Jul 07 - 08:18 PM (#2113035) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Amos Bobert: It is a preference of the owners that we have such a rule, and we do have it; which rule we devoutly honor in the discrete breach thereof more than in the observance. A |
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27 Jul 07 - 08:40 PM (#2113038) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bobert What the heck you jus say, Amos... We gotta join the Church of Scientology (LOL) before we get in??? 'Er worser... We gotta join the Taliban??? Shoot, all I wnata do is flirt with the womenz, play a little blues 'n walk 'round with a Pepsi cup with cheap beer in it... Can I do that??? Yes ______ No _______ I ain't joinin' not friggin cult here and spent the rest of my days chantin' 'n prayin'... If that's what the Getaway has become then you all gonna have to count this ol hillbilly out.., As fir the womenz, Iz real gald that Capt'n Kendall is talkin' about stayin home and doin' a little lobster huntin' 'cuase that will give me lots of opportuntity to flirt with Jacqui... Now if I could get Bill to sat home it would be a perfect hillbilly storm with both Jacqui and Rita to flirt with... Whew... Gotta go outside an' cool down... But nevermind that high school stuff, what's the low down on my Natural Lites??? B~ |
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28 Jul 07 - 03:27 AM (#2113139) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Janie Buy a jug of white grape juice. Pour it out. Decant your favorite white - it is, still, grape juice, is it not? Ditto red/purple grape juice. Or ditto your favorite beverage made from the bounty of the land, be it hops, corn, barley, etc., imbided (embided?) from a lovely mug. Just make sure the original container is tucked away in your luggage somewhere well out of sight and that you then cart it (them) off the site instead of tossing them in the trash. |
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28 Jul 07 - 08:03 AM (#2113230) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bobert Them camp counselers Got breathizers, I hear... (ha, they need the counselin' if they can't see in the pure enjoyment of Natural Light... I mean like why so they call it "natural"???) Pepsi cup won't do??? Gotta put my beer in a grape juice bottle??? |
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28 Jul 07 - 01:58 PM (#2113452) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Nancy King Some really good program suggestions here! Keep 'em coming, please! We'll be getting down to serious program planning very soon, and welcome all suggestions. Bobert, don't worry about the no-alcohol business. We dealt with this sort of thing for 35 years before going to Camp Ramblewood, and we can (and did, last year) deal with it again. The West River staff were not at all obtrusive last year, but they were on site, and we just want everyone to be discreet. Last year, we discussed this issue in this thread. So please do come to the Getaway, and bring whatever beverage you want, along with some innocuous container for it. And haul out your empties, please. Oh, and -- uh -- could we please leave this thread for program ideas only? Other Getaway-related discussions might go here, perhaps. Looking forward to another great Getaway! Nancy |
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28 Jul 07 - 02:56 PM (#2113494) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Lonesome EJ Amos had the gist of it. Just remember to stay away from Mick and me if we suggest any midnight supply runs. |
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28 Jul 07 - 03:11 PM (#2113502) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Lonesome EJ Along those lines, this song was penned by yours truly after last year's event I Lost the Lights I lost the lights, Lord I lost the lights I'm driving along with no dashboard in sight My tail-lights kaput and a Drunk on my Right Praise the Lord I lost the lights! The headlights are working the pavement is bright My buddies are laughing No sorrow in sight when a look in the rearview Filled me with fright Christ on a Crumpet I saw the Lights! License, registration car rental shite kid with the badge got me feelin uptight breathin my whiskey breath off to the right Shout Hallelujah! I switched on the lights Now We've got the lights Lord we're filled with Might! Big Package Liquors up on the right with a Jug fer the Folkies We head back through the Night Glory to Heaven! We got the Light! OHH yes, by the way, are we going to reunite the Dwellers of Room 102 again this year? And what about the All-night Music Dorm? Will there actually be such a thing. To me, the late night jams were the highlight of last year, but there sure were a lot of complaints about em. |
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28 Jul 07 - 03:21 PM (#2113506) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Lonesome EJ And now that I'm on a roll, how about this idea for a workshop : It would be called Pair Songwriting. Anyone interested would sign up and from that group, pairs of individuals would be teamed. Each pair would write an original song for presentation at the workshop on Sunday, and would have part of Friday and Saturday to write and prepare their creation. What do you think? |
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28 Jul 07 - 07:32 PM (#2113639) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bobert Yeah, okay... Nuff on that stuff... Like I said, I'd be more than happy to do what I've done in years past... Maybe a mini-concert and lead a blues jam... But seein' as Gutbuckteer and I play together somewhat regularilly and play home made isnstrumemts maybe he would do a workshop on homemade instrument and we could demonstrate... Bobert |
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28 Jul 07 - 07:35 PM (#2113643) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: katlaughing The shared songwriting sounds like a great idea, LeeJ! |
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28 Jul 07 - 07:50 PM (#2113652) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Severn And then next year, Tag Team Songwriting! |
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31 Jul 07 - 02:31 PM (#2115796) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GUEST,goodnightgracie How about on the guilty pleasures category "standards" hosted by Lisa Null and Pete Kraemer? |
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31 Jul 07 - 03:50 PM (#2115872) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Maryrrf My friend Maria will be coming (she doesn't go on the internet much) and she has offered to again do her Workshop for Shy Singers. (This really involves more posture and breathing techniques rather than talking yourself out of stage fright.) Also she suggested a mini class "Massage for Musicians" which would include techniques for self help or for a partner to deal with elbow problems (violinists), or shoulder problems (guitar) etc. This would be better in one of the larger rooms, if possible. (She is a Certified Massage Therapist specializing in neuromuscular massage btw). |
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31 Jul 07 - 08:38 PM (#2116060) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: CET Lots of great suggestions. It seems that Barry Finn and I think along similar lines, which worries me a great deal. "Bloodlust, gore, murder & mayhem": absolutely! We could make it a body count workshop, with a black board or a flip chart to keep score. Songs in languages other than English have been well received in the last couple of years. My personal favourite topic (for professional reasons, I suppose) is crime and punishment. How about a workshop on songs based on historical events. Of course, that would cut across other boundaries (crime, war, rebellion, disaster, etc) Edmund |
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31 Jul 07 - 10:56 PM (#2116129) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GUEST,Janie Ooh, I like the songs based on historical events suggestions, Edmund. Songs about the the Mississippi or songs where a river figures prominently? Songs about poverty or class differences? I don't envy the program committee. So many ideas, just in this thread, and think of all the FSGW folks who are contributing ideas who don't post to Mudcat! What a full, rich, varied tradition is this genre called 'folk!. Janie |
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01 Aug 07 - 11:59 AM (#2116554) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Dan Schatz Hmmm - I like the historical events songs, too - that worked well the one time I remember doing it in the past. (And I can think of several good songs!) The river songs makes me think of a slightly more broad "Inland Waterways" category - which I guess would include lakes and canals as well as rivers. It seems to be related in terms of musical threads. Dan Schatz |
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01 Aug 07 - 07:43 PM (#2116926) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Jeri Paired songwriting - YES! I get something out of listening to people talk about how they write songs, but that's passive. I like a challenge. Having a partner means you get feedback and help you don't normally get, and you give the same. It sounds like a LOT of fun. My question though is, should we choose our own partners, throw our names into a hat and draw for partners, or should a workshop leader pair people s/he thinks will work well together (or at least be fun to watch)? |
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01 Aug 07 - 07:59 PM (#2116937) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Micca Well, Jeri, I would be thrilled to work with you on a song!! anytime, wether as a challenge or not! |
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03 Aug 07 - 08:33 PM (#2118701) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Dan Schatz Here's a thought - how about a workshop for children's songs? (I can't think of why kids are on my mind these days!) I remember we used to have children's songs workshops at the Getaway when I was a kid, and it was a big part of keeping me in love with folk music. I recognize that in recent years we've programmed a non-musical activity for kids during the Getaway, but perhaps we could have at least one music workshop that children might enjoy. Of course, it's possible no kids would come - but the adults would have a great time. For a lot of folk musicians, children's music is bread and butter, and there are so many wonderful kid-friendly songs. I wish I could come up with a good workshop title, though, to communicate that we aren't necessarily talking Disney here - not cutesy or even necessarily originally made with kids in mind - just songs kids would enjoy. Dan Schatz |
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03 Aug 07 - 08:48 PM (#2118708) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GUEST,Dani I do plan to be there this year, barring.... never mind, it's a plan! Love the Adult idea (just you wait!), also 20th century military (especially propaganda songs). Done some time ago, and always a favorite for me: songs sung to different tunes and vice versa; the farther off, the better. Maybe Spanish language folk songs? Those that have entered our culture, and just ones we might particularly love. Love the kids' songs, I remember Caroline Paton and Joe Offer doing something magical like this; might have been Camp Songs, but could be Songs for Kids (and With, if they show up). Looking forward, like nobody's business.... Dani |
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04 Aug 07 - 06:06 AM (#2118910) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Fortunato Nancy, I request a slide guitar workshop from Bobert. regards, chance |
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04 Aug 07 - 03:45 PM (#2119124) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GUEST,Barry How bout we just bottle his neck? Barry |
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04 Aug 07 - 10:06 PM (#2119385) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Nancy King Now, Barry -- no violence, please. Oh, I forgot -- you're into murder and mayhem this year. Um, we'll see what we can do to accommodate you... Great suggestions, folks! Now if the program committee can ever find a time when we can all get together, we can start putting together some tentative lists, and eventually contacting individuals about leading workshops. Do keep in mind that it will be some time before we really have the program nailed down -- we have to figure out who's going to be there and what they want to do, and then see how we can cram it all into a reasonable schedule. But I do promise that all of your suggestions will receive due consideration (which is not to say that ALL of them will actually happen, of course). I also promise that we will have a fantastically great time at this year's Getaway! That one's easy -- we always do! Nancy |
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05 Aug 07 - 05:50 PM (#2119951) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GUEST,Dani Another thought; my daughter (who missed Jim's instrument-making gig a few years ago) thought it would be fun to have one. I told her we have a ringer! That'll get you out of the jugband workshop business, Jim, unless you count trying things out. I only missed it for something involving singing, I'm sure, but it would be great fun if folks brought stuff and ideas for homemade noisemakers; then we can try them out at lunchtime, maybe!! Dani |
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05 Aug 07 - 08:26 PM (#2120020) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Amos IF we do River songs, it's got to be more than just the Mississippi, 'cuz it gets all the glory, and there are generic river songs as well that deserve a hearing, not to mention Shenandoah. A |
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05 Aug 07 - 09:12 PM (#2120031) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GUEST,lamarca sans cookie I once led an Open Sing with the topic "Tabloid Crime". The idea was that you could sing whatever ballad or song of murder, grand theft, bribery, infidelity or what-have-you - but you had to introduce it with a headline fit for the New York Post, the London Daily Mirror or the National Enquirer... Examples: The Cruel Mother - "Secret Infanticide Revealed by Ghosts!" Matty Groves - "Lovenest Broken by Homicidal Husband - 3 Dead in Murder-Suicide" Oor Hamlet - "Ga-ga Prince on Deadly Rampage - 7 Dead in Denmark" Jackie Monroe - "Transvestite Held in Jealousy Slaying - Local Officials Praise Deed" You get the idea... |
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05 Aug 07 - 09:44 PM (#2120043) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Amos Oh, newspaper men meet such interesting people.... A |
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06 Aug 07 - 12:28 AM (#2120112) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Janie Yer' right, Amos. Janie |
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06 Aug 07 - 04:46 PM (#2120416) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Lonesome EJ Jeri and Kat...thanks for the approval. For a while there I thought my suggestion was the equivalent of a fart in church. I think it would be more fun to randomly assign the pairs, with one small stipulation : One of the two should have a basic ability to play an accompanying instrument. That way, someone who sings but plays no instrument would have a better chance at structuring not just the words but also the melody. So, the sign-up sheet would show, maybe, "Maggie...voice only" or "Tom...guitar only", or "Jeri...voice and guitar". Which would mean the only problem person would be someone who wrote "Jim...voice and banjo", because we'd still need to pair him with someone who played an instrument (insert rim-shot here). Which reminds me. Do you know what the difference between a harmonica and a banjo is? |
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06 Aug 07 - 07:05 PM (#2120503) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Jeri LEJ, I'm not sure an instrument should be required. It would limit who could work with whom, and frankly, I write better tunes when I don't try to do the writing with an instrument. So what's the difference between a harmonica and a banjo? |
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06 Aug 07 - 07:43 PM (#2120518) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: voyager Here's 3 ideas for a workshop all wrapped in 1 - A Dulcimer Workshop - Intermediate Skills Celebrations for a Grey Day - Songs to lift the spirits The Songs of Richard and Mimi Farina - Pack Up Your Folk Songs voyager 'who recently got a new dulcimer and wants to play it as much as I can' |
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06 Aug 07 - 08:00 PM (#2120521) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Dan Schatz Hammered dulcimer or fretted? Dan |
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06 Aug 07 - 08:59 PM (#2120538) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Lonesome EJ A harmonica only sucks half the time. |
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06 Aug 07 - 10:07 PM (#2120564) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: voyager Methinks fretted dulcimer for the workshop idea. voyager |
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07 Aug 07 - 08:18 AM (#2120784) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: MMario I like the idea of paired songwriting - but fear it equally as much! |
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18 Aug 07 - 04:09 AM (#2128422) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Genie Just work that fear into your song, MMario. ;-D |
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18 Aug 07 - 12:07 PM (#2128594) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Gorgeous Gary There are of course two ways to go on childrens' songs--either the kid-friendly songs/songs written for kids, or the songs that kids actually sing. I would up leading a workshop on the latter a few years back. It was lightly attended (in part because it was scheduled against the wedding celebrations), but fun anyway. I recall I amused Elizabeth LaPrelle by discovering I knew a verse to "Three Jolly Fishermen" that she didn't! 8-) -- Gary |
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18 Aug 07 - 03:12 PM (#2128725) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GUEST,Nancy King at work Gary, I think this year the emphasis will be on the first category you mentioned -- the "kid-friendly" songs. Not necessarily songs written specifically for kids, but songs kids particularly enjoy. At least that's what the Program Committee is thinking at this point. We're just beginning to contact people about workshops and all, so it will be a while yet before we have anything concrete to tell anyone about the program. Just be assured it will be GREAT! Nancy |
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21 Sep 07 - 10:20 PM (#2154695) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GUEST Miner songs in minor keys Spotlight on: Kingston Trio, or Peter Paul and Mary-o, or Beatles Banjo jokes Blues guitar workshop repeat Feelin good pretty good Feelin bad mighty bad 99 bottles of beer on the wall Looking forward to reseeing everybody at the Getaway ! Annie |
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21 Sep 07 - 10:34 PM (#2154703) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Barry Finn How to make Blood & Guts kid friendly??? Green & Yella!!!! Barry |
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21 Sep 07 - 11:41 PM (#2154726) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GUEST,Dan's other computer Are you kidding Barry? "Great greeb gobs of greasy grimy gopher guts...." Dan |
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22 Sep 07 - 12:13 AM (#2154737) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Janie Whoopee! I do believe Sweet Annie has decided a determination of the environmental impact of 50,000 people engaged in 'Pumpkin Chunkin' can be put off another year in order for her to attend the Getaway. Maybe there is a God after all. The Williams Sisters rule! Janie |
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22 Sep 07 - 12:15 AM (#2154739) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Janie Oops. Wrong thread. Shoulda posted to the other. Sorry. If a clone sees this, feel free to move it. (not that you need my permission:>) Janie |
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22 Sep 07 - 06:40 PM (#2155272) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: dick greenhaus Mining songs are particularly apropos. And generally well-received. |
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28 Sep 07 - 09:47 AM (#2159269) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Dan Schatz Hmmm- mining songs is a good category (all kinds of mining, or just coal?). Then there's "Mining for Songs" - songs we or others have had to search, research, and otherwise unearth from a variety of obscure sources. What have been some of the great workshops of the past? I remember several years of Jonathan Eberhart's Songs for the Shower, and hasn't there been an "I Learned It At the Getaway" workshop? Dan Schatz |
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28 Sep 07 - 10:59 AM (#2159321) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: ClaireBear I've just found out that I can come to my first Getaway, so please excuse my late submission to this thread (I'm sure this is way too late for new subjects), but how about a workshop on house-visiting traditions (such as wassailing, hoodening, souling, pace-egging, etc.) and the music that goes with them? Or starting a house-visiting tradition in a community that's never had one? |
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28 Sep 07 - 03:14 PM (#2159483) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: SINSULL Good news, Ms Bear. Plan to stay east for a few extra days? |
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29 Sep 07 - 11:42 AM (#2159923) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: ClaireBear SINSULL, I have a sister who's lived in North Carolina for about 30 years without ever getting a visit from me, so I plan to set off to Durham after breakfast on Monday to remedy that. If I didn't, I'd be toast. With luck, though, this will be the first of many visits to the east -- annual ones! And I'll be able to explore to the north, which is something I long to do. Claire |
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29 Sep 07 - 12:34 PM (#2159949) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Janie Claire, Let me know if you need a ride to Durham. I live about 10 miles west of Druham and will be driving right through on my way home from the Getaway. Janie |
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29 Sep 07 - 12:37 PM (#2159953) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: ClaireBear Thanks for the kind offer, but I'm renting a car so I can explore on the way and maintain some independence once I'm there. |
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30 Sep 07 - 07:46 PM (#2160724) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Nancy King I'm sure you'll all agree it's high time for a word from the Getaway program committee, so here goes. We're running a little later than we'd like this year, due to people being out of town or sick or otherwise unable to get together, but we do have a PRELIMINARY, PARTIAL list of workshops. Leaders have not yet been confirmed in several cases, and of course everything is subject to change right up to the last moment. The actual schedule won't be ready until much later, and we'll post a more complete workshop list when we get a few more things nailed down, but for now (in no particular order), we're planning on Songs of peace around the world Folksongs for children Massage for musicians (Maria Fakhoury) Guts and Gore: a celebration of gratuitous violence (Barry Finn & Edmund Thomas) Swing Guitar (Sylvia Herold) Banjo (Joe Newberry) Gospel (Andy Wallace and ?) Ballads (John Roberts and ?) Vocal Clinic (Lisa Null) Songs about whores (Mary Sullivan) Paired songwriting (Ernie Johnson) Songwriters' showcase Country Jam Blues Mountain songs ...and lots more! I for one can hardly wait! See you there! Nancy |
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01 Oct 07 - 03:31 PM (#2161352) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GUEST,Nancy King at work Refresh |
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01 Oct 07 - 07:23 PM (#2161481) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Fortunato Looks good, Miss Nancy. cheers, chance |
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02 Oct 07 - 02:16 AM (#2161647) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Linda Goodman Zebooker Yay, Several things I was hoping for, but didn't realize they were possiblilites. Looks wonderful as always. --Linda |
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08 Oct 07 - 11:17 PM (#2167000) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Janie As the excitement builds.... |
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17 Oct 07 - 01:44 PM (#2173089) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Linda Goodman Zebooker In addition to all the wonderful programming at the Getaway, there's also the magic music-making that happens at least partially spontaneously all around the place. And last year, being the first year at the much smaller West River, that part didn't flow anywhere near as well as it was able to do in the bigger more rambling buildings at Camp Ramblewood (the only other Getaway site I have known). At West River there just seemed to be all this spiky furniture in the way, or things took place in unknown-to-most locations where you wouldn't just happen along and decide to stay (like outside a bathroom deep in the interior of the main lodge). An obvious jam ran in the main building much of the time, but there were so many other activities going on on top of it, there almost wasn't any room to join, especially on the edges, and it was hard to hear. Last year the weather outside was unusually cold even for that time of year, meaning no outside jamming - but the temperature inside all the buildings was super-hot, as no one seemed able to adjust the heat below about 85 degrees- that added to the difficulty. While this subject isn't exactly "program", these free-flow things are often what you remember and love the most years and years later, so I'm posting here, rather than the other Getaway "kibbitzing" thread. I've been thinking about this problem all year, and still don't have any very good solutions to offer. I just visited a folk weekend at a gorgeous facility in New Jersey that only put this in sharper focus for me. Made me want to tear my hair out with envy, but aside from towing that camp itself a couple of hundred miles south, it wouldn't help. I've only been able to come up with two ideas that might improve things. One is to have jam locations announced somehow, verbally or written. I know we are still building new West River traditions, so on Friday it might not be known where things in addition to the moderated singaround are happening, and people should just know to feel free to open closed doors and explore around. But by Saturday music-makers will probably have made some plans. If, for example, there's going to be a late-night jam in PAX, there should be a way to let everyone know. Also, perhaps people knowing they can and should be aggressive in moving clanking furniture around, even if doing so is temporarily noisy and there's already some music going on, would be helpful. (at appropriate pauses, of course) Charlie Baum's wonderful announcement to "Go forth and make music" just might not be sufficient anymore. There was some talk of a new Dining Hall being built. Did that ever happen? And SUNDAY night singing in the main building was so wonderful. I hope, hope, hope IT happens just the same this year. Linda, who's loves the Getaway and is still trying to like West River |
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17 Oct 07 - 11:21 PM (#2173382) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Janie Eagerly awaiting the schedule, (and knowing the program committee is at least as eager to get it finalized!). Linda, I know just what you mean. The buildings at West River are simply not set up to allow the organic 'flow' that characterized Ramblewood. More privacy. More creature comforts. Grounds much easier to navigate for people with mobility issues. More barriers to inclusiveness and cameraderie. Janie |
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17 Oct 07 - 11:53 PM (#2173385) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GutBucketeer I think that once they get the idea across to actually pay attention to folks request to be in or not be in a jam cabin then much of the problem s can be solved. If we have the whole facility another option would be to simply have one of the cabins be a performance/jam and storage space. We could store instruments in the bedrooms, and play all night and not bother anyone. Jim Bunch Hoping to make it this year. I may have to be a day tripper. |
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18 Oct 07 - 12:17 AM (#2173391) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Charlie Baum Alas, the new dining hall isn't quite ready yet. (Next year, though!) There will be jaming spaces in the retreat center lounge, the retreat center commons, the dining room, the nature center. If the weather holds and it's warm like it's been so far, there will be lots of outdoor spaces, and in 2008, we're movingback into October! I'm not sure about the other cabins late at night--we need to see how many people need quiet. Actually at Ramblewood, there was hidden jamming--you wouldn't have known about the jam in cabin 15-16-17-18 (or whatever the number was--what was sometimes called "Mudcatville") unless you stumbled across it or someone told you about it. After a few years, people came to expect jamming there, and it was easier to find. At Camp Letts, you always had to run back and forth from the Boathouse to the Dining Room to Letts Lodge to the other places where music was happening. When jams congeal spontaneously, you can't announce in advance where they will happen. Only experience will allow you to guess where they MIGHT be occurring. --Charlie Baum |
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18 Oct 07 - 06:01 PM (#2174007) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Fortunato Charlie, if a jam CONGEALS, there is something terribly wrong. I know the folkies are aging but that sounds too much like arteries hardening. Personally I prefer the term "come together" or "enjoin" or damn near anything but congeal. (With all due respect, of course) |
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18 Oct 07 - 06:34 PM (#2174028) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: ClaireBear If a jam congeals, it simply has too much pectin in it. Could a jam coalesce, perhaps? And, speaking of jams, that reminds me -- I have a question about instruments at the Getaway. It's a subjective question, but I'd appreciate advice. Background: I am primarily a singer. In addition... 1. I play dulcimer pretty well, but the small one is out for repair and won't likely be back in time for the Getaway; the large one is bulky and hasn't got a good case. 2. I also play duet concertina more or less adequately, but my squeezer is a temperamental antique and at the moment is geographically inconvenient. I'd just as soon not bring it. 3. I play tenor uke, but only as a rank beginner. This instrument at least has a pretty good case, so I could conceivably bring it, but I'm not good enough at it yet to get a great deal of joy out of letting anyone hear me play it. (I play harp a bit, too, but let's not even go there!) For all of the above reasons, my voice is the only instrument I've planned to bring to the Getaway. As long as I can stay singing, I'll be happy. So tell me, will I find a sufficiency of areas where a singing voice is all that's required, or am I likely to be highly frustrated by the fact that I don't have an instrument to join into a jam with? Thanks for your input, Claire |
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18 Oct 07 - 06:58 PM (#2174046) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: GUEST,Barry Hi ClaireBear I find that for myself I am completely happy not to bring an instrument along. Seeing as I only play the bodhran, most folks are happy that I find enough singing that it completely satisfies my soul. Barry |
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18 Oct 07 - 07:10 PM (#2174053) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: ClaireBear Excellent -- then I needn't go out and purchase a shaky egg for the journey. (Kidding!) Thank you, Barry, that is exactly what I hoped to hear. Claire |
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18 Oct 07 - 08:45 PM (#2174108) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: beardedbruce There will be some extra instruments around, to borrow as needed. Send a list of what you might want.... |
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18 Oct 07 - 11:21 PM (#2174175) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Charlie Baum The Getaway is a great place for voice-only people! And if perchance you need an instrumental accompaniment and someone proficient enough to provide it for you, you'll find those, too. --Charlie Baum |
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19 Oct 07 - 08:52 AM (#2174422) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: MMario will I find a sufficiency of areas where a singing voice is all that's required, or am I likely to be highly frustrated by the fact that I don't have an instrument oh boy will you find areas where a singing voice is all that's required! At least if it's anything like the Getaways I've attended. and - I've even heard instrumental jams where voices were raised as part of the instrumentation (wordless - and haunting!) |
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19 Oct 07 - 11:37 AM (#2174532) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: ClaireBear Sounds like my idea of heaven (no harp to carry...and believe me, I've had enough experience of that to last an eternity!) C |
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19 Oct 07 - 07:47 PM (#2174892) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Bill D I've heard harps are what you GET for eternity...(there is often a harp at Getaway...sometimes two) |
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26 Oct 07 - 10:33 AM (#2179698) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning From: Nancy King All right, people, we've finally whipped this thing into shape! Here is the schedule for this year's Getaway! This link takes you to Saturday's schedule, which contains a link at the top that will take you to Sunday. And Dean has incorporated a very cool feature which allows you to place your cursor on a workshop name and see the descriptive blurb. Do note that the schedule is still subject to change, though we really don't have leeway to change it much. If you are a workshop leader and we have you scheduled in two places at once, then we'll change it. If you just want to be in two places at once, well, join the club. We've tried to have somewhat fewer workshops, with some of them longer than in the past, which should help people catch at least parts of the sessions they're interested in. Remember all that talk earlier in this thread about "paired songwriting"? Well, we're going to try it. Folks will sign up when they arrive (or anytime until Saturday lunch), pairs will be assigned -- drawn from a hat -- right after lunch, and then you'll have 24 hours or so to come up with a song to be presented at the workshop on Sunday afternoon. And Jacqui is putting together a mummers play to be presented at the Saturday evening concert -- if you'd like to be part of it, just come to the rehearsal workshop on Saturday afternoon. Of course there's lots more as well: all of your old favorites like ballads, sea songs, and Gospel, plus plenty of new topics as well. I think it looks great! See you all at the Getaway! Nancy |
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26 Oct 07 - 06:15 PM (#2180051) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning (with schedule!) From: Bill D Ok...thanks! I kinda like slightly fewer, but longer, workshops. There's something for everyone, as usual! And all the late night stuff, too.... (and it will probably help having the concerts both in the dining hall, leaving the Retreat Center lounge in its basic setup...) |
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26 Oct 07 - 07:39 PM (#2180105) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning (with schedule!) From: ranger1 Cool! But where's the cloning workshop? |
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26 Oct 07 - 07:47 PM (#2180115) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning (with schedule!) From: Janie Looks Great!....wait....except.....AAaarrrghhhhhhh......what? Oh. OK. Nevermind. I can catch the last half hour of the Gospel workshop:>) Thanks all y'all on the Program Committee, for pulling together another great selection and schedule. Janie |
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26 Oct 07 - 08:16 PM (#2180145) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning (with schedule!) From: Amos Once again your mastery of suspense and conflict leading to an ultimate resolution and revelation has shown itself. Once agaoin you cleverly set challenges requiring folkies to rise above themselves and perform out of body feats of wonder. A |
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27 Oct 07 - 10:19 AM (#2180431) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning (with schedule!) From: Dan Schatz What a wonderful weekend it will be. Thanks to the intrepid Program Committee for all the work - I know that it really did take a LOT of work to juggle everyone's schedules and preferences. Dan |
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27 Oct 07 - 01:16 PM (#2180518) Subject: RE: Getaway 2007 program planning (with schedule!) From: Linda Goodman Zebooker The schedule looks WONDERFUL. Some of the people and workshops I missed last year, and things I requested are there. I like the much longer workshops - they will allow participants to not have such wrenching decisions to make. And with the smaller spaces at West River, the longer workshops will let you be free-er to come and go without feeling like you are letting the performer/leaders down by walking out halfway. So nice to see Joe Offer and Janie leading workshops. And Gordon Bok!!! Thanks to the Program Committee, and to all the brave and kindly souls giving their time to lead the workshops-- I hope you have as much fun. --Linda |