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11 Jul 07 - 04:18 AM (#2099533) Subject: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: Megan L Gioks cabbage thread made me think of something else we often said. "An optomist see the glass as half full. Apesimist sees it as half empty." It made me wonder what are you today? half full or half empty. Mind you according to dauvitt there is a third option "Whit blighter pinched the flamin glass." |
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11 Jul 07 - 04:27 AM (#2099543) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: skipy Maybe the glass was made too big for the job. Skipy |
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11 Jul 07 - 06:08 AM (#2099589) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: GUEST,PMB Surely you mean "an optometrist sees the glasses half full", that's because they put a slide over one eye when they are testing you. And "Apesimist" must be the chimps I didn't see. |
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11 Jul 07 - 06:21 AM (#2099596) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: McGrath of Harlow Pedantic spellcheck: optimist, pessimist... |
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11 Jul 07 - 06:41 AM (#2099609) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: jacqui.c Glass half full for me, but Kendall has called me a Pollyana..... |
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11 Jul 07 - 06:45 AM (#2099612) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: Catherine Jayne Glass is half full for me too. |
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11 Jul 07 - 06:45 AM (#2099613) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: beardedbruce I thought it was half-empty when you went to drink it, but half-full when you knocked it over. |
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11 Jul 07 - 06:53 AM (#2099621) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: jacqui.c I have a friend who says that it's the wrong sized glass. |
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11 Jul 07 - 07:03 AM (#2099631) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: Geoff the Duck Better to be a pessimist. Things can only get better than you expect... And if they don't, there's the satisfaction of being right! For an optimist, things can only get worse. Quack! GtD. as for the half empty pint - Barman, I think this one needs a top-up! |
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11 Jul 07 - 09:09 AM (#2099712) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: wysiwyg My usual orientation is this (which I made up myself): I am not an optiminst. I persist against discouragement, but I am not optimistic. ~S~ |
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11 Jul 07 - 09:12 AM (#2099714) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: beardedbruce "Better to be a pessimist. Things can only get better than you expect... And if they don't, there's the satisfaction of being right! For an optimist, things can only get worse." True wisdom!!!!! A pessimist is never disappointed: and optimist usually is. |
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11 Jul 07 - 09:56 AM (#2099762) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: Amos IT is not wisdom if your highest goal is to avoid disappointment. An optimist also sees hope for the future and ways to make things better, which inspires and enlivens his life in ways the pessimist cannot experience, having cut himself off from his own creative powers. Of course, these things come in many flavors. I, too, get cynical in the face of unreasoning exuberance. But nevertheless I have a strong belief in the fundamental postive impact of life striving against chaos and entropy. A |
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11 Jul 07 - 10:11 AM (#2099773) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: artbrooks Drink the half glass, then fill it up again. |
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11 Jul 07 - 12:34 PM (#2099913) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: Ebbie Ladies and gentlemen, the president of the United States: "I think that the vice president is a person reflecting a half-glass-full mentality." --George W. Bush, interview on National Public Radio, Jan. 29, 2007 |
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11 Jul 07 - 04:26 PM (#2100165) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: McGrath of Harlow All depends what the glass contained in the first place. With some drinks half empty sounds better than half full. ........................................ Chesterton once wrote in this connection: "Upon the whole, I came to the conclusion that the optimist thought everything good except the pessimist, and that the pessimist thought everything bad, except himself." But as a preferred alternative he wrote "An optimist is a man who looks after your eyes, and a pessimist is a man who looks after your feet." |
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11 Jul 07 - 05:00 PM (#2100196) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: Mrrzy If you're filling the glass, at halfway it's half full. If you are emptying the glass, at halfway it's half empty. The optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, and the pessimist fears that that's true. Then there was something about a realist but I don't remember the quote... |
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12 Jul 07 - 02:39 PM (#2100896) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: rehab1 Half empty been there, half full been there. We can handle empty but, can we handle half full, or overflowing. That is, can we really allow ourselves to be poss and not neg. We live in language. People say often it was too good to be true, but, it might have been if they just went with it. The active, alive man is like a vessel that grows as it is filled and will never be full. From...Fromm talking about what Blakney said of us. Have not read him in decades thanks to Megan fell upon it today. |
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12 Jul 07 - 11:34 PM (#2101250) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: GUEST,Victoria The glass is half full of piss. |
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12 Jul 07 - 11:54 PM (#2101262) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: GUEST,Mickey191 I'm viewing it as half empty. I've been under a dark cloud for months now. Don't tell me to cheer up old girl. All of the bad things have been under the control of others. However, they've affected me adversly--and it continues on. And in about 8 minutes it will be Friday the 13th! Oh Joy!!! |
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13 Jul 07 - 12:03 AM (#2101265) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: John O'L I have a pair of glasses. One is half full, the other half is empty. The other is half empty, being full to halfway. I pour from one to the other and drink the lot in one, then drink what's left in the other. I take away the glass I first thought of. Where was I? |
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13 Jul 07 - 03:24 AM (#2101335) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: JennyO Pissed as usual :-) |
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13 Jul 07 - 03:42 AM (#2101344) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: Bert Well don't cheer up old girl then Mickey191 if you don't wanna. But we love you anyway. |
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13 Jul 07 - 04:36 AM (#2101375) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: George Papavgeris Half full definitely. And I am very pleased with that, because half a glass is all I wanted in the first place. On this subject, my second most favourite quote, from Les Barker: "Always borrow from a pessimist. He doesn't expect it back". And my favourite quote, from Oscar Wilde: "An optimist believes that this is the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist believes the same". |
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13 Jul 07 - 10:52 AM (#2101618) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: Barry Finn I've always been pathologically affirmative, if the glass is only half full give it a chance & it will overflow in no time at all. Barry |
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13 Jul 07 - 11:13 AM (#2101641) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: autolycus Then there is the self-fulfilling prophecy syndrome. I leave you to fill in the missing bits of that thought, or somebody helpful will. Ivor |
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13 Jul 07 - 12:24 PM (#2101707) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: frogprince This from rehab1, "People say often it was too good to be true, but, it might have been if they just went with it", brought this to mind. |
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13 Jul 07 - 12:26 PM (#2101712) Subject: RE: BS: Optomistic pesimist From: GUEST,Mickey191 Thanks Bert! Feelin' Fair to Midlin at the moment. |