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01 Aug 07 - 02:07 PM (#2116664) Subject: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble What joy! We finally received a box of the new CD which JudyB and I helped produce for Barry Finn and Neil Downey, who cruise under the name Finn & Haddie. The CD is titled FATHOM THIS and includes 23 tracks: 1-Roller Bowler 2-Yangtse River Shanty 3-Heavy Cruiser 4-Schooner Industry 5-Ida Lewis 6-Fine Time of Day 7-London Julie 8-Hard Times in Ol' Virginia 9-Main Royal Yard 10-One More Day 11-Hell of a Wedding 12-Good Ol' Brig 13-Bowline 14-Ranzo Rae 15-Coal Black Rosie 16-Good-Bye My Lover Good-Bye 17-Feeny Brown 18-Good-Bye My Riley-O 19-Albertina 20-Priests & Nuns 21-Georgie Me Neck A-Broke 22-Saltpeter Shanty 23-St. Peter Down at Courland Bay All songs are sung traditional style without accompaniment, but there is harmony added. Barry and Neil have included a great variety of song from traditional, to songs adapted from poems, to original compositions. There are sea shanties, forebitters, songs from the West Indies, navy songs, and even one song based on an old sailors folk opera. I've been listening to a draft of this CD for the past 7 months, and I never get tired of it. CD's may be ordered by contacting Barry Finn at his website (http://www.finnandhaddie.com) or by e-mail (finfam41@verizon.net). Nice to see this CD finally launched! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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01 Aug 07 - 08:10 PM (#2116947) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: curmudgeon Really looking forward to hearing this one - no ****ing rogue's gallery shite, I'm sure. And even if you did forget to mention your performances at the Portsmouth Maritime Folk Festival on your website, we still love you - Tom & Linn |
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01 Aug 07 - 08:25 PM (#2116953) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Azizi Here's the clicky for Barry Finn's website: http://www.finnandhaddie.com However, the "buy the cd" link didn't work for me. Maybe it's my computer or maybe that link isn't functioning yet [??] Prior to joining Mudcat, I didn't know anything about shanties. Thanks to Charley Noble, Barry Finn, and others here, I've taken steps to learn more about this music and its history & culture. I'm definitely gonna purchase this CD! There ain't nothin like the real thing, baby! |
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01 Aug 07 - 09:05 PM (#2116997) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: GUEST,Art Thieme Will be ordering! Art |
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01 Aug 07 - 10:47 PM (#2117027) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: GUEST,bbc on vacation Oh, congratulations, Barry! This is good news. Naturally, I will be buying one. love, Barbara |
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01 Aug 07 - 11:23 PM (#2117050) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: SINSULL Tried to order on the website but no luck. Any chance of a house concert to introduce the CD, Barry? I believe I can produce a crowd of rowdies for it. M |
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01 Aug 07 - 11:42 PM (#2117059) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: TRUBRIT Mary -- you are way ahead of me -- just what I was going to ask.........seems like a perfect reason for a House concert to me......... |
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02 Aug 07 - 03:40 PM (#2117604) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Dave Ruch Barry - I want one too! I'll try your email address as provided above. |
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02 Aug 07 - 04:21 PM (#2117644) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: katlaughing Me, too! Please post a workable link or place to send money? Thanks! |
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02 Aug 07 - 04:32 PM (#2117661) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble I spoke with Barry today about his website and he acknowleded that it was a work in progress. His e-mail address listed on the website is good and he is aware of this thread. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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02 Aug 07 - 04:46 PM (#2117675) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: GUEST,Pamela in Ithaca Whoo-hoo! This has been a long time birthing and I'm glad to add my congrats! Barry, I'm gonna want a signed copy. Maybe we'll see you in Maine, toward the end of Aug. at the houseconcert Dave and I'll be doing? Bring copies with you. cheers, Pamela |
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02 Aug 07 - 04:54 PM (#2117688) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Janie STanding inline! Janie |
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02 Aug 07 - 07:16 PM (#2117817) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: GUEST,Art Thieme Just put my check in the mail! Art |
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02 Aug 07 - 11:12 PM (#2117947) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Barry Finn Thanks for all the interest guys. The site is still under construction, obviously. It's being set up with paypal but I don't know how long that'll take. If any one wants they can PM or e-mail me & I'll send along costs & where to mail checks to ifyou want one. Thanks Barry |
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02 Aug 07 - 11:49 PM (#2117962) Subject: Lyr Add: ROLLER BOWLER + YANGTZE RIVER SHANTY etc. From: Barry Finn For anyone that's interested here are the old CD notes & lyrics which I'll try & put up on my site when I can. 1. Roller Bowler; I got this from Polish shanty singer Marek Siurawski, who was something of a first mate of the Polish wishbone schooner Zawisza Czarny during the 1992 tall ship's parade in Boston Harbor. Hugill has this in his "Shanties of the Seven Seas", though slightly different. It was used at the capstan. Hugill says it's a "Negro-Irish type of sailor work-song". Cecil Sharp also collected a version of this. I also have to thank John Townely for reacquainting me with Marek's version years later. Roller Bolwler (Alternate title: Good Morning, Ladies All) As I roved out one mornin' Ch: Away, you roller bowler! As I roved out one mornin' I met a dou-dou fair Ch:Timme, hey-rig-a-jig, a jig-jig-a ha-ha Good morning ladies all Full Chorus: Away, you roller bowler Timme, hey-rig-a-jig, a jig-jig-a ha-ha! Good mornin', ladies all Oh, the first time that I met her Oh, the first time that I met her That saucy gal of mine She winked and flipped her flipper She winked and flipped her flipper She thought I was a Mate But when she found that I was a skint But when she found that I was a skint She left me standing there The last time that I saw her The last time that I saw her Was down the waterside Oh, you ladies short and ladies tall Oh, you ladies short and ladies tall I love you one and all 2. Yangtse River Shanty;(words:Hamish Maclaren, Sailor with a Banjo,©1930) 3:08(Barry) I got this from Charlie Ipcar of Maine. It comes from the pen of Hamish Maclaren and his 1930 folk opera "Sailor With A Banjo". Charlie adapted this to make it more singable and gave it a better life by setting it to a great tune for which he's too modest to take credit. I adapted it a bit further to be sung at the capstan. Yangtze River Shanty My lotus lady, I'll see no more, Ch: Away, boys, a-way-o! Since I left her on the China shore, Ch: A-way, boys, lift and walk a-way! Gand Chorus: Away boys a-way-o blow Blown me down that Yangtze River A-way boys lift and walk away When we first met, she was like a queen, A-way, boys, a-way-o! Prettiest little thing I'd ever seen, A-way, boys, lift and walk a-way! (CHO) She'd flashing eyes and long black hair, A-way, boys, a-way-o! All I could do was stand and stare, A-way, boys, lift and walk a-way! (CHO) I bought her silks and a golden comb, A-way, boys, a-way-o! Trouble's over now, the anchor's home, A-way, boys, lift and walk a-way! ( CHO) I blowed my silver for to win her, A-way, boys, a-way-o! Now there's nothing left but donkey's dinner, A-way, boys, lift and walk a-way! (CHO) We're homeward bound, cookie's in the galley, A-way, boys, a-way-o! Farewell, Young Moon, of the Yangtze Valley, A-way, boys, lift and walk a-way! (CHO) 3. Heavy Cruiser Written for the Cruiser, the USS Salem, where we spent the weekend in Boston Harbor during a Tall Ship's parade. The reference to "we were a "4.0 war machine" refers to the ships inspection & performance, in this case making it a perfect war machine. Heavy Cruiser Oh, when I was young & in my prime I wanted to sail on a ship of the line, (2X) So I signed on a heavy cruiser Chorus: So gunners spin your turrets round And let me hear that battle sound We'll meet the enemy & we'll take him down With the guns of a heavy cruiser When I was a lad just like you I proudly wore the navy blue (2X) When I served on a heavy cruiser Though we were only 17 We were a four-0 war machine (2X) And the crew of a navy cruiser For many yrs we sailed the seas Preserving peace & liberty A mighty force for all to see The mighty heavy cruiser And now I'm old & turning grey Long ago I stowed my blues away But I still stand tall & proudly say I served on this heavy cruiser 4. Schooner Industry My friend, great singer/musician & writer of sea songs & shanties, Jerry Bryant dug this up from the log of the Industry & culled it down from 40 verses to eight. Jerry put this to a traditional tune, without the chorus, as he found it. The tune here is from Neil Downey as well as its new chorus. Historically I've found the song very accurate & from the report of the Commissioners of Fish & Fisheries where in the remarks column it has the crew as "manned wholly by blacks" as well as the brig Traveler also mentioned in this song. Absalom S. Boston a Nantucketer, land owner, inn keeper & merchant put to sea at the age of 15 in 1800 & retired from sea after this voyage. He was married to the granddaughter of the famous Black/Indian sea captain Paul Cuffe who also commanded & owned a brig by the same name of Traveler only 7 yrs earlier, most likely they are one in the same although I've yet to verify this. Interestingly enough the Bostons were also no strangers to litigation. His uncle Prince Boston, a slave sailor was the first on Nantucket to sue for his ships pay & won. Absalom himself sued the state of Massachusetts on behalf of his daughter & niece for school integration of the state school on Nantucket & won, this being a first time in the nation. I'd like to thank Jerry for his blessing to record this gem. Schooner Industry Come all you noble colored tars, that plow the raging main Come & listen to my story boys, a thing that is quite strange It was on the 8th of May, me boys, 1822 A schooner from Nantucket, boys with all a colored crew A.S. Boston was commander & him we will obey We took our anchor on the bow intending to go to sea We hauled out for the Great Point Light till we got our barings on Then hauled about for east south east till the daylight did dawn Chorus; So it's hauling away for Boston boys & I do not mean the town You can cheers a ring as we sail into the sound They say this whaling's slavery but we are freemen all So haul for Captain Boston boys, haul on your mainsail haul We haul out for the westward were we intended to cruise awhile Thence for the western Islands in the hopes to get some oil A whaling voyage intended that we did mean to pursue On board the schooner Industry, 14 was all our crew O the 4th day of July, my boys, as you will understand It was off between the isles, my boys, we had a noble gam There were brigs & ships & schooners, the captains all dandy men They all dined aboard the brig Traveler, Joseph Warren in command Chorus We agreed to cruise together, boys until some else prevailed On the 10th day of July, my boys, we raised a noble whale We lowered away our boast, my boys, to the leeward we did row Our second mate having the chase, up to her we did go Our consort's boat, the next came up hoping to get a lance She flew & fought at such a rate, they did not get the chance The whale now being pretty played out she then began to lag The other boats just turned about when we raise the bloody flag Chorus Now to conclude my ditty boys, bring an end unto my song A set of better sailors to a whaler, ne're belonged Here's a health to Captain Boston, his officers & crew And if he gets another craft to sea with him I'll go 5. Ida Lewis I wrote this after reading about Ida Lewis in the book 'Women Who Kept The Lights' by Mary L & J Candace Clifford. I give thanks to them for the inspiration for this song. IDA LEWIS Ida Lewis left Newport at the age of 15, Moved onto Lime Light Rock in the 1850's Her father was a captain, now keeper of the light Soon the duties fell on Ida to keep the lamps burning bright. Her sisters & brother she'd row to school every day In a small open lifeboat across the rough bay From his wheelchair her father would watch through the storms In horror as Ida would row the children back home. Renowned for her skills no matter the weather At swimming or rowing no man was her better At the age of 16 she had saved 4 men's' lives By the time she retired she had saved 25 There are saints on the water & demons in the sea One & all they praised Ida for her great bravery On the very night this women died, who had lived on the shoals Every bell on every boat in Newport did toll Now they've renamed that rock the Ida Lewis Rock Light And in her honor today the lights are still burning bright But sometimes at night when it's rough & it's cold Some claim to see Ida pulling boys from the foam. 6. Fine Time of Day A British West Indian rowing shanty that Neil found in the Roger D. Abraham's collection "Deep The Water Shallow The Shore". FINE TIME 0' DAY Hur-rah hur-rah me bully boys Ch:Fine time o' day We pull for St Thomas, boys St Thomas have them pretty boys Nancy Gibbs & Betsy Braid Hur-rah hur-rah me bully boys We pull for St Thomas, boys Massa come from London Town Massa he's a handsome man Massa chase the pretty girls He catch 'em in the cane break Catch 'em an' he squeeze 'em Hur-rah hur-rah me bully boys We pull for St Thomas, boys 7. London Julie Another shanty I got from Marek Siurawshi during the same tall ships parade in Boston Harbor. He was playing concertina & the schooner was motoring from the dockside while the cadets were making ready to set sail. This is the first shanty he sang as work got underway and the crew was quite comfortable performing their duties to this shanty. This can be found in both the Carpenter & the Gordon collections. I rewrote the verses, originally I had only some of the usual filler verses from Marek and felt it needed better than just the usual floating filler verses. I believe this came to Marek from Roy Harris by way of a woman shanty singer, whose name I can't find. London Julie We went for a loving walk Ch: Aha, me London Julie! And we had such a loving talk Ch: Aha, me London Julie! Grand Chorus: Julianna, Julianna, where do you go? Aha, me London Julie! Julianna, Julianna, where do you go? Aha, me London Julie! She took me to her favorite park And we stayed there 'til after dark Full Chorus She said that she'd be true to me She spent me money fast and free As soon as I put out to sea A soldier took her on his knee 8. Hard Times in Ol Virginia I got this from the Georgia Sea Island Singers CD on Lomax's Southern Journey collection "Earliest Times vol.13. Lydia Parrish in her "Slave Songs of the Georgia Sea Islands" has a version of this and says what she has is a combination of the shanty 'Hard Times in Ole Virginny', the religious song "Aye Lord, Budding on the Fig Tree" and a dance song, "My Ole Missus Promise Me". Hard Times In Ol Virginia Hard Times In Old Virginia My ol misses is a rich ol lady Ch: Hard times in ol Virginia Seven servants around her table Ch: Hard times in ol Virginia Grand Chorus: Oh, in ol Virginia Hard times in ol Virginia Oh, in ol Virginia Hard times in ol Virginia My ol misses is a rich ol lady Ch: Hard times in ol Virginia Seven servants to care for the baby Ch: Hard times in ol Virginia Go to the well gonna draw some water Get a bucket gonna go tomorrow My ol misses, now she promised me When she die she gonna set me free 9. Main Royal Yard My ol misses now she grow so old All the hair on her head go bald Get some corn lay it down by the fire Get some corn watch the fire grow higher My ol misses is a rich ol lady seven servants to roll the baby round, sir 9. Main Royal Yard This gem is another familiar story, from Neil, of a woman having her way with a sailor in port only in this case the mutual consent and out come has an agreeable ending. The Main Royal Yard As I walked out one morning down by the Boston Docks I met a pretty young Judy there & after a line of talk She throws her arms around me waist & says me jolly tar How I'd like to see your lofty ship & her main royal yard Refrain: The main royal yard & her main royal (repeat the last line of each verse as the refrain) How I'd like to see your lofty ship & her main royal yard Says I to me self such a strange request has never been put to me What interest would this Judy have in a ship that sails the sea Excepting for me six months pay for which I've worked so hard And what's this silly fascination with the main royal So as we walked aboard the ship watch he winks at we Are you sick of the shore so soon me lad are you looking to go to sea To sea your ass says I with a grin but don't be laughing to hard For this lassie is wanting to climb aloft to the main royal yard So it's off with her petty coats one by one & her velvet slippers too Then up aloft as sure as hell exposing a lovely view And soon she's up to royal shrouds as soon as any tar And a prettier sailor I never did see on the main royal yard Says I to myself I must be daft to allow such a thing to be When all of a sudden this lassie aloft starts spitting down at me She give to me a saucy wink likewise a saucy nod And she hollers now Jack come frolic with me on the main royal yard Now the moon was so romantic a shinning on the bay And the wind was blowing east nor' east as she let me have me way Soon we'll have a little baby & he'll be a jolly tar For you know he was conceived up on the main royal yard 10. One More Day I got this great capstan shanty from Susanne Friend formely of San Francisco. Her version would be much more suited to the capstan than some other versions I've heard as this makes use of the full chorus & it's tempo matching the required work. I'm still grateful for her gift of this song and her patience in teaching it to me. My gift of a bottle of wine I'm sure, didn't get as much mileage as I've received singing this song. One More Day Oh row me 'cross the river I heard a maiden say Oh row me to me lover One more day Chorus: Only one more day, my Johnnys One more day Oh rock and roll me over, one more day I'm nearly broken hearted I can no longer stay Once more must we be parted One more day I see the sea birds flyin' Ashore from o'er the bay I felt they were all cryin' One more day The sea birds take the warnin' Which one and all obey The tempest now is stormin' One more day Oh do not fear my beauty I can no longer stay For love makes way for duty One more day It's many seas I've roamed love Er'e I return to say To say with you my beauty One more day 11. Hell of a Wedding Or Monkey Married the Baboon's Daughter is a BWI used at the oars. It originated out of the 19th century music hall tradition. This here, according to Roger D Abrahams "is a parody, at least in part, of 'The Frog And The Mouse. Another one Neil got from Roger Abrahams's collection "Deep the Water Shallow the Shore". Hell Of A Wedding Hell of a Wedding on the Congo River. Oh, what a hell of a wedding over Congo River Monkey married to the Baboon's daughter Chorus: Way, hey, hey, me bully boys What do you think they had for their dinner (rest, no chorus) Mosquito, gull and sandfly liver Who do you think do the ceremony Black fish King do the ceremony Who do you think do the music for them Cavalie band and the drum fish playing Monkey get up to take the rice (rest, no chorus) Baboon say, ``Leave the rice alone'' (rest, co chorus) Baboon get up to stake the cake (rest, no chorus) Monkey say, ``leave me might take along'' Where do you think they take holiday Out on a raft on Montigo Bay What do you think that they do on the water Monkey & Baboon fight to the slaughter What do you think that they have for supper (rest, no chorus) Black fish tail and a dip in the scuppers What a hell of a wedding on the Congo River Monkey married to the baboon's daughter. 12. Good Ol Brig I collected this rarely sung shanty while acting as honorary shantyman and a sometime volunteer aboard the brig Carthaginian at Lahina, Maui in 1979. There I met George Herbert, an old Cape Horner who had stopped to visit friend Drake Thomas who was working on the Carthaginian. He sang this shanty as well as others during his stay. I believe he picked this up while working the Baltic trades as a boy just prior to WWI. Hugill has a Norwegian version of this pump shanty in his "Songs of the Sea". You'll find in listening to this, that the lead voice alternates the third line some of the time. The reason is because when I first recorded George he sang it one way and 15 years later sent me a home recording of him singing it slightly different. Good Old Brig From London to Denmark we shipped aboard a brig Her timbers all were holy, pulp it was her rig Chorus: So let the breezes blow, she's old & slow We'll float across to Germany & shirk & lay below Our foresail was all torn, we hadn't any thread We grabbed the skipper's pants & hoisted them instead We hadn't got a compass, we knew our way by smell And if we went off course, the skipper would ring a bell We hadn't got a lantern, to see us through the dark The skipper's nose was bright enough to scare off any shark The wheelhouse it was rotten, it made the rats amused The only thing we had to spin was granny's spinning wheel We should've sighted Hamburg a week ago it seems When the lookout shouted strike me pink we've sighted Barbary So we got ourselves a tugboat, we towed that brig astern And if we ever reach Hamburg some day we will return 13. Bowline This version comes from the Bahamas & can be found on the Lomax's collection 'Deep River of Song Bahamas 1935. Roy Harris also recorded a similar version. The Bowline Haul So long, my boys, you been to sea You cannot tie a bowline Ch: Haul on the bowline the bowline haul So long, my boys, you been to sea You cannot tie a bowline Ch: Haul on the bowline, the bowline haul Grand Chorus: The bowline, the bowline, you cannot tie a bowline Haul on the bowline the bowline haul Well, breeze & storm & sun & rain I never seen/find a girl like Lucy Jane I pulled her dress above her knee She says "young man now let me be" I'll tell me Ma when I get home These Windward gals won't leave me 'lone They spend me money so quick on shore Pack me bags, to sea once more You say you've been to sea long time You ain't worth a bloody dime 14. Ranzo Rae I first heard this halyard shanty by sung Dick Holdstock & Alan MacLeod & later had to swipe it off their CD "Deep Water Shanties". Hugill has this as Afro American in origin. This version's verses come from a variety of sources. Ranzo Rae I'm bound away to leave you, I never will deceive you, Ch: Ranzo ranzo, hurray hurray! I'm bound away to please you, my half-pay I will leave you. Ch: Hilo my Ranzo Rae We're bound for Yokahama with a load of grand pianos, We're bound for Bonas Airees with a bunch o' green canaries We're bound for Valpariser with a load of rusty razors, We're bound for Venezuela with a crew of drunken tailors, We're loaded down with curios from China and the Indgo-s We're bound for Santiager with a load of German lager, We're outward bound from Rio, with a load of stinking guano We're going past Giberralterr an' our carger's bricks an' mortar We're heading into London, with a load of soggy cotton We'll pass the cliffs of Dover, and then we'll be in clover We've sailed the oceans over like a proper deep sea rover, The next time that I meet you, it's with kisses I will greet you 15. Coal Black Rosie Neil got this double pull halyard shanty from Tommy O'Sullivan while recording at sea on the Unicorn back in the early 80's. It was collected by both Bullen & Hugill, who says it's a pure"Negro ditty". Coal Black Rose Oh, me Rosie, coal black rose Ch: Don't ye hear the banjo Ping-a-pong-a-pong? Ch: On, me Rosie, Coal Black Rose! Oh, me Rosie, coal black Rose, Up aloft this yard must go Oh, me Rosie, coal black Rose, Oh, me Rosie, coal black Rose, Strung up like a banjo, Taut an' long, On, me Rosie, Coal Black Rose! Oh, me Rosie, coal black Rose, The yard is now a-movin', Hauley-hauley ho! On, me Rosie, Coal Black Rose! Oh, me Rosie, coal black Rose The Mate he comes around, boys, Dinging an'a dang. On, me Rosie, Coal Black Rose! Oh, me Rosie, coal black Rose Back in into it, boys, Rock an roll her high Oh, me Rosie, coal black Rose, Oh, me Rosie, coal black Rose, One more pull boys Rock & roll her high On, me Rosie, Coal Black Rose! Oh, me Rosie, coal black rose Don't ye hear the banjo Ping-a-pong-a-pong? Oh, me Rosie, coal black Rose, Oh, me Rosie, coal black Rose, Skipper's on the beach An he can't get none Oh, me Rosie, coal black Rose, Oh, me Rosie, coal black Rose, Up aloft this yard must go Oh, me Rosie, coal black Rose, Oh, me Rosie, coal black Rose, One more pull, boys, And then belay Oh, me Rosie, coal black Rose,. 16. Good-Bye My Lover Good-Bye I got this off friends Peter Kasin & Richard Adrianowicz's CD "Boldly From the Westward-Songs of the Sea". Versions of this Great Lakes capstan shanty can be found from Colcord, Tozer & Hugill, who sees it as probably being of "Negro" origin. Good-Bye My Lover Good-Bye He came on board in his Sunday clothes Ch: Good-bye, my lover, good-bye In his Sunday hat an' his Sunday hose Ch: Good-bye, my lover, good-bye Grand Chorus: Good-bye, good-bye my love Good-bye, my, good-bye A farmer boy stood on the deck He's eatin' peanuts by the peck He should a'stayed with his mules and plow He thinks the rudder's in the bow He walks the deck with farmer's feet He don't know a halyard from a sheet He thinks himself a hell of a tar As he pushes around the caps'n bar When the night winds blow and the seas do roar He'll curse the day he left the shore When the green seas roll across our deck He'll pray for the Lord to save his neck When the old ship rolls all day 'n' night It'll turn his face green, blue and white When he has to go aloft at night He'll soil his drawers in his awful fright He'll know aloft from down below Before we reach Buffalo 17. Feeny Brown I got this shanty in the early 1980's from Talithia (Nelson) MacKenzie, a friend formely of the Boston area & now of Scotland, with whom I'd occasionally sing with. Talithia is quite the shanty singer who has this shanty, I believe, from Roger Abrahams collection. Feeny Brown Fenny Brown is the belle of Bermuda Ch: Hy-o Feeny Fenny Brown is the belle of Bermuda Ch: Spend my money on Feeny Brown Grand Chorus: Give her a dollar an' she ask for another Hy-o, Fenny Give her a dollar & she ask another Spend my money on Feeny Brown Feeny Brown was a worldiest mulatta Feeny Brown was a worldiest mulatta Feeny Brown always chew tabacco Feeny Brown always chew tobacco Fenny Brown was a bright mulatta Feeny Brown was a bright mulatta 18. Good-Bye My Riley-O A shanty from the Georgia Sea Island Singers that can be found in Lydia Parrish's collection. Frankie Quimby tells me that "Riley's" the nickname of a slave driver who was leaving but being better than most of the drivers he was preferred by many and therefore would be missed. The nickname she said, was to hide his identity. Good-Bye My Riley-O Riley, Riley, where are you Ch: Oh, Riley, oh, man Riley, Riley, where are you Ch: Bye, bye my Riley, oh man Riley's gone to London Bay London Bay so far away Riley's gone to Liverpool Riley's gone & I'll go to Wish I was Captain Riley's son I'd stay at home & I'd drink good rum I thought I heard the captain say Tomorrow be our sailing day Riley, Riley, where are you Riley, Riley, where are you 19. Albertina Another rarely sung shanty that I collected from George Herbert. Hugill has this in his 'Songs of the Sea' as a Scandinavian capstan and pump shanty. Another version can be found in Hugill's 'Shanties of the Seven Seas'. George's version is sung as a pump shanty rather than at the capstan. Again I believe George picked this up while in the Baltic Trades as a youngster. Albertina They are building a ship in the northlands Albertina they will call her when she's done Ch: pump away Ch: Albertina, she will serve us,…. Albertina will preserve us,…. Albertina they will call her when she's done (repeating last line as refrain) pump away They say that she is ready & waiting She's loaded down with golden ale & wine….pump away They say that's is ready & waiting To take us all around the Horn They say she lies waiting at anchor To take us or'e the bounding main On the shore there are many hearts a weeping As we sail into the harbor safe & snug. They say that there's a sailors grave a waiting Beneath the ocean wide & blue 20. Priest & Nuns A pumping shanty from Jerry Bryant. Jerry resurrected this pump shanty from Frederick Pease Harlow's book, 'Chanteying Aboard American Ships'. Priests & Nuns A priest in Austria thought one day Ch:Ho,Ho,Ho He'd go to France without delay Ch: Hal-ler-al-le-rye. hal-ler-al-le-ray He'd go to France without delay Ch: Hal-ler-al-le-ray, Ho, Ho So when this father came to France Seven sick nuns he found by chance He saw these nuns in the convent yard All laying down on benches hard He gave these nuns his calling card And asked may I come in your yard To one he asked what he could I'm both priest & doctor too A sick nun then made quick reply Said father treat me ere I die With cane in hand a walking stick And he touched that nun so very quick The others ran that they could see And asked the priest what could that be A medicine stick in my hand I hold To cure all sick nuns in my fold Another nun that lay close by Cried father none so sick as I He treated all the nuns alike And said he'd call another night Their treasures gone they looked in vain For the priest that carried the medicine cane 21. Georgie, Me Neck A Broke This is a BWI shanty used more for lifting or shoving either a boat or house. Again, Neil got it from Roger D Abrahams's collection "Deep the Water Shallow the Shore". Georgie Me Neck –A- Broke Georgie, me neck –a-broke Ch: Hold 'em George I think me neck-a-broke Georgie, me neck-a-broke Ch: Hold 'en George I think me neck-a-broke Pull on the oar now Ch: I think me neck-a-broke Cut through the water Ch: I think me neck-a-broke Black fish rising Pull on the oar now Georgie, me neck –a-broke Hold 'em George I think me neck-a-broke Georgie, me neck –a-broke Hold 'em George I think me neck-a-broke Put in the stick now Put it on the loggerhead Pull on the oar now Don't you lose him Don't let him take you Georgie, me neck –a-broke Hold 'em George I think me neck-a-broke Georgie, me neck –a-broke Hold 'em George I think me neck-a-broke 22. Saltpeter Shanty I picked up the first verse & chorus in 1981 from a recording of the Critics Group, their version was called "Slav Ho". Unable to find more than the one verse I wrote a few more verses over the years. I came across David Parry singing this version at the Mystic Sea Music Festival in 1997, David led me to Hugill's version, which is the one pretty much sung here with an additional verses from Pint & Dale and some verses I'd had kept that I had written. Joanna Colcords book 'Roll & Go' has the version called "Slav Ho" which she in turn has from Captain Robinson's 'The Bellman' Saltpeter Shanty For the Spanish main we are bound away Chorus: Oh roll For the Spanish main we are bound away Chorus: Oh roll We are sailing away at the break of day Where the swift bonnitos and dolphin do play Grand Chorus: Oh roll, rock her bars Heave her high, oh, rock her, roll From Liverpool Bay we are sailing away (2x) We are sailing away from Liverpool Bay To the flash girls o' Chile who'll take all our pay A lashing of liquor the old man gives us (2x) If he keeps it up we'll bust a gut And drive this ship through hell if we must When the order comes round for to shorten more sail (2x) Well call for more ale in a full blown gale Or up aloft you'll not see our tails For two weary weeks we beat round the horn (2x) To push us on till the break of dawn Salt spray we drank from night until morn Old Pedro the Crimp, boys, we know him of old (2x) He's primin' his vino, he's dopin' his beer To the Chinchas he'll ship us if we don't steer clear Them flash gals o-Chile they're so hard to beat (2x) They'll greet us an love & treat us to wine But the bastards are robbin' us most of the time When the order comes round for to sail away home (2x) From some old seaport on the west coast of hell We'll sing adios and say fare thee well 22. St. Peter Down at Courland Bay Saint Peter's Day is June 29, during the Fishermen's Fete. Neil, again lifted this & adapted it from Roger D Abrahams's collection "Deep the Water Shallow the Shore" - "the beach singers feels that he must make up a song for the visiting fishermen who come from all over the island. They commonly sing of the beauties of the fete, using a traditional tune but introducing topical subjects and an appropriate chorus line. Here is a pattern, for instance, which was improvised upon by one of the singers". St. Peter Down at Courland Bay St Peter, St Peter down at Courland Bay Ch: St Peter, St Peter down at Courland Bay An the water very fresh & fell fresh & gay I'm going to take you to St Peter's on that day I'm going to buy you silks & laces on that day St Peter, St Peter down at Courland Bay I'm going to drink rum & be dancing on that day St Peter, St Peter down at Courland Bay An the water very fresh & fell fresh & gay |
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03 Aug 07 - 12:00 AM (#2117965) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: katlaughing Outstanding!! Thanks for the lyrics and story behind each song. I love Mudcat! Have a check ready to send in the morning. Thanks for the addy info, etc. |
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03 Aug 07 - 06:22 PM (#2118630) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: GUEST,Dani I cannot WAIT! Email's on the way. Barry's one of the first Mudcatters I ever met, at the first Getaway we were invited to. I remember like it was yesterday, looking across the room, mesmerized by that voice. No matter what you sing, Barry, it's powerful: but these are some of my favorites! My girls are gonna hate living with ME for a while! Not to mention my poor co-workers. Now if you could bring that house concert down to NC........ Dani |
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04 Aug 07 - 09:38 AM (#2118968) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: EBarnacle Ok, long foretold, long lasting. Way to go! Eric |
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04 Aug 07 - 10:35 AM (#2118989) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble Barry- You might consider bringing a CD or two for your hungry fans if you're planning to attend the next shanty/forebitter sing at the Press Room. August 18. Or I could just let folks bid up the extra ones that you kindly sent to Judy and me. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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04 Aug 07 - 05:21 PM (#2119209) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: SussexCarole Hi Barry! Can't wait to hear your CD. When I see the track list I can already hear your voice singing some of my favourite songs. |
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05 Aug 07 - 11:58 AM (#2119703) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble Carole- It's a nice done CD. I'm sure that Baggywrinkle will find it of interest in trawling for fresh songs. Cheerily, Charley Noble, wandering the streets of Boston |
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06 Aug 07 - 03:38 PM (#2120356) Subject: Review: Barry Finn & Neil Downey's CD From: GUEST,Chanteyranger At the poster's request, this review is being transferred here from another thread. Mudelf
Barry Finn and his longtime singing partner Neil Downey have just released their CD, "Fathom This" with backing vocals on several tracks by Barry's wife Justine Donovan, and Charlie Ipcar. It's not every CD that one could say has been met with anticipation, but there has been much anticipation in the sea music community for this CD, ever since Barry posted to Mudcat that he was going to finally record some of his vast and rare repertoire. This is his first CD.There has been good reason for this sense of anticipation. Through his singing at sessions and occasional performances, Barry has brought a rare repertoire to the attention of many singers, with several of those songs becoming in recent years, standards of the sea music repertoire. "London Julie,' and "Hard Times In Old Virginia" were taught to many of us by Barry, and spread to singing sessions on both coasts of the U.S. The Johnson Girls (London Julie) and Richard Adrianowicz and I (Hard Times In Old Virginia) have recorded these songs, and have Barry to thank for introducing them, for just two examples of his influence. |
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06 Aug 07 - 04:31 PM (#2120403) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble refresh |
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07 Aug 07 - 11:12 AM (#2120838) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: radriano Finally got a copy of this long awaited recording. This is the first time I've heard the duet. Barry Finn has long been on my list as an icon among shanty singers and a darned nice guy to boot. What strikes me about Barry's singing, aside from the volume, is his phrasing. But Neil's voice is great too - his composed song "Heavy Cruiser" is a gem. There are numerous tracks on this album that I've slated for immediate learning. Congratulations on a great album, guys! |
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07 Aug 07 - 12:06 PM (#2120858) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: radriano Barry, The version of One More Day that Suzanne sang is one that I found in an issue, I think, of an old English magazine that I can't remember the name of. I was living at Faith Petric's house at the time and had access to her vast store of periodicals submitted to the San Francisco Folk Club. The article specifically referred to the song as being a river shanty, sung slowly as opposed to the deep-sea version. That being said I think you are correct that it fits capstan work and might very well have been adapted as a deep-sea shanty as well. |
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07 Aug 07 - 12:56 PM (#2120893) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Barry Finn Thanks for that Richard, I've always kept it the way I 1st heard Suzanne (boy, did I love that voice) & the rest of you guys singing it "row me 'cross the river". Hugill concurs with the posibility of it's river origns stating that the 'rock 'an row me over' is probably the older refrain. Anyway it's a version that I always prefered rather than a halyard version, very soulful, Colcord & Hugill believe it's of "Negro" in origin. I'll tell Neil you're opinion of Heavy Cruiser, we always have a good time with that song. Carole, Dani, Dave, Art, Ron, your CD's are all on the way. Barry |
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07 Aug 07 - 01:52 PM (#2120941) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: GUEST,Big Mick in the Badlands I will be back in a civilized surroundings soon and able to order via Paypal. Is that link working yet? Barry, I can't wait to review this one. Congratulations, and it's about about time you got off that layabout arse and did some decent work........HAH!!!! All the best, Mick |
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07 Aug 07 - 01:58 PM (#2120946) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: MMario yup - the link is working. CD ordered. |
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08 Aug 07 - 09:30 AM (#2121636) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble Barry and Neil- The folks at Passims are anxious to get a copy of your CD to listen to. I mentioned it to John who was manning the gate for last evening's open mic but I've forgotten the name of the person who actually does the booking. You can probably find the name on Passim's website. Cheerily, Charley Noble, adrift in Boston |
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08 Aug 07 - 10:40 AM (#2121670) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Peter Kasin Thank you, MudElf! Chanteyranger You are welcome. Mudelf |
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08 Aug 07 - 09:28 PM (#2122164) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: GUEST,Dani What FUN! Belted out 'Roller Bowler' (or is that 'Rolla Bolla'?!) sailing down the interstate at 5:30 this morning, and 8 tonight found Janie and I in a parking lot downtown singing along with 'Good Ol Brig'. It's SO good to hear your voice, along with the rest of the crew. Thanks for the midwifery, Charlie, and thanks Barry, for sticking around long enough to record some of the music we so enjoy hearing you sing. It's great stuff! Dani |
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09 Aug 07 - 12:32 AM (#2122235) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Barry Finn Thanks Charlie I saw John after dinner & will send him a copy but Passim's is more of a singer/songwritter club now, they're a bit weak with traditional stuff. Not like 25 ys ago You're welcome Dani, glad you're getting a kick out of it, I knew there was a good reason for sticking around. "Rolla Bolla" ya making fun of my Boston accent? It ok, even my kids tease me & ask ware wus I brought/drug up. Barry |
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09 Aug 07 - 06:48 AM (#2122358) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: GUEST,Dani Barry, I think it's great that anyone HAS an accent anymore; yours suits the music just fine. Hey, we have a great public radio folk show nearby with a big following that you might consider sending a copy to: http://wunc.org/backporchmusic Keith Weston at WUNC Back Porch Music 120 Friday Center Dr Chapel Hill, NC 27517 Let us know if you do; me and Janie will call and write to tell him it's coming and he should play lots of it often. Dani |
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09 Aug 07 - 11:02 AM (#2122484) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: radriano refresh, please! |
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09 Aug 07 - 12:17 PM (#2122538) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Big Mick Just ordered mine using the Paypal link. Worked fine, and I can't wait to hear my buddy and his music. Mick |
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09 Aug 07 - 10:43 PM (#2122896) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: TRUBRIT I think it is great. Several of the songs I have never heard before -- some of them old friends but just a fine piece of work. Well done, Mr. Finn. |
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10 Aug 07 - 10:00 AM (#2123039) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: ranger1 Woohoo! Finally! I can't wait to get one! I'm going to drive the rest of the park crew crazy (heh heh). |
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10 Aug 07 - 10:18 AM (#2123053) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: GUEST,SussexCarole Suspect brown package from USA arrived this morning as I was leaving for work! Can't wait to get home and open it...... |
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10 Aug 07 - 02:25 PM (#2123209) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: GUEST,Art Thieme Barry, It's a wonderful CD!!!!!!!!! More than that, it's quite an important one to boot! So many sea-going work songs that I'd never heard before---and from so many unique sources. I've only listened once, but am truly looking forward to sitting still and seriously listening to the words and hearing the tales within the songs. Is it bad of me to note that it sometimes brought back memories of Jonathan Eberhart and the boys' recorded output on Folk Legacy?? Those BOARDING PARTY albums were good too--and eclectic as all hell. After all the years, this is a fine CD. Congratulations to you and Neil! Art Thieme |
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10 Aug 07 - 04:33 PM (#2123264) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble Here's a mini review of one of my favorite songs from this CD (full lyrics above): Barry's Notes- Neil got this double pull halyard shanty from Tommy O'Sullivan while recording at sea on the Unicorn back in the early 80's. It was collected by both Bullen & Hugill, who says it's a pure "Negro ditty". Coal Black Rose Oh, me Rosie, coal black rose, Don't ye hear the banjo Ping-a-pong-a-pong? Ch: On, me Rosie, Coal Black Rose! I'd run across a version of this song in SHANTIES OF THE SEVEN SEA by Stan Hugill but it didn't come to life until Neil led it at the recording session (I was doing a very fresh harmony). It's full of dynamic energy and yet it's a work song for rapidly hauling up a jib or other light sail. Neil's timing and accent is perfect and when we were doing the song one lost all sense of time, and place! How Neil avoided getting tangled up in his rapid-paced delivery of tongue-twisting words is another miracle. The song probably can be tracked back to the minstral hall but the West Indies shanty singers certainly put it to work. I believe there is an old thread about this song. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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10 Aug 07 - 04:56 PM (#2123279) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: katlaughing Barry, hope you've received my check by now, unless they've reinstated the Pony Express, though I've not heard of such!**bg** I cannot wait to hear this cd! |
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10 Aug 07 - 06:54 PM (#2123336) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Crane Driver Yes, it's here. Looks very impressive. We're off work next week, so we can take the time to REALLY listen to it. Looking forward to it. Andrew & Carole |
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11 Aug 07 - 10:39 AM (#2123670) Subject: Lyr Add: COAL BLACK ROSE From: Charley Noble Hah! I did some additional on-line research on "Coal Black Rose" and the sea shanty appears to have been derived from an 1820's early minstrel song. Here's what I found: Notes on Minstrel Song Origins of Coal Black Rose These notes are taken from a preview of a book partially available on-line; there is a reference to sheet music but the reference is not in the preview. From America's Musical Life: A History, by Richard Crawford, published by W. W. Norton & Co., © 2001, pp. 201-202 "Coal Black Rose" a song from the 1820's, depicts a black romance that disintegrates into deceit and violence. The song is sung by Sambo who is wooing the heroine: Lubly Rosa, Samo cum, Don't you hear de Banjo – tum, tum, tum; Lubly Rosa, Sambo cum, Don't you hear de Banjo – tum, tum, tum; Oh Rose, de coal black Rose, I wish I may be cortch'd if I don't lub Rose, Oh Rose, de coal black Rose! When Sambo shows up unexpectedly at Rose's cabin, she asks him to wait outside in the cold while she builds a fire. Then she lets him in. The two sit warming themselves until Sambo spots Cuffee, a rival suitor, trying to hide in the dark room's corner. And during the fight that follows, he changes his song's refrain: Oh Rose, take care Rose! I wish I may be burnt if I don't hate Rose, Oh Rose, you blacka snake Rose! Further note: "cortch'd" may be dialect for "scorched" given the above reference to "burnt." Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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12 Aug 07 - 01:15 AM (#2124079) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: katlaughing Got mine! Thanks, Barry. My fav., so far, is Yangste River Shanty, BUT I haven't listened to all of it, yet. I will be listening several times tomorrow as we will be home....cleaning....arrghhh. Maybe the rhythm of the songs will help us whistle while we work! Love that accent, Barry.*bg* Sounds wonderful, so far! |
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13 Aug 07 - 04:25 AM (#2124591) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Peter Kasin Refresh |
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13 Aug 07 - 08:50 AM (#2124683) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: MMario got mine! having problems getting it OPEN! (Well packed and sealed!) But hope to listen to it today. |
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13 Aug 07 - 09:05 AM (#2124692) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble MMario- The instructions for opening are embedded in the title: "FATHOM THIS!" You simply soak the CD in a bucket of salt water for a week or so. Alternatively, there is the oxyacetylene torch method, followed up with the "jaws of life." Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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14 Aug 07 - 12:51 AM (#2124997) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: RiGGy Hey Barry GOOD job !! I like it a LOT. Is that a digital rendering of the EastCoast on the cover behind you ? Thanks for being SO Barry alla time. Riggy |
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14 Aug 07 - 09:21 AM (#2125163) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: MMario Finally managed to get the bloody CD open - and played it; and played it; and played it. hmmmmm; Barry sounds a little more "subdued" then I am used to - but other than that; FANTASMAGORICAL!!!! which is what I expected. |
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14 Aug 07 - 05:19 PM (#2125503) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble MMario- We had to set the mics ten feet from Barry or he would have crashed the system! Glad to hear you enjoyed what you could hear. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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14 Aug 07 - 06:00 PM (#2125529) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: radriano MMario, Play the cd louder and it sounds just like Barry! |
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14 Aug 07 - 08:12 PM (#2125613) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Barry Finn Funny Richard, I was gonna suggest buying 2 & playing them at the same time. Hope you're having fun with it Leo, they are hard to open aren't they. The easy way is to slice down the from top hinge to bottom hinge with a thumb nail, release the bottom hinge & flip the CD face cover up, presto, unwrapped Don't listen to Charlie, the CD self destructs his way. Hi Riggy, glad you're enjoy it. The backround is the superstructure of the the Navy's heavy cruiser the USS Salem. We were hired to be roving performers, singing on deck to a reunion crew during the July 4th Tall Ships parade in Boston Harbor. The Captain lost his command as a result & we got invited to sing aboard the USS Constitution, highly irregular. Hope everybody else who's got one is enjoying, you can also post your thoughts here too. Barry |
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14 Aug 07 - 08:57 PM (#2125650) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: curmudgeon You can also come to The Portsmouth Maritime Folk Festival , hear Barry and Neil live, AND buy several CDs as gifts - Tom |
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15 Aug 07 - 08:29 AM (#2125928) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble Barry- "The Captain lost his command as a result & we got invited to sing aboard the USS Constitution, highly irregular." It sounds as if there might be more to this story, and a song as well. Was there a court martial, with the ritual breaking of his sword? Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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16 Aug 07 - 11:56 PM (#2127615) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Bert Just a little yarn as an excuse to refresh this thread. Re: You cannot tie a bowline Of course every school kids can tie a bowline, so what does this mean? Well a sailor ties a bowline quite differently to a landlubber. A landlubber will twist a loop into the rope, poke the end through, wrap it 'round the back and poke it back through the loop. Whereas a sailor will hold the bight in his left hand, lay the (bitter) end across it and twist the loop around the rope in one movement. Then all he has to do is wrap the end 'round and back through the loop. |
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17 Aug 07 - 02:03 PM (#2128054) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: GUEST,Mike O'Leary-Johns Barry ; received the CD just before I headed for saltburn Festival. Played it as soon as I got back. ABSO-BLOODY-LUTELY WONDERFULL! Great singing[from you both]; and as others have commented.............many of the songs are New To me. Definately NOT : just another batch of Seafaring Songs and Shanties. But an important contribution to the genre. WELL DONE. On a more personal note ... Brings back many happy memories of meeting and sharing some songs at the YTB and at Portsmouth Festival. LONG MAY YOU SHAKE THE PLASTER FROM THE WALLS. But people should also have a chance of hearing you sing like you did on the Whaler in Mystic.The song you wrote yourself.That WAS magic. All the best Barry , I will Email you shortly ; Mike. |
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18 Aug 07 - 01:51 AM (#2128390) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Barry Finn Hi Mike & thanks for your kind words, hope your sail was tall & exciting, will want to hear about it. Hopefully we can get together again some time. Thanks Barry |
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20 Aug 07 - 06:58 PM (#2129981) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: GUEST,Janie Just walked in the door from work to find my copy in the mailbox. Listening as I type. Barry & Neil, what a treasure this CD is. I'll be listening to this one often and for a long time. Janie |
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20 Aug 07 - 08:03 PM (#2130024) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: GUEST,Rumncoke A sailor will hold the bight in his left hand......? Unless she'd left handed, of course. |
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22 Aug 07 - 02:18 PM (#2131304) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: radriano refresh please! |
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24 Aug 07 - 11:16 AM (#2132720) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble If there are any orders for this CD from Australia, I'm prepared to do door-to-door delivery to Sydney, Melbourne, and Port Douglas this October-November. I'll already be bringing CD's for JennyO, Sandra, Margaret Walters and Danny Spooner. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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24 Aug 07 - 12:02 PM (#2132754) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Big Mick A really good deckhand can tie a bowline one handed. I knew that my buddy would have a good CD. As I don't do much in the way of shanties, and work songs of this type, I expected to get a damn good reference piece so that I could add a few to my repertoire. What arrogance on my part!! What I received was an incredibly enjoyable CD, and the production values were out of this world. I have had the pleasure of hearing Barry sing any number of times. This CD captures his phenomenal voicings and stylings to a tee. Whoever did the recording/mastering really knew their business when it comes to vocal music. Oft times folks that record everything from rock bands to choral groups just don't get it right when it comes to acoustic music or this type of vocal music. That is not the case here. This CD has a punch...... a force to it, that is hard to describe. When that is coupled up with the obvious talent and knowledge of the music, as well as the love of it ..... all I can say is that this is an important CD to own. And you will absolutely enjoy it. I have it in my CD player and just play it over and over. Great job, wee fella. And the best to Mr. Haddie, as well. You should be proud. Mick |
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31 Aug 07 - 03:13 PM (#2137858) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: GUEST,ChanteyKid Any more on this CD, I'm thinking of ordering it? |
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31 Aug 07 - 03:39 PM (#2137872) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble Mick has said it all! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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01 Sep 07 - 08:04 PM (#2138628) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: TRUBRIT Sorry to be repetetivw bur I rhink is a wonderful piece of work.......I can listen, and listen, and listen again ..........great job Barry and Neil |
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01 Sep 07 - 11:36 PM (#2138699) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Big Mick If you are a Chantey kid, then you need to own it. It is a wonderful collection, and you will learn much from it. I expect to be doing so for quite a while. Mick |
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22 Oct 09 - 07:51 PM (#2750670) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble For those who haven't read this thread, and scanned the lyrics of the songs that Barry and Neil sing on this CD, here it is again. This is helps explain why we miss him. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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23 Oct 09 - 04:23 AM (#2750861) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Peter Kasin Thanks for refreshing this thread, Charley. This is a really fine CD, and it stresses the sadness, the huge hole that is left by Barry's death. There was a lot of music yet to be recorded by him, a lot of rare chanteys to bring to light, and he had just added Ken Schatz to become a trio. It is so sad, but let's be thankful that there is this wonderful CD as his legacy. Chanteyranger |
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23 Oct 09 - 04:57 AM (#2750875) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: skarpi well I did not know that he had this cd made . all the best Skarpi |
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23 Oct 09 - 05:58 AM (#2750898) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: My guru always said Thanks for refeshing this! I came back from our trip with 14 CD's but kept forgetting to ask Barry for this one which I regret, of course I thought we'd have plenty of time!! Any advice on how to get a copy? |
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23 Oct 09 - 09:03 AM (#2751003) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble Guru- I'm so pleased you asked! On the official Finn & Haddie website there is a very tiny link under the CD which says "Buy This!": Click here for website Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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23 Oct 09 - 10:53 AM (#2751064) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: Fortunato http://www.finnandhaddie.com Here is the link blue clicky |
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23 Oct 09 - 12:10 PM (#2751107) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: JudyB If one of the clones wander by - Would it make sense to delete the word "new" from the title so folks don't think this is a new announcement? And then delete this post? I wish we could have done another CD - was looking forward to singing along on "Trinidad Run" in the car - but I am glad we do have this one. Thanks, JudyB
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23 Oct 09 - 12:23 PM (#2751118) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (new Barry Finn CD) From: ClaireBear And I would love to be able to hear Barry singing "Bye Bye My Roseanna" -- without which life seems colorless -- again. That song is so definitively Barry that I can't believe it's not recorded somewhere. I keep expecting to find it on YouTube; I keep thinking if I enter just the right search terms there it'll be. Sigh. |
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23 Oct 09 - 03:29 PM (#2751257) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: My guru always said Claire, I'm sure Richard has Bye Bye my Roseanna on a video of Barry - if only we could get it onto the web *sigh* Maybe we should send a DVD of Barry to someone who knows how to put up a clip? I know Amos knows how.... |
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23 Oct 09 - 03:29 PM (#2751258) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: My guru always said Oh, and thanks for the link, Charlie & Chance! |
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23 Oct 09 - 10:05 PM (#2751466) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: Richard Atkins Claire Yes Bye bye my Rosianna was captured by me on video rest assured then. Barrys going has knocked me off the rocks but full video of his last performanances with Neil and Ken will follow later. Six months later via Barrys family at this sad time. Others advice please. |
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23 Oct 09 - 10:26 PM (#2751471) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: Janie It is hard to believe there is only this one CD. But I am betting that many people have videos or recordings of Barry singing, hopefully going back a long ways. While the quality of many of these may not be "the finest kind", as much of the music and singing of this wonderfully talented man ought to be documented and preserved as completely as possible. I wonder, for now, about a thread to which people post if they have indeed recorded Barry - in a living room, at the Getaway, a family picnic, a festival, etc. It could serve as a locator archive in the event Justine and family might decide, at some point, to authorize the replicating of these recordings all in one place. This might be a really dumb idea, but I thought I would toss it out there. It would basically be a collection of field recordings. We all know what a wonderful resource field recordings are. Janie |
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23 Oct 09 - 11:59 PM (#2751484) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: katlaughing THAT is a fantastic idea, Janie. I hope folks will do so. |
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24 Oct 09 - 12:53 PM (#2751735) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: Peter Kasin Great idea, Janie! I have a tape somewhere oif Barry singing at a workshop at the Moby Dick 150th anniversary Festival at the park where I work, which waqs in 2001. Lani Herrmann recorded it. The sound quality is what one would expect from an audience tape recording, but, as you said, a collection oif field recordings would not be expcted to be a high fidelity project. Chanteyranger |
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25 Oct 09 - 10:08 PM (#2752731) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: Richard Atkins Good idea Janie. My video of our time with Barry and Justine is on hold at this sad time as i said before , for six months at least. However i did promice a copy of of my videos of Portsmouth Maritime to Tom which is in process. So many Pictures and videos for him to sort and i add more them! |
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25 Oct 09 - 11:19 PM (#2752741) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: RockClimber Hello regular Mudcat people. I've just wandered into this website while hunting for Gaelic music, and I'm moved to sorrow by the loss of your friend Barry Finn although I never heard him sing or read his posts before today. I'm glad to know that he has made a CD and so many assorted field recordings. Just wanted to extend my condolences to all of you and to his family. Thank you all for keeping this wonderful community going. Eman Ramos |
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26 Oct 09 - 05:16 AM (#2752801) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: stallion I have a copy, what I don't have is any video clips, it might be an idea to put out a DVD of the clips, it would be good for someone to collate the contributions and edit them, and, as already been said in this thread, it would be a great learning tool for wannabe singers as well as a song bank. Pete |
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26 Oct 09 - 10:52 PM (#2753383) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: DFP stallion, here, at least, is a list of Barry videos on YouTube; semi-collated though not edited per se: Barry Finn - Old Dollar Mamie (Prison song) FSGW Getaway 2009 Barry Finn sings "The Banks of the Callow" another link to the same recording: The Shores of the Callows "Salonika" - Barry Finn at FSGW Getaway 2008 another link to the same recording: Salonika Barry Finn - Guantanamo Bay - FSGW Getaway 2008 another link to the same recording: Guantanamo Bay Woolloomooloo Lair - Barry Finn FSGW Getaway 2008 another link to the same recording: Woolloomooloo Lair Finn & Haddie sing South Coast of Texas Rowing Shanties 1 (Finn & Haddie) (a medley of British West Indian rowing shanties; includes "Pull Away Me Boys," "Fine Time of Day," and "Hell of a Wedding") another link to the same recording: BWI Rowing Shanties Roller Bowler (Finn & Haddie) another link to the same recording: Roller Bowler Yangtze River (Finn & Haddie) another link to the same recording: Yangtze River Shanty Yangtzte River II (Finn & Haddie) |
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06 Feb 10 - 11:24 PM (#2831988) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: katlaughing Just got my copy of this CD with a nice note from Natalie. It is everything you all said and more...also poignant knowing, while we listen, he isn't here anymore. My grandson loves it and started singing along on the chorus of Roller Bowler and Yangtse River Shanty. He had to go home, but I am sure he learn the others, too, at least the chorus of each. kat |
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07 Feb 10 - 10:24 AM (#2832071) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: Charley Noble Nice to know these CDs are still available. Charley Noble |
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07 Feb 10 - 10:42 AM (#2832087) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: Janie Thanks for refreshing this thread, kat. Gave me an opportunity to go back and watch some of the videos. Won't we be missing him for a long, long time! |
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07 Feb 10 - 10:54 AM (#2832098) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: Bill D won't we though? I still 'run' old non-recorded memories in my head of him from the Getaway...like the infamous "bench moving chanty". |
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07 Feb 10 - 11:19 AM (#2832117) Subject: RE: FATHOM THIS (the fine Barry Finn CD) From: Fortunato Thanks for the reminder, I've just ordered mine. I guess I'm ready to listen now. cheers chance |