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10 Aug 07 - 08:24 PM (#2123375) Subject: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Little Hawk He has refined laziness into an artform. His little leggies are just long enough to reach the ground. Same goes for his ears. He resembles a fat sausage on four short pillars...so firm, so fully packed. He is bold, brave, and ready to defend the realm...as long as danger does not approach within less than 10 or 20 feet of him. He will bravely charge infants and dogs that weigh less than he does, as long as they don't charge back. He will eat almost anything, without hesitation. When he lifts his leg, you know that he is not going to miss the target. He would never plotz on the neighbour's lawn...it's too far away, and he can't be bothered expending that much energy. He is always willing to add a few additional remarks to the usual fifteen minutes of frenzied barking. He has completely mastered the sins of greed and gluttony. He rightfully sees himself as the epitome of creation, Nature's noblest Work. He is a Dachshund! |
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10 Aug 07 - 08:47 PM (#2123386) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Cluin Mine can lick his balls for hours. The novelty never wears off for him. |
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10 Aug 07 - 09:00 PM (#2123395) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: catspaw49 Lemmee ask ya' Cluin........If you could lick your balls would the novelty ever wear off for you? Spaw |
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10 Aug 07 - 09:05 PM (#2123397) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Little Hawk LOL! Oh, God.... |
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10 Aug 07 - 09:06 PM (#2123398) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Jeri Something would probably wear off! |
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10 Aug 07 - 09:07 PM (#2123400) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: catspaw49 Maybe Jeri.....but it'd take a good while and probably be worth it.................. Spaw |
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10 Aug 07 - 09:08 PM (#2123401) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: bobad Dog," by Lawrence Ferlinghetti The dog trots freely in the street and sees reality and the things he sees are bigger than himself and the things he sees are his reality Drunks in doorways Moons on trees The dog trots freely thru the street and the things he sees are smaller than himself Fish on newsprint Ants in holes Chickens in Chinatown windows their heads a block away The dog trots freely in the street and the things he smells smell something like himself The dog trots freely in the street past puddles and babies cats and cigars poolrooms and policemen He doesn't hate cops He merely has no use for them and he goes past them and past the dead cows hung up whole in front of the San Francisco Meat Market He would rather eat a tender cow than a tough policeman though either might do And he goes past the Romeo Ravioli Factory and past Coit's Tower and past Congressman Doyle of the Unamerican Committee He's afraid of Coit's Tower but he's not afraid of Congressman Doyle although what he hears is very discouraging very depressing very absurd to a sad young dog like himself to a serious dog like himself But he has his own free world to live in His own fleas to eat He will not be muzzled Congressman Doyle is just another fire hydrant to him The dog trots freely in the street and has his own dog's life to live and to think about and to reflect upon touching and tasting and testing everything investigating everything without benefit of perjury a real realist with a real tale to tell and a real tail to tell it with a real live barking democratic dog engaged in real free enterprise with something to say about ontology something to say about reality and how to see it and how to hear it with his head cocked sideways at streetcorners as if he is just about to have his picture taken for Victor Records listening for His Master's Voice and looking like a living questionmark into the great gramophone of puzzling existence with its wondrous hollow horn which always seems just about to spout forth some Victorious answer to everything |
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10 Aug 07 - 09:11 PM (#2123403) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: catspaw49 I'll bet the dog stops from trotting freely every now and then to lick his balls! Spaw |
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10 Aug 07 - 09:26 PM (#2123408) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Bill D I had a wonderful old dog....very obedient..I'd say, "Barfy....sit up, or won't you?" ...and by golly, he'd either sit up or he wouldn't! |
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10 Aug 07 - 09:26 PM (#2123409) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Cluin "If you could lick your balls would the novelty ever wear off for you?" Yep. Can't play solitaire forever. |
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10 Aug 07 - 09:30 PM (#2123411) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Little Hawk While life goes on around him everywhere.....he's playing.... |
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10 Aug 07 - 09:31 PM (#2123413) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Jeri One wonders how dachshunds get along in the world, when doggies sniff each other's butts in a doggy version of a handshake, and all the other doggies' butts are way up in the air. The whole scent world must be different down where the dachshunds smell. (Anybody for a parody of 'Down Where the Drunkards Roll'?) Little Hawk, I really enjoy it when you talk about your dog. I get the feeling dachshunds have a sense of humor. They'd sort of have to. |
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10 Aug 07 - 10:29 PM (#2123436) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Little Hawk Oh, they do, Jeri. ;-) They're delightful little monsters, ever scheming for new and imaginative ways of stealing food and finding vile, decaying stuff to roll in, then coming proudly home to say, "Don't I smell great now?" Then there's the shock and horror when you dunk them in the tub and apply soap!!!!!! |
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10 Aug 07 - 10:51 PM (#2123457) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Sorcha Oh dear me. Hawk, do you never stop? Dachsies are no better than Corgis or any other breed that trips your trigger. At least Corgis CAN climb stairs with an erection if they really need to. I'm going to bed now. Sorry, Hawk Man. I hope I'm better tomorrow. NOT in a very good mood. Esp to be 'here' |
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11 Aug 07 - 01:18 AM (#2123506) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Barry Finn When I was a teen two brothers who were friends had a Bull Mastave (sp?), you know the kind big head, big body, strong but big time lazy too. This dog fell asleep against the radiator, when the heat came on the dog wouldn't move. They had to bring the dog to the vet to be treated for burns. Now my dog isn't lazy but I wish it were. She isn't smart either & I wish it were too. Barry |
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11 Aug 07 - 01:54 AM (#2123511) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Stilly River Sage Bull Mastiff is what I think you're talking about. My two backyard girls have been a little noiser than usual lately, because of the wildlife in the creek behind my back fence. Everything moves around at night, so they have to announce all of those comings and goings. Good things my neighbors bedrooms are on the front of their houses and there is no one behind us. I think they did scare off a couple of pranksters earlier this week. Two neighbors, across from and beside me, found a sticky black paint of some sort on their garage doors one morning, but mine is guarded by two noisy dogs. I did go check the driveway from the doorway a couple of times that night, but didn't see anything. SRS |
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11 Aug 07 - 03:48 AM (#2123539) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: robomatic I've made a trailfriend of a dog for a brief period. Once some friends and I went on a hike to a couple of local peaks on the rim of Anchorage (Knoya and Tikishla) At the trail head a local dog befriended us and followed us. My friends were going to camp out the night, one of those brief Alaskan affairs. Since it was still light and quite pleasant, and I had the harbinger of an illness coming on, I decided to do the remainder of the hike and go home early in the morning. The little dog followed me, and it turned out that the final bit up Tikishla was steepish in pressed snow footprints, nothing super hard or technical, just needing one to pay attention. And somewhere along the way the dog abandoned me. I headed back to the trailhead and spent the next day not able to keep anything down so I pretty much forgot about the whole mountain deal. My friends didn't, they hiked up Tikishla and right at the peak they found the little dog, which apparently had followed up my step-like foot prints and hadn't found the way down! They escorted her off and once she was back on the lower trail she got herself back to her home, but my friends had a lot of fun with me, specially the cute one who for weeks would roll blue eyes at me and make little puppy noises. Robo, who likes doggies and kitties and birdies and truly felt somewhat bad about 'is thoughtlessness. |
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11 Aug 07 - 10:12 AM (#2123654) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: wysiwyg Brag? My dog is so smart that although he's never had fleas before in his life, he knew I'd do SOMETHING about them as soon as we returned from vacay, and he was a very good doggie as treatment began! I just wish he could have gone to the store in our absence and gotten started BEFORE we got home. We left him a car, and I don't care if he drives without a license! ~S~ |
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11 Aug 07 - 10:18 AM (#2123661) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Cluin You didn't give him your PIN for your ATM card, did you? You know the old joke about the dog with the 5 dollar bill, don't you? |
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11 Aug 07 - 10:38 AM (#2123669) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Little Hawk Barry!!! You really made me laugh! My God, that Bull Mastiff must've been the laziest dog that has ever lived. My dachshund's eyes are bugging out in shock and amazement that there was once a dog lazier than himself. If he had found himself faced with the "radiator problem"...here's what would have happened. 1. Dachshund sleeping peacefully against radiator. 2. Radiator beginning to get warm. Dachshund groans appreciatively, and shifts position to soak up more heat. 3. Radiator getting quite warm. Dachshund snoring gently. 4. Radiator getting hot! Dachshund shifts fitfully. His little coloured eye bumps begin to pop up and down, denoting rising anxiety. 5. Radiator getting damn hot! Dachshund's eyes pop open. He squirms around, trying to avoid the heat without actually going to the trouble to really get on his feet and move somewhere else. 6. Radiator getting f*cking hot! Dachshund lurches to his feet with an exasperated sound and scrambles clear of the radiator. He turns to look at it with a sad and accusing look which clearly says, "Why are you trying to make MY life miserable? What is your problem, you stupid piece of machinery?" 7. Dachshunds sighs wearily and trots into the kitchen for a relieving drink of water. click - click - click - click - click - click lap! lap! lap! slurp! Uuurrp!!! click - click - click - click - click - click 8. Dachshund returns to living room. Casts baleful look at radiator, as if to say, "I won't forget your thoughtlessness." 9. Dachshund flops down on carpet in cool spot, well clear of radiator, groans luxuriously, and prepares to catch up on that forty winks he is so badly in need of....(makes mental note not to trust radiator in future, as it has proven to be sadistic and malign in its intentions). |
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11 Aug 07 - 10:40 AM (#2123671) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Bill D Gee, too bad the store is so far....I had a cat who went to the store for what he wanted! Of course the store was only a block away. It's true...my ex-wife & I lived in Lawrence, Kans., and had an old Siamese tomcat who demanded his Purina dry cat chow ON TIME! Well, one day we got a phone call from a little neighborhood grocery. "Are you the folks who own a Siamese cat? He's down here at the store." (The local kids recognized him and someone knew our name.) So off we go...one block and around the corner. It seems we had run OUT of cat chow, and Mr. Magoo had somehow figgered out where the 'mother lode' was, had gone down, waited till the screen door was opened (very small store), gone down the aisle , found 4lb. bag on bottom shelf, drug it into the aisle, chewed off bottom corner...and was happily having lunch when we arrived, half embarassed, half proud, to pay for the bag and tote Himself and his booty home! This same cat later, back in Wichita, after we had moved from one house to another, did one of those famous tricks of disappearing, and turning up 2 days later at the old house...almost 5 miles away and crossing a number of major streets. I hate to imagine what Mr. Magoo would have done if he'd had access to the car keys! |
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11 Aug 07 - 10:44 AM (#2123673) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Cluin "Mr. Magoo is not to be trusted." ~ from the movie Thunderheart |
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11 Aug 07 - 10:51 AM (#2123678) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Little Hawk "Nor is the radiator!" - Finnegan |
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08 Aug 10 - 04:50 PM (#2960749) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Little Hawk Someone might enjoy reading through this one again. I know I did. |
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08 Aug 10 - 05:13 PM (#2960756) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Bobert Later, I'm just takin' a few minutes off as the "grill man"... Yeah, as in cookin' and no I ain't wearing an apron or skirt so ya'll don't go there... This is about LH's dawg anyway... I'll be back later... Time to flip somethin'... B~ |
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08 Aug 10 - 06:27 PM (#2960786) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Ebbie I've been less impressed with dogs' smelling prowess since it occurred to me that if we human beings were that close to the ground we too would be able to access scents and other interesting identifiers about our world. |
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08 Aug 10 - 06:34 PM (#2960788) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Little Hawk Okay, how about their hearing prowess then? I think it's amazing. |
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09 Aug 10 - 06:46 AM (#2961007) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: kendall Our Seamus is so smart he could land the space shuttle...if he had thumbs. This is my third yellow Lab and for me there is no other dog. My Daughter has two of those tiny yapping snapping shivering abominations from Mexico whose name I can never spell. Why would anyone want such a useless creature? |
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09 Aug 10 - 09:56 AM (#2961089) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Richard Bridge My Benjamin can do the Times crossword in his head. Without my buying the paper. I know it only takes minutes because he then demands his breakfast. |
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09 Aug 10 - 10:52 AM (#2961137) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Little Hawk kendall - Chihuahua Why? Well, because they are tiny, helpless, vulnerable, "cute", and utterly dependent. Some people want a dog like that. It satisfies their emotional needs in a way that works for them. The Aztecs bred them for food! |
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09 Aug 10 - 11:30 AM (#2961156) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: gnu Take a lot of them to make a stew. |
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09 Aug 10 - 12:18 PM (#2961186) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: VirginiaTam "takes a lot of them to make a stew." That's because the vegetable peeler has not been designed that they can manage with those tiny paws. And the onions make them cry so they have to work in shifts. |
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09 Aug 10 - 12:42 PM (#2961200) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Ed T Everything Reminds Me Of My Dog Jane Siberry everything reminds me of my dog the guy in the store reminds me of my dog telephones remind me of my dog...yoohoo taxicabs remind me too if you remind me of my dog we'll probably git along little doggie git along git along little doggie git a... smiling at strangers reminds me of my dog (better let them know you're friendly) the way people dress reminds me too pissing on their favourite tree sad things remind me of my dog cockroaches and other insects remind me too, don't eat them the blank expression of the little boy with thick glasses who picks himself up from the sidewalk and stands there blinking in the sun ho oh! if you remind me of my dog we'll probably git along little doggie git along git along little doggie git a... like the man on the subway sitting across from me and every time I looked at him he smiled and by the time I got to the end of the subway line I 'd given him at least ...oh...25 cookies guys in bars remind me of my dog the way it takes you so long to choose the perfect table if you remind me of my dog we'll probably git along little doggie git along git along little doggie git a... me and my ferocious dog we're walking down the street and everyone we meet says "ach yer a goot doogie !... "ach yer a goot doogie!..." "ach yer a goot doogie!..." except when we go for a walk to get the Sunday paper I stand there and read the headlines he reads the wind sometimes he hits a funny smell and laughs I hate it when he does that- I feel so dumb what? what? I say everything reminds me of my dog beautiful things sunsets remind me of my dog Gina go to your window Einstein reminds me of me dog I want to pat his fluffy head this whole world reminds me of my dog my dog reminds me of this whole world do I remind you of a dog? (thump thump) I do? (faster thump thump) skyscrapers remind me of my dog sitting in the tall grass waiting for a rabbit guys in red cameros too it's getting to be a habit artists remind me of my dog staking out their originality on the nearest tree old folks remind me of my dog my dog reminds old people of their dogs (Barfy, Ruffo, Beanhead) Gina says I remind her of the dog the that way I just did that golfers teeing off remind me of my dog the way he sits by me and shifts on his front paws what is it you want? look at it... do you want to go for a walk? do you want a cookie? do you want me to dial the number for you? ....Little Hawk reminds me of his dog..... |
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09 Aug 10 - 04:00 PM (#2961378) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Little Hawk Most of the people here do not remind me of my dog. ;-) |
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09 Aug 10 - 04:24 PM (#2961392) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Ebbie I'm on the market for a small dog, preferably un-adoptable. It has to be small enough that I can carry it if needs be, and un-adoptable because my notion has been to give each dog a happy ending, one by one. Last night I dreamt that I was given an Irish Wolfhound . He lay down on my recliner and couldn't get his hindquarters onto it; his hind legs were still on the floor. Well, humph. |
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09 Aug 10 - 04:30 PM (#2961397) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: gnu I always said, if I won the lottery, I'd get Irish Wolfhounds and breed them. Magnificent dogs. |
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09 Aug 10 - 04:36 PM (#2961407) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Little Hawk "un-adoptable"? Meaning what? |
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09 Aug 10 - 04:38 PM (#2961408) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: gnu Re: Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Cluin - PM Date: 10 Aug 07 - 08:47 PM Mine can lick his balls for hours. The novelty never wears off for him. I don't think anyone asked yet, so... how do you know this? |
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09 Aug 10 - 04:45 PM (#2961414) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Little Hawk Yeah, eh? Imagine someone who spends hours watching his dog lick its balls! Disgusting. You'd have to be some sort of pervert to do that. |
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09 Aug 10 - 04:54 PM (#2961423) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Ebbie Un-adoptable by normal standards, Little Hawk. Whether by age, health condition, personality or circumstance. I've taken a number of them over the years and have had a wonderful life with them. It is not altruism. |
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09 Aug 10 - 05:22 PM (#2961447) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: gnu I recall one day in 1981... I was walking Bear across a bridge in Marysville, NB, CAN. I was near the end of the bridge and I spotted a lad walking his Irish Wolfhound along a street that led to the end of the bridge. Bear was about 6 months old... a shepherd and NF mix. I knew he would go nuts when we got to the end of the bridge and he would see the hound. And I was ready. He froze, began barking furiously, steadied... then made a charge. As he was at least 75 pounds, I had steadied also and when he got to the end of the leash, I held fast and it snapped. He ran about ten more feet and began backpeddling and slid to a full stop. He looked back at me with an incredulous look of, "You aren't gonna stop me!!!???" He turned tail, ran behind me, ran between my legs, stopped with his head barely beyond my crotch and began to bark visciously at the hound. The hound was rather aloof and nonchalant. The owner was laughing. I cuffed Bear, grabbed him by the leash and drug him home against his will... yeah, right. He was quite a dog. But, the day he went after the bus was his last. I felt sorry for the bus driver. |
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09 Aug 10 - 05:38 PM (#2961462) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Ed T "Imagine someone who spends hours watching his dog lick its balls! Disgusting. You'd have to be some sort of pervert to do that" Don't knock it, until you have tried it....you may be surprised how comforting it may be? |
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09 Aug 10 - 06:02 PM (#2961489) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Little Hawk The voice of experience, eh? ;-) Okay, I'll keep that in mind. Our present dog, sadly, has no balls to lick, and he's too fat and old and stiff to get around to that part anymore anyway. He goes mad when he gets an itch there! |
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09 Aug 10 - 06:08 PM (#2961498) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Rapparee Good Lord, man! Are you keeping a mad dog in your house? |
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09 Aug 10 - 06:09 PM (#2961500) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Ed T I just re-routed an Asian friend from this thread. He cannot speak English well, and mistook the title as "Basting my dog", which initially perked his interest...since he is always looking for a new approach to that topic. |
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09 Aug 10 - 06:39 PM (#2961512) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: frogprince Sat around a big campfire with at least a couple of dozen other campers. Guy sits there messing with his dog, dog slurping all over his face. Guy leaves for a few minutes, entrusting the dog to someone else. Dog spends the entire interval licking 'em. Owner returns, dog slurps him all over the face again. Circle of campers all sitting there not saying anything, shaking with laughter. |
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09 Aug 10 - 07:37 PM (#2961547) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Tangledwood "I'm on the market for a small dog, preferably un-adoptable." Ebbie, most small dogs have always struck me as silly and yappy but I have a friend with a little Papillon which is so much fun. She's a trained medical alert dog, smart, and fully of character. Be prepared for plenty of play time. If she is typical of the breed I'd say that they're well worth looking for. |
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09 Aug 10 - 07:40 PM (#2961548) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: gnu A relative of mine retorted objectionably with sommat about a dog's saliva would help heal a wound and the dog's mouth was more sanitary than a human's and some other bullshit when I was taken aback by him allowing the dog to lick his wee child's face. Now, the dog lickede it's arsehole and paws walks around outside. If the kid was licking the lawn dirt... ??? BTW... the same dog used to drag it's arse on the carpet. When I suggested the dog might have worms, I was assailed with, "My dog does not have worms!!!" That dog is dead. That kid has severe eye problems. He's 17 years old now, so I guess it wasn't worms from the dog... ??? |
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09 Aug 10 - 08:22 PM (#2961573) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Ebbie I'm trying to be patient and wait for a dog to show up, TWood. My problem is that I miss my last one so much and need a dog to cuddle. I am re-registered at the Humane Society for one but very few dogs come through there. And being this is Alaska, most of them that do come in are large. Lots of cats thre. But I want to get a dog before I add a cat to the household. I lost my 17-year-old cat last March. I do know where that dream came from; the other day I met a 6-month old Irish Wolfhound and his owner on the sidewalk and stopped to make their acquaintance. I swear his tail was as slim as a pencil and a yard long. :) |
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09 Aug 10 - 09:55 PM (#2961609) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Little Hawk Well, it sounds like a good way to find a loving companion, Ebbie. Their love is unconditional. |
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09 Aug 10 - 10:54 PM (#2961668) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Ebbie Yes. |
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10 Aug 10 - 07:36 PM (#2962470) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: kendall Were there ever wolves in Ireland? |
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10 Aug 10 - 07:38 PM (#2962473) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: gnu Kendall... yes, but the Irish are fond of their sheep and children. |
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11 Aug 10 - 07:07 AM (#2962722) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: GUEST,kendall So were the Wolves. Wolves but no snakes.... |
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12 Aug 10 - 03:30 AM (#2963424) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Richard Bridge Yes, kendall, but allegedly the wolves ate them. |
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12 Aug 10 - 01:05 PM (#2963701) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: frogprince I haven't really been situated so that it made sense to keep a dog, for the dog's sake, since back when, growing up on the farm. The dog I grew up with, probably a german shepherd mix, about a year younger than me, was a born livestock dog. Tell him to bring the cows in from pasture, and it was done. He was a "freebie", like most of the dogs we ever had. We eventually actually paid money for a pup sold as an English shepherd, a guaranteed stock dog. By the time we found out he would never pay any particular attention to cattle, he was a member of the family, with us for life. Never have been able to match him to any pictures of "English shepherd" or "English sheep dog"; a mid-size dog, with heavy straight mid-length coat, black with white nose, throat, and boots. |
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12 Aug 10 - 01:09 PM (#2963702) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Q (Frank Staplin) My wife is getting back her little companion today, a miniature fox terrier. He developed eye luxation and consequent glaucoma. One eye removed by the small animal opthalomological surgeon and replaced with prothesis, and laser surgery on the other. We hope that the latter treatment will keep the eye working for a while. |
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12 Aug 10 - 01:43 PM (#2963733) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: gnu Q... "glaucoma" You would share your pot with him? |
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12 Aug 10 - 02:17 PM (#2963760) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Richard Bridge Miniature anythings are usually medically less sound. I am not aware of any breed properly called the "English Shepherd". The ubiquitous working sheepdog in the UK is the Border Collie (only recently recognised as a breed for show purposes). The Rough Collie (think "Lassie") and Smooth Collie (the subject of some argument over whether it is merely a coat variation or the last surviving remnants of an older working breed, the English Cur) are not really fit to work in the "One Man and His Dog" style. Generations of breeding for those narrow heads has resulted in dogs nearly as stupid as Otterhounds. The Bearded Collie I think used to be a truly working breed, but I have never known of any with the instinct. The Old English Sheepdog (Dulux Dog) is not a sheep-herding breed. It is a guarding breed that could be left in with the flock and a wolf with poor eyesight and no sense of smell could mistake it for a sheep and come to an untimely end. Do not think of them as fluffy and lovable - some are but many are not. |
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12 Aug 10 - 02:38 PM (#2963772) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Ebbie I have wondered about the 'English Shepherd'. When I was young, we had one but I've never seen one so named in any book. The bitch we had was, as FP described: ;mostly black, heavy but not piled coat, white points but not a border collie (wrong head for that breed) medium size - maybe 45 pounds. According to Google, the English Shepherd * is* a breed. Here are some pictures: English Shepherd Bitch and Pups |
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12 Aug 10 - 02:45 PM (#2963778) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Ebbie That didn't take. I'll try again: Nope. That didn't work either. The image may be protected. Google 'English Shepherd +canine' and the picture I tried to link to is of a bitch with three or four pups. |
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12 Aug 10 - 02:48 PM (#2963780) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Richard Bridge Not recognised in England by the Kennel Club. |
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12 Aug 10 - 02:49 PM (#2963781) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Ebbie It says it's a US breed. :) |
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12 Aug 10 - 03:43 PM (#2963816) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Richard Bridge Funny, why call it an "English Shepherd" then? |
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12 Aug 10 - 03:57 PM (#2963826) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: frogprince Darned if I know why they called 'em English, but the google pictures look right for our pooch "Boots". I also have an old bicycle that was universally known in the U.S. as an English racer, but it's an obsolete 3 speed that really isn't a racer, and from info I've looked up the style was never made in England. Don't blame me. : ) |
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12 Aug 10 - 06:28 PM (#2963931) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Q (Frank Staplin) No "English Shepherd" recognized by the American Kennel Club. |
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12 Aug 10 - 06:34 PM (#2963940) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Q (Frank Staplin) There is an English Shepherd Club. Wikipedia says a working dog of the collie lineage, developed in the United States from farm dogs brought by English and Scottish settlers to early America. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Shepherd |
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12 Aug 10 - 06:41 PM (#2963945) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Ebbie When I was a kid we had two bikes. One was a deep red Schwinn and the other we called an 'English bike'. It was a tall, skinny-tired yellow bicycle. Neither had multiple gears. In fact, I'm probably the only person in America who has never ridden a geared bike. At my age, I suppose it is not likely that I ever will. |
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12 Aug 10 - 08:01 PM (#2963993) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Q (Frank Staplin) Irish wolfhound, field use Irish setters and some other large breeds tend to have heart problems and shorter lives than smaller breeds, but size is not the only correlation in many heritable problems like lens luxation and subsequent glaucoma, or in hip dysplasia. Breeds with the luxation problem are border collies, many terriers, Australian Cattle Dog, Brittany and some other spaniels, Elkhounds and some others. My wife's miniature fox terrier happened to include a line in which the gene was present but had not been paired with a mate that also carried the gene. Several large breeds carry heritable hip dysplasia, but some mid-size breeds like border collies also can develop the problem. Consciencious breeders keep careful records and try to keep clear of lineages that that might contribute genes that carry these heritable problems, but are not always successful. The hip problem is operable, and a loved dog can have many active years after the condition is corrected. The eye problem can result in blindness, but the other senses take over and a blind dog can play and serve as a companion even though it cannot see. Canine medical specialists are expensive, treatments often over $1000, but if the pet has become a member of the family, the cost is borne stoically. |
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12 Aug 10 - 09:07 PM (#2964046) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Richard Bridge I'm surprised at heart disease in working or field trial setters - I have not heard of it in the UK, where the workers and FT people refer to the show ring dogs as "bucket-headed great brutes" but the show ring people refer to the others as "ugly little fliers". I'd expect the smaller lighter dog to have less heart trouble. But in general mins are created by inbreeding the runts of litters, and often have bad bone growth. Labs and GSDs are almost invariably hip scored in the UK. Irish Wolfhounds are problems as a re-created breed bred up from elkhounds with various crosses considerably after the true Irish Wolfhound became extinct and I expect the race for bulk to have resulted in defects. |
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12 Aug 10 - 11:35 PM (#2964098) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: Q (Frank Staplin) Richard, I am probably wrong about field trial dogs. My experience was with a very large Irish setter which was looking for food in alleys in our neighborhood. After leaving food for him for a few days, he finally would come into the yard. We tried to find an owner- he had a collar with his name- but no answers to advs. or reports to the animal shelters. The vet weighed him at 85 pounds (well above breed standards), treated him for worms and checked his health. We had a little farm as a summer place and decided to keep him. He was somewhat of a wanderer, and we would sometimes trace him down several miles away. He kept coyotes and other pests away, and would hunt out and destroy mouse nests around the graneries and barns. In the house however, he would be lying on the carpet, and his eyes would follow a mouse wandering across the floor, but he would not go after it. I guess he thought any animal in the house 'belonged'. He was a companion on any hikes, and would run at about 20 miles an hour, I clocked him once with the car. Another vet, near the farm, said he had seem similar red setters in Ontario, where some people used them to chase deer, keep bear at bay, etc. That's what I meant by 'field', probably not in the breeders sense of the word. My experience is with terriers only. One day he collapsed while running across the field and his heart had stopped. The same vet told me that about 10-12 years was the limit for them, but I have no personal knowledge of that. A strange dog, always seeming to keep a little distance, never the 'loving' type, but we missed him when he died. |
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13 Aug 10 - 02:40 PM (#2964526) Subject: RE: BS: Boasting about my dog From: gnu I can see how you would miss him, Q. Sounds he was a good dog. |
