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30 Aug 07 - 10:56 AM (#2136891) Subject: 'beechen gold' From: Roberto In Corny McDaid's recording of False Lover John (Child #4), Early Ballads in Ireland 1968-1985, edited by Hugh Shields & Tom Munnelly, European Ethnic Oral Traditions, there is this stanza: It's hold your tongue, my little parrot And tell no tales on me And your cage'll be made of a beechen gold Instead of a hazel tree Question: how to translate "beechen gold"? The singer misunderstood/mispronunced the usual "beaten gold", or it is to think that the cage shall be made of beechen and gold, or of golden beechen, or of beechen with gold inlay? Thanks. R |
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30 Aug 07 - 11:12 AM (#2136903) Subject: RE: 'beechen gold' From: Anne Lister Or possibly the person writing the words down misheard "beech and gold"? Most likely it's the "beaten gold" mishearing by the singer, though. |
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30 Aug 07 - 11:31 AM (#2136921) Subject: RE: 'beechen gold' From: Q (Frank Staplin) It is beaten gold in a version in Bronson and in Child, undoubtedly what is meant. 'Yellow gold' in another. Beechen is an old word for the word beech but obviously not meant here (see OED). Some Irish had a hard time with t and d, thus murther for murder, and possibly beathen for beaten, but there is no reason to use this mis-pronounciation. |
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30 Aug 07 - 01:36 PM (#2137020) Subject: RE: 'beechen gold' From: GUEST,Jim Carroll Con sang beaten on the occasions I heard him. Jim Carroll |