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07 Oct 07 - 09:00 PM (#2166186) Subject: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: BK Lick Select a Candidate Quiz "Answer the 11 questions below to find out which candidates are most aligned with your views and opinions. You may skip questions if you do not want them factored into the results. This quiz is not meant to pick your candidate for you. It is designed to inform the public of the various stances candidates make." |
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07 Oct 07 - 09:08 PM (#2166189) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: mg Biden. mg |
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07 Oct 07 - 09:15 PM (#2166191) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Ebbie Now that's very interesting! My highest candidates are almost neck and neck in the high 50s, comprising Chris Dodd, Dennis Kuchinich and Edwards. Clinton and Obama are equal at 54. No wonder I have problems. My least desired candidates are Giuliani, Romney and Ron Paul, descending downward until it fetches up at 5 - for Fred Thompson! |
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07 Oct 07 - 09:33 PM (#2166200) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Bill D Interesting...I had Richardson with a 'slight' lead, Clinton, Edwards & Obama tied right behind, and Biden a VERY close 4th......I AM a Democrat I see. (And all the Repub candidates WAY down the list. Brownback off the bottom of the scale.) As a matter of fact, That's almost the way I'd rank them, with the exception of Richardson....who I don't think is up to the job, whether he agrees with me or not. So far, I could live with any of the top 3-4 Democrats. It is very hard to say which one I think I trust most to DO a good job. |
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07 Oct 07 - 09:33 PM (#2166201) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Little Hawk Kucinich scored best for me, followed fairly closely by Richardson and Gravel. Figures.... ;-) The Republicans were all so low on the scale that they were somewhere beneath the third ring of hell. Heh! Clinton and Obama were sort of in the fuzzy middle area, as I would have expected. The fuzzy middle area is a fairly good place to be if you want to get elected...assuming that the votes are counted honestly... |
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07 Oct 07 - 09:49 PM (#2166209) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Lepus Rex Kuèiniæ, Score: 58. The questions were kind of shit, though: "Illegal immigration" didn't have an option for "Open the borders and breed whitey out," unfortunately. And the Iraq question didn't have a "We should lose" option. So I didn't get to click my actual choices. :P ---Lepus Rex |
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07 Oct 07 - 09:59 PM (#2166215) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Little Hawk Yeah, I felt the same way about the questions, Lepus. They reveal a certain kind of peculiar mindset. You wonder who thinks them up... Imagine posing a similar set of questions for the German public in 1942, regarding the thorny matter of just exactly what to do with occupied Poland, Holland, and France (etc)...whether to start bringing the boys home or instead hanging in for the long haul...keeping in mind the Reich's weighty moral responsibilities and its duty to uphold its committments to its own people and of course, to the rest of the world as well. ;-) |
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08 Oct 07 - 12:29 AM (#2166261) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Amos Looks like I support a Kucinich/Edwards ticket. Not a bad idea. A |
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08 Oct 07 - 01:21 AM (#2166269) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: katlaughing Kucinich was tops for me with 60 point, with Dodd in at 55. The latter surprises me. I voted for him when I lived in CT, but don't like some of the choices he's made since then. Obama, Clinton, and Edwards all tied at 50, then Gravel and the rest were way down low. I would have preferred some different wording, too, but they do them that way on purpose. |
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08 Oct 07 - 01:57 AM (#2166275) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Ebbie I could go for a Kucinich/Edwards ticket, Amos. |
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08 Oct 07 - 08:37 AM (#2166427) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Riginslinger Kucinich - Except I disagreed with him on immigration which I marked as the most important issue. |
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08 Oct 07 - 09:41 AM (#2166462) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Alice I've posted this link in other threads, but here it is again, as it is a good selector site. http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008.html |
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08 Oct 07 - 09:48 AM (#2166466) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Bobert Dennis "the Menace" Kucinich... Smart guy... |
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08 Oct 07 - 10:02 AM (#2166473) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Ron Davies Alice, your link is much better than the first link, since it allows "none", "all" etc. and doesn't seem to lock the person taking the poll into a straitjacket of the poll-designer's choosing. Al Gore, followed by Obama |
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08 Oct 07 - 10:14 AM (#2166479) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: GUEST,TIA Kucinich on both for me. No big surprise. |
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08 Oct 07 - 12:14 PM (#2166557) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Wolfgang Chris Dodd, followed by Kucinich for me, Obama and Clinton tied in the middle of the field, Tancredo and Thompson tied at the end. We had before our last election a similar "Who you should vote for if you tell us what you think" game. Winner for me was a party I would never and did not vote for. Wolfgang |
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08 Oct 07 - 12:36 PM (#2166573) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Ebbie Ranging from 81% upward: Kucinich, Obama and Dodd, with Clinton, Gore and Edwards just below From 34% downward, McCain, Giuliani, Romney and Thompson I saw a bumper sticker that read: Obama 08 |
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08 Oct 07 - 12:44 PM (#2166578) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Peace Dodd, Kucinich |
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08 Oct 07 - 01:21 PM (#2166618) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Don Firth Kucinich, followed by Dodd. Surprise, surprise! (But not exactly.) Don Firth |
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08 Oct 07 - 02:21 PM (#2166673) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: katlaughing Me, too, Don.:-) Ebbie, my fav. bumper sticker seen, so far, said Cheney/Satan 08! |
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08 Oct 07 - 02:46 PM (#2166690) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Little Hawk Alice, that test you posted the link too is far, far better than the one this thread is based on. The questions are much better posed, with much better choices in how to answer. It's a test that does not force the respondent to be shoehorned into giving answers which don't represent what he really wants. I did it, and the result was quite interesting! Barack Obama scored highest for me, with 87%. That surprised me. Dennis Kucinich again was very high, with 85%. That did not surprise me. Next came Dodd, 77%, then Hillary, Biden and Edwards in the lower 70's... Giuliani scored 25% for me. Heh! A little bit better than I expected... Here's the link again...for the rest of you. http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008.html That's an intelligent, well thought out test, Alice. Everybody in the USA ought to take it and give the results some careful thought. |
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08 Oct 07 - 03:00 PM (#2166698) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Little Hawk By the way, one of the problems with the first test is that the questions are crafted in such a way as to polarize people into opposite extremes about something when they answer. That's not smart. The 2nd test offers a much more reasonable way of answering, and that tends to avoid polarizing people into extremes which they don't necessarily endorse. It isn't always just "Hell, yes!" or "Over my dead body!" |
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08 Oct 07 - 03:17 PM (#2166708) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Ebbie One presents what one has, Little Hawk. :) People who rate various surveys/questionaires - and very well too - should design and present their own. So we can rate them. *G* |
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08 Oct 07 - 03:27 PM (#2166715) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Don Firth Interesting poll, Little Hawk. I tried it. It came out pretty much the same for me. 1. Dennis Kucinch 2. Barack Obama 3. Christopher Dodd 4. Joseph Biden 5. Hillary Clinton But—I'm gonna take a closer look at a couple of people I haven't heard all that much about (Dodd, Biden). Ballots are a bit like-- Well, say there's only one restaurant in town. You look over the menu, and there really isn't much there that appeals. So if you're going to eat at all, you have to pick something that won't (you hope) make you gag. Don Firth |
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08 Oct 07 - 03:45 PM (#2166723) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Little Hawk Oh, for sure, Ebbie. ;-) I was not criticizing you in any way, just trying to draw more people's attention to the 2nd questionairre. Yeah, Don, that's exactly what a ballot is like. I don't think of elections as much of a representation of the people's will...I think of them as a representation of the power structure's formalized way of maintaining itself by getting the people to rubber stamp it at regular intervals. (sigh) Still, one must make the best choices one can from the menu, as you say. |
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08 Oct 07 - 03:47 PM (#2166725) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: PoppaGator My results showed all Democrats between 39 and 29 and all Republicans between 15 and 1. So far, not a surprise. What did surprise me was that I had the two "mainstream" front-runner Dems first (Hillary at 39, Obama at 38) and Biden last among the Dems (29). I'd like to think of myself as less middle-of-the-road than that, and I like Joe Biden. John Edwards (tied for fifth at 33) is probably my first choice among those with a reasonably good chance of actually capturing the nomination. I was also surprised that Rudy G, who I regard as a lying snake, came in as my fave among the Republicans (at 15) and John McCain, who I admire despite disagreeing with him on various issues, was next-to-last at 6. |
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08 Oct 07 - 03:51 PM (#2166730) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: GUEST,Neil D Dennis is my #1 in both surveys. No surprise there. That seems to be the case with most posts on this thread. Are we a bunch of radical left-wingers or could Mr. Kucinich possibly be more electible than the media makes him out to be? Someone named Duncan Hunter is last on both surveys. Who the hell is Duncan Hunter? Some kind of fascist? |
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08 Oct 07 - 04:04 PM (#2166741) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Cruiser Using the better site Alice linked: 1) Al Gore (61%) 2) John Edwards (60%); for whom I said I want as President 3) Mitt Romney (43%); the only Republican for whom I could vote. Lifelong Republican and an atheist who just wants a Decent, Ethical, and Honest President. |
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08 Oct 07 - 04:18 PM (#2166750) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Don Firth Yes, Neil, I think Kucinich is much more electable than he is being portrayed. The media simply wrote him off last time, and they're doing it again. (Mutter mutter snarl!!) Don Firth |
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08 Oct 07 - 04:37 PM (#2166759) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Riginslinger Then second test gave me Alan Augustson! |
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08 Oct 07 - 04:45 PM (#2166766) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Bill D I repeat what I have said before....there is HUGE difference between having goals and principles you agree with a candidate about, and having any sense that he/she would do a decent job of achieving those goals. I want the troops out of Iraq and home, but Kucinich seems to say he'd just 'pull 'em out' as fast as he could load ships & planes, and that, most experts say, would NOT work... Kucinich is like Ralph Nader...great principles, but little practical notion of how to get there reasonably. It's all a moot point, though, as he will never BE nominated, much less elected. |
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08 Oct 07 - 04:58 PM (#2166779) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Peace The withdrawal of troops in what is still a combat zone MUST be accomplished with the safety of the troops in mind. I don't think the USA needs another Saigon Embassy scene. |
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08 Oct 07 - 05:07 PM (#2166781) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: BK Lick Hmmm...the second site returned some different results for me. F'rinstance, Ol' Motormouth goes from 8th to 3rd of the running candidates, while Dodd goes from 2nd to 5th, and Gravel goes from 3rd to 8th. It's confusin' but amusin' ain't it? From first site: 1 Dennis Kucinich 68 2 Chris Dodd 66 3 Mike Gravel 61 4 Barack Obama 59 5 Hillary Clinton 59 6 Bill Richardson 49 7 John Edwards 47 8 Joe Biden 45 9 Ron Paul 35 10 Rudy Giuliani 33 11 Mitt Romney 19 12 Sam Brownback 12 13 John McCain 12 14 Jim Gilmore 12 15 Duncan Hunter 5 From second site: 1. Dennis Kucinich (81%) 2. Barack Obama (80%) 3. Alan Augustson (campaign suspended) (77%) 4. Joseph Biden (74%) 5. Hillary Clinton (72%) 6. Wesley Clark (not running, endorsed Clinton) (70%) 7. Al Gore (not announced) (69%) 8. Christopher Dodd (68%) 9. John Edwards (67%) 10. Michael Bloomberg (says he will not run) (65%) 11. Bill Richardson (59%) 12. Mike Gravel (55%) 13. Elaine Brown (42%) 14. Ron Paul (42%) 15. Kent McManigal (campaign suspended) (37%) 16. Mike Huckabee (30%) 17. Rudolph Giuliani (30%) 18. John McCain (27%) 19. Tommy Thompson (withdrawn) (23%) 20. Mitt Romney (20%) 21. Alan Keyes (18%) 22. Chuck Hagel (not running) (15%) 23 Fred Thompson (13%) 24. Sam Brownback (12%) 25. Tom Tancredo (11%) 26. Newt Gingrich (says he will not run) (10%) 27. Jim Gilmore (withdrawn) (10%) 28. Duncan Hunter (7%) |
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08 Oct 07 - 05:40 PM (#2166802) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Riginslinger Can anybody watch Mike Huckabee on television without thinking of Gomer Pyle? |
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08 Oct 07 - 05:49 PM (#2166816) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River I'm puttin' my money on Duncan Hunter, eh? When the odds in a flippin' horserace are THAT long, think about the FLIPPIN' PAYOFF if he won!!!! I could retire on that. - Shane |
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08 Oct 07 - 08:11 PM (#2166922) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Mrrzy I got Kuci first, and Obama one above Clinton but both pretty far down on the list... I was surprised that the one I *thought* I agreed with, Edwards, was I think 3rd or 4th. My moveon.org friends are behind Kucinich, though, maybe I'll listen a little harder... |
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08 Oct 07 - 09:11 PM (#2166954) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: RangerSteve I learned nothing. I dissagreed with Biden on five items, and it got worse after that. It looks like another year where I won't vote. |
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08 Oct 07 - 10:52 PM (#2166989) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: wysiwyg Although I do think an issues-orientation is important, it's not, for me, the MOST important factor in selecting who to support. I am not sure I would vote for the people in this list who agreed with me; I want a candidate that will be truthful and have the guts to disagree with me and tell me what I missed that may have left me under-informed, and then work with me to reach a consensus for short-term action while long-term understanding develops. ("me" as in "people like me," whoever THAT is) But then, I'm Anglican. ~S~ |
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08 Oct 07 - 11:09 PM (#2166997) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Little Hawk Agreed, Susan, it's definitely not the only important factor in terms of who to vote for. It is the single most important factor? Perhaps. Depends on the situation, I guess. |
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09 Oct 07 - 12:52 AM (#2167025) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Neil D I also noticed that Edwards was further down than I thought he would be. I figured him for 2nd and 1st among the Dem frontrunners and he fell below Hillary and Baraka in both polls. He must be aa astute campaigner to make us think we are closer to him on issues than we really are. |
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09 Oct 07 - 04:28 AM (#2167073) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Wolfgang My second test had Obama on the top. My problem with these tests is that there are some issues where I hope a candidate I favour does not openly support the position I favour (deep in my heart), for I know that this position would make her unelectable for the majority of voters.... So who's Clinton going to nominate as vice president candidate? Edwards or Obama. My bet is on Edwards but my heart's for Obama. Wolfgang |
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09 Oct 07 - 07:46 AM (#2167147) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: McGrath of Harlow Second site gave me Obama first 86%, Kucinich at 80%, and Clinton down at 69% Why do people (both supporters and opponents) keep on referring to her as "Hillary" when all the others are referred to by their surnames? |
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09 Oct 07 - 12:10 PM (#2167301) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Ebbie I have noticed that too, McGrath. I guess it helps keep her in her place. :) Actually I think it might be an attempt to differentiate her immediately from Bill C. |
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09 Oct 07 - 12:35 PM (#2167321) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: McGrath of Harlow I suppose that last could be one reason - like "Dubya" for Bush the Younger. |
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09 Oct 07 - 01:21 PM (#2167350) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Little Hawk I call her Hillary because I like her, McGrath (on a personal level, I mean...maybe not as much on a political level). And it distinguishes her from her famous husband. Hey, Wolfgang...you and I appear to agree 100% when it comes to answering these questionaires about the American presidential candidates. How about that? ;-) As long as other-worldly, mysterious, and esoteric matters are put aside, we seem to get along marvelously! Giuliani said yesterday that a Clinton-Obama ticket for the Democrats would be just about impossible for the Republicans to beat. I wonder if he was being sincere in saying that or attempting to spread disinformation? |
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09 Oct 07 - 01:50 PM (#2167367) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Ebbie Govem that there are still substantial numbers of people in the US who are closet racists/closet sexists, I wonder how well such a ticket would play out. If Clinton and Obama are the candidates I most certainly will vote for them and work for their election but I would feel safer with just one of the closet buttons. |
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09 Oct 07 - 01:52 PM (#2167368) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Don Firth I tend to refer to Hillary Rodham Clinton as "Hillary," not because I am a male chauvinist pig, nor because I lack respect for her achievements, but for reasons of economical communication. In the context of a political discussion, I can mention "Hillary," without having to add "Rodham" and/or "Clinton," and people will quite probably grasp -a) than I am speaking of Hillary Rodham Clinton, and -b) the political context of the discussion will be a good indication that I am not talking about Hilary (note: only one "l") Hahn, the young classical violin virtuoso (virtuosa?). I live in an area of the U. S. where a measure of informality seems to be in order, and with certain exceptions (e.g., a patient addressing a doctor, a student addressing a teacher or professor, or a young person addressing someone quite a bit older), and especially in social situations, people are very quick to begin using someone else's first name even upon first meeting. It seems quite friendly and I've never heard anyone object. Were I to meet Hillary Rodham Clinton, I would undoubtedly address her as "Mrs. Clinton," unless and until she suggested otherwise. Donald Richard Firth (But you may call me "Don." Or "Don Firth," to distinguish me from, say, Donald Trump, Donald Duck, or Don Quixote) |
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09 Oct 07 - 02:26 PM (#2167388) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Wolfgang re: Hillary It could be the wish not to confuse her with Mr. Clinton, but I think Kevin McGrath's observation has also another background: Prominent females tend to be referred to more often by the first name than men are. Angie (our Chancelorette) or Maggie are (were) familiar names in German tabloids, Gerhard or Tony aren't. BTW, in our faculty the only professor who is consistently referred to by her first name when two people talk about her is female. Wolfgang |
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09 Oct 07 - 02:59 PM (#2167409) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: GUEST,Neil D I also say Hillary when referring to Ms. Clinton, but if you notice, I also say Dennis and Barack. |
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09 Oct 07 - 04:16 PM (#2167478) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: McGrath of Harlow "Tony" and "Maggie" were used pretty well equally in England. Probably more so by people who detested them than by their admirers, I'd say. The same goes for Gordon. I think there can be a sense, in England anyway,that using their first name can be a way of cutting public figures down to size. |
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09 Oct 07 - 04:34 PM (#2167497) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Little Hawk Okay, but that's so much the case with Hillary. At least I don't think it is. Besides, "Hillary" is a very unique name, so it makes a good way of referring to her...better than calling her "Clinton" or "Mrs Clinton". |
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09 Oct 07 - 06:53 PM (#2167601) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Ebbie Another way to refer to her is as Senator Clinton. |
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09 Oct 07 - 06:58 PM (#2167608) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: John Hardly hmmm. I took the test. It said that I should vote for Lincoln. |
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09 Oct 07 - 10:25 PM (#2167731) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Ebbie *G* |
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10 Oct 07 - 10:06 AM (#2168007) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Donuel Vote for FRED T & JEB B in 2008 they'll kill or deport the evil you hate. YOU HAVE ALREADY VOTED for the next white guy who is supported by the military. brought to you by Diebold (WE KNOW WHO WE ARE WORKING FOR) Hillary/Obama 08 & Edwards dept of State |
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10 Oct 07 - 10:17 AM (#2168016) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Donuel Mike Gravel Score: 46 Agree Immigration Taxes Stem-Cell Research Health Care Abortion Social Security Marriage Death Penalty Disagree Iraq Line-Item Veto Energy Chris Dodd Score: 46 Video Agree Immigration Taxes Stem-Cell Research Health Care Abortion Social Security Marriage Death Penalty Disagree Iraq Line-Item Veto Energy Dennis Kucinich Score: 45 Agree Taxes Stem-Cell Research Health Care Abortion Social Security Marriage Death Penalty Disagree Iraq Immigration Line-Item Veto Energy Bill Richardson Score: 43 Video Agree Taxes Stem-Cell Research Health Care Abortion Social Security Line-Item Veto Marriage Disagree Iraq Immigration Energy Death Penalty Barack Obama Score: 41 Video Agree Immigration Taxes Stem-Cell Research Health Care Abortion Social Security Marriage Disagree Iraq Line-Item Veto Energy Death Penalty Hillary Clinton Score: 41 Agree Immigration Taxes Stem-Cell Research Health Care Abortion Social Security Marriage Disagree Iraq Line-Item Veto Energy Death Penalty John Edwards Great haircut |
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10 Oct 07 - 08:19 PM (#2168450) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Donuel Huckabee and Finn in 2008 |
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10 Oct 07 - 08:25 PM (#2168455) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Little Hawk Opus and Bill in 2008! Remember their slogan: "This time, why not the WORST???" |
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10 Oct 07 - 10:11 PM (#2168492) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Ebbie Oh no! Not again! |
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25 Dec 07 - 05:34 PM (#2222486) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: GUEST,Ron Paul for President http://www.usadaily.com/article.cfm?articleID=207908 Republican presidential candidate and Texas Congressman, Ron Paul, can win the presidency. Contrary to the pundits and media propaganda, Ron Paul is best positioned to win the GOP nomination. Ron Paul has more money than his opponents and is just starting to gain momentum. As a result of massive popular support Paul's donor base is huge and donors are not close to reaching contribution limits. Paul's opponents are going broke and their donors are maxed out. Ron Paul may raise 20 million this quarter and chances are he'll raise more the next quarter.... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/ Season's greetings. :-) |
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25 Dec 07 - 06:46 PM (#2222502) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Stringsinger Dennis! Frank |
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25 Dec 07 - 09:11 PM (#2222538) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Riginslinger I ended up with Kucinich as my first choice, but the only one I agreed with on immigration was Tom Tancredo. The only issue I listed as "very important" was immigration, so I think there's something wrong with their program. |
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26 Dec 07 - 02:24 PM (#2222808) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: John on the Sunset Coast The list is poor and poorer, and we need to make this important decision much too early thanks to the cable news channels. I do not believe there isn't a single states(wo)man amongst them. They are all twits who will say anything and do anything to get the nomination, and hope the don't make a gaffe, and further hope that their skeletons--however minor or long ago--don't show up. I will leave President blank on my February ballot. |
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26 Dec 07 - 11:25 PM (#2223021) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Riginslinger Kucinich for both, but I'm demanding a recount! |
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11 Jan 08 - 01:59 PM (#2234071) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: dwditty Refresh in response to Richard Bridge's thread. |
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11 Jan 08 - 02:34 PM (#2234106) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Riginslinger Hillary Edwards Kucinich |
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11 Jan 08 - 02:39 PM (#2234114) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Little Hawk Did you try the second test? Its questions are much better thought out. |
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11 Jan 08 - 04:03 PM (#2234172) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Lonesome EJ No surprise about the leaders in Poll #1...a tie between Hilary and Barack. Kind of surprising that McCain was near the bottom. |
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11 Jan 08 - 04:09 PM (#2234181) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Riginslinger Second poll Kucinich Obama Hillary |
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11 Jan 08 - 04:16 PM (#2234188) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Donuel Bush 08 even baseball has 3 strikes |
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11 Jan 08 - 05:34 PM (#2234258) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: DougR Go Kucinich! DougR |
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11 Jan 08 - 05:41 PM (#2234266) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Little Hawk Thanks, Doug. ;-) The pity of it is, of course, the man has no hope of becoming the Democratic Party's choice to run for president. Or even, apparently, of getting on its televised debates anymore, despite winning a number of internet polls taken among people generally who plan to vote Democratic. But you'd like him to run, wouldn't you, because you're quite sure he couldn't win? |
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11 Jan 08 - 06:11 PM (#2234301) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Richard Bridge Very helpful refresh thanks |
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11 Jan 08 - 06:14 PM (#2234306) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Richard Bridge But Kat Swift and Brian Moore were not on either list.... |
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11 Jan 08 - 07:08 PM (#2234345) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Riginslinger Help us out a little, Richard. Who are they? |
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12 Jan 08 - 03:34 AM (#2234553) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: GUEST,dianavan Dodd was #1 for me and I don't even know who he is. |
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12 Jan 08 - 03:59 AM (#2234560) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Richard Bridge I think that Dianavan's comment does betray a failing of the US news media, so no wonder I found it hard (and am still finding it hard) to get a rounded picture of the options being presented (and obstructed) for teh US voting public. Wikipedia list of candidates Brian Moore, socialist party candidate The website is not all that good. He is also in Wikipedia as "Brian Moore, politician" Kat Swift, a green candidate Again the website is poor, and again she is also in Wikipedia. Do have a look at some of the others on the Wikipedia list. The fact that such loonies can stand for president gives me a little faith in the US system, but alas the way that dollars and media interests put a barrier in the way of propagation of points of view that are not from the political mainstream (NB, not the voters mainstream) of the main parties I think outweigh that little sign of health many times over. |
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12 Jan 08 - 10:18 AM (#2234684) Subject: RE: BS: Select a Presidential Candidate From: Mooh Using a friend's zip code and pretending to be from the Excited States, Clinton at 84, followed by Dodd, Kucinich, and Obama. That was fun, makes watching US news worthwhile. Peace, Mooh. |