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BS: Shameful

29 Oct 07 - 08:23 AM (#2181695)
Subject: BS: Shameful
From: number 6

I'm one Canadian that is not proud about this


29 Oct 07 - 08:27 AM (#2181697)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: kendall

You don't have a "Freedom of Information" act?


29 Oct 07 - 08:40 AM (#2181712)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: beardedbruce

Still nothing compared to the continued mining and export of asbestos ( in violation of international law)- THAT will kill millions of innocent civilians...


29 Oct 07 - 08:40 AM (#2181713)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: number 6

We do ... but this is an example of government beauracracy getting in the way and trying to prevent the truth getting out.

biLL


29 Oct 07 - 08:41 AM (#2181716)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: number 6

We're just like all the rest bb.

biLL


29 Oct 07 - 08:46 AM (#2181719)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: beardedbruce

* I * have never said any differently- we are all human, imperfect but capable of attempting both wonderful and horrible things.


29 Oct 07 - 08:52 AM (#2181723)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: GUEST,Number 6

I can't agree with you more bb.

But ... sometimes I think we Canadians get a bit too 'smug' when we point our fingers at the fault of the political and corporate evil south of the border ... I think we should keep track a bit more of the mess going on in our own backyard.

biLL


29 Oct 07 - 08:55 AM (#2181729)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: beardedbruce

And I agree with THAT comment, as well.


Not that citizens of the USA are innocent of the same attitude...


29 Oct 07 - 09:00 AM (#2181741)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: Rapparee

And then there's the yellowcake....

I had heard about the arms sales and assumed that Canadians knew about them.

No nation is blameless. Let's see, who was that cat who said something about "throwing the first stone"....


29 Oct 07 - 09:02 AM (#2181745)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: bobad

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa!


29 Oct 07 - 09:02 AM (#2181746)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: beardedbruce

culpa of what?


29 Oct 07 - 09:22 AM (#2181763)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: Rapparee

Well, if you want to take all the guilt upon yourself no one will stop you.

But I fail to see why Canada, which is hardly the world's largest arms exporter. In 2006, the "Big 15" exporters were, in order

US
UK
France
People's Republic of China
Japan
Germany
Russia
Italy
Saudi Arabia
India
South Korea
Canada
Australia
Brazil
Spain

(look up the source yourself; I'm not going to do all your work!)

Hell, when you rank well behind France, Japan, and Italy....


29 Oct 07 - 09:40 AM (#2181787)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: GUEST,Number 6

Thanks Rapaire ... but according to that CBC new article ... "The surge in exports has made Canada the sixth-biggest supplier of military goods to the world, according to the most recent report by the U.S. Congressional Research Service."

biLL


29 Oct 07 - 09:44 AM (#2181790)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: beardedbruce

Not even looking at it on a per-capita basis!


29 Oct 07 - 09:53 AM (#2181797)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: Rapparee

Possibly, but the data from 2007 isn't all in yet. And I just report what I found; I don't have the CRS to do my work for me.


29 Oct 07 - 10:06 AM (#2181810)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: GUEST,number 6

The CBC ... well, we still have that.

Speaking of work ... I should get off of here and get back to it. :)

biLL


29 Oct 07 - 10:10 AM (#2181815)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: Peace

Of interest to me would be where they are exported to, and how much of the export is being done through 'second' parties.


29 Oct 07 - 10:26 AM (#2181830)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: Peace

Arms sales: No point discussing morals in a whore house.


29 Oct 07 - 10:55 AM (#2181864)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: kendall

LOL !


29 Oct 07 - 11:19 AM (#2181880)
Subject: RE: BS: Shameful
From: number 6

Good one Peace!

And with that, I tip the piano player and make my exit ... quietly.

biLL