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Victorian Era Music?

29 Apr 99 - 10:25 PM (#74452)
Subject: Victorian Era Music?
From: Ayrik

Can anyone give me the names of songs that are associated with the Victorian era? I may get asked to sing at a Victorian Art Fair, and I'm really not sure what constitutes a "Victorian song". Any ideas, anyone? Thanks!


30 Apr 99 - 02:11 AM (#74504)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: SeanM

A lot of the more fairly well known ones go under the names 'music hall' or 'broadsides'... My personal fave is probably always going to be 'They're Moving Father's Grave to Build a Sewer'... I'm not sure if it's Victorian for true, but it's good enough for me....

M


30 Apr 99 - 02:37 AM (#74511)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: katlaughing

Try the links connection, on the main page, which will take you to a bunch. Scroll down to the Lester Levy Collection at Johns Hopkins Univ. If you browse the collection you should find some good ones. Sheet music of anything that is in public domain and/ or published before 1924, can be viewed and printed out.

Victorian Parlour Songs, mmmm, there's the Flowers that bloom in the Spring, Tra-la. Another great place to try would be the old 78's site here:

click here

It has brief samples of audio and they are categorised.

If I get a chance to tomorrow, I'll look through a couple of old books. I know I have some because mom used to sing them for her parents.

katlaughing


30 Apr 99 - 02:51 AM (#74514)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: SeanM

Just remembered... I have a great book called 'The Parlour Song Book'. Editor is Michael R. Turner, published by Viking Press, ISBN #670-54039-0...

Hope that helps. Don't know if it's in print, but it's worth a shot.

M


30 Apr 99 - 09:02 AM (#74566)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: Bobby Bob, Ellan Vannin

The Flowers That Bloom in the Spring, Tra-la is certainly Victorian, as it's Gilbert & Sullivan.

Music Hall is one genre, and Parlour Songs is another.

Shoh slaynt,

Bobby Bob


30 Apr 99 - 09:20 AM (#74576)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: MMario

Anything classed as American Civil War would be Victorian...though from the wrong side of the A

MMariotlantic


30 Apr 99 - 10:51 AM (#74602)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: Steve Parkes

I'll take you home again Kathleen (all four verses), My grandfather's clock (ditto) spring to mind . They're both in the Parlour Songbook, by the way. Music Hall: there's a Cosmotheka website somewhere with a lot of their stuff on. I don't know the adress, so you'll have to search for it. Some of them have midi files. 'Course, they're English: are you American, Ayrik? They might not make much sense.

Steve


30 Apr 99 - 01:27 PM (#74641)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: Tom May,

I must say that when anyone says "Victorian music", for some reason I always think of "Villikins and His Dinah" (although I only know a "rugby" song to the same tune) and "She was poor, but she was honest" (as above, but I do have a partial "cleaner" version of this). You could try "Cheer,Boys Cheer", the "hit song" of the Army in the Crimea. Do you know which bit of the Victorian era you are considering? after all, you have a 64 year span to play with.

Good luck.

Tom


30 Apr 99 - 08:50 PM (#74735)
Subject: Thanks to all!
From: Ayrik

I appreciate everyone's input! It gives me a sense of what I need to be looking for. Funny that I hadn't even *thought* of Gilbert & Sullivan! Oh, and to answer Steve's question, yes I am American, but I wasn't necessarily looking for songs that fit only an American perspective. I was just sort of looking for a broad-based kind of idea of where to begin, and I have certainly gotten that! Thanks a bunch, everyone!


01 May 99 - 02:48 AM (#74819)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: Rincon Roy

And then as pointed out in earlier threads, there's the Library of Congress' American Memory collections which include 19th century sheet music here: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/smhtml/smhome.htmlusic

Also, thanks Tom; so that's where "Cheer,Boys Cheer" came from. It's a great march! Didn't know there were lyrics tagging along with it. Hmmm.


11 Feb 00 - 04:31 PM (#176822)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: richardw

tom;

where did you learn about cheer boys cheer and the crimean war?

I am interested as it was used for a pro-confederation song here in BC Canada.

richard


11 Feb 00 - 04:49 PM (#176828)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: GUEST

Henry Clay Work's songs.


11 Feb 00 - 05:19 PM (#176843)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: Jacob B

Regarding Villikens and his Dinah: I've seen a songbook published in the 1890's in London. It included Villikens, and said of it "this song was nearly forgotten until its recent revival on the music hall stage." So it's an older song, which was popular again in Victorian times.


11 Feb 00 - 06:07 PM (#176861)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: Amos

I've always been fond of "Only a Bird In A Gilded Cage" and the parody, I guess, "Her Mother Never Told Her (The Things That A Young Girl Should Know)".

I think "Father Dear Father Come Home With Me Now" and "The Daring Young Man On The Flying Trapeze" would qualify, not certain tho'.

A


12 Feb 00 - 05:50 PM (#177293)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: richardw

Also, Pretty Polly Perkins of Paggington Green, with same tune as Cussie Butterfield. Up in a Ballon; MouseTrap Man; Stephen Foster Songs; Jessie the Flower of Dumblane; YELLOW ROSE OF TEXAS (1850--ORIG. AT LEVY); Bay of Biscay; Old Oaken Bucket; King of the Cannibal Islands, Castles in the Air...and on . For a long list see S. Foster's Song of Songs in mudcat database.

Richard


13 Feb 00 - 08:21 PM (#177836)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: richardw

refresh


13 Feb 00 - 09:06 PM (#177854)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: Tiger

Ayrik......

Try some of the earlier threads at:

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=585#1603

and

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=12583#100256

for discussion of a dynamite turn-of-the-century album.


13 Feb 00 - 09:11 PM (#177859)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: jofield

There is a sweet old American hymn from the Victorian era "as sung at the funeral of the late James A. Garfield", called "Beautiful Isle of Somewhere". Perhaps someone has ready access to the complete lyrics.

James.


13 Feb 00 - 09:20 PM (#177864)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: jofield

Correction: "as sung at the funeral of our martyred president, William McKinley".


13 Feb 00 - 10:39 PM (#177900)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: John in Brisbane

Queen Vic died in 1901. If you really want to be authentic then you could try and pick songs which pre-date this time. I believe that a few of the songs above are probably closer to vaudeville than Victorian music hall. In any event I hope you enjoy it, it's great material to do, plus you have the opportunity to dress in the period, do something silly with your hair and generally ham it up - I'm beginning to feel envious. Regards, John


14 Feb 00 - 10:41 PM (#178459)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: richardw

Check out Bengamin Tubb's site at pdmusic.org.

Lots of material there with midis.

You'd be surprised how much earlier some music is than what we think.

richard


05 Dec 11 - 02:08 PM (#3268858)
Subject: RE: Victorian Era Music?
From: GUEST

hey im a dude