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30 Apr 99 - 08:22 AM (#74557) Subject: Rose of Alabamy From: partner@together.net Can anyone provide information about the composer and history of the song "Rose of Alabamy"? Thanks, Daniel |
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30 Apr 99 - 09:04 AM (#74568) Subject: RE: Rose of Alabamy From: DonMeixner Daniel, The only place I have ever heard this song mentioned was in "The Outlaw Josie Wales". It probably really exists elsewhere but thats the only reference known to me. Don |
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30 Apr 99 - 09:08 AM (#74571) Subject: RE: Rose of Alabamy From: Tucker Try "Taylor's traditional tunebook". I know that Barry has it there. You probably heard it on the Outlaw Jose Welles. That's where I first heard it. I have no clue as to the author but Barry does answer questions sometimes by mail. You may ask him. Joe Offer may know this too. |
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30 Apr 99 - 02:05 PM (#74647) Subject: RE: Rose of Alabamy From: Tucker PS, if you don't find your info at Taylor's I have the words to the song. I'll be happy to write them for you. |
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30 Apr 99 - 08:05 PM (#74724) Subject: RE: Rose of Alabamy From: Banjer I checked my several versions of the song but none tells the author. The best explanation I can get is on a CD of 97th Regimental String Band (a locally based Civil War reenactment band) which says it is a "pre-civil war comedy song unascribed to any source." Called a member of their band who lives nearby and he could shed no better light on it. If you do find it, please share it as I am now curious as well. |
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30 Apr 99 - 09:06 PM (#74738) Subject: RE: Rose of Alabamy From: Ole Bull "Rose" is one of those songs that was popular amoung the explosion of Minstrel bands before the Civil War. Publishers released numerous versions of different verses surrounding the common chorus but no one has offered a difinitive authorship of the melody. |
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01 May 99 - 04:52 PM (#74962) Subject: RE: Rose of Alabamy From: arkie According to our resident expert, Dr. W. K. McNeil, the writer of Rose of Alabama was one Silas S. Steele. The song was a minstrel show piece written in 1846. |
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14 Feb 04 - 11:13 PM (#1116147) Subject: RE: Rose of Alabamy From: GUEST,john where can I find sheet music (piano) for this song? |
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14 Feb 04 - 11:29 PM (#1116150) Subject: RE: Rose of Alabamy From: LadyJean I have it on a record, "Songs of the North and South" (Dad was a civil war buff.) I'll bet the Stephen Foster Memorial Library at the University of Pittsburgh would have the music for it. |
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14 Feb 04 - 11:35 PM (#1116154) Subject: RE: Rose of Alabamy From: Q (Frank Staplin) Rose of Alabama, 1846, Steele, sheet music is in the Levy Collection: THE ROSE OF ALABAMA |
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14 Feb 04 - 11:40 PM (#1116156) Subject: RE: Rose of Alabamy From: Q (Frank Staplin) Never do get Levy right. Just use Levy Sheet Music and enter Rose of Alabama in "Search" |
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14 Feb 04 - 11:42 PM (#1116157) Subject: RE: Rose of Alabamy From: Q (Frank Staplin) How did that get cut off?? Levy Sheet Music |
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15 Feb 04 - 12:45 AM (#1116168) Subject: RE: Rose of Alabamy From: masato sakurai Title: The Rose of Alabama (Words Used by Permission of Turner & Fisher). Composer, Lyricist, Arranger: Words by S.S. Steele. Music na Publication: Boston: Geo. P. Reed, 17 Tremont Row, 1846. Form of Composition: strophic with chorus Instrumentation: piano and voice First Line: Away from Mississippi's vale, Wid my ole hat dar for a sail First Line of Chorus: Oh, brown Rosey, De Rose ob Alabama, A sweet tobacco posey Performer: Sung by A.F. Winnemore & His Band of Serenaders |
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15 Feb 04 - 12:52 AM (#1116170) Subject: RE: Rose of Alabamy From: masato sakurai From American Memory: The rose of Alabama. H. De Marsan, No. 38 Chatham Street, N. Y. [n. d.] (song sheet) Fantasia and variations on the Ethiopian air "The rose of Alabama," op. 2 / by Theod. Von La Hache (Philadelphia: A. Fiot, 1846). |
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15 Feb 04 - 01:21 AM (#1116179) Subject: RE: Rose of Alabamy From: masato sakurai "The Rose of Alabama" lyrics & midi are at Public Domain Music: Music from 1800-1860 (under 1846). Words by S. S. Steele / Sung by A. F. Winnemore & His Band of Serenaders / Arranged for the Piano Forte. / [Music: anonymous] |
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24 Jun 13 - 03:59 PM (#3529899) Subject: RE: Origin: Rose of Alabamy? / Rose of Alabama From: GUEST,George Wasn't this also in the background music in Hang 'Um High? |
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30 Oct 16 - 01:13 AM (#3817156) Subject: RE: Origin: Rose of Alabamy? / Rose of Alabama From: GUEST,Old Steve Rose of Alabamy is in reference to the tobacco fields. The rose of Alabama is the tobacco plant |
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30 Oct 16 - 04:12 PM (#3817288) Subject: RE: Origin: Rose of Alabamy? / Rose of Alabama From: leeneia The chorus goes: Cho: Oh brown Rosie, Rose of Alabamy. A sweet tobacco posey Is my Rose of Alabamy. A sweet tobacco posey Is my Rose of Alabamy. Sweet tobacco (Nicotiana alata) is related to the tobacco used for cigarettes, but it is much nicer. It has pretty flowers of various colors, and it smells sweet in the evening. It is a common garden flower in warm areas. The singer is comparing her to the the flower. I grew it one year, but the plants were straggly and it needed too much watering. |
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31 Oct 16 - 07:40 AM (#3817363) Subject: RE: Origin: Rose of Alabamy? / Rose of Alabama From: mkebenn I've always believed that this song was a thinly veiled love song by a white man to a mixed race female, similar to " The Yellow Rose of Texas". Mike |
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12 Oct 17 - 01:39 PM (#3881834) Subject: RE: Origin: Rose of Alabamy? / Rose of Alabama From: GUEST Not an interracial love balkad, something out of the question in 1846. The lyrics are like the original Yellow Rose song. Both are relics of blackface minstrelsy in which a "darky" expresses his love for a lighter skinned maiden of his own race. Unsingable now unless you are into reviving blackface or Confederate reenactment. |
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12 Oct 17 - 05:38 PM (#3881877) Subject: RE: Origin: Rose of Alabamy? / Rose of Alabama From: leeneia There's nothing in the song that says she's lighter-skinned. She's called "brown Rosie," and that's all. If you like the song, change the offending words and snide spellings and sing it. Too much music is being taken away from us all the time. |
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12 Oct 17 - 06:46 PM (#3881889) Subject: RE: Origin: Rose of Alabamy? / Rose of Alabama From: Lighter She's a "sweet tobacco posey," because she's the color of a tobacco leaf. |
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14 Oct 17 - 02:25 PM (#3882263) Subject: RE: Origin: Rose of Alabamy? / Rose of Alabama From: leeneia No. Sweet tobacco is a fragrant garden flower. |
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14 Oct 17 - 08:21 PM (#3882307) Subject: RE: Origin: Rose of Alabamy? / Rose of Alabama From: Lighter It all depends on whether he means a posy of "sweet tobacco" or a sweet "posy of tobacco." Since this is a humorous minstrel song, my money is on the latter. |
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21 Apr 18 - 12:55 AM (#3918859) Subject: RE: Origin: Rose of Alabamy? / Rose of Alabama From: GUEST Yellow Rose of Texas is not originally a minstrel song. It dates back to the Texas War of Independence. The original words were, “She’s the sweetest rose of color this darkey ever knew . . .” There are many legends about the story behind the words... |
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21 Apr 18 - 09:15 AM (#3918943) Subject: RE: Origin: Rose of Alabamy? / Rose of Alabama From: Lighter "Legends" is right, most of them recent. There is no evidence, only repeated speculative claims, that "The Yellow Rose of Texas" dates to 1836 or has anything to do with the Texas War of Independence. Its first appearance in print was anonymously in the minstrel collection, "Christy's Plantation Melodies" (Phila.: Fisher & Brother, 1851), p.52 (without music). (Wikipedia incorrectly credits the slightly later 2nd edition as the earliest source.) The first printing of the tune, arranged for the piano by "J.K.," was apparently in 1858. GUEST is correct about the words. In fact, despite the familiar title, the opening line of the 1851 text is, "There's a yellow girl in Texas." Mitch Miller and the Gang made the song a pop hit in 1955, making sure there were no racial references. |