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27 Nov 07 - 04:30 PM (#2203388) Subject: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: greg stephens On a recent thread on the future of folk clubs, the conversation turned to the many outlets available nowadays for folk music, not all of them part of the folk scene in any sense.The thread diverted after a while, so I though I would generate a little discussion about this in its own thread. There are many active musicians on this forum, amateur and pro and points in between. I'd just like to ask people to have a litle poke about in their diaries, wallcharts, calendars etc, and come up with a list of places you've played recently. And, for that matter, places you've listened to folk music, if you don't play. I've done the last 25 gigs I've played with the Boat Band; I could have added a few social sessions interleaved with those, but I don't kep a record of those. The clssification I leave up to you, I made it up as I went along: a folk club in a pub I've called "folk club", for example, but a pub gig payed by the landlord I've called "pub". A dance at a wedding I've put under "private function", but a dance for the public I've called a dance.A dance in a village hall I've called a dance, but a concert in a village hall I've described as a concert. It doesn't matter if the classifications overlap, or don't make total sense. It will give the general idea: what I am looking for is where can folk music be found at the moment. And a geographical location would help. My 25 were all in the UK. 4 pubs 4 village halls(concerts) 4 Private functions(birthdays/weddings) 3 Community events 3 Folk festivals 2 Other festivals 2 dances 2 Unclassifiable arts events 1 Folk club The point of the initial discussion, by the by, was the importance and the future of the folk club. I was pointing out that in terms of my own life, folk clubs were a tiny percentage of the folk activites I was aware of. I look forward to hearing about other people's experiences recently. |
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27 Nov 07 - 07:09 PM (#2203529) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Mr Happy Royal Oak, Hoole, Chester - Every Wednesday The Carlton, Handbridge, Chester - Each 2nd Fri of month The Boars Head, Middlewich - 2nd Sat of month West Cheshire Sailing Club, New Brighton - 1st Fri of month Y Glan y Rafon, Holywell, Flintshire - 1st Fri of month All above are sinarounds. |
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27 Nov 07 - 08:35 PM (#2203588) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Charley Noble Not sure what you mean by "recently." Last week? Last month? Last year? Last eon? Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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28 Nov 07 - 03:02 AM (#2203708) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Rasener >>All above are sinarounds<< No wonder you are happy, Mr Happy. Do you play whilst you are sinning LOL. So to classify what Greg is asking for Mr Happy (I don't think he is asking you to reveal the actual venues, just clasify the type of location) Yours would appear to be on a monthly basis 6 times in a pub 1 time in a Village Hall or similar place and once at "Y Glan y Rafon" whatever that might be. I'll get me coat and get off to the sinners arms :-) |
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28 Nov 07 - 03:11 AM (#2203710) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: greg stephens Interpret your own "recently". I picked thew last twenty five gigs. Could be anywhere you've been in the last six months, the last ten times you've played a gig, whatever. Just enough to get an overall picture of what kind of places and events that folk music can be found at. |
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28 Nov 07 - 06:45 AM (#2203763) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Leadfingers Over the last three months , apart from regular local Folk Clubs , I seem to have done A number of Private Functions and Corporate events in the following venues :- 2 X Schools , 2 X Sports Clubs , 4 X Hotels , 2 X Pubs , 2 x Village halls , 1 X Casino , 1 X small Stately Home and 1 X University !! |
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28 Nov 07 - 06:46 AM (#2203765) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Leadfingers Ooops ! Forgot the Freshers Ball at the Royal College of Music ! |
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28 Nov 07 - 09:48 AM (#2203848) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Lowden Jameswright 4 Folk Festivals: Whitby Staithes Gainsborough Sheffield 9 Folk Clubs/Pubs (Sheffield): Wortley Folk (Black Bull, Ecclesfield) Rivelin Hotel (Stannington) Royal Folk - Royal Inn (Dungworth) Castle Inn (Bradway) Booit Straps (Commercial Inn Chapletown) The Moon University Arms Hollybush Inn (Stannington) Three Merry Lads |
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28 Nov 07 - 09:58 AM (#2203852) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Big Al Whittle Since I got ill I don't do proper gigs any more - just floorspots. |
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28 Nov 07 - 10:07 AM (#2203858) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: johnadams This year 1 Folk Day dance 1 World Music Festival 3 Folk Festivals 2 regular ceilidhs 8 Folk Club residencies 75+ sessions Quiet year really! :-) |
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28 Nov 07 - 10:24 AM (#2203875) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Mr Happy Mr Villan, Thanks for your concern as to clarification of the survey q's. I actually had taken the opportunity to 'plug'/ publicise some events I regularly attend. If stats needed, they work out as: 4 pubs 1 private members club |
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28 Nov 07 - 10:38 AM (#2203883) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Mitch the Bass This year - 7 Private Dances 8 Public Dances 2 Formal Scottish Dances 2 Major Morris Events 5 Festivals, over 30 workshops and dances 6 Playing with an informal band at local ceilidh club 6 Floor spots at local folk club 1 Arts Festival showcase 1 Regular weekly music session 1 Regular monthly music session 1 Teaching at a musicians day Mitch in Derby |
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28 Nov 07 - 11:28 AM (#2203918) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Rasener >>I actually had taken the opportunity to 'plug'/ publicise some events I regularly attend. << LOL I guessed that :-) |
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28 Nov 07 - 11:28 AM (#2203919) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: IanC Last 25 would be 12 pub sessions 2 pub "tours" (5 pubs each) 4 concerts (village hall, church, pub back room, British Legion hall) 1 theatre production ("musical director") 2 Folk Club "singarounds" (not a formal folk club) 2 garden parties 1 birthday party (village hall) 1 busking outside the village butchers :-) |
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28 Nov 07 - 11:52 AM (#2203939) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: GUEST,guest fidjit, in Norway Since the summer. end of August Private party, Stockholm, Sweden x1 Local festivals x4 Local dancers practice nights x6 Concert house Dancers performance x1 Local pub x2 Dubliner pub session Oslo, Norway x4 Melodeons at Witney, session x2 Half moon session, Bishop's Stortford x1 Private party. Bishop's Stortford x1 Culture cafe x1 Library presentation x1 Chas |
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28 Nov 07 - 12:18 PM (#2203958) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: GUEST,leeneia 'what I am looking for is where can folk music be found at the moment.' With that in mind, my responses are played at home with friends - monthly early and Celtic session played at Elderhostel early music workshop in California, 1000 miles away played in church - tunes from the shape-note tradition attended Irish band Chulrua. Missouri valley folklife society concert. Kansas City attended Alisdair Fraser and Natalie [forget last name] in Lawrence Kansas a couple months ago may go to a folk duo tomorrow in the 'parlor' at the Mountain Music Shoppe in suburban Johnson County, Kansas So, a lot of places, but none of them a pub! I guess my monthly group counts as a club, but I don't think that's what you mean by a 'folkclub.' |
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28 Nov 07 - 12:20 PM (#2203961) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Darowyn Rock Festival Pub (Same one three times) Another Pub (same town) Folk Festival (local) Wine bar/Bistro Recording Studio (too often to count.) School Hall (tomorrow actually) Cheers Dave |
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28 Nov 07 - 03:21 PM (#2204110) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: GUEST,Jonny Sunshine so far this year, 6 festivals (in venues including marquees, concert halls, and a bookshop) 6 arts centres 5 pub / cafes 3 ceilidh/ dance gigs in village halls and a school 4 concerts in music venue/ village hall 4 folk clubs 2 house concerts in private homes. plus sessions, rehearsals at home, work in studio, teaching. |
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28 Nov 07 - 10:23 PM (#2204392) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Charley Noble I sing in my van at least once a week Prtactice with my band one a week Participate in a Shanty/Forebitter sing at a tavern once a month Participate an open-mic once a month Coordinated a workshop and performed at a concert in Australia Had a featured spot at a folk club in Australia Had a featured spot aboard the tall-ship James Craig in Australia Performed as part of a 6-person band at 3 festivals, 4 special events and a pub or two Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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28 Nov 07 - 11:13 PM (#2204412) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: GUEST,Texas Guest Well, let's see...since September I have played the following: 3 Celtic festivals 1 (specifically)Scottish festival 1 3-day Irish music retreat 0 coffeehouses 0 house concerts 0 pubs 4 AFM downtown street gigs 3 restaurant gigs 60 retirement community gigs... ...earn my keep from it, I do; and 2008 is looking pretty good. Cheers. |
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29 Nov 07 - 03:39 AM (#2204469) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Fossil At Finn's (the new version of the Paekakariki pub). (Probably only New Zealanders will know about this, but it's an interesting story). Incidentally, in the unlikely event of any Kiwis reading this, the new pub does an open-mic session every other Wednesday and would love to get some talent in! Pukurua Bay folk club ....sung in Church choir every Sunday .... rehearsing "Messiah" by G.F. Handel for 09/12/07 performance. (Last two may not count as "folk music", but why not? Where else do lots of people who wouldn't know a folk-song if it bit them on the ankle - sing two-hundred year old words and tunes on a regular basis? And what else is that, but folk music?) |
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30 Nov 07 - 01:04 AM (#2205289) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: iancarterb Well, if we go 25, it's a neighborhood (James Bay) coffee house Friday night folk clubby regular session in Victoria, BC, and then morning and evening commutes on the Bainbridge Island-Seattle ferry back 12 work days in August. That would come to 24 plus 1! |
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30 Nov 07 - 05:38 PM (#2205813) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: greg stephens This is all great stuff, and good evidence for the great range of outlets there are. More please. Keep counting in your diaries. |
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30 Nov 07 - 06:09 PM (#2205840) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: coldjam 1-library 2 specifically acoustic music concert venues 3 festival 2 restaurant 2 church 1 open mic 1 Cafe 1 Church coffee house concert series event 5 actual coffeehouse 2 private "corporate" events 3 Music in the park 1 Senior Center special event 2 Farmers Market 3 Pub 1 50+ Club 2 Nursing home 1 RV rally The coffee houses seem to be the least satisfying. Low turn out pathetic compensation for the most part.There are exceptions of course. |
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30 Nov 07 - 06:16 PM (#2205852) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Geordie-Peorgie 2 Festivals 7 Pubs 4 Medieval Banquets 3 HMS Warrior 2 Old Folks Homes 3 Folk Clubs 6 Song/Tune sessions |
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01 Dec 07 - 08:20 AM (#2206180) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Bobert Ski Lodge 2 Outfitters 2 Camp grounds 2 Farm Market 6 Festivals 6 Private Parties 10 to 12 Wineries 1 High School 1 Beer Joints 3 B~ |
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01 Dec 07 - 01:11 PM (#2206349) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: greg stephens It would be good to know what country you are replying from. |
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01 Dec 07 - 09:26 PM (#2206577) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: jimmyt I played a wake last week. Walked in the blues bar where folks were celebrating as requested of a friend wqho had died last week of a massive heart attack (age 44) Best collection of musicians I have ever played with ( in the blues idiom) Felt like I was blessed to get to share a stage with them. Got to play my brand new bass, ( a blonde UB Hawkes SUperswing ala the old Kay Swingmaster of the 50s and 60s. |
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02 Dec 07 - 04:46 AM (#2206665) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: treewind Totals for this year: 19 folk clubs (1 in in a theatre, 7 in club, community or village hall type venues, that leaves 11 in pubs) 1 "folk night" (I woudn't call it a club) at a village community centre 1 retirement community 1 x 1-day folk event (workshops,concert, ceilidh) 3 theatres (CHARM show with Craig; Morgan; Robson not including festival performances) 7 festivals of assorted sizes (workshops, concerts, ceilidhs, sessions) 29 ceilidhs, including 2 public, the rest wedding, birthday parties etc. in a variety of venues ranging from Oxford and Cambridge colleges to working barns. Over 60 sessions... Anahata |
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02 Dec 07 - 07:44 AM (#2206709) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Banjiman Me & the talented one either together or individually, UK (except the one noted) in 2007: Paid/ billed stuff 6 gigs in pubs 4 Folk Clubs 1 Acoustic Club 2 Village Halls 5 Festivals/ Folk Days 1 garden Party (for charity) 2 Sheltered accom/ old folks 1 Restaurant/Bar in Sweden Informal stuff/ floor spots that I can remember (probably more!): 16 sessions/ floor spots (Gainsborough, Foggy Furze(2), Globe-Guisborough, Swaledale (2), Pot House, Redditch, Bacca Pipes, Brit-Darlington, Black Swan-York (2), Thirsk, Grove-Leeds, Uisge Beatha-Glasgow(2), Dog & Bone-Lincoln) + 3 festivals Plus at least once a fortnight singaround at Burneston Folk Club (approx 25). 3 Songwriting comps 1 Hiring Fair 2 Private Houses (Front Room Folk) Punters at a couple of gigs + recorded and released an album (well the talented on) and managed a full time job (well me). Next year looks even busier! Paul |
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02 Dec 07 - 01:34 PM (#2206923) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: HipflaskAndy Types of venue played in 07: York Castle Museum Winebar Church Hall A boat - 'GRAND TURK' in Whitby Harbour Village Hall Pubs - open access room Folk Clubs (pub, but seperate room for the purpose) Festivals x7 – multiple appearances at various types of venue at each fest (not included as separate entries) Church Radio Station studio 'live' broadcast Art College Converted cinema Just for fun: Local folk club - Wed every week in 07(almost without fail) Various other folk clubs, just for a support/singaround/fun x15 or more |
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03 Dec 07 - 09:55 AM (#2207501) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Grab Since I started my desk job (that'd be the desk with sliders and control knobs) earlier this year, there have been: 5 pub gigs 3 church halls 2 university halls 1 community centre 1 hotel function All either paid or for charities, although the pay doesn't even approach minimum-wage when you consider the time spent - I'm averaging somewhere between £3 and £5 an hour. Still, it lets me legitimately claim acquisition of PA gear and guitars as a business expense, which is very useful tax-wise. :-) Graham. |
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04 Dec 07 - 07:13 AM (#2208163) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Mo the caller Starting at Whitby 2 festivals where I've played in sessions, heard concerts and danced. 3 or 4 pub sessions a month where I've joined in with a few wrong notes. Danced to live music at 1 Irish set dance festival 1 ceilidh 1 private party 3 dances organised by EFDDS clubs Called for dances to live music at 2 private parties 1 school fundraiser 1 church harvest dance |
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04 Dec 07 - 07:22 AM (#2208168) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Mo the caller What did I do? That posted before I'd finished. 1 concert (Time Bandits, worth hearing) Twice a week dancing (and sometimes caling) to recorded music at EFDSS clubs. And before you all jump on me, these clubs also organise public dances with live music, train the dancers who dance at them, buy the CDs and pay our PLA fees. Once a month band workshop (organised by the Lancashire EFDDS group) where we practise playing dance tunes, and twice a year some of them (more confident than me) play for dance clubs. |
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04 Dec 07 - 11:27 AM (#2208365) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Fidjit Greg. I think they all know that I live in Sweden by now. Just that last week I was on a visit to Norway (just up the road -250km) So was a visitor to the mudcat. Would be nice to know the others county refference though. Wot Ya Fink ? Chas |
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04 Dec 07 - 04:04 PM (#2208549) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: GUEST,sinky 4 pubs,3 clubs,1 hotel |
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05 Dec 07 - 02:30 PM (#2209289) Subject: RE: Where have you played recently?(Survey) From: Genie Since May, I've played folk music in the following settings: Northwest Folklife Festival (Band Scrambles, Jams, and Sing-Alongs) Girl Scout Meeting (sing-along)* Coffee House Jam Session (4) Balboa Park Jam Session (2 or 3) Song Circles and Jam Sessions in private homes (15 to 20) Church Service ( about 7 times in choir* and once as soloist) My dad's memorial service (celebration of his life) - composed and sang a song Retirement, Assisted Living, or Nursing/Convalescent/Rehab Residences (about 150)* The last category is the only one I've been paid for. That one pays the bills so I can afford to do the unpaid gigs and jams. *mixed-genre music, some of it being "folk" |