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05 Dec 07 - 08:13 AM (#2208991) Subject: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: Rasener Reports in Spain are claiming that Chelsea already have an agreement in place with Barcelona ace Ronaldinho. It is claimed by leading Spanish daily Marca that The Blues have finalised a deal with the 27-year-old - whose time in Catalunya looks to be drawing to a close. The one-time Manchester United target has been far from at his best this term and has even been dropped to the bench by coach Frank Rijkaard. The reports state that Ronaldinho will be paid 10million euros (£7.1million) a-year at Stamford Bridge, although the two clubs have not yet agreed a deal. I don't know about anybody else, but considering the state of the economy in England, such huge payments like this are disgraceful. I am a huge foorball fan, but enough is enough. I don't care who it is. When oh when are we going to put a curb on such outragious amounts of money being paid to footballers. Will the British taxman ever see any of that money? I wonder. I am beginning to agree with a policy coming in that only allows a couple of foreign players per club and the rest should be British. Can we please keep this thread as a discussion and not get insults or flaming on a personal level. |
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05 Dec 07 - 08:20 AM (#2208996) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: Leadfingers And to pay THAT sort of money , what is the admission charge for a bloke and two kids to go to a match ?? |
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05 Dec 07 - 08:28 AM (#2209003) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: GUEST,clockwatcher What on earth has the economy got to do with it. Rightly or wrongly (and let's not start on that), market forces will rule. If £7m can be afforded, it will be found. |
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05 Dec 07 - 08:32 AM (#2209008) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: The PA I know nothing about football but what I do know is the massive amounts of money people here in our office pay for replica strips for their kids to wear at matches, and as mentioned the ticket prices for games. Even if this person was paid a fraction of this amount it, in my humble opinion, would still be quite obscene. I do not know the area where this club is but I would imagine there are one or two more deserving case in the locality. If a football club has the resources to offer these salaries, then I think it should be forced to plough some of it into the deserving causes in the surrounding area, such as school sports facilities, open spaces for ordinary people to enjoy etc. or offer half price game tickets for the local people. |
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05 Dec 07 - 09:20 AM (#2209051) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: ard mhacha Look around you Villan, to-days local kids are not playing football, they are to be found in gangs doped out of their minds or drunk with cheap wine. If what you wish for comes about, the Premier League won`t be worth watching. Tony Adams castigated Arsne Wenger when he was appointed Arsenal manager, not too long after the Frenchman took charge of Arsenal, Adams stated that Wenger had saved not only his career but his life, he overcame his addiction to alcoholism and finished his Arsenal career with honour. When the foreign players filtered into the various clubs they were amazed at the amount of drink consumed by the local players, continental managers and players have enhanced the Premier League, it is to their credit that the football is as good as any League in Europe. |
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05 Dec 07 - 10:09 AM (#2209096) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: GUEST,Neil D You guys want Beckham back. He's a Brit and he's making twice that. Sports fans have been bitching and moaning about what athletes made at least since Babe Ruth signed for $100,000 during the Great Depression. (A reporter pointed out to him that he was now making more than the President of the United States and he said "Well, I had a better year.") The salary of pro athletes is often compared to that of firemen, policemen, teachers, etc. as unjust. What people fail to account for is that in a capitalist system, supply and demand set the cost. In this case supply is the key word. There is just as much demand for firemen, teachers etc. as for pro athletes but a much bigger supply pool. The percentage of the total population that can hit a major league curve ball 3 out of ten times is actually quite low. (Or bend a soccer ball around a defense wall and keeper.) Also consider the income being generated by the players for the team. Should the owner get the lion's share when the players do all the work and bring in the fans and thus the money. If you don't like it boycott the matches. If the money doesn't come in the salaries will drop. |
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05 Dec 07 - 10:11 AM (#2209098) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: GUEST,Neil D By the way, is he the one with the weird teeth or is that Ronaldo. I never could keep that straight. |
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05 Dec 07 - 10:45 AM (#2209135) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: The PA Perhaps we should do what the German government does with their showjumping team. Basically if they win, the government stump up the dosh to enable them to compete. If not they have to meet their own expenses, ie., training, feed, farriers, vets, providing tack and equipment, travel costs etc. Wonder how some of these players would feel if they were paid by results? |
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05 Dec 07 - 11:25 AM (#2209166) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: Grab If this was funded by the government, you'd be right to complain. But it isn't. This is all funded by people who want involvement in football. Rich people (Russians or otherwise) dump vast sums into clubs. Individual people pay for tickets, replica kit or SkySports. Result: clubs get money. And as long as the money's there, clubs will spend it. If clubs can't get enough money to afford those kind of wages or transfer fees, they won't happen. But if people like you keep throwing money at them, either directly through club replica kit and tickets or indirectly through SkySports, then you're maintaining the system as it stands. Why do you think it would be otherwise? Graham. |
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05 Dec 07 - 02:35 PM (#2209298) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: GUEST,Tunesmith I can't be doing with football! It's a terribly flawed sport. So much about it is so negative. I'm amazed that anyone watches it. |
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06 Dec 07 - 04:49 AM (#2209702) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: GUEST,marketman Supply and demand, V, supply and demand. |
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06 Dec 07 - 05:30 AM (#2209715) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: Big Al Whittle Say what you like about foreign footballers, very few of them sing traditional folksongs. |
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06 Dec 07 - 06:19 AM (#2209732) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: ard mhacha Say what you like about foreign footballers, Carrick [Manchester Utd] 18 millons worth of dross. |
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06 Dec 07 - 11:14 AM (#2209759) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: Rasener Ard mhacha >>Look around you Villan, to-days local kids are not playing football, they are to be found in gangs doped out of their minds or drunk with cheap wine. << Don't know where you come from, but that is not typical. There are lots of youngsters out there playing football |
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06 Dec 07 - 03:22 PM (#2209942) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: Q (Frank Staplin) Fans want winners. Sports equipment makers want winners. Winners make money for enterprises from merchants to the tax man. Don't support professional sports. Of course most people, including your kids, will regard you as peculiar and untrustworthy. Worship of sports 'heros' seems to be built into human genes. We don't kill losers any more, but otherwise we haven't changed from the Greeks and Romans. |
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06 Dec 07 - 03:32 PM (#2209951) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: Big Al Whittle I would have to agree Villan. The most respected guy in our village (Notts ex mining village; asbos, hoodies, the school uniform is a Somerfield bag full of lager tins) is the guy who runs the kids football teams. If the cops want the kids to stop a particularly shitty piece of behaviour - they know they will do anything for him and his son, who runs the junior team. If anything, they're a bit too fanatical, and so are their parents They take it SO seriously. Coverage in the local papers of even junior games, is massively seriousness. Not actually sure that an interest in football is a guarantee of the continuation of civilsation as we know it. |
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06 Dec 07 - 05:00 PM (#2210011) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: ard mhacha Do you live in B`Ham Villian?, well thank goodness it has changed for the better,that dosen`t apply in other towns, the young people to-day are not participating in sport to the same extent as they did years ago. They want for nothing regards sports equipment, everything is laid on for them, and when they reach 16 or 17 they disappear from the their Clubs to join the booze and drugs brigade. Wenger paid 15 million for Walcott, yet he can go to the European mainland and fill his team with quality players for a fraction of what he would have to pay for a British player. I still maintain that the problem is the ferrule kids, [what an apt description, by that head constable], your young footballers are not as dedicated as the foreigners, look around your teams for proof. |
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06 Dec 07 - 07:13 PM (#2210115) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: Big Al Whittle well I do think probably in the English school system, it is spelled out in no uncertain terms that that there is no future in kicking a ball around. Sometimes with more than a dash of ruthlessness. Lots of kids get to fifteen and cherish ideas of being a pro footballer, and I think most sports teachers are familiar with the scenario of having to relieve kids of their illusions. kids growing up - its never easy. no doubt we do get it wrong, our parents did, and our kids will. |
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07 Dec 07 - 04:10 AM (#2210320) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: Rasener I was born in Birmingham and use Villan (Note:- not villian LOL) becuase of being a staunch Villa fan :-) No I live just above Lincoln in Lincolnshire. |
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07 Dec 07 - 04:26 AM (#2210328) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: ard mhacha Sorry Villan, it is good to know the peace and quiet of rural Lincolnshire is is a haven, in these times of urban unrest. |
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07 Dec 07 - 04:48 AM (#2210338) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: Rasener Well not always. Our Town has had a song written about it by the famous Bernie Taupin called "Saturday Nights Alright For Fighting" Its still true today I think, although I don't venture into the square at that time of night. "Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting" is a lively throwback to early rock & roll with a glam edge; the lyrics discuss a night out in town in which the narrator plans to "get about as oiled as a diesel train." Taupin has said that the song was meant to be an American rock & roll song, set in Britain, and was inspired by his raucous teenage days, in particular in the fights happening in his local pub, the Aston Arms in Market Rasen |
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07 Dec 07 - 01:07 PM (#2210669) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: Big Al Whittle Market Rasen - Gateway to Alford so good they named it once |
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07 Dec 07 - 01:42 PM (#2210705) Subject: RE: BS: Ronaldinho sickening £7 million salary From: Wesley S FYI - Over here in America when the new Dallas Cowboys stadium gets built the starting price for a single ticket will run $300.00 per game - IF you buy the whole season - eight games = $2,400.00 per person. OH - and to be allowed to buy season tickets you have to buy a LICENSE for $13,000. It's good for 10 years and it's non-refundable and non-transferable. If you don't buy tickets for one year your licence to buy is canceled. |