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13 Dec 07 - 04:10 PM (#2214756) Subject: Lyr Req: Liza Jane From: GUEST,Stew Would anyone have the lyrics for "Liza Jane" as opposed to 'Little Liza Jane' and/or 'Goodbye Liza Jane'? TIA Stew |
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13 Dec 07 - 04:23 PM (#2214763) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Liza Jane From: skarpi I have the Lyric " Liza Jane " but its country song with Vince Gill if you need it PM me :>) All the best Skarpi Iceland |
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13 Dec 07 - 04:23 PM (#2214764) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Liza Jane From: Geoff the Duck There's This One in the Digital Tradition. Is that what you want? Quack! GtD. |
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13 Dec 07 - 04:27 PM (#2214769) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Liza Jane From: Amos WHat's the difference between them, then? Pardon my ignorance. A |
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13 Dec 07 - 04:33 PM (#2214779) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Liza Jane From: GUEST,Jon I'd guess the other is Charlotte[and other places] Town is burning down... |
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13 Dec 07 - 04:42 PM (#2214789) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Liza Jane From: GUEST,Stew Thanks Geoff, those lyrics work well with the tune I know. Amos, 'Little Liza Jane' starts out; I got a gal in Baltimore Little Liza Jane, etc. and 'Goodbye Liza Jane' I only know as an instrumental. Thanks again Stew |
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13 Dec 07 - 06:57 PM (#2214882) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Liza Jane From: Bugsy As remembered from the Derek Brimstone version on the CD "All Those Songs" SCARLET TOWN Scarlet town is burning down Goodbye, good bye Scarlet town is burning down Goodbye Liza Jane Chorus Ain't you feeling sorry Goodbye goodbye Ain't you feeling sorry now Goodbye Liza Jane Liza jane had eyes of blue Goodbye, good bye stole my heart and my bes friends too Goodbye Liza Jane (Chorus) Now Liza jane is dead & gone Goodbye, good bye My love for her it still lives on Goodbye Liza jane (Chorus) Scarlet Town is burning down Goodbye, good bye Scarlet town is burning down Goodbye Liza Jane (Chorus) I hope this is the one you are looking for. Cheers bugsy |
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13 Dec 07 - 07:57 PM (#2214913) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Liza Jane From: Janie Not sure "Liza Jane" and "Goodbye Liza Jane" are the same tunes. Hopefully Q will be along with a comment on that. I think "Charlotte Town is Burning" and "Scarlet Town..." are versions (or visa versa) of "Goodbye Liza Jane." The following is a cut and paste from http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/GOO_GOW.htm . I know it's a lot to cut and paste, but it seemed there was enough info and references that it is worth it in the event the other site ever disappears. And maybe this should be posted to the "Goodbye Liza Jane" thread instead. If so, I hope a clone feels free to move it. Note the reference in the notes to "Liza Jane" and "My Little Donny." Also, the verse, 'going down to Caro" ("Going Down to Cairo") GOODBYE LIZA JANE [1]. AKA‑ "Liza Jane." Old‑Time, Bluegrass, Western Swing; Breakdown. USA. A Major (most versions): D Major (Silberberg). Standard tuning. AB (Silberberg): AABB (most versions). Two influential recordings were made of the tune in the 1920's which helped spread its popularity among early country musicians, remarks Charles Wolfe (1991). The first was by the east Tennessee string band The Hill Billies, who released it under the title "Mountaineers Love Song," and the second was by another band from the same area, the Tenneva Ramblers, as "Miss Liza, Poor Gal." Bob Wills (Texas), the father of western swing, said this was the first tune he learned (as "Goodbye, Miss Liza Jane") to fiddle. *** Swing Ma, swing Pa, goodbye, goodbye, Swing that gal from Arkansas, Goodbye Liza Jane. *** Chorus: Oh how I loved her, ain't that a shame, Oh how I loved her, Goodbye Liza Jane. *** Swing that gal and don't be late, goodbye, goodbye, Knock down Sal, big fat gate, Goodbye Liza Jane. *** Take a chaw of tobacco, spit on the wall, goodbye, goodbye, Swing that gal clear across the hall, Goodbye Liza Jane. *** Three wheels 're off and the axel's draggin', goodbye, goodbye, You can't ride the little red wagon, Goodbye Liza Jane. *** Other versions go: *** Charlotte Town is burning down, goodbye, goodbye. Burning down to the ground, goodbye, Liza Jane. *** Chorus: Oh, how I miss you, ain't that a shame, Oh, how I miss you, goodbye, Liza Jane. *** Alt. Chorus: Ain't y'mighty sorry? Goodbye, bye-bye Ain't y'mighty sorry? Goodbye, Liza Jane. *** Liza Jane had a dress of red, goodbye, goodbye, Queen of hearts, or so she said, goodbye, Liza Jane. *** Liza Jane countin' her toes You can smell her feet wherever she goes. *** I got a gal and a hound dog too, She don't bite, but the hound dog do. *** Liza Jane 'bout half grown, Jumps on a man like a dog on a bone *** Liza Jane, pretty as a rose, Bites her nails and picks her nose. *** Goin' down to Caro, goodbye, goodbye, Goin' down to Caro, goodbye Liza Jane. *** Well, I blacked my boots and I made 'em shine, goodbye, goodbye. I blacked my boots and I made 'em shine, goodbye Liza Jane *** A version of the tune and song, under the title "Rejected by Eliza Jane," was collected by the African-American collector Thomas Talley which he printed in his book Negro Folk Rhymes (1922, reprinted 1991 edited by Charles Wolfe). His lyrics go: *** W'en I went 'cross de cotton patch I give my ho'n a blow. I thought I heared pretty Lizie say: "Oh, yonder come my beau!" *** So: I axed pretty Lizie to marry me, An' what d'you reckon she said? She said she wouldn' marry me, If ev'ybody else was dead. *** An': As I went up de new cut road, An' she go down de land; Den I though I heared somebody say: "Good-bye, ole Liza Jane!" *** Well: Jes get 'long, Lizie, my true love. Git 'long, Miss Lizie Jane. Perhaps you'll sack "Ole Sour Bill" An' git choked on "Sugar Cain." *** Sources for notated versions: Bobby Hicks (Brody, Phillips): Plank Road String Band via Delaware Gap String Band (Kuntz). Brody (Fiddler's Fakebook), 1983; pg. 124. Kuntz (Ragged but Right), 1987; pg. 339‑340. Phillips (Fiddlecase Tunebook), 1989; pg. 21. Phillips (Traditional American Fiddle Tunes), vol. 1, 1994; pg. 100. Silberberg (Tunes I Learned at Tractor Tavern), 2002; pg. 54. County 772, Bobby Hicks‑ "Texas Crapshooter." King 787, Reno and Smiley‑ "Banjo Special." Mountain 301, Kyle Creed‑ "Blue Ridge Style Dance Time." Kicking Mule 205, Delaware Water Gap‑ "From the Rivers of Babylon to the Land of Jazz" (1979. Appears as "Liza Jane"). Kapp KS 3639, Bob Wills and Mel Tillis‑ "Mel Tillis and Bob Wills in Person." Victor 21141 (78 RPM), The Tenneva Ramblers (1927, as "Miss Liza, Poor Gal"). Vocalion 5115 (78 RPM), The Hill Billies (1926, as "Mountaineers Love Song"). X:1 T:Goodbye Liza Jane T:Liza Jane M:C| L:1/8 B:Kuntz – Ragged but Right Z:AK/Fiddler's Companion K:G (G|G)F G2 A2 AA|[GB]A [G2B2] [G2c2] [G2c2]|BA G4 G2|FEDC D2 DF| GFGB AGAc|BABd cBAc|BAGB AGFA|[G2B2] [G6B6] [GB]:| |:[Dd]|[D4d4] [e3e3]e|B2 (d4 d) (3D/E/F/|G2 [G2B2] [G3A3] [GA]| [G2B2] [G4B4] [GB] (3A/B/c/|d2d2 e3d|B2 d4 A2|BA G AGFA|1 GEDE G3:|2 GEDB, G,3|| GOODBYE LIZA JANE [2]. Old-Time, Breakdown and Song. USA, Georgia. A version of the famous folksong "Liza Jane." See "My Little Dony," a Mississippi collected version with a fine phrase the same as that on Fiddling John Carson's OKeh recording. OKeh 45049 (78 RPM), Fiddling John Carson (north Ga.). GOODBYE LIZA JANE [3]. Old-Time. The title given by Kyle Creed for his version of "Whose Black Baby Are You?" |
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13 Dec 07 - 08:02 PM (#2214918) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Liza Jane From: Janie From the same site, searching under "Liza Jane" a href="http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/LITT_LL.htm">http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/LITT_LL.htm They give three versions, one with lyrics, copied below: IZA JANE [3]. AKA and See "'Lasses Cane," "Poor Liza Jane." Old‑Time, Breakdown. USA; Oklahoma, Missouri. A Mixolydian (Brody, Phillips): G Major. AEae or Standard. ABB (Thede): AABB (Brody, Phillips). Sources for notated versions: Joe Wilsie (Cherokee County; Oklahoma) [Thede]: Carter Brothers and Son (Brody, Phillips). The "Liza Jane" family of tunes includes a number of related variants going by a variety of related titles, such as "Old Time Liza Jane," "Poor Liza Jane," "'Lasses Cane," "Goodbye Liza Jane," "Little Liza Jane [1]," and so on. In the repertoire of Uncle Jimmy Thompson (1848‑1931) {Texas, Tennessee}. Recorded in 1939 for the Library of Congress by Herbert Halpert from the playing of Newton County, Mississippi, fiddler Hardy Sharp (b. 1884). See also "My Little Dony" for another Mississippi collected version in this song/tune family. *** I'll go down the new cut road, And Liza down the lane; I'll throw my hat in the corner of the fence, And scare poor Liza Jane. (Thede) *** I'll go up on the mountain top And plant me a patch of cane, I'll make me a jug of molasses For to sweeten little Liza Jane. *** Hurry up, pretty little gal, Hurry up Liza Jane, Hurry up, poor little gal, She died on the train. *** I went to see my Liza Jane, She was standin' in the door, Her shoes and stockings in her hand And her feet all over the floor. *** The hardest work I ever did Was a‑brakin' on the train, The easiest work that I ever did Was a‑courtin' Liza Jane (Thomas & Leeder) *** Brody (Fiddler's Fakebook), 1983; pg. 172. Phillips (Traditional American Fiddle Tunes), vol. 1, 1994; pg. 144. Thede (The Fiddle Book), 1967; pg. 44‑45. Thomas & Leeder (The Singin' Gathering), 1939; pg. 22. County 520, Carter Brothers and Son (Monroe County, Mississippi) ‑ "Echoes of the Ozarks, Vol. 3". Folkways FA 2491, New Lost City Ramblers‑ "Gone to the Country." Flying Fish FF260, Alan Jabbour‑ "Sandy's Fancy." Okeh 45202 (78 RPM), Carter Brothers and Son. |
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13 Dec 07 - 08:05 PM (#2214922) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Liza Jane From: Janie Oops. Let's do that link again. http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/LITT_LL.htm |
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13 Dec 07 - 08:30 PM (#2214937) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Liza Jane From: Q (Frank Staplin) Bugsy, the poster said he didn't want a Goodbye song- But I don't blame you, we are all left guessing at what he wants. With a request of that kind, I feel like "Liza up the 'simmom tree" (in DT) with a migraine. There is Oh, Eliza, Good bye Liza, Miss Liza, Little Liza, Eliza (Liza) Jane, just plain Liza, poor Liza, old Liza, etc., and some combine with Liza Jane in one verse and other of her names in the chorus or another verse. Asking by a title without giving some information about the song you seek doesn't cut is when the folk have diced and sliced and given stem cell transplants to Liza for 150 years. See thread 2777 and the others here at Mudcat; it may help you and, incidentally, the rest of us who try to help. Liza Jane There is a lot of information here at Mudcat if you look for it. Also look at Bluegrass Messengers: bluegrass The Messengers have 19 versions of Goodbye, 8 L'il Lizas, 6 Liza Janes, and maybe others. Go to Fiddle and Instrumental Tunes and start grazing. |
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14 Dec 07 - 10:34 AM (#2215249) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Liza Jane From: GUEST,Stew Considering how diverse the Little Liza theme is, I would agree with you Q that my post was a bit vague. Geoff's post pretty well nailed down lyrics that would fit the version I am looking for. Being an instrumentalist rather than a vocalist I am much more familiar with melodys than I am with lyrics. Thanks all for your input. Stew |