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16 Jan 08 - 04:11 AM (#2237519) Subject: BS: Ane Salmont Fissche From: GUEST,PMB Glasgow 29 May 1576. Hart, wrang. Johne Kar is fund in the wrang and amarciament of court for turbelans done be him to Katerane Hart in streking of hir upone the mouthe with ane salmont fissche, and dwme gewin thairupone. |
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16 Jan 08 - 04:17 AM (#2237522) Subject: RE: BS: Ane Salmont Fissche From: GUEST,LTS pretending to work Salmon as an assault weapon.... Hmmm... there's an idea! LTS |
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16 Jan 08 - 06:54 AM (#2237569) Subject: RE: BS: Ane Salmont Fissche From: Michael Or is it just a cod mesage? Mike |
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16 Jan 08 - 07:00 AM (#2237571) Subject: RE: BS: Ane Salmont Fissche From: Megan L personally I think this is a bit of a red herring |
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16 Jan 08 - 07:19 AM (#2237582) Subject: RE: BS: Ane Salmont Fissche From: GUEST,LTS pretending to work Is this the plaice for this wrasse sort of comment? When a fish hits your face, and it's not a bit of plaice, It's a moray.... I'll stop carping on now. I'll get me pike. LTS |
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16 Jan 08 - 07:21 AM (#2237583) Subject: RE: BS: Ane Salmont Fissche From: John O'L "...and dwme gewin thairupone"...? Something's fishy here... |
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16 Jan 08 - 09:11 AM (#2237637) Subject: RE: BS: Ane Salmont Fissche From: GUEST,PMB "...and dwme gewin thairupone" -> "and judgement given thereupon" |
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16 Jan 08 - 09:13 AM (#2237639) Subject: RE: BS: Ane Salmont Fissche From: Sorcha Paul, I think you have too much time on your hands! LOL Should have just told her to byte her thumb and do a Finn. She'd have all the answers then! (42 of course) |
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16 Jan 08 - 09:32 AM (#2237648) Subject: RE: BS: Ane Salmont Fissche From: Dave Hanson A few sandwiches short of a picnic if ask me. eric |
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16 Jan 08 - 10:48 AM (#2237683) Subject: RE: BS: Ane Salmont Fissche From: Bee I'm dying to know why he smacked her with a salmon - gotta be a good story there. |
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16 Jan 08 - 10:55 AM (#2237691) Subject: RE: BS: Ane Salmont Fissche From: wysiwyg A good story? Or the same old story-- a man hitting a woman, and we want to know why she "deserved" it? ~S~ |
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16 Jan 08 - 11:19 AM (#2237718) Subject: RE: BS: Ane Salmont Fissche From: Liz the Squeak I don't think it's so much as why he hit the woman, heaven knows there's usually only one reason, but more; why with a salmon? It's not unknown though... in J Meade Faulkener's "Moonfleet", Maskew the magistrate struck the Reverend Mr Glennie upon the cheek with a fish which the boys of Rev Glennie's school later cooked on the stove and ate. LTS |
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16 Jan 08 - 11:31 AM (#2237728) Subject: RE: BS: Ane Salmont Fissche From: GUEST,PMB Sadly they seldom give any background. I suspect it was all a bit like the fights in Asterix. Glasgow must have been a lively place in the 16th century. Andersone, Steyne, wrangis. Marione Jamesone, Jonet Maxuell, Marione Maxuell and Jonet Maxuell, hir dochteris, ar fund in the wrang and amerchiament of court for trublance done be thame to Marione Stene, spous to James Andersone, carter, in stryking of hir, scartyng of hir and dynging hir to the erd, vpone the last daye of Marche; and the said Marione is fund in the wrang, for stryking of Jonet Maxuell, yonger; and als the said James Andersone is fund in the wrang for stryking of Jonet Maxuell, spous to George Wilsoun; and siclik, the said George is fund in the wrang for invadyng of the said James with ane drawin quhyngar, and dwme gevin thairupone. Craig, wrang. The quhilk daye, Thomas Craig, cordiner, is fund in the wrang for non-comperance; and als for the transportyng of the gallows at his awin hand furtht of the auld accustomat place sa neir hand the towne; and is ordanit to repone the samyn agane. I think perhaps the "gallows" was either a crane or a weighing machine. This and much more at British History Online. generally, in these extracts, the "mercat" is the market, rather than a photogenic social beastie. |
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16 Jan 08 - 12:43 PM (#2237775) Subject: RE: BS: Ane Salmont Fissche From: Liz the Squeak No... the gallows were exactly what they sound like. It seems as if he didn't want them where they were (bad for business maybe? They didn't take the bodies away as they did later, but left them as a grisly warning), and 'at his own hand' i.e., on his own account, with no permission, took them from the old accustomed place so near and handy for the town, and put them elsewhere. It looks like he was ordered to put them back again. LTS |
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16 Jan 08 - 01:04 PM (#2237788) Subject: RE: BS: Ane Salmont Fissche From: Rapparee "...Oh I have brought you gold And I have paid your fee But better still someone has moved The lonely gallows tree." |
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16 Jan 08 - 06:49 PM (#2238042) Subject: RE: BS: Ane Salmont Fissche From: John O'L dwme = doom. I see. Still seems fishy for mine. |
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16 Jan 08 - 06:52 PM (#2238045) Subject: RE: BS: Ane Salmont Fissche From: Rapparee I'd think that a cod or an eel would have been a better weapon, but it's not my plaice to decide. Besides, I wouldn't be born for a few hundred more years. |