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18 Jan 08 - 07:04 PM (#2239645) Subject: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: GUEST,Sugwash Just heard that Martin Carthy has had to cancel his booking at Folk on the Moor, near Plymouth, due to Norma being taken seriously unwell (sic). I'm sure that we all wish Norma a speedy recovery from whatever ails her. |
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19 Jan 08 - 02:42 AM (#2239832) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: Big Al Whittle Very bad news Best wishes Norma |
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19 Jan 08 - 04:19 AM (#2239857) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: GUEST,Ed Hope it's nothing too serious. Get well Norma |
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19 Jan 08 - 04:29 AM (#2239860) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: Sugwash Forgot to mention that the gig is this Sunday, 20th January. A singers night will take place instead. |
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19 Jan 08 - 04:36 AM (#2239863) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: r.padgett O dear Get well soon Norma Ray |
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19 Jan 08 - 10:05 AM (#2239975) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: GUEST,martin ellison The word from Norma's nephew, Olly, is that she has the flu and although poorly, no panic. Martin |
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19 Jan 08 - 11:01 AM (#2240008) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: GUEST,David at Mystic Seaport USA Very best wishes to Norma. Please get well soon. Hello to Martin. |
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19 Jan 08 - 12:30 PM (#2240045) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: Big Al Whittle Thread drift, but someone gave me the acoustic masters dvd of Martin Carthy for my birthday today. What a brilliant musician. Its a fabulous dvd - get it! |
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19 Jan 08 - 01:27 PM (#2240077) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: Richard Bridge But, WLD, he isn't an oik and sings in a funny voice (even if he is IMHO the best indivudual folk musician of the last 20 years) |
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19 Jan 08 - 01:47 PM (#2240089) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: Big Al Whittle don't take me too literally.... |
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21 Jan 08 - 02:45 AM (#2241057) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: pavane Only the last 20 years? What about the 1960's, when he was copied by Dylan and Paul Simon, to name just two? His 1964 album was surely a masterpiece. |
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21 Jan 08 - 03:05 AM (#2241063) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: Richard Bridge There are other contenders from the revival. From that period it is not so clear-cut: - Peter Bellamy, Dave Swarbrick, Kirkpatrick, Nic Jones, Vin Garbutt, Maddy Prior, Jean Redpath, June Tabor, etc... |
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21 Jan 08 - 03:38 AM (#2241073) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: TheSnail ...and let's not forget Norma Waterson. |
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21 Jan 08 - 03:41 AM (#2241076) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: pavane Agreed, good competition there. And the only one from that list I haven't seen live is Jean Redpath. |
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21 Jan 08 - 03:49 AM (#2241078) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: Bryn Pugh Best wishes and kind regards for a speedy recovery, Norma. Regards to Martin. Erica and Bryn Pugh |
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21 Jan 08 - 03:57 AM (#2241082) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: theleveller This is terrible news. Norma is a wonderful lady - she and the other Watersons (and John) gave me lots of helpful advice when I was starting out in folk music over 40 years ago and Sunday nights at The Blue Bell in Hull were a joy. I last saw her and Martin at Shepley when we had a nice conversation in the loo queue. Best wishes, Norma and I hope you make a swift recovery. |
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21 Jan 08 - 04:20 AM (#2241092) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: The Borchester Echo Good wishes to Norma though I'll be keeping very well clear as I've no wish to catch it. Of course the Watersons (both before and after the arrival of Carthy) were tremendously important in the revival but just to list contemporaries who influenced you way back then is pointless. Everyone Richard Bridge named is worthy of acclaim (though Jean Ritchie surely counts as traditional, as would Hedy West and probably Peggy Seeger too). It also depends on your own progress around the countryside. If I cite The High Level Ranters, Lou Killen, Bob Davenport & The Rakes, Swarb & Martin, The Young Tradition, JKP, Pete Coe, Bob Pegg and The Clash you could trace my itinerary up to the mid 70s. If you wanted to. |
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21 Jan 08 - 04:40 AM (#2241096) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: Big Al Whittle and lets not forget Marty Wilde and The Vernons Girls..... |
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21 Jan 08 - 04:46 AM (#2241099) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: The Borchester Echo From which we can gather that WLD had a diverse upbringing. The Vernons Girls were clearly traditional in the Liverpool sense of the word. As for Marty Wilde, it depends on your interpretation of Larry Parnes and his stables. |
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21 Jan 08 - 05:54 AM (#2241130) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: Rasener I saw Marty Wilde live, recently and he was very good. He sang all his traditional songs. |
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21 Jan 08 - 05:54 AM (#2241131) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: Richard Bridge Good God we'll have Mike Sarne cited as a folk revivalist next! The point I was making, without I hope detracting from the wonder of Norma's singing (there is a pretty-pretty version on the Imagined village of a broken token song I first heard from a Norma Waterson recording, and the difference is startling) was that for 20 years there has not been a contender for Martin Carthy's throne as best individual folk musician, whereas during the revival there were others of comparable status (and I forgot Alistair Anderson and Alex Atterson too). It is sad to see Norma Waterson's health so fragile. |
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21 Jan 08 - 08:04 AM (#2241181) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: mattkeen Get well soon -(with a reminder: she has only got the flu) |
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21 Jan 08 - 08:28 AM (#2241200) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: Richard Bridge I bet it's flu rather than a bad cold. Definitions again.... |
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21 Jan 08 - 12:12 PM (#2241360) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: stallion only the bloody flu, it laid me low for five weeks and my voice still hasn't recovered six weeks on form getting better! It was nasty and I thought I was dying I felt so rotten. get well soon Norma |
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21 Jan 08 - 01:08 PM (#2241400) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: Richard Bridge Genuine flu is dangerous. |
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21 Jan 08 - 02:17 PM (#2241457) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: Rasener Especially if it is Man Flu :-) |
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21 Jan 08 - 02:32 PM (#2241464) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: Richard Bridge Not. |
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21 Jan 08 - 02:53 PM (#2241485) Subject: RE: Martin Carthy gig cancelled From: Big Al Whittle Ingenuine flu... I've had it once or twice, and I wouldn't recommend it matey.... I've been around a bit (roughed it in a few places), and as a man of the world I can assure you - life has little worse to offer than an insincere streptococus. In fact theres a saying:- Give me a germ that's straight and true! Straight of back and eyes of blue! Then what care I, of streaming snot bad catarrh, and fever hot! An honest germ, with coughs of phelegm And snotty sneezes is a gem! |