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How to pronounce 'plaidie'

05 Feb 08 - 07:59 PM (#2254598)
Subject: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: michaelr

Is it play-dee, pladdie, pleh-dee or what?

TIA,
Michael


05 Feb 08 - 08:06 PM (#2254604)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Jack Campin

Play-dee.

Whereas "plaid" is "plad".


05 Feb 08 - 08:38 PM (#2254629)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: michaelr

Right, thanks Jack!


05 Feb 08 - 08:44 PM (#2254637)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Jim Lad

I remember our modern studies teacher doing an experiment with the word "Rare". Asking each student to pronounce it then marking our spot on the map. There was a remarkable change in the word from one end of our school zone to the other.
Approximate distance.... about 7 or 8 miles.
Much like the Macpherson thread, this one will be all over the map.
My pronunciation for ""Plaidie" would be half way between ay & eh.


05 Feb 08 - 08:52 PM (#2254644)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: michaelr

Yup Jim, the MacP thread inspired me to ask!


05 Feb 08 - 09:20 PM (#2254661)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Scotus

In my experience it's usually 'plydee' (ply as in plywood)

Jack


05 Feb 08 - 09:40 PM (#2254679)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Ythanside

But only in Oz,surely, Scotus.:-)


06 Feb 08 - 01:11 AM (#2254785)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: JennieG

Oy! are you having a go at us Ozzies? most of us talk proper, you know.

I would reckon 'play-dee', but in truth I would agree with Jim Lad, betweey 'ay' and 'eh' even with an Ozzie accent.

Cheers
JennieG.....an Ozzie with some Scots ancestry, from over 160 years ago


06 Feb 08 - 03:11 AM (#2254818)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Jim Lad

Gdayowlmitejavagoodweegenn?

Wouldn't that be "Ploiday" Scotus?


06 Feb 08 - 10:03 AM (#2254953)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Uncle_DaveO

Whereas the garment is "Playd", and in my experience in the US, at least, that checked-type pattern that a Scotsman would call a tartan becomes "a plad".

Dave Oesterreich


06 Feb 08 - 02:31 PM (#2255183)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: GUEST,Boab

Repeat efter me---"plide".


06 Feb 08 - 03:03 PM (#2255221)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: goatfell

YOU SAY PLAYED FOR PLAID

Tom Hamilton from Scotland


06 Feb 08 - 03:13 PM (#2255241)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: catspaw49

PLAIDIE------pronounced, ruh-BIN-o-witz

Any other questions?

Spaw


06 Feb 08 - 11:20 PM (#2255622)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Rowan

Again, it seems, I'm with JennieG.

In Oz I've only heard the word "plaidie" rarely but it was always "PLAY dee" whereas I've heard the word "plaid" routinely, always pronounced "PLAD". Because daughter #2 has taken up Scottish Highland dancing I get to hear the words plaid and tartan quite often, frequently by speakers with a lot more recent Scottish (and Scots) in their lives than mine.

Cheers, Rowan


07 Feb 08 - 02:05 AM (#2255673)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: JennieG

Probably Scotch too Rowan.......

Cheers
JennieG


07 Feb 08 - 06:03 AM (#2255760)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: McGrath of Harlow

People posting on this kind of thread ought to say where they come from.

And "PLAID pronounced PLAD" leaves it open as to whether that "A" is long or short.

Is the word "PLAIDIE" used anyway?


07 Feb 08 - 10:31 AM (#2255948)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh

Well, Burns rhymes it with "laddie"....

Re. "plaid" (which I would pronounce to rhyme with "lad", too), Byron rhymes it with "glade", in "Lachain Y Gair"/"Dark Lochnagar". But then , he was in his own words only "half a Scot". Re. "Plaidie", in the West of Scotland I think that would indeed have the first syllable as in "ply-wood"; cf the word "pay", which tends to be pronounce as in the first syllable of "piper".


07 Feb 08 - 05:02 PM (#2256304)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Rowan

You're right Kevin but, although I reckon "Oz" is adequate location info, I'm no good at formal phonetics. The way most in Oz (including me) would pronounce PLAD it would rhyme with BAD as sung by the Battlefield Band in Bad moon arising; I take it that would be a short "a"

Recently there was a docco on Oz telly, hosted by John Clark (of Fred Dagg fame) about the origins of the Oz accent. It was a real hoot and used a particular sentence to indicate accented differences in accents;

"Ask the master to pass a banana."

Cheers, Rowan


07 Feb 08 - 05:08 PM (#2256315)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: catspaw49

Sorry, I was wrong before. Plaidie should actually be pronounced "FOR-tin-tor-plotz."

Spaw


07 Feb 08 - 05:17 PM (#2256321)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Jim Lad

Had a woman fall out with me once for singin Auld Lang Zyne.
Her son said it made her night.
We (Scots) are never happy unless we're arguing.


07 Feb 08 - 06:57 PM (#2256400)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: michaelr

Thanks, Spaw, always helpful.


07 Feb 08 - 07:11 PM (#2256411)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Giant Folk Eyeball (inactive)

Ewan McColl pronounced it ply-dee on the song about the unfortunate effect of the wind on the young girl's plaidie...

Dunno if that's Scottish or Manc, though!

Chers

Nigel


07 Feb 08 - 07:33 PM (#2256428)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Jim Lad

Not Scottish.

Got to run there's a really good thread on how to pronounce "Pronounce".


07 Feb 08 - 09:09 PM (#2256473)
Subject: RE: How to pronounce 'plaidie'
From: Tattie Bogle

Even within Scotland itself pronunciation varies: I've heard both playdee and pl(eye)dee as well as plad and plied.
And in some areas it's awah, and others awaw.
As they say in my singing group, we'd better all do the same if there's 25 at it at once!