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10 Feb 08 - 04:01 PM (#2258755) Subject: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: SINSULL Do politicians really think that I am impressed by a recorded message telling me why I should vote for them? Or by some starry eyed neophyte who wants me to vote for his/her candidate because he/she is going to end the war (apparently without repercussions), fix the healthcare problems (without affecting taxes), and allow everyone to participate in governing the country (yeah, right)? Hillary has called me four times this weekend. Barack only once. So I have stopped answering the phone. Didn't Hillary vote for the war? Or did I misunderstand? She voted for it because it was politically expedient. Is it not fair to assume that she will act against her conscience and for political motivations for as long as she is in office? But I am getting off topic. My new system for selecting the candidate I will support on Election Day is a simple tick sheet next to my phone. Whoever annoys me the least has the best chance of getting my vote. Hillary 4 + three hang-ups after three rings. Obama 1 McCain 0 Now McCain will have to be handicapped because as a registered Democrat I am not likely to be on his "Let's Pester This One Twice Daily" list. Hillary's attention is fast approaching stalking and I am about to get an Order of Protection against her. All of this is doubly annoying since I am on the National No-Call List. No one can call me trying to sell, solicit or otherwise talk me into something I neither need nor want EXCEPT POLITICIANS. It is outrageous. Even Collection Agencies are not allowed to call more than once per week but I have Bill Clinton's wife calling twice daily. Am I alone in this? Is it MY vote they want? Is no one else being approached hourly? ARGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! |
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10 Feb 08 - 04:06 PM (#2258758) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Peace Not me. But that could change soon because it appears there will be a major bill defeated in the House of Commons and that will require the sitting government to HAVE to call an election, because the defeat of a major bill by the House is deemed to state that there is no longer confidence in the government. Betcha wish you had that in the US. No offence. |
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10 Feb 08 - 04:07 PM (#2258761) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Alice You probably have 0 from McCain because you are not a registered Republican. I look at the caller ID and if it is not someone I know, I don't answer. |
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10 Feb 08 - 04:08 PM (#2258765) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: SINSULL None taken, Bruce. I wish we had that same opportunity. It would have been useful 7 years ago. My comments left on Clinton's website: "Stop calling my home! Four calls in two days is ridiculous! One more call and I will break party lines for the first time in my life and vote Republican! This is not campaigning it is stalking." Mary Sullivan What are the odds my tax return will be audited this year? |
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10 Feb 08 - 04:10 PM (#2258771) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Peace Serious odds? Say 30-1 in favour of the IRS. |
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10 Feb 08 - 04:10 PM (#2258772) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: John Hardly "Didn't Hillary vote for the war? Or did I misunderstand? She voted for it because it was politically expedient." No. It is the demand of the American populace that politicians show themselves to be "bipartisan". "Bipartisan" has displaced "Patriotic" as the single best qualifier to public office. Hillary's vote for the war was her act of "bipartisanship". |
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10 Feb 08 - 04:11 PM (#2258774) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: SINSULL Yes Alice. I do too. But the phone by my computer does not have Caller ID. And if I don't answer, they hang up after three rings (machine picks up on four). You didn't read my entire post - McCain will be handicapped. See above. |
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10 Feb 08 - 04:20 PM (#2258789) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: SINSULL Sorry John - but I am a member of the American Populace and I cried loud and long against invading Afganistan and Iraq. I remember the day (night) the invasion began. While I wept in my office the rest of the staff cheered. "It will be over by Christmas" and "we showed the rag heads who's boss." I asked them "Which Christmas?" and was told I was a bleeding heart liberal. So now the economy has been flushed down the porcelain facility, thousands of US soldiers are dead, tens of thousands of innocent peope are dead, maimed and prepped to become future terrorists. I wonder which Christmas they had in mind? Sorry for the drift. Back to the telephone terrorists. |
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10 Feb 08 - 04:28 PM (#2258798) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Alice Oh, sorry. |
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10 Feb 08 - 04:43 PM (#2258818) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Amos Well, SINS, it may help to know you ain't alone. On the other hand, did you miss the Mission Accomplished presentation witht he flyboy costume? That was so kewl. Dunno what we have been doing since, though... Oh, maybe a different mission, sure, I shoulda thought of that... A |
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10 Feb 08 - 04:58 PM (#2258836) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Jeri I've got a cell phone and the only people who call me on it live 6 miles away. The land line is attached to my computer and work calls me on it once in a blue moon, but mostly the batteries croak and I charge them. I have a dial-up on that line, and a little Radio Shack thingie that rings through when I have a call. I can pick it up if I want and it hangs up the internet connection after a few seconds if I do. The trick (during the NH primary) was to see if I could get off the phone with whomever's recording before the dial-up hung up (which would have necessitated a re-boot because (I think) one of the Microsoft updates screwed it up). After a while, I quit answering it because nobody I knew would have called me on it anyway (except work, but there wasn't any work). I think I posted on a thread about this, but ...imagine how many people would have called you if you were Independent. I am, and there were a bunch more candidates in the race back then. I think they guy whose recording called me the most was Ron Paul. I really despised the name after about the 10th call. On the other hand, Edwards' people invited me to an event with Bonnie Raitt and Jackson Brown and Peter Coyote, not to mention John Edwards, and real people came to my door to talk about Obama. So suck it up, cupcake. Eight calls from one party ain't shit. (How was the caucusing?) |
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10 Feb 08 - 05:09 PM (#2258849) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Rapparee Indiana has a law on the books, which has been upheld by the State Supreme Court, that ALL telemarketer calls (including calls from political parties and "charities") must originate with a live person and from within the State. Boy, did they scream when that law was passed and upheld! Boy, how I wish it was in every State! Ya see, the Indiana Supremes reasoned that the law did not infringe upon anyone making the calls, only that the calls had to come from within the state AND be placed by a living, breathing human being. |
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10 Feb 08 - 06:40 PM (#2258917) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: John Hardly We Hoosiers also gave the world: Hoagy Carmichael Ernie Pyle The Hoosier Hotshots Larry Bird AND Oscar Robertson David Letterman John Mellencamp You're welcome. |
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10 Feb 08 - 06:42 PM (#2258919) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Peace . . . and the word, Hoosier. |
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10 Feb 08 - 06:43 PM (#2258921) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: John Hardly ...a word that is in most people's top five favorite words to say. Again, you are welcome. |
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10 Feb 08 - 06:52 PM (#2258930) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Little Hawk You need "call display", SINSULL. I have it, and I simply don't answer any call that is not from some I KNOW and someone I also WANT to talk to. Period. It's as easy as 1-2-3, and it puts you back in control of the situation. Now, Hillary, though....Geez. I been tryin' to get her to call me for years! Some people have all the luck, eh? ;-) |
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10 Feb 08 - 06:54 PM (#2258934) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Rapparee And Bobby "Madman" Knight. |
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10 Feb 08 - 06:56 PM (#2258938) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: bobad Does anyone know the origin of "Hoosier". |
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10 Feb 08 - 06:59 PM (#2258943) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Amos Not to mention a clutch of fine tunes about Indiana, where the flying fishes play... no, wait, that's not right...anyway there ARE some, I know. A |
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10 Feb 08 - 07:05 PM (#2258952) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: John Hardly "Does anyone know the origin of "Hoosier". " Yes. We are not at liberty to divulge. Bobby Knight (as anyone knows) is a Buckeye. |
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10 Feb 08 - 07:36 PM (#2258988) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: catspaw49 We'll take Bobby of course, but how can you possibly live down Tony George? Spaw |
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10 Feb 08 - 07:41 PM (#2258990) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: bobad "Yes. We are not at liberty to divulge." Searching the web I found that there are many theories as to the origin but nothing definitive. My own theory is that it's a variant of "Hoser". |
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10 Feb 08 - 09:31 PM (#2259064) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: John Hardly What does Indiana care about auto racing? |
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10 Feb 08 - 10:20 PM (#2259098) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Rapparee One theory is that it derives from folks living in a cabin calling out "Who's yere?" when there was a knock on the door. Another is that it derives from the frontier practice of biting off ears in a fight; afterwards someone would ask, "Who's ear?" Having lived there for 16 years or more my own theory is that they had to call the IU sports teams something and "Boilermakers" had already been taken by Purdue and "Fighting Irish" by Notre Dame (both of which claim to be the "real" Indiana university). So on the night that IU's then-nameless basketball team made it's first basket, they named the team from the sound of the collective intake of breath by the fans. The next basket was made in 1961.... |
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11 Feb 08 - 12:20 AM (#2259135) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: katlaughing Sins, and here I was thinking, tonight, how in the world can any woman NOT vote for her, in order to see a woman in the White House? A moment of weakness, perhaps, as I watched the myriad of people at a town meeting in Manasas, VA greeting her and scrambling for her autograph/picture/etc.? I got caught up in the actual joy and excitement of thinking what it means to actually have a WOMAN running for the nomination who actually has a chance, NOT that it is HER, just that it is a WOMAN. That got my old ERA-self excited! I really hope you don't mean it, that you will cross party lines and vote for McWar if she doesn't quit calling you. Your vote DOES count and I'd hate to see the GOP win, again. I don't know why we haven't been getting any calls. My Rog is registered as an Indie and I am a Demo, so you'd think they'd call, but not one call even before the caucus...poor Colorado just isn't that important, I guess.:-) |
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11 Feb 08 - 01:01 AM (#2259144) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: mg I won't vote for her. I'll write someone in, or perhaps vote for Bloomberg if he runs..will not vote for her period. And given a decent woman and a decent African-American to choose from, I think it is far more important to have the African-American for many reasons, not the least of which is to set an example for youth..and take them on, not just inspire them but scold them..like Michelle O. taking on the Mean Girls. mg |
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11 Feb 08 - 08:59 AM (#2259348) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Mrrzy Hillary called me several times this weekend too. I just can't decide - I don't like either of them (I was for Edwards), but I think Obama has a better chance of beating McCain. For one thing, he's more different from McCain than is Hillary. For another, Hillary is so disliked by the Republicans that running her will unite them against her. And last, she called me over and over this weekend, which means she isn't spending her campaign money correctly... |
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11 Feb 08 - 09:18 AM (#2259370) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Donuel I plan to drive the 4 blocks to the polling booth. The last THREE elections I have had to cast a provisional ballot and the time before that my presidential vote was disallowed since I voted for the president and vice president who had a seperate box to check but if I had read the fine print you are not supposed to check it. My wife's votes have never been challenged, only mine. But all the same I plan at least to TRY and vote. |
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11 Feb 08 - 10:20 AM (#2259406) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: SINSULL SIGH...try to guess who left messages on my voice mail at work. YUP! Hillary. Guess that settles it! SINS, who won't for a woman just because she is a woman, especially if she is prone to nuisance phone calls. |
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11 Feb 08 - 10:46 AM (#2259421) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Bill D strange...I live in Maryland, I am a registered Dem. and we vote tomorrow (got my sample ballot the other day), and I have gotten NO calls from either candidate yet. I still have note decided absolutely who I will vote for, but I am leaning.... |
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11 Feb 08 - 10:56 AM (#2259426) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: John Hardly They don't want your vote, Bill. It's an association thing. :> |
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11 Feb 08 - 11:26 AM (#2259458) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Bill D "They don't want your vote, Bill...." funny...I was once ignored by the Salvation Army, too! You soppose they all KNOW by now how dangerous I am to have around? |
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11 Feb 08 - 11:44 AM (#2259484) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Rapparee I know a bunch of women who won't vote for Clinton. Their reasons vary but seem good to them. I plan to vote in private, myself. And I'll ignore any exit pollster who might try to interview me; if they get to pushy I'll punch them in the nose. The way I vote is no one's business but my own. "I'm telling you Buddy -- that's mine." |
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11 Feb 08 - 11:48 AM (#2259495) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: SINSULL They all seem to be targeting the female vote. All the women I talk to have received calls. Tami is even being pursued by McCain. Go figure. |
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11 Feb 08 - 12:04 PM (#2259509) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Bill D Clinton seems to be quite a polarizing figure....some women hate her, others seem to like her. I know several of each. The reasons they give are varied and I can't see a clear pattern. Obviously, a LOT of people in general still trust 'Clintonism' as good for the country. hard to figure out what is driving the decision process this year. |
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11 Feb 08 - 05:20 PM (#2259824) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: ranger1 We got a call yesterday (third from Hillary, btw) from some young woman with a very thick Indian accent, leading me to believe that Hillary is outsourcing her calls. It's bad enough I'm getting harrassed several times a day by pre-recorded messages, now they're coming from India? |
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11 Feb 08 - 05:31 PM (#2259837) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Amos Reaching the hearts and minds of working America--from PUNJAB???? LOL!!!! Too funny. Ask her a tricky policy question and she'll tell she's teddibly soddy but she would have to get back to you on that.... A |
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12 Feb 08 - 05:37 PM (#2260820) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: PoppaGator Speaking of outsourced call centers: The suicide-prevention hotline was exceeding their budget and decided to outsource. Now, when you call in and tell the operator you're thinking about suicide, a voice from Pakistan asks if you know how to drive a truck. Maybe I first "heard" this at Mudcat. If so, my apologies! (If not, I also apologize ~ to anyone who's offended.) |
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13 Feb 08 - 07:50 PM (#2261834) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: SINSULL Sorry Poppa - I don't get it. Meantime no response from Hillary on my stalking complaint. |
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13 Feb 08 - 08:15 PM (#2261851) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: McGrath of Harlow I don't think that too many feminists in the UK were too overjoyed by having Maggie Thatcher in Number Ten, kat. And she hadn't even been married to a previous occupant... (In fact women were less likely to vote for her than men were.) |
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13 Feb 08 - 09:04 PM (#2261886) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Riginslinger "(I was for Edwards), but I think Obama has a better chance of beating McCain." I was for Edwards too, but I'm voting for Hillary because I think she has a better chance of beating McCain. |
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13 Feb 08 - 11:20 PM (#2261951) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: jacqui.c Mary - the original joke has a guy from Afghanistan asking about truck driving - a dangerous pastime out there. |
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13 Feb 08 - 11:28 PM (#2261957) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Amos The joke was located in Pakistan right after the assassination of Mmme. Bhotto, which included several explosions of bombs in trucks, IIRC. A |
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14 Feb 08 - 01:39 AM (#2261985) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Amergin I always thought that Hoosier was just a midwestern way of saying hoser... |
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14 Feb 08 - 12:54 PM (#2262370) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: SINSULL Now I understand. Still no word from Hillary. |
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15 Feb 08 - 06:46 AM (#2262917) Subject: RE: BS: How I plan to vote this year... From: Cats It's really heartening to read through this thread. At least you intend to vote and are not just going to sit back, not vote and then complain. My Gran, a suffragette who went to prison and on hunger strike, would have been proud of you. |