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11 Mar 08 - 08:25 PM (#2285842) Subject: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: GUEST,Jeremy Houlds, Kansas. Just seen in local paper here that Pat Cooksey plays in May near to us, also in Texas, New Orleans, and other places. The songs he wrote everyone knows, has anyone seen him live, seems to us that this will be a one off, to see one of the legends of Irish music. |
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11 Mar 08 - 08:28 PM (#2285845) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: Big Al Whittle Yes he's very good. |
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11 Mar 08 - 08:30 PM (#2285849) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: John MacKenzie Pat is a Member here and there are several threads about him, Here's one G. |
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11 Mar 08 - 08:30 PM (#2285850) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: Big Mick Don't miss him. |
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11 Mar 08 - 10:18 PM (#2285935) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: Leadfingers I can use my Favourite Les Barker quote with regard to Pat Cooksey !! " Sparky Lad , Shit Hot !!" |
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12 Mar 08 - 12:39 AM (#2286007) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: dick greenhaus He has a CD. Available at CAMSCO, of course. |
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12 Mar 08 - 12:59 AM (#2286018) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: GUEST,Brendan Didn't he turn Gerard Hoffnung's 'Bricklayer's Story' into the song 'Paddy's Sick Note'? |
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12 Mar 08 - 04:04 AM (#2286066) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: Big Al Whittle I used to see him a lot in the 1970's when he had a duo with a bloke called Brian Patton. Brian Patten is the name of a famous Liverpool poet, and people used to to turn up to his gigs expecting the poet to be there. I cerstainly went to the first one at Andy Dwyer's club at The Prince of Wales in Tamworth expecting an evening of poetry! At some point in the evening - he always used to ask 'who came expecting the poet?' and about half the hands in the room would shoot up. But he was so good I never saw anyone ask for their money back because they hadn't seen the poet. I could have got the Patten and Patton the wrong way round in that story. Yes he wrote the sick note and the late Barrie Roberts(who used to write here now and then) and Bill Caddick published it in their Songsmith magazine. Leon Rosselson wrote up to Songsmith (Disgusted of Tottenham - sort of thing) and said, wasn't that a joke by Gererd Hoffnung addressing the Oxford Union, and it wasn't very funny the first time. So you see Leon doesn't EVERYTHING about folk music - he never foresaw how the piece would be seized upon by every Irish singer/group that you hear down at The Dog and Duck. Texas and New Orleans... the lad done good! |
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12 Mar 08 - 05:23 AM (#2286101) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: The Borchester Echo I don't think The Sick Note is very funny either but I deplore Pat Cooksey being deprived of his royalties. Leon Rosselson lives in Wembley. |
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12 Mar 08 - 06:14 AM (#2286118) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: John MacKenzie We agree on something again Diane, that's at least twice, it has to stop or people will talk ;) The original version of the story by Gerard Hoffnung, and I believe, it's on a recording called 'Gerard Hoffnung at the Oxford Union', is without parallel, and all else is parody. The timing is the kernel of the story, and no song can ever convey this. G |
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12 Mar 08 - 06:24 AM (#2286124) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: MartinRyan The timing is the kernel of the story, and no song can ever convey this. Can't let that pass! Any unaccompanied singer worth his/her salt would be well capable of using the shape of the tune, the turning of the phrases and the reaction of the audience, to deliver the timing that an extended joke like this requires. Regards |
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12 Mar 08 - 06:27 AM (#2286128) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: MartinRyan Mind you..... I'm not sure the his/her option above was necessary! I don't think I've ever heard a woman sing it. Maybe all this PC talk is getting to me.... Regards |
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12 Mar 08 - 06:35 AM (#2286132) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: Big Al Whittle Maybe you don't like it, but you've got to admit - its very popular. I used to get asked to play it when I was doing the Irish theme pubs. Wasn't my cup of tea either, but some pretty decent singers have had a crack at it - better than me anyway. That's some kind of achievement by one of our number and we should be generous spirited enough to be glad for him. |
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12 Mar 08 - 06:38 AM (#2286135) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: The Borchester Echo As I said, I'd be glad for Mr Cooksey if he got the royalties due for the song. |
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12 Mar 08 - 06:48 AM (#2286140) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: John MacKenzie Al, it's fun, it's clever,it's whimsical, it's parody. It's popular too, the Noel Murphy version was the most requested track on Robbie Shepherd's Sunday radio programme on radio Scotland. Yes I am glad for Pat, and cringe every time I hear it announced as Noel Murphy's song, the very least he deserves is credit for his work. G. |
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12 Mar 08 - 06:57 AM (#2286143) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: The Borchester Echo Thread #47508 Message #708772 Posted By: GUEST,Pat Cooksey. 11-May-02 - 08:16 AM Thread Name: the sick note/ murphy and the bricks. Subject: Origins: the sick note/ murphy and the bricks. Over a long number of years there has been much speculation concerning this song. I wrote this song under it's original title Paddy and the Barrell in 1969, and first performed it in The Dyers Arms in Coventry at this time, and in 1972 Sean Cannon, later to become a member of the Dubliners began to perform it in the folk clubs under the title The Sick Note. The song was based on Gerard Hoffnung's wonderful address to the Oxford Union, but the story in a more simple form dates back to the English music halls in the 1920's and appeared in the Readers Digest in 1937. I personally gave the words of this song to Noel Murphy in a night club in Coventry in the early seventies and his only contribution to this song was to change the title to Murphy and the Bricks, and when this song was recorded Noel Murphy was obliged to remove his name from the writers credits, I still have a letter from Misty River Music to this effect. The song under more than 20 alternative titles has since been recorded more than 100 times worldwide, and in every version the words are identical. This song under all alternative titles has always been the exclusive copywright of myself, Pat Cooksey, and is registered with The Performing Rights Society in London. This includes Dear Boss by The Clancy brothers, The Bricklayers Song by The Corries and Ray Stevens, The Sick Note by The Dubliners, etc,etc, and also Murphy and the Bricks. No other artist had any input into this song nor is any claim for arrangement valid. Pat Cooksey, Nuremberg, Germany. |
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12 Mar 08 - 07:01 AM (#2286148) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: Splott Man Anyway... Go and see him, he's very entertaining. Ask him to do the one about the Sunday Papers. |
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12 Mar 08 - 07:44 AM (#2286167) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: GUEST,Sandy McLean (the cookieless) There has been much discussion on The Sick Note on previous threads. I Quote from Pat's website: "It is generally assumed that I based this song on Gerard Hoffnung's wonderful address to THE OXFORD UNION in 1958. This is not correct. The recitation in a more simple form dates back to the English Music Hall's of the 1920's and was printed in the Readers Digest in 1937 in the form of a story. The fine Scottish singer and songwriter Dick Gaughan details some of the above on his Homepage together with comments by Sam Hinton. The song is unique in as much as it appears under such a galaxy of titles but is always the same song. Its worldwide popularity, with over 100 recordings to date, is indeed a wonder to me when I think back to it's humble beginnings in The Dyer's Arms, in Coventry. I am naturally delighted that so many wonderful artists have recorded and performed my song over the years and I am proud that the song has given so much pleasure to so many people. Long may it continue to do so." |
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09 Jun 09 - 06:36 PM (#2652675) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: GUEST,pat cooksey SORRY JIM: i THINK WERE TALKING OF THE ALBION BAND; THERE WERE INDEED A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE; I ENJOED THE FESTIVAL SO MUCH AND WILL BE BACK AGIN; GOD WILLING NEXT YEAR: FOLK MUSIC IN GERMANY AND ITALY IS REALLY BOOMING, LONG MAY IT CONTINUE: pAT cooksey |
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09 Jun 09 - 07:29 PM (#2652727) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: Tig Long time no see Pat. Hope to again one day. LOts of love and hugs Chris (now Ingram, when we were young Jackson) First Lady of Doncaster, Druid of Norton - origingally from Leeds xxx |
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10 Jun 09 - 09:20 AM (#2653104) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: Betsy Hi Pat ,hope you're doing well - you sounds so , by reading your comments. Happy days with you and Brian and the Byers End crowd in the tiny station bar at Cleethorpes during the festival early 70's. I was with a crowd from Redcar. I can't for the life of me remember the name of a great lad from Coventry - broke his wrists and a leg falling off the pier at Cleethorpes - turned up at the station bar in an ambulance and came out in wheelchair asking " Whose round is it ? ". I've got it on the tip of my tongue and I think it was Paul Riley. Unfortunately Paul's luck (sic) ran out a few years later when photographing steam engines, which turned out to be a different proposition to Cleethorpes sand. Splott Man asks you to sing Sunday Papers - I can't imagine there's another song of that title so presumably he's talking about Barrie Robert's classic. Good Luck, Pete Betts |
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10 Jun 09 - 07:28 PM (#2653583) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: GUEST,Eddie Jackman. Hi Pete, Paul Reilly it was, he drove Pat and Brian to gigs a lot in those days, a lovely lad and a sad loss, I especially remember one day on the platform of Cleethorpes railway station when the beer in the bar had run out and a truck was called to deliver Newcastle Brown Ale, Cooksey and the Coventry crowd were all dressed in second hand and ill fitting evening suits amidst a crowd calling, has the Newcastle arrived yet, great times. I can confirm that Pat is still the same and doing great, still writing good songs. |
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11 Jun 09 - 03:26 PM (#2654217) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: Betsy Cheers Eddie, So THAT was the connection to Pat and Brian. I can still remember Paul's "yodeling " talking voice - unintentional of course - but it just added to his unique personality - God bless him. Pass my regards on to those who remember those great days on the Cleethorpes "fringe".!!!!! |
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11 Jun 09 - 06:30 PM (#2654367) Subject: RE: Who is Pat Cooksey, anyone heard him. From: Tig I still think it was mean of the lot of you to put me in the rubbish bin part way up the lamppost just because I had dared to drink one of the bottles of Newcie out of the case you had left me guarding. Anyone for a topless water pistol fight??? ;-) |