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17 Mar 08 - 06:22 AM (#2290394) Subject: Eostre Greetings From: Bryn Pugh To all 'Catters at Eostre (Vernal Equinox): Joy, Health, Love, Peace and Blessings. So mote it be. |
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17 Mar 08 - 08:59 AM (#2290472) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: IanC Bryn Eostre was the goddess that Easter was named after. I'm sure she's happy, but since about 980 ad we've all called her Easter. :-) Ian |
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17 Mar 08 - 09:23 AM (#2290483) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: GUEST,PMB Can venereal equinox be cured? |
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17 Mar 08 - 09:24 AM (#2290484) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: Amergin No but it can be treated....but the medication has to be taken regularly....and it has hideous side affects.... |
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17 Mar 08 - 09:27 AM (#2290485) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: topical tom Happy Easter to All! |
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17 Mar 08 - 09:37 AM (#2290493) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: GUEST,Cats Blessed be at Eostre. |
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17 Mar 08 - 09:38 AM (#2290494) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: Bryn Pugh Not all of us, IanC - and what is this "ad" shtik ? |
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17 Mar 08 - 01:27 PM (#2290698) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: PoppaGator Isn't the equinox on a fixed date, or at least much closer to being the same date each (solar) year than the lunar-calendar-based Easter? Well, whatever you believe, best wishes for all your springtime celebrations! (Including St Paddy's Day!) |
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17 Mar 08 - 07:09 PM (#2291096) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: Rapparee Happy Spring from a place that got 6 inches of snow over the weekend. |
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17 Mar 08 - 07:41 PM (#2291139) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: katlaughing Blessed be and welcome Spring! Thanks, Bryn. kat |
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17 Mar 08 - 07:58 PM (#2291156) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: Emma B Greet the rising dawn Blessings |
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18 Mar 08 - 07:32 AM (#2291454) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: Jack Blandiver All a bit previous here, aren't we? Maundy Thursday's the Equinox; Good Friday's the full moon, and today is Eloe Omoe's birthday... |
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18 Mar 08 - 08:52 AM (#2291502) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: GUEST,Blessedbe Eloe and happy birthday to Omoe's everywhere. |
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18 Mar 08 - 09:33 AM (#2291531) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: IanC Bryn If you read Bede's "On the Calculation of Time", actually written about 720 anno domini (plenty of translations from the latin), you'll find that Hreðmonað, roughly our March, was the month of the Goddess Hreðe. This was followed by Eostremonað. Basically, the pre-Christian Anglo-Saxons used a solar/lunar calendar and calculated it so that the first day in Eostre's month (Eostremonað) was when the first wisp of the moon showed following the equinox. Thus it will always be later than the vernal equinox in the same way that Easter is. Bede explains it quite well in his treatise (qv) and since it is the only explanation available, I feel we ought to honour it. ;-) Ian btw: having lunar months in a solar year has the interesting effect that no corrections are needed to the calendar ... every now and then they just threw in an extra month in the summer. Fixed. |
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18 Mar 08 - 09:35 AM (#2291535) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: IanC Forgot to say that Bede seems to have been the only person to have called her Eostre, though she has been associated with the wider European name Ostare for a similar goddess. |
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18 Mar 08 - 10:48 AM (#2291599) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: Bryn Pugh Anno Domini ? Which 'lord' ? Whose 'lord' ? |
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18 Mar 08 - 10:50 AM (#2291604) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: Catherine Jayne Blessed Be Khatt, Paul and Harry |
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18 Mar 08 - 10:57 AM (#2291608) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: MMario Bryn - you adhere to a usage that has almost no documentation, was localized to begin with and has only been resumed in recent decades - but complain about a standard nomenclature used for almost 2000 years over a large percentage of the world? Strange.... |
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18 Mar 08 - 11:35 AM (#2291638) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: Bryn Pugh Complain ? Where, pray ? |
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18 Mar 08 - 11:39 AM (#2291640) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: MMario If you are not complaining then you appear to be displaying massive ignorance. I assumed it was complaint; if it is ignaorance, so be it. |
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18 Mar 08 - 11:45 AM (#2291644) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: peregrina Actually, anno domini dating was given currency by none other than Bede himself. Previous dating systems reckoned by Roman emperors, local rulers, papal years, indictions and years elapsed from the creation of the world... |
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18 Mar 08 - 11:51 AM (#2291646) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: GUEST,PMB If you object to AD, you could always use Comma Nearer (CE). Remember, Rome wasn't built in AD. I think it should be renamed Egmas. |
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18 Mar 08 - 12:26 PM (#2291673) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: Bryn Pugh You won't tempt me into a row, MMario. Follow your faith, and allow mwe to follow mine. |Blessed Be |
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18 Mar 08 - 12:43 PM (#2291683) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: katlaughing Must everything on Mudcat elicit this kind of lintpicking? Bryn started this thread as a simple greeting. How about just saying thanks etc. and let it go OR not even post if you just want to start an argument? |
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18 Mar 08 - 12:51 PM (#2291688) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: IanC I responded the way I did basically because the original posting was clearly inaccurate (I don't know anything about modern "neo-pagan" ideas). Firstly, the vernal equinox was never in the Eostre (easter) month. Secondly, the name Eostre (pronounced Easter) was only ever mentioned historically by Bede and he said a month, not a day was named after her. Thirdly, it seems reasonable to call a goddess Eostre, and worship her if you want, but why give her a nonexistent day in somebody else's month? :-( Ian |
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20 Mar 08 - 09:47 AM (#2293494) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: Bryn Pugh Wasn't it your christian prophet who said 'some fell on stony ground' ? |
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20 Mar 08 - 10:10 AM (#2293506) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: Big Mick Some folks need a different hobby, I think. Accept the simple greeting from this person, and return it with your own. Neither should cause offense. One should accept a greeting in the way it was intended. As to the comments about "neo pagans", I am not sure what that means. I know that I tire of those that seek to remake paganism, and druidism into what they want it to be instead of what it was or is. But those that seek to whitewash the actions of the Christian Church at various times are just as guilty. It makes much more sense to me to celebrate what we have in common, and look for the good in folks. And we need to accept the greetings in the manner that they are offered. So, Bryn, thanks for the greeting. May you celebrate the joy of the rebirth of life and the hope it holds for all of eternity. All the best, Mick |
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20 Mar 08 - 10:58 AM (#2293575) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: jacqui.c Eostre Greetings to you Bryn. Easter Greetings to those who celebrate the holiday. Here in Maine it is likely that Spring won't show for a while yet but the rebirth is there, just hidden right now by the snow. |
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21 Mar 08 - 06:44 AM (#2294323) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: Jack Campin Be careful everybody! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7305522.stm |
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21 Mar 08 - 09:19 AM (#2294388) Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings From: GUEST,Treehugger Spring is sprung the grass is ris, I wonder where the birdies is? |