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BS: MoveOn.org's 10 MaCain Snafu's

06 Apr 08 - 01:16 AM (#2307990)
Subject: BS: MoveOn.org's 10 MaCain Snafu's
From: Barry Finn

I wanted to post this from MoveOn.org. Although it's not getting any airplay that I'm aware of that John has voted consistently in the senate for anything pro military aggression, he's also got some history elsewhere that's not getting any lime light. So as I'm very opposed to a future republican majority in any houses of this government & to a republican administration I'd like to air more of his better unknown qualities that would make him less a canadte for sherrif's office never mind the nation highest office. Yes, it's true I'm a radical democrate, sue me.Dear MoveOn member,
For all the coverage this week of Senator John McCain's background, there are some important things you won't learn about him from the TV networks. His carefully crafted positive image relies on people not knowing this stuff—and you might be surprised by some of it.

"Please check out the list below, and then forward it to your friends, family, and coworkers. We can't rely on the media to tell folks about the real John McCain—but if we all pass this along, we can reach as many people as CNN Headline News does on a good night."

"Click here to tell us how many people you can pass it on to—and to see our progress nationally:"

http://pol.moveon.org/mccain10/?id=12407-7942996-YS41K6&t=231

"10 things you should know about John McCain (but probably don't):"

1. John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has "evolved," yet he's continued to oppose key civil rights laws.1

2. According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain "will make Cheney look like Gandhi."2

3. His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.3

4. McCain opposes a woman's right to choose. He said, "I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned."4


5. The Children's Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children's health care bill last year, then defended Bush's veto of the bill.5


6. He's one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a "second job" and skip their vacations.6

7. Many of McCain's fellow Republican senators say he's too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: "The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He's erratic. He's hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."7


8. McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates.8

9. McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his "spiritual guide," Rod Parsley, believes America's founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a "false religion." McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church "the Antichrist" and a "false cult."9


10. He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year.10

John McCain is not who the Washington press corps make him out to be. Please help get the word out—forward this email to your personal network. And if you want us to keep you posted on MoveOn's work to get the truth out about John McCain, sign up here:
http://pol.moveon.org/mccaintruth/?id=12407-7942996-YS41K6&t=232


Thank you for all you do.

–Eli, Justin, Noah, Laura, and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team
Saturday, April 5th, 2008

Sources:
1. "The Complicated History of John McCain and MLK Day," ABC News, April 3, 2008
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/the-complicated.html

"McCain Facts," ColorOfChange.org, April 4, 2008
http://colorofchange.org/mccain_facts/


2. "McCain More Hawkish Than Bush on Russia, China, Iraq," Bloomberg News, March 12, 2008
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aF28rSCtk0ZM&refer=us


"Buchanan: John McCain 'Will Make Cheney Look Like Gandhi,'" ThinkProgress, February 6, 2008
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/06/buchanan-gandhi-mccain/

3. "McCain Sides With Bush On Torture Again, Supports Veto Of Anti-Waterboarding Bill," ThinkProgress, February 20, 2008
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/20/mccain-torture-veto/

4. "McCain says Roe v. Wade should be overturned," MSNBC, February 18, 2007
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17222147/

5. "2007 Children's Defense Fund Action Council® Nonpartisan Congressional Scorecard," February 2008
http://www.childrensdefense.org/site/PageServer?pagename=act_learn_scorecard2007


"McCain: Bush right to veto kids health insurance expansion," CNN, October 3, 2007
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/03/mccain.interview/

6. "Beer Executive Could Be Next First Lady," Associated Press, April 3, 2008
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h-S1sWHm0tchtdMP5LcLywg5ZtMgD8VQ86M80

"McCain Says Bank Bailout Should End `Systemic Risk,'" Bloomberg News, March 25, 2008
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aHMiDVYaXZFM&refer=home


7. "Will McCain's Temper Be a Liability?," Associated Press, February 16, 2008
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4301022


"Famed McCain temper is tamed," Boston Globe, January 27, 2008
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/01/27/famed_mccain_temper_is_tamed/


8. "Black Claims McCain's Campaign Is Above Lobbyist Influence: 'I Don't Know What The Criticism Is,'" ThinkProgress, April 2, 2008
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/02/mccain-black-lobbyist/


"McCain's Lobbyist Friends Rally 'Round Their Man," ABC News, January 29, 2008
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4210251


9. "McCain's Spiritual Guide: Destroy Islam," Mother Jones Magazine, March 12, 2008
http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2008/03/john-mccain-rod-parsley-spiritual-guide.html


"Will McCain Specifically 'Repudiate' Hagee's Anti-Gay Comments?," ThinkProgress, March 12, 2008
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/12/mccain-hagee-anti-gay/

"McCain 'Very Honored' By Support Of Pastor Preaching 'End-Time Confrontation With Iran,'" ThinkProgress, February 28, 2008
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/28/hagee-mccain-endorsement/


10. "John McCain Gets a Zero Rating for His Environmental Record," Sierra Club, February 28, 2008
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/environment/77913/
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Thanks

Time for MaCain to take his shell game & fold.

Barry


06 Apr 08 - 01:26 AM (#2307993)
Subject: RE: BS: MoveOn.org's 10 MaCain Snafu's
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor

I am pretty sure I saw this earlier today. Maybe on another thread.

McCain has much bigger drawbacks than any of those this election.

The Democratic/527 sound bites are mounting.

Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran.
Iran is training Al Qaeda.
I Don't know Economics.
100 years in Iraq, we can't leave if they are shooting. We won't if they are not.
Keep Bush's Tax cuts.
Keep Bush's war.
Third Bush term.
There was no Al Qaeda in Iraq until you and President Bush invaded.
The surge is not working.
The maverick has lobbiest running his campaign.
He would be 72 if he is sworn in.


06 Apr 08 - 01:46 AM (#2308002)
Subject: RE: BS: MoveOn.org's 10 MaCain Snafu's
From: Barry Finn

Sorry if this is a redundent thread. Please combine it with any others that may be of the same ilk.

Barry


06 Apr 08 - 07:34 AM (#2308149)
Subject: RE: BS: MoveOn.org's 10 MaCain Snafu's
From: kendall

Does anyone know for a fact that some of these counts are not true?


06 Apr 08 - 08:11 AM (#2308169)
Subject: RE: BS: MoveOn.org's 10 MaCain Snafu's
From: wysiwyg

Timely, with PA primary coming.

Ixnay on the IcCainMay.

~Susan


06 Apr 08 - 08:29 AM (#2308177)
Subject: RE: BS: MoveOn.org's 10 MaCain Snafu's
From: Bobert

The McIssue that I've been trying to expose here in Mudville that I don't think that Move.On has taken quite seriously enough is the tying of McCain to Phil Gramm and the Failed Reaganonomics that has brought about the failure of the Bear-Saterns which in turn has led the Fed to open up the treasure to be raided by fat cats on Wall Street...

THis issue alone, if hammered over and over will gain traction... I'd love to wirte the ad and, yeah, I'f make it "class warfare":

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Scene: A child's coffin one one side of the screen and a 70 foot fancy boat on the other with rich folks partying...

The Voice: "Thirty Billion for Wall Street... Nothing for our kids health care... Vote Obama/ Richardson to get our priorties back in line"...

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B~


06 Apr 08 - 09:23 AM (#2308199)
Subject: RE: BS: MoveOn.org's 10 MaCain Snafu's
From: artbrooks

Kendall, No 3. says His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban. This apparently refers to the Intelligence Authorization Bill, which wasn't solely a bill to ban waterboarding. No. 6 is He's one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a "second job" and skip their vacations. "He and is wife" is the accurate part - apparently, most of the money is hers.

MoveOn, and personally I agree with their positions (if not their verbiage) much of the time, is about as good at restating of factual information as anyone else out there.


06 Apr 08 - 12:55 PM (#2308335)
Subject: RE: BS: MoveOn.org's 10 MaCain Snafu's
From: katlaughing

Bobert, somewhere, last week, on NPR, they had some expert from some Uni who knew all about the "skeletons" in the closet, i.e. Gramm and the rest of them who brought about the deregs which are facilitating a recession now; started back in 2001. I can't for the life of me, find the program on NPR's site. I was going to send a link to my friend, that day, which I think was last Thursday. I'll go looks some more. Maybe I can find it. It was both terrible and enlightening to hear.


06 Apr 08 - 01:33 PM (#2308376)
Subject: RE: BS: MoveOn.org's 10 MaCain Snafu's
From: John on the Sunset Coast

BFD. Big Whoop. Whatever,


06 Apr 08 - 08:49 PM (#2308646)
Subject: RE: BS: MoveOn.org's 10 MaCain Snafu's
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor

>>Sorry if this is a redundent thread. Please combine it with any others that may be of the same ilk.<<

Amos posted it in his popular views on McCain thread. You did a good thing starting a new one, I think. The list is worthy of its own thread.