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29 Apr 08 - 12:25 PM (#2328733) Subject: BS: My Government At Work From: JohnInKansas Just for information for those interested. A recent flurry of illegal phone calls to my phone number, which is registered on the US Do Not Call list, finally revealed sufficient information about the caller to permit filing a complaint. Although the information is probably bogus, I decided to report it anyway. At the FTC donotcall website (quite official and the proper one, as verified to the extent possible) the link to "file a complaint" (of a donotcall list violation) is instantly identified by my AV/AntiSpyware as having an invalid id certificate, and as having been identified as a "probable phishing site" and is blocked from loading. I am strongly urged not to override the block, and if I choose to do so to be extremely cautious about revealing any information and not to reveal any personal information. In the absence of any other way to report to the FTC that their website is identified as a scam, I finally found a place where I could file my complaint with the FTC's Consumer Fraud Division, to report the FTC as a SCAM WEBSITE. Since the protections gave a clear pass for this complaint site (and I've been there before), I'm waiting for them to call me now - but I'm not holding my breath. John |
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29 Apr 08 - 01:28 PM (#2328810) Subject: RE: BS: My Government At Work From: Barry Finn They're the only reason to keep the death penatly alive Barry |
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29 Apr 08 - 01:48 PM (#2328838) Subject: RE: BS: My Government At Work From: Donuel Good for you. Your efforts will probably go unrewarded except for the possibility that some future families might be spared victimization. You will never know, but it is worth passing a mitzvah forward even if a reward is unlikely. |
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30 Apr 08 - 02:38 PM (#2329994) Subject: RE: BS: My Government At Work From: JohnInKansas Via email moments ago: Thank you for contacting the Federal Trade Commission. We entered the information you provided into our shared law enforcement data base. We share this data base with Federal, State and Local law enforcement agencies. Attached is your electronic response, which includes your reference number. Any enclosures can be found at www.ftc.gov under Consumer Protection and Consumer Information section. Information from consumers like you helps Federal, State and Local authorities investigate possible illegal practices and enforce our laws. Someone from the Federal Trade Commission or another law enforcement agency may contact you if they need additional information to help them in an investigation. Now the FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, and the Wichita KS Police Vice Squad all know that the FCC is a bunch of SCAMMERS. (The FCC will be the only one who won't bother to read the complaint.) Maybe I should send a personal message to the DOJ so they can issue a memo to protect the fine people at the FCC from being tortured by Homeland Security. They could say FCC SCAMs are ok 'cause GWB approved them. Unfortunately, I'd have to pretend to be rich and Republican to get DOJ to read my message, and then they'd want to torture me for running a scam. John |
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30 Apr 08 - 02:48 PM (#2330005) Subject: RE: BS: My Government At Work From: JohnInKansas Danged typos. All refs to FCC in previous should be FTC. I guess I was just too 'whelmed by actually getting a response - even if it did come out of a can. John |
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01 May 08 - 09:41 AM (#2330545) Subject: RE: BS: My Government At Work From: Peace I read the title and thought this thread was a joke. John, if you start communicating with your government you are asking for nothing but trouble down the road. You'll have to change your name to JohnInLimbo or JohnInGuantanamo or something like that. Be warned. |
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01 May 08 - 01:40 PM (#2330762) Subject: RE: BS: My Government At Work From: Don(Wyziwyg)T "Government" and "work" in the same sentence? An interesting but somewhat incredible concept. Rather like Military Intelligence. Don T. |
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01 May 08 - 03:58 PM (#2330889) Subject: RE: BS: My Government At Work From: Liz the Squeak OI!! I resemble that remark!!! LTS - the one in her office who does actually work occasionally! |
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01 May 08 - 04:37 PM (#2330925) Subject: RE: BS: My Government At Work From: Herga Kitty Liz - could we persuade Les Barker to write a song about occasional administrators? Kitty |
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01 May 08 - 05:30 PM (#2330961) Subject: RE: BS: My Government At Work From: Joe Offer If you ever check Mudcat for the person occasionally identified as "LTS pretending to work," you'll find all this (click). -Joe Offer, who actually had to work pretty hard for the Government- (but that was long, long ago) |
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12 Sep 10 - 07:25 AM (#2984982) Subject: RE: BS: My Government At Work From: GUEST,Gentle Gaint Good news in the Times today. The British government are to slash the "sickness benefit" or incapacity benefit budget by 2.5 billion. Sadly the Labour government had a policy of handing out taxpayers money to a considerable amount of workshy individuals who made social welfare leeching a way of life. The government should introduce a hefty tax on private landlords as they are creaming millions of the government in Social Security housing benefits. If someone chooses not to work for a living they should not be rewarded with a new house of their choice from letting agents, here in Glasgow there are plenty run down properties with outside toilets they can scrounge from. At last we are seeing a government with teeth in the UK. |
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12 Sep 10 - 07:44 AM (#2984991) Subject: RE: BS: My Government At Work From: VirginiaTam sadly... it won't be the workshy who will suffer from this as they know how to beat the system. Who WILL suffer are the legitimate disabled who do not have the support to help them navigate the hoops one has to jump through. What we ARE seeing, as ever, is a government with no compassion or understanding of what daily life is like for the infirm and terminally poor. How many people make a lifestyle choice to live on £54 a week? I've seen council housing that was in the worst condition and worst neighbourhoods. Mildew on the walls, no heat and no hot water. Yeah! Put me down for one of those, please. I'll quit my job (I am underemployed) and watch daytime telly all day and go to pubs and scrounge off me mates (if I had any) to keep warm at night. Thi government needs to make certain that there are jobs for the so called workshy to apply for. |
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12 Sep 10 - 08:01 AM (#2984995) Subject: RE: BS: My Government At Work From: GUEST,Gentle Gaint I accept your point, but Incapacity benefit, Disability Living Allowance, carers allowance and housing benefit add up to a lot more than £54 a week. On top of that, here in Glasgow a lot give their children undiluted orange juice prior to testing for hyperactivity allowance, one of many old tricks exchanged during coffee mornings. You do have to agree the system is widely abused. |
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12 Sep 10 - 12:24 PM (#2985094) Subject: RE: BS: My Government At Work From: Ebbie Unfair!, Joe O. :) |
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12 Sep 10 - 01:23 PM (#2985126) Subject: RE: BS: My Government At Work From: Richard Bridge I wonder if the US and UK elements of this thread should be separate (and, preferably, the fugitives from Mars left there)? |
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12 Sep 10 - 02:32 PM (#2985171) Subject: RE: BS: My Government At Work From: Q (Frank Staplin) Hyperactivity and undiluted orange juice- another urban myth. |
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13 Sep 10 - 05:56 AM (#2985593) Subject: RE: BS: My Government At Work From: Michael But hyperactivity and brightly coloured and flavoured sugar/sweetener syrup is possibly another matter. Mike |
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13 Sep 10 - 04:19 PM (#2986026) Subject: RE: BS: My Government At Work From: VirginiaTam A few months ago read an article in a about child carers. Example of one family, 13 and 10 year old siblings, caring for their parents both on incapacity benefit. Both parent in wheelchairs, one due to MS the other either illness or accident. And the 17 year old helping with her sister's daily needs (wheelchair bound with cerebral palsy), and now doing all care for sister and Mum when Mum was struck with MS. Another 2 wheelchair family. As at the 2001 census - "There are over 175,000 young people in the UK caring for someone with a physical or learning disability, illness or substance dependency. Some 13,000 are providing more than 50 hours of help a week. There are problems with the way these figures are constructed. The stats show 85% of all young carers provide 1-19 hours of care a week to a disabled, frail or chronically ill person. This lack of detail masks some important issues. There is a massive difference between caring for a disabled sibling for a couple of hours a week and being the sole carer for a single parent with severe mental illness. The impact of home situations can differ greatly from carer to carer. Caring is also considered a hidden problem. Many young people don't see themselves as carers or consider seeking help when they find it hard to cope with the situation. Many younger carers of school age also fail to seek help when their situation makes them a target for bullies." Now Gentle... you go tell them they must move to slums and that they have to make do on the income and support their parents receive from the government, post cuts. I maintain that it will be the most needful who will suffer the most, especially under this government. |
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03 Dec 10 - 01:47 PM (#3045705) Subject: RE: BS: My Government At Work From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email) Well I see today a Labour MP was certainly at his work ! Labour MP David Chaytor has pleaded guilty to three charges of fraud over his expenses. His admission of fraudulently claiming Parliamentary expenses means he is the first politician to get a criminal conviction in connection with the scandal. Chaytor had previously denied the charges screaming he did nothing wrong. He was to stand trial at Southwark Crown Court on Monday. Today he changed his plea to guilty. He will be sentenced on January 7 at Southwark Crown Court and faces a maximum of seven years jail. He is expected to receive a more lenient sentence due to his guilty plea. |