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21 May 08 - 10:45 AM (#2346085) Subject: Mozart Effect From: mack/misophist A friend who knows much more about music than I says: New Findings on the Mozart Effect: A recent report now says that the Mozart effect is another charming urban legend. The bad news for the hip urban professionals: playing Mozart for your designer baby will not improve his IQ or help him get into that exclusive pre-school. He'll just have to get admitted to Harvard some other way. Of course, we're all better off for listening to Mozart purely for the pleasure of it. However, one wonders whether, if playing Mozart sonatas for little Tiffany or Jason could boost their intelligence, what would happen if other composers were played during the kiddies' developmental time? LISZT EFFECT: Child speaks rapidly and extravagantly, but never really says anything important. BRUCKNER EFFECT: Child speaks very slowly and repeats himself frequently. Gains reputation for profundity. WAGNER EFFECT: Child becomes a megalomaniac. May eventually marry his sister. MAHLER EFFECT: Child continually screams - at great length and volume - that he's dying. SCHOENBERG EFFECT: Child never repeats a word until he's used all the other words in his vocabulary. Sometimes talks backwards. Eventually, people stop listening to him. Child blames them for their inability to understand him. IVES EFFECT: The child develops a remarkable ability to carry on several separate conversations at once. GLASS EFFECT: The child tends to repeat himself over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. STRAVINSKY EFFECT: The child is prone to savage, guttural and profane outbursts that often lead to fighting and pandemonium in the preschool. BRAHMS EFFECT: The child is able to speak beautifully as long as his sentences contain a multiple of three words (3, 6, 9, 12, etc.) However, his sentences containing 4 or 8 words are strangely uninspired. CAGE EFFECT: Child says nothing for 4 minutes, 33 seconds. (Preferred by 10 out of 9 classroom teachers.) |
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21 May 08 - 11:29 AM (#2346132) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Amos THis is excellent. One might add the Brubeck Effect -- child gets quicklybored to tears with the normal passage of time and manages to multi-task at amazing speeds and with amazing dexterity things that are all happening at different rates. This opens a whole can of worms, doesn't it? A |
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21 May 08 - 01:17 PM (#2346204) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Les in Chorlton The Sea Shanty Effect - your Child has lots and lots of things to say but after awhile you begin to think most of it has been said before. |
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21 May 08 - 01:21 PM (#2346210) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Liz the Squeak And the Rutter effect - takes 3 pages to say one word over three octaves. LTS |
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21 May 08 - 01:39 PM (#2346228) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Crane Driver I prefer the Brahms and Liszt effect myself - a tendency to fall over with a silly grin on my face . . . More gin, mother? |
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21 May 08 - 01:52 PM (#2346235) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Ernest LENNON EFFECT: still needs diapers in preschool, because it gives PISS a chance... |
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21 May 08 - 06:36 PM (#2346445) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Tootler FUGUE EFFECT: Starts to say something, then repeats it several times at different pitches. |
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21 May 08 - 10:50 PM (#2346568) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: GUEST,Gerry Let's keep on-topic here. What would be the Barbry Allen effect? the John Henry effect? the Woody Guthrie effect? the Martin Carthy effect? the banjo effect? the bodhran effect? |
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21 May 08 - 11:43 PM (#2346594) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Amos The General Folk music Effect: Child refuses to take life seriously because everything has basically happened twelve times before and he knows the ballads that prove it. A |
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22 May 08 - 03:46 AM (#2346666) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Splott Man The CARTHY effect: takes ages to prepare to say something, then says it with precision and dexterity. The McCOLL effect: the child's accent changes as it gets older. |
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22 May 08 - 03:50 AM (#2346669) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Splott Man The BELLOWHEAD effect: just when you thought the child couldn't get any more excited, it gets even more excited. |
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22 May 08 - 03:50 AM (#2346671) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Les in Chorlton Anybody for the Bert Lloyd Effect? |
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22 May 08 - 04:00 AM (#2346675) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: gnomad Child Ballad effect: every story is told at great length, with details varying and gruesome, but not always believable. Uses words whose meaning is decidedly ambiguous. |
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22 May 08 - 04:01 AM (#2346676) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: GUEST,LTS pretending to work The Show of Hands effect - gets asked to repeat itself again and again and again and again and again...... LTS |
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22 May 08 - 04:35 AM (#2346682) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Splott Man The BARBRY ALLEN effect: child grows up with a strong desire to paint the town red. |
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22 May 08 - 08:08 AM (#2346767) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Splott Man The TWO SISTERS effect: doesn't bear thinking about |
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22 May 08 - 01:24 PM (#2346975) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Donuel Mahler's last 3 words: "Play some Mozart." |
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22 May 08 - 01:29 PM (#2346980) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Ernest The TRADITIONAL-UNACCOMPANIED-SINGER effect: puts his finger in various body-openings |
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23 May 08 - 08:26 AM (#2347551) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: MikeofNorthumbria The Irish Session Effect (AKA The Bluegrass Session Effect): plays every tune so fast that it sounds meaningless - to prove that he can. The English Session Effect: plays every tune at a speed suitable for dancing (in a vat of porridge while wearing deep-sea diving boots)- to prove that he's really authentic. Wassail! |
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23 May 08 - 09:07 AM (#2347576) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: *daylia* the J.S.BACH Effect: a well-tempered child grows up and goes baroque |
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23 May 08 - 09:21 AM (#2347588) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: GUEST,leeneia Very good, daylia! |
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23 May 08 - 11:34 AM (#2347683) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: GUEST,Horse of Combat The DYLAN effect; child moans incomprehensibly in a pained and peevish way |
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23 May 08 - 10:09 PM (#2347940) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: olddude Redneck effect - listens to country music, drinks beer and takes a piss off the deck of his double wide |
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24 May 08 - 04:35 PM (#2348369) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: GUEST Junk science. There is a predisposition though for babies to grow up in a household that has Mozart being played to usually be of a higher income or higher educated group. That might be a correlation with Mozart and Harvard. You might have to ask how many young people today have even heard Mozart? There is something to be said for playing classical music such as Mozart while you study for an exam. This is still in the category of junk science, however. Although membership is preferred, visitors are welcome to post as guests at Mudcat. However, we require that you use a consistent and distinctive name. Please pick a name and use it consistently. Thank you. - joe clone - |
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24 May 08 - 04:41 PM (#2348373) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Def Shepard "The Show of Hands effect - gets asked to repeat itself again and again and again and again and again...... could this also be applied to The Mudcat Effect? ;-D |
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24 May 08 - 06:08 PM (#2348422) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Acorn4 The Lloyd-Webber effect - child continually gazes at its reflection in the back of a spoon -also known as the "Manilow Effect". |
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25 May 08 - 08:28 AM (#2348726) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: the button UNTHANK effect: child speaks well, but is criticised by parents for being too young. |
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28 Jun 10 - 11:52 AM (#2936039) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Desert Dancer 'Mozart Effect' Was Just What We Wanted To Hear The newest issue of the journal Intelligence has the largest review ever of research on the so-called Mozart Effect, the popular idea that listening to classical music can enhance the intelligence of people in general and babies in particular. The review is titled "Mozart Effect, Schmozart Effect," which should give you some idea of its conclusion: there ain't no such thing. But even if listening to Beethoven won't make us smarter, the history of how the Mozart Effect ultimately became fashionable does have something to teach us. It's a story about careful science, less careful journalism, and of course, death threats. NPR went back to the original researcher: Rauscher still stands by her original finding, but says subsequent research has shown that it's not really about Mozart. Any music that you find engaging will do the same thing, because compared to something like sitting in silence, the brain finds it stimulating. "The key to it is that you have to enjoy the music," Rauscher says. "If you hate Mozart you're not going to find a Mozart Effect. If you love Pearl Jam, you're going to find a Pearl Jam effect." So, pick your line above. :-) ~ Becky in Tucson |
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28 Jun 10 - 08:27 PM (#2936342) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Jack Campin The Martin Carthy Effect: results in a kid who can't get started breastfeeding without twiddling each nipple for ten minutes first. |
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28 Jun 10 - 08:45 PM (#2936348) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Smokey. The Stockhausen effect: perpetual incontinence and/or coprophilia. |
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28 Jun 10 - 09:05 PM (#2936355) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Q (Frank Staplin) It could be worse- the Rap effect. |
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28 Jun 10 - 09:14 PM (#2936362) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Jack Campin Smokey may not like what he thinks he knows of Stockhausen but that's just silly. part of Tierkreis |
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28 Jun 10 - 09:22 PM (#2936363) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Smokey. Of course it's silly, Jack, it's not a serious subject. Please feel at liberty to substitute anything you don't like for KS. Perhaps I should have made that clear for the benefit of his admirers, but in my foolishness I didn't think it was necessary. |
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28 Jun 10 - 09:55 PM (#2936377) Subject: RE: Mozart Effect From: Smokey. I'm sure I've heard that tune somewhere before... |