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02 Jun 08 - 10:45 AM (#2355169) Subject: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: SINSULL One of the guys I work with found a huge diamond ring at a festival yesterday. He pocketed it and plans on keeping it without trying to find the owner. Strangely enough, two weeks ago, a woman came into the Portland Harbor Museum with a large diamond ring she had found in the parking lot. She wanted the museum's help in returning it. When I pointed out to him (he is in the process of trying to find an affordable diamond for his engagemment) that if his fiance had lost it he would want it returned, he (and all the men around) looked at me as if I was crazy. One actually said that the person who lost the ring did something to deserve "bad Karma" and they deserved to lose the ring. So...finders keepers losers weepers? He has agreed to hold on to the ring for two weeks if I will watch the papers for an ad asking for its return. No ad and he will keep the ring. |
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02 Jun 08 - 10:49 AM (#2355173) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: katlaughing I'll bet he shoplifted as a kid and his parents never made him take it back and apologise to the storeowner. What a creep. The joke would be on him if it turned out not to be a real diamond! |
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02 Jun 08 - 10:51 AM (#2355174) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Backwoodsman In UK law his actions would be deemed to be theft. Tell him he's a thief. And a shithouse. |
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02 Jun 08 - 10:53 AM (#2355177) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: bobad I'm sure justifications can be made for either action, the one chosen speaks much to the character of the individual. |
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02 Jun 08 - 11:04 AM (#2355186) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: katlaughing You might want to print this and give it to him, Mary: Chapter 21: LOST GOODS AND STRAY BEASTS §1051. Duty of finder of money or goods worth $3 or more Whoever finds lost money or goods of the value of $3 or more shall, if the owner is unknown, within 7 days give notice thereof in writing to the clerk of the town where the money or goods are found and post a notification thereof in some public place in said town. If the value is $10 or more, the finder, in addition to the notice to the town clerk and the notification to be posted, shall, within one month after finding, publish a notice thereof in some newspaper published in the town, if any, otherwise in some newspaper published in the county. §1053. Appraisal if value $10 or more Every finder of lost goods or stray beasts of the value of $10 or more shall, within 2 months after finding and before using them to their disadvantage, procure a warrant from the town clerk or a notary public, directed to 2 persons appointed by said clerk or notary, not interested except as inhabitants of the town, returnable at said clerk's office within 7 days from its date, to appraise said goods under oath. [1995, c. 227, §2 (amd).] PL 1995, Ch. 227, §2 (AMD). §1054. Restitution to appearing owner; money or goods If the owner of such lost money or goods appears within 6 months, and if the owner of such stray beasts appears within 2 months after said notice to the town clerk and gives reasonable evidence of ownership to the finder, the owner shall have restitution of them or the value of the money or goods, paying all necessary charges and reasonable compensation to the finder for keeping, to be adjudged by the district court, if the owner and finder cannot agree. [1995, c. 227, §3 (amd).] PL 1995, Ch. 227, §3 (AMD). §1056. Finder's rights when no owner appears If no owner appears within 6 months, such money or lost goods shall belong to the finder by paying 1/2 their value after deducting all necessary charges to the treasurer of said town; but if he neglects to pay it on demand, it may be recovered in an action brought by said treasurer in the name of the town. §1058. Failure to give notice; penalty If the finder of lost money or goods of the value of $3 or more or if the person taking up such stray beast neglects to give notice to the town clerk and to cause them to be advertised as provided, he forfeits to the owner the full value thereof unless he delivers or accounts therefor to the owner, in which case he shall forfeit not more than $20, 1/2 to the town and 1/2 to the prosecutor. Also, THIS |
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02 Jun 08 - 11:10 AM (#2355189) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: kendall In this country, stealing is defined by intent. If you take something that doesn't belong to you and you don't intend to return it, it's stealing. I don't know about Karma, but I do know about character, and he has none. |
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02 Jun 08 - 11:26 AM (#2355208) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: John on the Sunset Coast Sinsull--the person who found that ring is gonna have lots of bad karma, as he seems to believe in that, for not trying to find the ring's rightful owner, or turning it over to the proper authorities. I hope you don't number this person among your friends. |
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02 Jun 08 - 11:32 AM (#2355213) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Paul Burke Watch your wallet when that bastard's around. I lost all respect for a former friend when we went to a kid's theme park, and her daughter found a purse, obviously a kid's, containing about 30 pounds. I suggested that she should hand it to the management (and get a receipt). No way- she encouraged her daughter to keep it, and no amount of appealing to her about the feelings of someone else's daughter who had lost it helped. |
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02 Jun 08 - 11:37 AM (#2355216) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: SINSULL I was all alone here in my shock at the finders keepers losers weepers attitude. The young man in question is such an upstanding Duddly Do Right guy that I didn't know what to think. I am very disappointed in him and he knows it. He is embarrassed as is everyone else. If I find an ad for the ring in the papers i will quietly give it to him and walk away. Part of me thought that maybe I was over reacting because of the theft of all my jewelry. I keep thinking of the young woman who has to tell her fiance that the ring is gone. Honestly, I hope it turns out to be worthless junk. |
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02 Jun 08 - 12:07 PM (#2355233) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: katlaughing Bad way to start an engagement, let alone a marriage. I seriously would print out those laws and give them to him. Those are from the State of Maine. Old and obscure, but still the law. |
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02 Jun 08 - 12:17 PM (#2355243) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Mrrzy Finders keepers, sure, but you should make a good-faith effort to return anything with sentimental value. One assumes anything worth any money has sentimental value. |
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02 Jun 08 - 12:22 PM (#2355249) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Peace Give it to the police. If they don't locate the owner within a certain period of time ownership will be transferred to the finder (I think). I have taken some bicycles to the police station. They call me three months later and I go down and assign ownership of the found bike to various organizations or kids who can't afford bikes. |
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02 Jun 08 - 12:34 PM (#2355262) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: artbrooks Ask him what he plans to do if his fiance has "her" ring recognized by its former owner. |
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02 Jun 08 - 12:43 PM (#2355272) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Stilly River Sage File a report in the paper that a ring was found, or call the police and tell them you know of a ring that was found and not turned in. See what happens. If you find money on the ground, small denominations, I don't think there is a problem with keeping it--unless you saw it fall you'll never know where it came from. But larger amounts (I won't try to define small vs large) should entail a trip to the police station. They are supposed to return the found item to the finder if it isn't claimed. If you ride the bus every day and find money at the bus stop, a general "did you lose anything yesterday" inquiry should happen, whether asking fellow riders or posting a note at the bus stop. There are lots of people who can't afford to lose even small amounts of cash or personal items. SRS |
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02 Jun 08 - 12:44 PM (#2355275) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: SINSULL I did mention that a diamond that size has a pedigree and if he tries to have it reset in a legitimate jewelry shop, he may find it confiscated. |
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02 Jun 08 - 12:49 PM (#2355279) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Leadfingers The guy is a Pillock Du Premier Cru , as an old mate of mine was wont to say ! |
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02 Jun 08 - 01:29 PM (#2355306) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: kendall Money is the most important thing in the world to this type of asswipe. I'm glad I don't know him. |
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02 Jun 08 - 01:49 PM (#2355327) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Ebbie Wow. What a way to begin a new life. Every time he sees that ring on her hand he will be reminded of his greed and perfidy. He has failed himself. |
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02 Jun 08 - 01:56 PM (#2355336) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Wesley S I think if the "finder" asks his fiance if she wants the ring under these circumstances he'll get his answer. "Gee honey - I FOUND this ring - and it didn't cost us anything at all. Wear it with pride!!" |
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02 Jun 08 - 02:01 PM (#2355346) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: GUEST,meself The guy's a scumbag. Period. |
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02 Jun 08 - 02:08 PM (#2355359) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Peace I read a while back about someone who found some bags of maney (Canada). He/she (you can see I didn't read it very closely) took it to the police who waited (I can't recall if it was three or six months). Anyway, no one claimed it. The money went to the finder. (I expect they thought there might be illegal dealings involved and that was why no one claimed it.) The folk got a chunk of change, free and clean. A diamond ring--if it is indeed diamond--can be real expensive. And I may have some seriously sentimental value to the person who lost it. It would be nice if the young man took it to the police. Oh, I found a Mercedes today. I can figure out why the doors were locked and there was no key in the ignition. However, it runs just fine. Signed, Jimmy the Finger |
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02 Jun 08 - 02:11 PM (#2355362) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: SINSULL He does not plan to give the ring to his fiance. They have chosen and ordered a ring. But he does plan to keep the found ring or sell it. We'll see. |
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02 Jun 08 - 02:12 PM (#2355363) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Bee-dubya-ell I worked for many years in retail stores where finding valuables dropped on the floor or left on the counter by customers was an almost daily occurence. It would have been easy to deny having found something when a customer returned to ask about it, but I never did. I figure I got more benefit from their gratitude than I would have gotten by lying and keeping the loot. If there's a Hell, I may go there, but it won't be for having kept some schmuck's dropped $50.00 bill or left-behind sunglasses. |
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02 Jun 08 - 02:37 PM (#2355385) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: katlaughing I don't suppose there's any appeal to his greed in the thought that someone might offer a reward, is there? My kids found a wallet with money in it, in the park one time. They took it to the police. When the owner got it back, they left a nice monetary reward for my kids. Good lesson. |
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02 Jun 08 - 02:46 PM (#2355397) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: GUEST,petr well, my wife lost her wedding ring on Hornby Island a couple of years ago, I sure would like to have it back. It had a first nations (Haida) engraving on it (Ivan Thompson). Its not worth a huge amount but a lot to us. |
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02 Jun 08 - 03:10 PM (#2355417) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: SINSULL The ring is gold; the diamond synthetic. Not worth much money-wise but who knows what it means to its owner. |
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02 Jun 08 - 03:19 PM (#2355424) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: gnu Does he get into to town from the backwoods hills very often? |
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02 Jun 08 - 03:28 PM (#2355432) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: GUEST,lox How's this ... And I am deadly serious ... First, sit down with yourself and decide whether you would particularly want a friend who would do this ... Then, if you decide that you wouldn't ... give him a choice ... hand the ring over to the cops or lose you. If he chooses to go with the ring, that presumably means he isn't any kind of friend ... In which case shop him to the cops. |
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02 Jun 08 - 03:38 PM (#2355441) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Stilly River Sage The price of gold has gone up so much that this ring could still have a fair value. SRS |
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02 Jun 08 - 03:48 PM (#2355451) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: catspaw49 It isn't really the price or value but simply the principle of the whole thing. In this fockin' jadrool we got the real thing in a broke-dick mamalucca and I'd tell him so. Spaw |
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02 Jun 08 - 03:51 PM (#2355454) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Hawker I wear a 1.3 carat solitaire diamond ring. The diamond itself was found around 100 years ago by my Father's Great Aunt, in a hotel bedroom in Torquay, England. She was a regular guest at the hotel and handed it in. the following visit, she was handed the diamond by the owner, who told her that the police had not had anyone claim it, they suspected that it was lost possibly by diamond thieves, but could prove nothing and it was now her property. It has been handed down through the family ever since as a good luck charm. Yous see if you REALLY believe in Karma, by offering it back, you are doing the RIGHT thing, and good will come to you.....Great Aunt Gertrude got the stone back and sunsequently had it set in a simple ring setting. By not handing the found ring in, your friend may well attract BAD karma and with all the bad thoughts we have all sent him, he is already building a tidal wave of negativity which will do hom NO GOOD at all. POX on him indeed, If I were his 'fiancee' I would dump him! Cheers, Lucy |
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02 Jun 08 - 04:32 PM (#2355485) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: kendall In this case, clearly the finder is also a loser. |
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02 Jun 08 - 04:54 PM (#2355509) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: jeffp Well said, Kendall. |
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02 Jun 08 - 05:14 PM (#2355538) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: SINSULL I am so disappointed with him and he knows it. |
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02 Jun 08 - 06:35 PM (#2355627) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Bobert Leave a Bible on his desk... |
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02 Jun 08 - 07:48 PM (#2355684) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: kendall Or some of the 10 commandments.... "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's ass... |
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02 Jun 08 - 10:46 PM (#2355812) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: TRUBRIT What a sad thing -- how can he live with himself knowing if he does this, someone out there will do something similar to him, or his kids.....it sounds so corny but if you treat everyone as you would like to be treated, I think you cannot go far wrong....... |
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03 Jun 08 - 08:35 AM (#2356089) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Bonnie Shaljean Has anybody actually told his fiancée - who has (or soon will have) a meaningful ring of her own to treasure - that he has done this? Has he said anything about it to her or is he ashamed to? (Or pretending he has - you can't trust a thief not to also lie about this.) Or: does she approve? It would be interesting to see his reaction if you "threaten" (even jokingly) to tell her. |
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03 Jun 08 - 10:26 AM (#2356172) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Liz the Squeak Kendall, I don't think it's her ass he's coveting.... LTS |
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03 Jun 08 - 11:34 AM (#2356226) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Bee Chiming in with 'the guy's a loser and has the morals of a thief'. And I don't need a Bible to tell me it's wrong to keep something that doesn't belong to you. It is understandable to covet something valuable that you have found, but thinking of how the person who lost it might feel should encourage any decent person to hand the item in right away. It doesn't matter how small it is, either. The worst-feeling theft I experienced in my life was only twelve dollars, but in the situation I was in at the time, that twelve dollars was as meaningful as twelve hundred. I went hungry because of that theft. |
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03 Jun 08 - 05:28 PM (#2356616) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Stilly River Sage Do you suppose this new Mudcatter "Fruitloopz" will read this thread and understand it? In case not, or in case the rest didn't see it, this fellow claims to have found the lost property of Zantzinger, the same fellow in Dylan's song. That thread was closed after he gushed that he just couldn't stand to return the camera, that he wanted to splash Zantzinger's life all over because of what he'd done. Fruitloopz isn't the judge or jury in this, he found an identifiable item, contacted the owner, so to withhold it is patently dishonest. Dylan did his artistic best to bring this matter to light, he won't want the camera. To smear photos of Zantzinger's family across the web could possibly be criminal--copyright rests with the person who took the photos and even if they went missing, you know who took them and you don't have his permission to use them, let alone make a mockery of the rest of his family for your delight. At least the schmuck who found the ring and won't report it is just your garden variety low-life. Let's hope if this is all that this guy has to offer Mudcat that he's a two-post wonder and goodbye. SRS |
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03 Jun 08 - 05:41 PM (#2356632) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: GUEST,Chief Chaos This guy is definitely worng for oh so many reasons! I once found a little girl's plastic purse while walking along the park (on the Potomac). Knowing that the park police would be too busy for something so minor and that the parents might not have the time to come back and look for it, I managed to track down the possible owner and phoned her to ask where it should be returned. There were a few little items that might be precious to a little girl but otherwise it was empty. I asked the mother's permission and filled it with lollipops and other candy that we keep in the office for our cravings. I didn't hear back from the mother but I can picture the little girl getting her purse back and finding it filled with candy. That is more rewarding than anything monitary that I can think of. |
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03 Jun 08 - 06:41 PM (#2356682) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Bonnie Shaljean Wish they were all as nice as you, Chief. My grandmother had an antique gold family-heirloom wristwatch which she always wore - it was not absurdly valuable except for sentimental reasons because of its age and history. One day she went out to the shops and the watchband must have broken or something because she came home without it, but it was some time before she noticed her bare wrist. She had a pretty good idea where she'd lost it, so she contacted the shop and put a classified ad in the local paper offering a reward and giving her phone number. Sure enough, before long the phone rang. It was the person who had found her watch, and from the detailed description she knew the call was genuine. He wanted to know how much she was offering as a reward so she told him the figure and there was a moment's silence. Then he said, "Forget it. I can get more than that for this watch so I'm keeping it" and he hung up in her ear, without even giving her a chance to up the offer. She never saw her heirloom watch again. Losers weepers indeed. For the whole family. |
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03 Jun 08 - 07:14 PM (#2356696) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: The Fooles Troupe I think the name "Fruitloopz" says it all. |
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03 Jun 08 - 07:55 PM (#2356718) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Slag When I was about 10 years old I found a twenty dollar bill. Wow! I was one rich kid. I spent it in riotous living and luxury. Money was no object. When I finally told my parent the source of my new found wealth they asked me if I thought it was right, what I did. Why sure I responded. They then pointed out that that may have been some one's only money for the week, money that someone needed and depended on but if I thought it was right, well OK. What ever I spent that money on is gone and long forgotten but I have a memory of guilt and regret. I'm not sure, I never asked but I think my folks tried to find the loser of the money. I never kept another thing of any great value that I have found since without making a good faith effort to find the owner. I have returned wallets, a few, and other items. One day of revelry, forty years of remembering but a good lesson in the event. Common decency, self respect and the law all agree that every reasonable effort should be made to return a found item of worth. When you hand someone back their personal information, photos and money or a precious keepsake such as a ring what a great reward just to see worry vanish from their face and gratitude replace it. You can't buy that! |
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03 Jun 08 - 08:20 PM (#2356730) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: meself Isn't anyone going to come onto this thread and rationalize the keeping of the ring, and give us a big lecture on what a self-righteous bunch of hypocrites we all are? ... What is Mudcat coming to?! |
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03 Jun 08 - 08:32 PM (#2356738) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Peace OK. It's a tough job BUT, someone's gotta do it. FIRST, I want some jujubes. |
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03 Jun 08 - 10:12 PM (#2356804) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: SINSULL Actually this thread is a relief to me. No one in my office agreed with me - in fact they find it funny I was so upset. I do tend to overthink things and thought maybe I was off base but I didn't honestly see how. Thank you for restoring my faith in human nature. And someone give that man a JuJube. |
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03 Jun 08 - 10:36 PM (#2356818) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Stilly River Sage I will say that I disagreed with a family friend who made my daughter turn in a $10 bill she found in a parking lot at an arcade restaurant establishment. It was exciting for my daughter but the friend made no provision for her to claim it if no one asked, and it most certainly became a windfall for the employee who took it from her. That friend is a bit of a ditz, so it simply didn't occur to her, but for a small child, the thing should have been thought out a little better. SRS |
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03 Jun 08 - 10:54 PM (#2356831) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: maeve Sinsull dear, you absolutely are thinking straight. By pointing out the poor choice your friend has made you are being a real friend. And I'd give that Peace person a Jujube, but that request is a red herring; he secretly craves a skelp, and that's Megan's department. |
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04 Jun 08 - 03:19 AM (#2356917) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: GUEST,dianavan Bonnie has a point. The bride to be should be told. She has a right to know the kind of guy she is marrying. This gets down to basic honesty and integrity. |
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04 Jun 08 - 04:23 AM (#2356950) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Paul Burke She has a right to know the kind of guy she is marrying I suspect she's probably cut from the same cloth. They'll go far together. |
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04 Jun 08 - 09:17 AM (#2357118) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: The Fooles Troupe Hmmm,I can't help thinking "One Ring to bind the pair"... |
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04 Jun 08 - 11:51 AM (#2357274) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Stilly River Sage I suspect that taking this farther than the discussion going on in the office is too far. He has to live with himself, he hasn't murdered someone, the stone is apparently faux, life will go on. Enough time has been spent mulling this lapse in judgement. SRS |
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04 Jun 08 - 05:30 PM (#2357562) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: GUEST,Chief Chaos I'm not exactly sure of the sense of trying to return money in small denominations or any singular amount of money unless it was part of the contents of another package. Unless that owner is plainly obvious. How do you actually determine the rightful owner of something that almost everyone would have on them from day to day? Ask them for the serial number? I can see it for a large amount that the authorities could then ask the person exactly how much they lost but after working at the mall I know people that will come to lost and found every few days and ask if a ten, twenty, etc. was found. I also find the instance of the authorities charging the finding party who honestly turned something in a percentage to claim it after the owner failed to do so pretty crappy! |
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04 Jun 08 - 05:52 PM (#2357588) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Slag If the amount of money is nondescript you don't announce the amount or the location, just that money was found. The police usually handle this aspect of the search. If it is a common bill, like a twenty (then) or maybe a hundred (now) you wait for someone to come seeking. If no one seeks it out then it may be an amount they didn't mind losing or perhaps the don't have the imagination to consider that the police may have it. At any rate you have taken reasonable steps to locate the owner. No more can be asked of you than that. |
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04 Jun 08 - 11:41 PM (#2357867) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: TRUBRIT Sins -- I am shocked about the office's reaction -- what a bummer -- I still believe heart and soul in karma - what goes around, comes around..... |
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05 Jun 08 - 08:57 AM (#2358187) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: GUEST,caitlín Ever think of showing him this thread? |
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05 Jun 08 - 11:11 AM (#2358284) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Stilly River Sage And have him discover Mudcat? That would be casting pearls before swine. . . |
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05 Jun 08 - 01:15 PM (#2358445) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: GUEST,caitlín Hmmmm yeah, I see your point. Pearls. Worth a bit. He might keep them. |
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05 Jun 08 - 07:41 PM (#2358872) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Jim Dixon While I don't approve of automatically keeping something so valuable, I wouldn't necessarily recommend handing it over to the police. I once found some tools on my property that didn't belong to me. I remember there was an electric hedge trimmer, a boom box, a pair of gloves, and I don't remember what else. They were spattered with flecks of paint, which made me think they probably belonged to a house painter or handyman. I suspected they had been stolen off a truck or off a work site and then abandoned by the thief who either didn't want them or got scared while trying to carry them away. I figured, even if the stuff wasn't very valuable, it might be useful as evidence. I wanted to do the right thing, so I called police. When they came to pick up the stuff, I could tell by the careless way they handled it that they weren't planning to dust it for fingerprints. (I had been careful not to touch it myself.) I asked what would happen if nobody claimed it. They said the stuff would be auctioned off and the money would go to the police retirement fund! They didn't even give me a receipt! I was rather disgusted. I could have used that hedge trimmer! |
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05 Jun 08 - 07:46 PM (#2358876) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Jim Dixon Wait a minute. There's another possibility that never occurred to me till now. Maybe the stuff was worthless junk that the owner wanted to get rid of! I never turned on the boom box, or plugged in the hedge trimmer, so I'll never know! |
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06 Jun 08 - 07:09 PM (#2359706) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: meself Once I found an accordian on my property ... |
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12 Jan 09 - 12:01 PM (#2537987) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: SINSULL Well, my house guests have outdone themselves this time. While straightening up the post-holiday mess, I found a laptop in a back pack (along with a rough amethyst crystal and a stale cinnamon bun). How could anyone be without a laptop for over a week and not notice? Anyway - who belongs to this thing? I still haven't mailed out the leavings from the Gordon Bok concert. SIGH |
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12 Jan 09 - 12:26 PM (#2538005) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Bill D dibs on the cinnamon bun! |
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12 Jan 09 - 01:00 PM (#2538043) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: SINSULL Too late - I tossed it. Wonder what Apple laptops are going for on ebay? How long do I have to wait before it's mine? |
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12 Jan 09 - 01:08 PM (#2538051) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Jeri I think the laptop's mine. You can keep the crystal. |
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12 Jan 09 - 02:07 PM (#2538120) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: SINSULL I think you're full of crap. |
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12 Jan 09 - 02:28 PM (#2538148) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: meself Jeesh - how many "houseguests" did you have? How big is your house, anyway? What was going on? And most importantly - why wasn't I invited? |
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12 Jan 09 - 02:38 PM (#2538155) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: SINSULL They have been coming and going like a bad case of fleas for two months now. The last left on Wednesday. But no one is missing a laptop. Go figure. Consider yourself invited, meself. Clean towels are in a bin at the bottom of the stairs. Two house rules: 1. The cats can do anything. READ THIS CAREFULLY. I really don't care if Alice peed on your suitcase. You were warned. 2. I do not snore. Maybe this laptop is my SecretSanta gift??? But why a Mac? |
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12 Jan 09 - 02:43 PM (#2538160) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: catspaw49 Or to quote Chico Marx: "Why a duck? Why a no chicken?" Spaw |
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12 Jan 09 - 03:28 PM (#2538206) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Jeri So Mary says, 'I think you're full of crap.' I'm WOUNDED to the very soul!!! Seriously, where did you find it and when. It might not have been that recent. I'd try to guess who might be Mac geek and like amethyst and backpacks, but I don't know. ClaireBear, Lisa Null, Cindy/Grey, Peter/Joanne. If a persons moving around a lot, they might not notice the computer's gone or they might not know where they lost it or they might think it had been stolen elsewere. Or maybe Alice peed on it. |
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12 Jan 09 - 03:40 PM (#2538221) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: SINSULL I do clean occasionally, Jeri. All of the furniture was moved for the Gordon Bok concert and later returned to its proper place. So the laptop arrived during the ice storm at the earliest. HARUMPH! Everyone has been heard from except Becca. Hopefully it is hers. Otherwise, I am rally confused - but that's par for the course. M |
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12 Jan 09 - 04:36 PM (#2538302) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Liz the Squeak You mean Micca DIDN'T leave anything this time?! Blimey, that's a first! LTS |
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12 Jan 09 - 04:43 PM (#2538309) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: SINSULL You're joking, right? He left a fleece coat at my house and some other stuff at Jacqui's (formerly, Kendall's house lol). I haven't been upstairs yet. But he also left a bottle of Taittinger's, some incredible single malts and a warm glow. Wonder if he took his shoes??????? |
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12 Jan 09 - 05:05 PM (#2538334) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Jeri Mary, if you turn the computer on, you may be able to access stuff like an e-mail account or other personal things. It's like looking in a wallet to find out whose it is. Just leave their porn alone. |
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12 Jan 09 - 08:01 PM (#2538469) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: SINSULL The mystery may be solved and when I get my hands on the addle-headed guest who picked up someone else's luggage at the bus terminal... I emptied the case and found some receipts. A bit of Googling turned up the owner who (unbelievable) is a folkie fiddler. I can only pray he doesn't have me arrested for stealing the damn thing. You guys are a lot of work! |
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12 Jan 09 - 08:25 PM (#2538489) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: SINSULL Update - it was stolen from a local restaurant by that ne'er do well....Tami! Innocent eyes - HAH! |
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12 Jan 09 - 08:55 PM (#2538499) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Jeri So it was stolen from a bus station then stolen from a restaurant by Tami? Did she steal it from the thief or did somebody just forget it? Need the whole sordid story, before lawyers get involved. |
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12 Jan 09 - 09:51 PM (#2538536) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Alice Related to the whole issue of having a laptop lost or stolen... I signed up for a free account at Mozy www.mozy.com and regularly backup my files to mozy, because I work and travel with a laptop. One of the testimonials on Mozy.com is from a man who had his laptop stolen. Because he used Mozy, he could access his account there online and saw that his laptop was being used by the people who stole it and the files were being auto-saved at mozy, so he was able to identify and find who was using his computer. He turned the info over to the police and got his computer back. Whether your computer crashes or is lost, having mozy to backup files is great. The home version is free. |
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12 Jan 09 - 11:09 PM (#2538569) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: meself "READ THIS CAREFULLY. I really don't care if Alice peed on your suitcase. You were warned." Alice is a cat - right? |
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12 Jan 09 - 11:20 PM (#2538576) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: catspaw49 No, Alice is Alice (Flynn) from Montana........As the result of a monstrous urinary tract infection, Alice lost any ability to control her whizz and now accidentally wets down any object lying about. On a visit to the White House, she turned the Blue Room yellow. She cannot be trusted for more than a brief moment before she soaks down your favorite slippers which you were wearing at the time. Spaw |
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12 Jan 09 - 11:50 PM (#2538589) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: ranger1 I go out of state to visit the relatives and peek in on Mudcat and what do I find? False accusations smearing my good name! As if I would stoop to stealing a laptop, especially an apple product at that! Hmph! See if I ever give you a nice Christmas present ever again! |
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12 Jan 09 - 11:50 PM (#2538590) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: katlaughing Oh, Spaw, I think Alice in MT is pickier about where she actually pees and I don't think she has a thing for suitcases at all!*bg* |
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13 Jan 09 - 07:37 AM (#2538650) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Bryn Pugh I wasn't going to comment on the "finder's" character - most of you have done so already. However - I am very superstitious about rings. I would never try on someone else's ring, and I would never let anyone else try my rings on. This will only bring him wafeti bokt. What kind of piker would give the ring of another to his future missis, as an engagement ring ? It defies understanding, for me. In England & Wales (and for all I know, the other two Jurisdictions of the UK) this is stealing by finding, a section 1 Theft Act 1968 offence. Were the artefact to be handed over to the bogies - and a receipt obtained - then, if the ring were not claimed within a given period of time, ownership would vest in the finder. |
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13 Jan 09 - 08:28 AM (#2538676) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: SINSULL The young man kept thanking me for returning his computer. I feel lucky he didn't call the cops on me. Tami - you owe me big time. AND your Micca privileges are revoked. Apparently the three of you need a keeper. The world is upside down - I am now the voice of reason. SIGH! I could accept a luggage mix up at the bus terminal but picking up the kid's laptop at the Crooked Mile - something is very wrong there. Although I can see the three of you all babbling at once. You over poison ivy, Micca over wine. And Jacqui over the lack of proper tea. Just imagine if he had caught you on the way out the door with the laptop... Bryn, I feel the same way about jewelry. Most of mine was stolen. If it were ever returned I wouldn't want it. Jewelry, like instruments, take on a part of the user. Plus I put a curse on all of it. |
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13 Jan 09 - 05:03 PM (#2539111) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: ranger1 Sigh. I am not responsible for limeys who pick up other peoples' luggage in cafes, be they laptops or suitcases. And how the hell would I have noticed one more item amongst all the bags Micca had? He bought out the wine shop, fer cryin' out loud! |
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13 Jan 09 - 05:37 PM (#2539135) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: Jeri I just got a phone message from Mary about the laptop. Apparently the phone is having some sort of WTF-itis. I'm glad there was a happy ending and the guy got his laptop back. Tami, I have an idea. Will PM. |
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13 Jan 09 - 07:59 PM (#2539241) Subject: RE: BS: Finders Keepers Losers Weepers?? From: SINSULL And I got a hug from a big handsome 20 something. He was very grateful. You are all on double secret probation! |