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10 Jun 08 - 01:16 PM (#2362424) Subject: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: Georgiansilver I guess not everyone likes the practitioner of husbandry..so smear him here. |
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10 Jun 08 - 01:26 PM (#2362430) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: Megan L Living in the middle of a farming community that would be a silly pastime |
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10 Jun 08 - 01:27 PM (#2362434) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: Peace . . . then eat what? |
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10 Jun 08 - 01:31 PM (#2362437) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: Def Shepard Well kd lang did it with her Meat is Murder campaign some years back, she who was raised in Consort, Alberta, Canada, the heart of cattle country, in that part of the world. It's still incredibly silly though. |
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10 Jun 08 - 01:34 PM (#2362442) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: Peace I lived for three years about 50 km/30 mi east of Consort in the KAC community. Dryland agro there, and most of the people around were not POed at KD for that remark. Perhaps a bit disappointed, but not angry. |
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10 Jun 08 - 01:40 PM (#2362447) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: Def Shepard My niece, who now lives in British Columbia said the press made more of a fuss about what lang had said than did the locals. |
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10 Jun 08 - 01:45 PM (#2362451) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: John MacKenzie I hate Farmer Giles |
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10 Jun 08 - 01:50 PM (#2362455) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: Bee-dubya-ell Goddammed cropdusters flyin' over my house at treetop level at 6:30 AM! Haven't they ever heard of mufflers? |
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10 Jun 08 - 01:53 PM (#2362457) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: Peace That's true, Def Shepard. Contrary to stereotypes about farmers/farming people, it was my experience there that the folks just accepted people as they were. I expect they still do. I very seldom heard any disparaging remarks about her sexuality or the beef episode. One wag tied the two together (and, yes, it was funny) but he was having trouble with his combine and just pissed off at the world. The thing that was clear to me from listening to people talk was that even though KD was different in many way, "She's different, yes, but she's OURS." |
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10 Jun 08 - 01:56 PM (#2362460) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: Def Shepard Slightly off topic, but I kave her CD's Shadowlands and Hymns of the 49th Parallel. She is amazing, and Canada is rightly proud of her! |
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10 Jun 08 - 02:59 PM (#2362516) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: frogprince I grew up on the farm; at one time or another, I've had just about anything you could think of smeared on me, and some things you don't want to think of. |
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10 Jun 08 - 03:26 PM (#2362536) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: GUEST,Willy Nilly One can only imagine. :-p |
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10 Jun 08 - 03:45 PM (#2362548) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: akenaton The guy who started all our problems, was the one who planted the first seed! |
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10 Jun 08 - 06:21 PM (#2362687) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: Rapparee Anyone else ever preg checked a cow without using a sleeve? |
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10 Jun 08 - 06:34 PM (#2362707) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: Little Hawk Meat IS murder. You have to kill something to get it. It's that simple. Just calmly accept the fact that you ARE at least an accessory to a murder every time you eat meat, that's all you really have to do. ;-) It's a matter of adjusting your willingness to confront the full truth of your own existence, nothing more. Now, as for smearing farmers...well, Murray McLaughlin smeared ALL farmers for ALL time with that damned silly "Farmer Song" he wrote! (and it made him a bundle of money too) |
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10 Jun 08 - 06:42 PM (#2362719) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: Gurney Well, dairying kills rivers. Water extraction for irrigation of cattle food and then effluent run-off (Cows shit a LOT) ar polluting our rivers. Big business, and growing hugely, here in NZ. Just read a book about it. It has gone from 'Farmer Giles' to 'Astra International.' |
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10 Jun 08 - 06:46 PM (#2362725) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: Little Hawk Dairying kills people too. A daily diet that is heavy in milk and cheese is no good for most people's health, and it messes up most people's colons, because people's digestive systems were not designed to injest cow's milk on a daily basis. Matter of fact, only baby cows were designed for that purpose. |
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10 Jun 08 - 07:13 PM (#2362752) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: bobad Vegetables have feelings too. |
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10 Jun 08 - 07:21 PM (#2362757) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: Little Hawk No doubt. Like I said, you have to kill something to eat it. I think, though, that fruits are actually intended (by the host plant) to be picked and eaten...because that's how the plants get help in propagating themselves far and wide. And the same would be true, I think, of corn, beans, nuts, and a great variety of vegetables. They grow deliberately so they can and will be picked and eaten by various creatures, which helps spread their seeds around. Thus you are helping them fullfill their most cherised destiny when you pick their fruit and eat it. When you cut down a tree, however, you are ending its destiny. You are destroying it. That's the difference. |
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10 Jun 08 - 07:50 PM (#2362787) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: Gurney Again, LH, the natural resting state of wood is to be soil, so you could make a case that trees are 'users' too, as much as people are. Depends if you see yourself as a sheep or as a wolf, as soil or as tree. How do you like the cheek of those bloody vegetables, using you to carry their babies about! No better than mosquitoes, are they! Well, yes. It is a symbiotic relationship, but mutually beneficent. And the natural resting state of motor cars is to be a lump of rust in the ground. My car is trying to get back there, all the time. I keep telling my customers this, to encourage them to paint their houses. It doesn't work, but it salves my conscience. Will vegetarian's/vegan's eyes, in the fullness of time, migrate around to the side of their heads rather than staying at the front to give binocular vision? It seems that most earthlings divide ito two groups, eyes front=predators, eyes side=herbivores. Thank you for reading my ramblings, product of a mind that is trying to avoid work. |
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10 Jun 08 - 08:11 PM (#2362803) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: Ed T The smell of liquid manure spread out over a field in springtime is a rural delight. |
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10 Jun 08 - 09:32 PM (#2362843) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: Rapparee Everything dies so that something else can live. Here's a nice poem about it: Reincarnation by Wallace McRae What is reincarnation? A cowboy asked his friend. It starts, his old pal told him, when your life comes to an end. They wash your neck and comb your hair and clean your fingernails, And put you in a padded box away from life's travails. The box and you goes in a hole that's been dug in the ground. Reincarnation starts in when you're planted neath that mound. Them clods melt down, just like the box, and you who is inside. And that's when you begin your transformation ride. And in a while the grass will grow upon your rendered mound, Until some day, upon that spot, a lonely flower is found. And then a horse may wander by and graze upon that flower That once was you, and now has become your vegetated bower. Now, the flower that the horse done eat, along with his other feed, Makes bone and fat and muscle essential to the steed. But there's a part that he can't use and so it passes through. And there it lies upon the ground, this thing that once was you. And if perchance, I should pass by and see this on the ground, I'll stop awhile and ponder at this object that I've found. I'll think about Reincarnation and life and death and such, And come away concludin', why, you ain't changed all that much. |
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11 Jun 08 - 04:10 AM (#2362985) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: GUEST,Cats I live next to a farm, in a hamlet of 8 houses and 2 farms. They are wonderful people. One lot of milk goes to Davidstow for cheese and the other to make Tickler cheese. Try them. Not only that but it is these people who have wholeheartedly taken on wassailing and crying the neck to revive them in our village. It was their idea to celebrate harvest after we had had 2 incredibly successful wassails at our house and them that asked for the wassail to be extended to their farms as well. This year they want us to sing carols in the lane and visit the farms. They are bringing their children up to realise that wassailing and crying the neck are both firmly rooted in their own lives and are a big and important part of farming life. They will make sure these traditions continue. With them as custodians of the future, I can put up with a bit of muck in the lane and the odd cow coming to visit. |
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11 Jun 08 - 04:40 AM (#2363005) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: Polite Guest GREAT poem, Rapaire. Davidstow Cheddar is very popular around here, Cats. Lovely taste. Good to hear about the wassailing too. Maybe they should get into making a scrumptious Wassail brew to go with their cheeses? |
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12 Jun 08 - 01:16 PM (#2364329) Subject: RE: BS: smear a Farmer..here. From: frogprince I've never forgotten one occasion on which I got smeared. I was just stepping into the barn when a calf with diarrhea had a coughing spell. I was plastered all over, including my face. It looked just like butterscotch pudding, but it wan't the same. |