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Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists

11 Jun 08 - 09:24 AM (#2363156)
Subject: Almost forgotten 70s & 80s Folk Artists
From: Bernard Quenby

Some folk artists seem to have been around for ever! What happened to some of the good ones from the 70s and 80s who just disappeared? Who impressed you?

Bernard


11 Jun 08 - 09:48 AM (#2363180)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko

There were so many. The Fast Folk scene here in the NYC area spawned some incredible songwriters, but I think many of them were trying to reach a level that just wasn't attainable. It seemed like an attempt to recreate the 60's folk revival but the world had moved on. When a few artists were signed by major labels (Suzanne Vega and Shawn Colvin for example), the rest seemed to be waiting their turn. When it did not happen, some just gave up.   There are a number that still carry on and continue to perform and create exceptional music, but those are the ones who learned what the music scene was all about and they have carved their niche.

I'd rather not post any names. I'm just amazed that some of these artists did not reach more ears, and I am very sorry that some of them just disappeared.


11 Jun 08 - 03:38 PM (#2363526)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST

Well, there was...you know...whatsisname.


11 Jun 08 - 06:48 PM (#2363765)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: oldhippie

One of the best, IMO, who really hasn't disappeared, just changed his focus, is Charlie King.


11 Jun 08 - 07:10 PM (#2363788)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Rabbi-Sol

Paul Kaplan has just started entertaining again after a long hiatus.
His agent recently contacted me about playing our house concert series.

Another fine singer whom I miss is Carla Sciacky. She seems to have dropped out of the folk scene altogether.

SOL


11 Jun 08 - 11:54 PM (#2363924)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Phil Cooper

Carla is still in Colorado. She's still performing some. I know she has a myspace presence because she signed on as one of our friends.


12 Jun 08 - 06:37 AM (#2364057)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST,Jim Knowledge

I `ad that almost forgotten folk singer in my cab the `uvver day, Randy--er--oh--What`sisname? I`d nearly forgottem `im but remembered just in time to charge `im the fare when `e got out!!
Wot am I like??


12 Jun 08 - 06:50 AM (#2364067)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: trevek

Fiddler's Dram!


12 Jun 08 - 06:59 AM (#2364071)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Bernard Quenby

Trevek - as I'm sure you know, most of whom went on to become The Oyster Band, and still going strong!


12 Jun 08 - 07:02 AM (#2364074)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Acorn4

Miles Wootton was a name I remember as a great writer - he was never one to seek the limelight but I gather on the grapevine that he's still going strong, and people still sing his material.


12 Jun 08 - 07:35 AM (#2364095)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: trevek

Bernard, I'd forgotten that!


12 Jun 08 - 09:33 AM (#2364171)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Dave Hanson

The bloke with the glasses on the telly.

eric


12 Jun 08 - 09:57 AM (#2364190)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Big Al Whittle

Just round brum, we had Andy Dwyer, Steve Adams, Frank Crow, Nick Fenwick, Bob and Sue Lapworth and Les Noden........


13 Jun 08 - 04:05 AM (#2364822)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST

Paul Metsers, Dave Walters - where did they go?


13 Jun 08 - 04:14 AM (#2364826)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: old salty

Yeah,Guest, Paul is one of my favourites too. He is still about, i heard from him a couple of years ago.Living in kendal, working with wood, i dont think he is singing much, but can't be certain. There was some thought about him putting a c d together of his best songs, but i dont know if it happened.      salty   X


13 Jun 08 - 04:21 AM (#2364830)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST

Salty, I think he was one of the best - hope the CD happens!


13 Jun 08 - 04:23 AM (#2364832)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: old salty

Me too , i'll do abit of digging!


13 Jun 08 - 04:29 AM (#2364834)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: old salty

Guest , Paul has an upto date page on my space, seems he in the process of getting the c d sorted. Nice songs on there!
                                       salty X


13 Jun 08 - 09:28 AM (#2364970)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Acorn4

Paul's myspace page - you still hear his songs performed around clubs - he used to stay with us in Leicester when he was on tour.

Paul Mesters on Myspace


16 Jun 08 - 03:21 AM (#2366715)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST

Used to be a guy called Don Minifie performed in Kent area - excellent songwriter/dulcimer player. Disappeared without trace.


16 Jun 08 - 03:12 PM (#2367172)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST

In the early 70s around Toronto, there were a couple of American guys, Stu Mitchell and Jerome Smith, who were buskers and club-players. They were great interpreters and songwriters. Wherever the are, I wish them well.


16 Jun 08 - 05:29 PM (#2367322)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: lefthanded guitar

I keep trying to remember the name of this guy, had his album but it was waterlogged & smooshed in a basement flood alas:

Pearl River Turnaround- went something like "only six miles to the Pearl River Turnaround, never very far in the sun or the snow"

wonderfully witty and clever songwriter. Um , lessee, he also did a story about
Sally Cooking Fat, a cat who thought he was man, but based on some political figure. Had this terrific album out in the seventies, I think he hailed from New England but not sure.

ARggggg, now he's even forgotten by ME but I loved his music..Stike a bell mudcatters???

ALSO wherever is the talented:

Frasier and Debolt

and even more talented

Murray McLaughlin?? A great loss not to hear them again.

Ditto about Fast Folk btw, almost every act they booked was a gem. Too bad they closed.


19 Jun 08 - 03:25 AM (#2369597)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST,MandoLyn

Spredthick!!


19 Jun 08 - 11:33 AM (#2369870)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST

For Lefthanded guitar,

Pearl River Turnaround and Sally Cookingfat were by Chris Rawlings. He's still around. I saw him last summer at Branches & Roots in Ormstown playing new material.

Fraser & DeBolt broke up decades ago. Daisy DeBolt still releases new music on her own label and Allan Fraser pops up occasionally at folk events in Montreal. His daughter, Kaya Fraser, is quite a good singer-songwriter.

Murray McLauchlan is still quite actove as a performer, recording artist and playwright.


19 Jun 08 - 04:39 PM (#2370208)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: folkypaul

weelittledrummer

Didn't Nick Fenwick play with a trio that included Mick Elliot & Ed Pickford (a great songwriter)who ran a folk Club in Sunderland called the Nickolodeon.

Folkypaul


19 Jun 08 - 04:48 PM (#2370215)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Houston_Diamond

I don't know if you classify him as folk but I've always loved Jim Croce. I Got A Name, I Have To Say I Love You In A Song, Bad Leroy Brown such a great range of songs.

He died shortly after I was born, but I love his voice and his style of song writing.

Houston


19 Jun 08 - 04:55 PM (#2370222)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: bobad

For lefthanded guitar:

Chris Rawlings will be accompanying Garnet Rogers at the Apple Hollow Music Fest this summer.


19 Jun 08 - 04:56 PM (#2370223)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Houston_Diamond

Just saw this on youtube and had to put it on here, I've never heard the story behind the song Bad, Bad Leroy Brown.


19 Jun 08 - 05:19 PM (#2370235)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Betsy

Folkypaul the group was called Northern Front and they were indeed very good.


19 Jun 08 - 05:21 PM (#2370237)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST,goosey

keith christmas


19 Jun 08 - 06:36 PM (#2370274)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Forsh

Almos Forgotten? Strange concept :)
I can't remember the ones I forgot! I got into folk in the 70's, & grew into it watching Martyn Carthy, Martyn Wyndham Read, Ewan McCol & Peggy Seager, Vin Garbutt, Jeremy Taylor, Joe Stead, Downes & Beer, Hamish Imlach, Oh, and my old man Alan Forshaw (Rumbylowe)...
Quality Lasts, eh? Paul Downes & Jeremy Taylor will be at Clennell Hall Folk Fest 2009, as will Joe Stead with Kimber's Men. Twill be a great fest for all ye olde folkies!


19 Jun 08 - 06:51 PM (#2370283)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Bill H //\\

Carla Sciaky---what a delight to see that name again. Years back she was a guest on the program with me (TRADITIONS) and I just loved her lilting voice.   

My understanding was that she still performes locally as a solo artists and also with a group.

Her label was called Propinquity--and from that we did a little trivia contest on the program---what does it mean?   Had only about 2 or 3 correct answers, as I recal.l

Bill Hahn


19 Jun 08 - 09:44 PM (#2370383)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST

"Chris Rawlings will be accompanying Garnet Rogers at the Apple Hollow Music Fest this summer."

According to the Apple Hollow website, it's Chris Crilly, not Chris Rawlings, who will be playing with Garnet Rogers.


19 Jun 08 - 10:38 PM (#2370401)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: bobad

Yikes, I knew that, momentary cranial malfunction, sorry.


24 Jun 08 - 06:10 PM (#2373580)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Acorn4

Here's a blast from the past:-

BOB LIND -what became of him?

He was the one who recorded "Elusive Butterfly" - his debut album was, I seem to remember, very good and showed a lot of potential but he seemed to vanish withour trace. Rather like a more cheerful Leonard Cohen.

Perhaps he never recovered from having "Butterfly" covered by Val Doonican!

Interesting if anyone had any info on him.


24 Jun 08 - 07:33 PM (#2373639)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Leadfingers

Guest mandolyn mentioned Spredthick - Simon and Hilary are still around - Check the Mandolinquents !!


25 Jun 08 - 03:04 AM (#2373801)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Dave Sutherland

What happened to the Matthews Brothers?


25 Jun 08 - 04:05 AM (#2373813)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST,Betsy at Work.

Aye !!! - Larry and Terry - a great duo.


26 Jun 08 - 04:07 AM (#2374606)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Bernard Quenby

Leadfingers, I didn't know about the Mandolinquents - thanks!


26 Jun 08 - 06:53 AM (#2374656)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Big Al Whittle

Nick Fenwick's band , I think, were Mad Jocks and englishmen. Nick was a very funny man. Rather quiet and circumspect offstage, as I remember.

My favourite from that period was Brownsville Banned. The greatest live act.....There was a sort of Bolton mafia - bob Williamson, Bernard the Knocking Nelly bloke whose name has slipped into my personal abyss, and brownsville. they were photographed together on Bob's first album. Bob's album was of course on the Sweet Folk and country label run by Joe Stead. their label mates were Downes and Beer and Dave Turner. Dave was more alternative than anybody I ever met.

Nina of Hand on Heart had a decent band at the time called Blackthorn. I saw Brownsville at Nina's club a few times.

there were a lot of great acts: Roger Brooks, The Maccalmans, Ian Campbell's final group with Aiden Foord, etc

so it goes, as Kurt Vonnegut said!


26 Jun 08 - 07:02 AM (#2374661)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST,guest baz parkes

WLD...that Bernard'll be Wrigley. Still working as far as I know...although my favourite Wrigley moment is as the harrassed Geography teacher in Rita, Sue and Bob Too. I eem to recall agorilla suit and Coronation Street, but that might be my personal abyss.

While we're on the subject...Frogmorton?

Baz


26 Jun 08 - 08:44 AM (#2374711)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST,Jacqui Noden

My "inferior half" Les Noden is still alive,kicking, singing and playing guitar and concertina around the South West(based in Brixham)and anywhere else that would like to hear him


26 Jun 08 - 02:51 PM (#2374992)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Judy Dyble

Keith Christmas is still working regularly, I had a natter to him a couple of errrr Christmases ago and he was very well

Keith Christmas


26 Jun 08 - 02:57 PM (#2374995)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Big Al Whittle

Yes indeed, Keith Christmas did a guitar workshop and gave a concert at Grantham Folk Festival about two weeks ago.

i was there.


26 Jun 08 - 03:09 PM (#2375001)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: irishenglish

Well..they were only members of a group, but what happened to Martin Hadden and...what was the other guys name-Gordon? from Silly Wizard? Andy M Stewart is still around obviously, as well as Phil. Johnny....still missed.


26 Jun 08 - 04:23 PM (#2375077)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: yarn

What as happened to Pat Ryan? Can Some body please persuade her to start to sing again. Come on Pat we all miss you.


26 Jun 08 - 07:51 PM (#2375205)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: oldhippie

Bob Lind is still around, check BobLind.com


26 Jun 08 - 10:42 PM (#2375287)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Beer

How about a group called "The Rockin Rockets" out of Nova Scotia.
Beer (adrien)


26 Jun 08 - 10:52 PM (#2375291)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Beer

Brent Titcomb impressed me.


27 Jun 08 - 04:59 AM (#2375391)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST

Regal Slip?


11 Feb 09 - 12:48 AM (#2563490)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST,Mark Craft

Regarding the following message

"Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jun 08 - 03:12 PM

In the early 70s around Toronto, there were a couple of American guys, Stu Mitchell and Jerome Smith, who were buskers and club-players. They were great interpreters and songwriters. Wherever the are, I wish them well."
-end previous message-

I just digitalized a tape I made of a live recording by Mitchell and Smith (in about 1973). It would be great to get in touch with them, if anyone know how.

Also, if you liked their music I'd be glad to share a couple of MP3 with you.

mcraft@planetorganic.ca


11 Feb 09 - 04:23 PM (#2564272)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego

Houston, etc.:

Jim Croce's widow, Ingrid, has run a jazz and dinner club called "Croce's" in San Diego's Gaslamp District for many years. Their son, A.J., has his own band and has played nationally for some time. He counts his dad among his influences, along with Mose Allison, among others. They had moved here not long before Jim died in the aircraft accident and had planned to put down roots. We're all glad she stayed.


11 Feb 09 - 04:36 PM (#2564289)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: bankley

there were several Francophone singers and a few Anglo singers working in French who got their start in that decade in Quebec.. Most of them all did well with their careers and moved into other related activities...

some who I remember, most I knew

Richard and Marie Claire Seguin

Paul Piche

Harmonium (the early years with Fiori, Normandeau and Valois)

Jim and Bertrand (Jim Corcoran has a weekly show on CBC Radio One
playing different Quebecois artists to an Anglo audience)

Plume Latraverse ( a mouton noir )

Stephen 'Cassonade' Faulkner (un cowboy a Paris)

Michel Rivard (some of his solo work outside Beau Dommage as well as Pierre Bertrand)

Jeff Lamott

Les Soeurs McGarrigles

I'm sure that I've missed some.... but there was a lot of music and new artists emerging hot on the heels of the 60's.. which gave us Vigneault, Leclerc, Charlebois, Julien, Butler, Jean Carignan and it keeps going way back....to La Bolduc and beyond to les rigadons, gigues, chanson repondres et plaintes.....

a lot of culture and history


11 Feb 09 - 04:54 PM (#2564306)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: olddude

Does anyone know of a girl on the coffee house circuit in the 70's named Mary Smith ... she was from Flint Michigan

My goodness what she great ... amazing singer, song writer and guitarist.   

She was amazing, I haven't heard of her since


11 Feb 09 - 04:56 PM (#2564309)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: pdalessa

Is Karla Bonoff still singing - I saw her at the Old Town School of Folk Music (Chicago) in the 70s?


12 Feb 09 - 11:31 AM (#2564975)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: lefthanded guitar

A very (VERY) belated thank you to those who let me know the name Chris Rawlings. I will start an internet search to see if he's still playing- a vastly underrated songwriter.


12 Feb 09 - 11:44 AM (#2564992)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Beer

Chris is still playing and doing very well. He played in a festival I help run a few years back. He lives about 2 hours from me.
Beer
(adrien)
Oh! I live in Quebec.


12 Feb 09 - 11:55 AM (#2565004)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Beer

Here is a 2007 picture of Chris Crilly on the left (a professional in all respect)and Chris Rawlings on the right.

http://picasaweb.google.com/adrien.doucette5/Festival2007?authkey=F8JlclGjnr0#


12 Feb 09 - 03:38 PM (#2565246)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: C. Ham

Sometime back in the 70s at the Golem in Montreal I saw Chris Rawlings perform his musical setting of Coleridge's "Rime of the Ancient Mariner." I think it took about a full hour, without a pause, to perform. Amazing.


13 Feb 09 - 08:09 AM (#2565809)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: rich-joy

re June 26 and 27 posts :

Martin Hadden did a couple of British-American folkfusion LPs as "Hadden, Rothsfield & Carr" - he had a beautiful singing voice in the way of Rod Patterson (of Jock Tamson's Bairns/Easy Club) or Archie Fisher, for example. We really should've heard more of it!!!

Regal Slip - Graham & Eileen Pratt returned to recording some time ago and Ron Taylor, who also has a beautiful singing voice, made a CD with Jeff Gillett on Wildgoose label, still available.

Cheers, R-J


13 Feb 09 - 11:51 AM (#2566023)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: meself

Saw Chris Rawlings play with Gilles Lossier (and Andy Vine?) at Ginger's in Halifax - afterward, upstairs in his room, Chris showed me the chords for The Blackfly Song (Wade Hemsworth). He probably wrote out the lyrics for me as well. Nice guy! He had a great song called, "Soup du Jour", which I believe was the title of his (vinyl) album.

Speaking of Andy Vine - he picked me up hitch-hiking once in Nova Scotia. I had my guitar, which was small enough, and the front of the van big enough, that I could play him songs all the way to Montreal. I think he really enjoyed that for about the first fifteen minutes ...


13 Feb 09 - 12:41 PM (#2566073)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Beer

MEself,
Recognize the fellow on the right?
Adrien



http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/hpKeZjAcwe3cqgCbjUwPsA?authkey=ME6IS9TFaAk&feat=directlink


16 Feb 09 - 04:39 PM (#2568544)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: meself

well ... I wouldn't have if he hadn't been wearing a name-tag! A fine pianist. I found out sometime after meeting him that he was an accompanist for Jean Carignan. Glad to see he's still making the rounds!

(Thanks, Adrien).


16 Feb 09 - 04:47 PM (#2568555)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST,Komatik

Does anyone know of a singer called Doug Lewis- wrote a song called "Rebecca" or "Dancing with Rebecca" and a other called "Something Good"? I was given a tape of these years ago - great stuff - but was never able to trace anything else that he did.


16 Feb 09 - 05:06 PM (#2568574)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Jeri

I used to see him at open mics at the Press Room in NH in the 80's sometimes, I bought a tape from him, mainly because of a song about Vietnam. I know I still have the tape, but not where it is, and I don't know if Doug's still around here or not.


16 Feb 09 - 10:40 PM (#2568815)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: Mark Ross

OldDude,

I used to know a Mary Smith in Greenwich Village in the '70's, good singer. We used to play a bluegrass jam at an Italian restaurant on Bleecker St. called Arturo's(?).Mary was tending bar but would join me for some tunes like QUEEN OF THE SILVER DOLLAR and I REMEMBER LOVING YOU. She had a sweet voice. I've wondered whether she's still back there.

Mark Ross


08 Apr 11 - 02:17 PM (#3131447)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST

Andrew Dwyer. Now living in Bromyard Worcestershire. Singing in local clubs.


09 Apr 11 - 02:46 AM (#3131752)
Subject: RE: Almost forgotten 70s Folk Artists
From: GUEST,Guest - Lin

I know that Richard Meyer was involved with the Fast Folk scene in NY and he had several albums out, mostly in the 1980's or early
1990's. He was a very good songwriter.

Haven't heard anything about him for many years though and don't know if he is still involved with the folk music scene or not. I had a few of his albums that were initially on vinyl and then released on CD's. Someone several years ago thought that he might have gotten more into rock music but not sure if that is true.