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14 Jun 08 - 05:15 AM (#2365690) Subject: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy From: connieleemarie Today I heard a song titled 'Goodnight and Joy' from a 1986 CD - "Singing Land' by Dougie Maclean. The song is also included on a Putamayo compilation CD called 'Celtic Dreamland'. I'm wondering if anyone knows if 'Goodnight and Joy' is a traditional Scottish song. I've looked all over the internet for the song's history or lyrics unsuccessfully. On Dougie's website it is unclear if that particular song is an original or traditional, although it sounds like it may be a traditional song. Goodnight and Joy is the last music clip on this page: http://www.ruralimage.com/acatalog/SINGING_LAND.html |
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14 Jun 08 - 02:13 PM (#2365933) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy From: Jack Campin My first reply vanished My browser can't do anything with .m3u files, so I'll guess. If it's "Goodnight and [joy/God] be with you all", it's a Scottish song whose tune is known from the early 17th century (Skene MS) and for which words were first published by Walter Scott. There are many 19th century Scottish adaptations, and it was popularized in the Irish music world by some group of the 1970s as "The Parting Glass" (with words not very different from Scott's and the tune identical to the Scottish one as sung around 1800). |
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14 Jun 08 - 02:42 PM (#2365946) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy From: nutty I listened to the MP3 and it definitely is not The Parting Glass. In fact not a song I have heard before - very nice song though, from the little bit I did hear |
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17 Jun 08 - 04:19 PM (#2368129) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy From: connieleemarie I contacted Dougie's website here's what they said: We'll get the lyrics of Dougie's version of Goodnight & Joy up onto his website www.dougiemaclean.com ...over the next few days. It is a traditional song, with the original lyrics by Robert Burns I think... |
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17 Jun 08 - 05:21 PM (#2368196) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy From: Q (Frank Staplin) The poem "Goodnight and Joy" by *Robert Burns, may be found at In Memory 1 The year's wearin' tae the wane And day is fadin west awa Out raves the torrent and the rain And dark the cloud comes down the shaw Let the tempest taut and blaw Upon his loudeswinter horn Goodnight and joy be with you all We'll maybe meet again the morn. Two more verses, which I will post, if wanted. *I couldn't find this in my volume of Burns. Anyone know anything about it? Couldn't find it in google, either. |
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17 Jun 08 - 05:39 PM (#2368211) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy From: Jack Campin It seems to be by James Hogg. See this thread: thread.cfm?threadid=63989 The tune seems to be related to The Haughs of Cromdale, the first part anyway. |
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17 Jun 08 - 06:24 PM (#2368259) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy From: Q (Frank Staplin) Yes, the same song as the one credited to James Hogg, the same three verses. Only a word or two different. Thanks for that. The McCalman's album has it, and there is a bio by them at www.theballadeersscotland.com/MACS_D14_ettrick.htm |
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17 Jun 08 - 06:50 PM (#2368288) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy From: GUEST,Bernie I have a variant of it on the 1984 LP "The Misty Mountain",by Scottish singers/players Billy Jackson and Billy Ross... The liner notes just say "based on the "traditional" song of the same title,which was the work of a variety of authors.....written by Billy Ross to the tune of Lady Scott's "Durrisdeer" GUID NICHT AND JOY BE WI' YE A' The nicht is wearin'tae the wane and day fades fast awa' cauld blaws the wind on every stane and dark the cloud cams doon the shaw CHORUS But let the wild winds toot and howl another drappie 'caw we'll hae a toast tae ye ma friens Guid nicht and joy be wi' ye a' For we hae travelled far and near Ower mony's the frith and fell and bonnie lassies we hae seen tae kiss them,aye,and loe them well We've drunk oor fill in hoose and ha' blythe as beggars on the way aftimes we drank a drap ower much Aye,and lived tae fecht anither day |
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17 Jun 08 - 08:36 PM (#2368363) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy From: Q (Frank Staplin) Whoever wrote it, Hogg or Anon., it seems to have fathered several interesting variations. |
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20 Jun 08 - 05:55 AM (#2370541) Subject: Lyr Add: GOOD NIGHT AND JOY BE WI' YOU A' From: Jim Dixon Here's one old version that is quite similar to what Dougie Maclean sings in the excerpt. From Blackwood's Edinburgh Magazine, 1828, where it appears as part of a sort of play called "Noctes Ambrosianae", with no attribution: GOOD NIGHT AND JOY BE WI' YOU A'. THE night is wearing to the wane, And daylight glimmering east awa'; The little sternies dance amain, And the moon bobs aboon the shaw. But though the tempest tout an' blaw Upon his loudest midnight horn, Good night an' joy be wi' you a', We'll maybe meet again the morn. O, we hae wander'd far and wide, O'er Scotia's land of firth and fell; And mony a bonny flower we've pu'd, And twined them wi' the heather bell We've ranged the dingle and the dell, The hamlet and the Baron's ha', Now let us take a kind farewell,— Good night and joy be wi' you a'. Ye hae been kind as I was keen, And follow'd where I led the way, Till ilka poet's love we've seen Of this and mony a former day. If e'er I led your steps astray, Forgie your Minstrel aince for a'; A tear fa's wi' his parting lay,— Good night an' joy be wi' you a'. Omnes—Gude nicht and joy be wi' us a'. |
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20 Jun 08 - 06:12 AM (#2370552) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy From: Jim Dixon I'd better post this before I lose the information— A difficulty I had while searching for this song was the many possible spelling variations: Good/Gude night/nicht and/an [joy be] with/wi you/ye all/a Ringing all the changes, that makes a total of 64 possible ways of spelling the whole title, not counting variations in punctuation. (Search engines usually ignore punctuation anyway.) While using Google Book Search, and looking only at "full view" books, I found the following variants. Each is followed by its number of occurrences. "Good night and joy be wi you a" - 142 "Good night and joy be wi ye a" - 80 "Good night and joy be with you all" - 41 "Gude night and joy be wi you a" - 39 "Gude nicht and joy be wi you a" - 32 "Good night an joy be wi you a" - 19 "Gude nicht and joy be wi ye a" - 16 "Gude night and joy be wi ye a" - 16 "Good night and joy be wi you all" - 14 "Gude nicht an joy be wi ye a" - 8 "Good night and joy be with you a" - 5 "Gude night an joy be wi you a" - 3 "Good night and joy be with ye all" - 2 "Good nicht and joy be wi ye a" - 1 "Good night and joy be with ye a" - 1 "Gude night an joy be wi ye a" - 1 "Gude night an joy be wi you all" - 1 "Gude night and joy be with you all" - 1 Of course, not every occurrence of the phrase corresponds to a complete song text. |
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25 May 16 - 04:37 PM (#3792150) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy From: GUEST,Katty Anne McCloskey Does anyone have the chords for chords to the Billy Ross version of Guid Nicht And Joy Be With You All. I would also like to know where I could find that version in a recording Thanks Katty-Anne |
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03 May 20 - 11:26 AM (#4050132) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy From: GUEST,Sue Taylor Jim Dixon..... There's more background here on the Blackwood story: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2003/aug/09/featuresreviews.guardianreview3 But it's not totally clear to me that Hogg did write that poem. Anyone got more evidence? |
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03 May 20 - 12:14 PM (#4050139) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy From: GUEST,Starship https://books.google.ca/books?id=JTbuAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA208&lpg=PA208&dq=The+year%27s+wearin%27+tae+the+wane+And+day+is+fadin+west+aw Worth a look at p.208. lower half of the page. |
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03 May 20 - 12:54 PM (#4050146) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy From: GUEST,Starship There is an excellent study of the song at http://www.justanothertune.com/html/partingglass.html However, it seems clear that anyone looking for a single 'writer' of the song is on a hiding to nothing. |
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03 May 20 - 02:58 PM (#4050170) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy From: Jack Campin Most of Noctes Ambrosianae was written by John Wilson, but he was a good friend of James Hogg - part of the Edinburgh Tory intelligentsia. Wilson has a memorial in Princes Street, Edinburgh, which refutes Sibelius's dictum "nobody ever put up a statue of a critic". |
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03 May 20 - 03:46 PM (#4050180) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Goodnight and Joy From: GUEST,Starship Jack, I read somewhere that there were three statues at one point. Is just the one remaining? |