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Tired of the Same Old Music?

25 Jun 08 - 11:41 AM (#2374012)
Subject: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: GUEST,Volgadon

I think it would interesting to have a thread listing folk (I use the term loosely) albums people like, which aren't exactly what everybody else is listening to. Unusual, exotic, rare, that sort of thing.
I'll start.

From Israel:
http://www.shlomobar.com/indexA.html
Shlomo Bar & Habrera Hativit (AKA the Gathering).
The pioneers of ethnic music in Israel. Formed in the late 70s with Shlomo Bar, a Moroccan, on percussion, Samson Kehimkar, an Indian fiddler, Miguel Herschtein, a jazz and flamenco guitarist, and a bass player. The line-up changed later, with oud and qanun being added. There are a lot of Indian an classical oriental influences, as well as Jewish melodies from North Africa and Eastern Europe. Even accoustic they have a folk-rock feel which could put Fairport to shame.
The album I recommend to begin with is Faithful Waters (main neemanim), their 2CD anthology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWHkEfcRzoo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqy35eMC__Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P5b4PBYeSI
http://music.walla.co.il/?w=//1263812


25 Jun 08 - 12:25 PM (#2374039)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: Jack Campin

I just got a working cassette player again so I've been listening to a lot of stuff I'd forgotten about or not heard at all before the last one broke.

I've just been listening to a cassette "Hi Ere Dantzari" (1991) by the Basque band Oskorri. Your question prompted me to look them up on the web, and they've done a LOT more than I'd imagined, and there's some significant scholarship behind their performances.

Before that I was listing to Hungarian music, as I'm going on a music and dance camp for it this summer. "Be sok eso, be sok sar" (So much rain, so much mud), by the Csik Zenekar Kecskemet, was the last. There are many more people doing that sort of music now (from the Csango Hungarian speaking minority in Romania) - the cassette is from 1992 when the Csango areas were only just accessible again after the fall of Ceausescu.

Despite using similar instruments, they're very different. I think I'll stick with Hungarian stuff for the next few weeks to keep my ears attuned to pentatonic thinking, but I'll certainly come back to Oskorri.

I also listened to the early-90s English world music band "3 Mustaphas 3" on the cassette player yesterday. Something like the Incredible String Band doing the Balkans. They haven't worn all that well.


25 Jun 08 - 12:43 PM (#2374050)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: GUEST

Well...last week I got a stack of promo CD's from my connections as an ex-Tower Records employee. New Karan Casey record, some vintage Orchestra Baobab, but in relation to the thread, I got Sevara Nazarkhan (great Uzbek modern singer), Perunika Trio (a new, London based Bulgarian trio), and Bela Lakatos & The Gypsy Youth Project, all of which I would recommend!


25 Jun 08 - 12:44 PM (#2374052)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: irishenglish

Oops, last poster was me!


25 Jun 08 - 01:01 PM (#2374062)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: peregrina

Vicente Amigo: Vivencias Imaginadas


25 Jun 08 - 01:27 PM (#2374083)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: John on the Sunset Coast

My choice would be traditional calypso from the 1920s-1950s: Sir Lancelot, Lord Invader, Atilla the Hun etc. Thank you Harry Belafonte.   For me he is to Calypso what the Kingston Trio is to Folk Music.


25 Jun 08 - 01:59 PM (#2374111)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: Def Shepard

Living Is Hard: West African music in Britain, 1927 - 1929

About this recording


25 Jun 08 - 03:11 PM (#2374171)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: Crane Driver

It seems from this thread here that far too few people are interested in trying something new, at least if they're asked to pay for it.

Andrew


25 Jun 08 - 03:37 PM (#2374198)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: irishenglish

Crane Driver, I saw your post on that thread. You raised some good points but I don't think these two are related. I am in the US, so all of that is lost on me. I am constantly seeking new music across the board in many genres of music, the ones I mentioned above were only a few of some recent discoveries.


25 Jun 08 - 03:38 PM (#2374199)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: Def Shepard

Well I prefer having 'hard copy' ie the CD in my hands rather than downloading. With downloading, sometimes, the quality of the sound can be a bit dodgy.


26 Jun 08 - 10:13 AM (#2374769)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: GUEST,Volgadon

Another really interesting Israeli album is Meir Banai's "Shma Koli" (hear my voice), rock arrangements of traditional Middle-Eastern Jewish liturgy (piyutim)!!!


26 Jun 08 - 10:14 AM (#2374770)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: GUEST

Forgot the links.
MP3 samples:
http://www.israel-music.com/meir_banai/shma_koli/

El Nora Alila
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P0tnSgv-EE&feature=related

Lecha Eli
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbNj0DleE_I&feature=related


26 Jun 08 - 10:14 AM (#2374771)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: GUEST,Volgadon

Shalom Lecha Dodi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd6EzFyH1bU&feature=related

Bezochri Al Mishkavi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krSqYTKOrdA&feature=related


26 Jun 08 - 10:45 AM (#2374796)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: theleveller

Listen to Landermason

"...folk provides the theme but jazz determines the style"

The most amazing piece of whistle playing I've ever heard was at Ryedale Folk Weekend when Fiona Lander played Take Five.

www.landermason.com


26 Jun 08 - 12:13 PM (#2374880)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: Acorn4

Please, please, please, not the 6 CD set of pan pipe tunes!


26 Jun 08 - 08:14 PM (#2375218)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: GEST

What a coincidental thread... For the last few weeks I've been searching for and collecting songs of Newfoundland and Labrador which are available from CBC Radio3. This free Internet station helps users create a playlist which can be embedded into their own Web site. The result of my efforts is a 35-song playlist of fairly new recordings which I've been listening to for more than an hour as I browse the Net. I lost the play for a minute when I went to a page with a streaming video on it, but I backed out and clicked on the window with the page of the player and it picked up right where it left off. I find this fascinating since I selected all the songs, their lyrics are on my own site, and now I can listen to them as I sit here writing this post in the Mudcat. :-)

Here's the page if you're tired of the same old music:

http://wtv-zone.com/phyrst/audio/nfld/playlistcbc.htm

GEST Songs of Newfoundland and Labrador


27 Jun 08 - 04:34 AM (#2375376)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: GUEST,Volgadon

Oh, wow! Thanks for that, GEST!

Boris Grebenshikov is sort of the Russian Richard Thompson.
One of my favourite albums is Chubchik, a collection of (mostly) traditional Russian songs from the 20s and 30s.
http://aquarium.lipetsk.ru/MESTA/mp3/aquarium.ru-albums/chubchik241.html

Another fantastic album is the Russkiy Albom (Russian Albom), entirely original rock songs, but based on traditional Russian motives with Indian influences. There are even some bagpipes!!!!
http://aquarium.lipetsk.ru/MESTA/mp3/aquarium.ru-albums/russian_album.htm

Some other good albums are his covers of Vertinsky (the Russian Pierott) romances and the covers of Bulat Okudzhava, the bard.


27 Jun 08 - 01:02 PM (#2375666)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: GUEST,Neil D

Thanks so much for that, Gest. I have been a fan of Great Big Sea for about 12 to 14 years now (going to see them next month in Akron)and have recently become a big fan of The Fables. I've been looking for more music from "The Rock" and other than some crappy cell phone video's of Shannyganock on You-Tube and some corny Buddy Wasisiname stuff I haven't been able to find much. These are great. I especially like Siochana and Jim Fidler. Discovering new, and new to me, acts through Mudcat and You-tube has made me more excited about music over the last year than I've been for quite some time.
                                           Neil


09 Jul 08 - 01:46 AM (#2384385)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: Neil D

refresh


09 Jul 08 - 07:00 AM (#2384480)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: Jack Campin

The latest stuff I've discovered is Korean classical music, on a CD by Won Kwang Ho ("Komungo Sanjo", SRCD-1122, barcode 8 804775 008320). This is for a zither-like instrument (no picture but sounds rather like a koto) accompanied by a drum. It mostly goes at a fairly slow pace but is syncopated in extraordinary ways, producing fantastic energy and life. (It's also probably the least MP3-able music you could imagine - those simultaneous attacks from strings and drum couldn't possibly encode right).

Last year I came across a CD compiled by Michael Church, "Songs of Defiance: music of Chechnya and the North Caucasus", Topic TSCD934. Passionate and gripping stuff. The liner notes are excellent.


09 Jul 08 - 07:08 AM (#2384486)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: Paco Rabanne

Seek out the mighty Estrella Morente. (flamenco of course)


09 Jul 08 - 06:44 PM (#2385218)
Subject: RE: Tired of the Same Old Music?
From: Stringsinger

The problem is that when an artist gains an audience that's fairly large, everyone else
rushes to copy their style. That why music gets "old".